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Emusan:
That is why I keep asking JaNosense to provide the SECULAR HISTORIANS since he agreed that secular historians were truthful about the date.

One can easily spot their fraud even in their calculation of 3 1/2years to arrive at 2520 years.

How can 2520days suddenly changed to 2520years?

No where God ever said 1day will automatically become 1year. They just took Bible verse out of context to get their dubious calculation.

The quote on Watchtower 2011 says it all. Only untruthful person will read the above quote from Watchtower 2011 and still support them.

For Watchtower to admit that when you follow the same secular sources they used, you will arrive at 587 Bce proves that they knew exactly what they were doing. They deliberately formed this Lie just so that they can stretch dates to fit 607 and 1914.

Emusan:
The funny thing is, these are secular historians of which even Watchtower will claim they are bias, these people just did their jobs and established fact.

Even Judaism doesn't bother themselves with the date of Jerusalem destruction neither Christianity but only Watchtower is trying to spin the historical fact and make use of this delusion and their members swallowed it.

That's why you won't see them providing a single link or video that supported their claim rather than telling you to google it.

And no matter how you search Google you won't come across a single reputable source supporting 607BC as the year Jerusalem was destroyed apart from Watchtower website and few JWs who also repeating the lies on their website.

And they ought to be ashamed of themselves that they can't provide one single evidence to back up 607. Isn't that enough proof that 607 is a Lie from the pit of hell? No wonder they don't like University education. If people are that smart and educated, they will see their Fraud. No wonder they disfellowshipped a JW just because he saw their error and wanted to correct them. They deliberately made this Lie up to deceive JWS with no Brain cells.

You use the same Bible Scholars and their information to do calculation to suit yourself at a certain point then you decided to do your own calculation from that point to arrive at 607 and then say the source you used is unreliable. All because you are desperate to make 607 and 1914 correct by all means necessary. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Can you see the mago mago? The American wonder they performed here. Chai! It is good to be educated. No wonder they don't want JWs to go to University.

See the Fraud Watchtower did in broad daylight to arrive at 607 Bce. They desperately need this date to be correct. So, they did some mago mago in the calculation of the dates. Now see where it gets interesting. The Same Watchtower depended on the secular sources and tablets to arrive at the date when Babylon fell but at the same time made the claims that these secular sources are not reliable. It is just like a person using a method to create something but at the same time the person is claiming that this method is not reliable. So, the question is, if these secular sources and tablets are not reliable, why are you using them in the first place to arrive at a date? After arriving at a date, you now formed your own calculation that involves adding more years to the reign of Kings at that time. You see the wayo they did just so that the dating can stretch to fit 607 Bce?

Janosky:

Did secular history prove that king Cyrus of Persia released the Jewish captives in Babylon (captive for 70 years) to return to Jerusalem in 537 BCE & rebuild the temple to fulfil 2 chronicles 36:2023 & Ezra 1:1-4 ?

The years of BCE was counted backwards. When you add 70 years Jewish captivity to year 537 BCE , what do you get?

MUMU WAILER DECEIVING HIMSELF

Oga, carry your IBERIBEISM & STUPIDITY out of this forum.

Show us ancient writings that prove this counting of yours. Show us evidence Janosky! Ancient writings called Cuneiform tablets documented events during that time and proved that the destruction happened in 586/587 Bce and these tablets were found by Archeologists. Your former Governing body member Ray Franz as a writer and researcher saw the tablets for himself and that's how he knew that 607 bce was not correct telling you your counting is wrong! He searched high and low for proof for 607. He never saw one proof! All the history books confirmed 586/587. That was how he saw the fraud in Watchtower. Oya show us your own. Also, show us Archeologists that confirm 607. This is their job. So they must know. These are the same people Watchtower relies on for information. These are the same people that confirm the existence of Bible characters. Show us! Why is It that when it comes to confirming Bible characters and events, you JWs suddenly remember that archeologists and Bible Scholars exist and then use their information but when it comes to Jerusalem destruction, you people suddenly forget them and form your own wayo doctrine from your anus? That's because you are Frauds! Are you not aware that sticking to 1914 and 607 is just a ploy for Watchtower to make claims of having authority over you?

Emusan:
They are the one who will make dubious claims they will be the same people telling you to look for the evidence that support their claims. Very pathetic set of people!

Since Oga intelligent officer was exposed of those videos, you notice he couldn't talk again about the fraud of 607BC, he was so happy seeing @mightysparrow changing the subject matter with him

Don't mind the fool. Mad MaxinDhouse don cast! We caught him in the act! Anyone reading his comments will be disgusted. No atom of shame in his body. If not that I decided to watch the first video, we wouldn't have known the wayo he was trying to do. Mad MaxinDhouse went to look for an Apostate video to use as evidence when the same video is against 607. No shame. I provided a video from an archeologist backing our argument. Oya Provide your own na wahala. He didn't see anyone to back up their wayo doctrine. He went to bring An Ex JWs video. What a shame! No wonder his fellow JWs call him Apostate. 😂😂😂😂

MaxInDHouse:
Since i've noticed how Emusan always avoid the things that points to JWs as having truth i have decided not to respond to his post.
We are not sent to entertain arguments rather we were sent to search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel!

Which lost sheep have you been looking for? Which one? Let someone go through all your posts in this forum. Does your posts look like someone looking for lost sheep? Rather you are the lost sheep! You are Lost. You're confused. You don't know where you are to place yourself. All you do is jump in one thread after another trying to shove your demonic doctrines down people's throats to the point that they sometimes insult you. I see your posts o. Even your own fellow JWs call you Apostate. They know your movement here in this forum is disgraceful!

Which Truth have you shown in this thread? Have you provided your evidence to prove 607 Bce is correct? Are there ancient writings to prove 607 is correct? Archeologists found ancient writings to prove 586/587 is correct. Where is your own? We have been telling you JWs here to provide your own. Instead you have been jumping up and down like an Idiot.

MaxInDHouse:
I have decided to stop engaging oteneaaron (Courz)

How many times have you said this and still went back to do the same thing? How many times have you said you will avoid Apostates and still forced yourself in their midst? How many times have you said you will avoid certain threads and yet you still go there by yourself? No right thinking person takes you seriously because you are a Mad Man. See your fellow Mad JW Elder murdered a woman and now he has been jailed. What do you have to say about that? Was It Jehovah that told him to pick up a hammer to kill this woman? Your fellow Mad man after the murder still went to give talk in his Kingdom hall.

Janosky:
MUMU WAILER DECEIVING HIMSELF
Is 2 chronicles 36:20:23 and Ezra 2:1-4 in your own Bible?
Which year did King Cyrus give a decree for the Jews to return from captivity and rebuild Jerusalem?

Counting back from that year (confirmed by history) & 70 years in your own Bible) gives you what year?

Courz Oteneaaron OZUO pro max.

Mumu Janosky with your maggot infested brain, where is your evidence to prove 607 Bce? Where are the Scholars that back up 607 Bce? Where are the archeologists to confirm 607 Bce? Where are the Cuneiform tablets found by Archeologists that prove that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607bce? You can't be jumping up and down this thread like a little boy ranting like an Idiot! Where are your evidence? Surely there must be proof to confirm 607 right? Oya show us! We have shown our own. Any intelligent person will take us seriously because we have shown all proof in this thread. But an uneducated fool will take you JWs seriously. Watchtower knows 607 is a scam. That's why they are forcing you JWs to accept it or else you are called Apostates. They know the fraud they made with 607 and 1914. Once these doctrines get New Light, it means they were never selected in 1919. The original inventors of 1914 that you JWs copied from have discarded the doctrine because they know it is False! When will you people discard it?

MightySparrow:
Come and think about it. They built only ten rooms for all the patriarchs of the Old Testament. They would give admittance to whoever they considered meet their delusional standards and keep others out .

such delusion. Where was the Land of Canaan God promised Abraham, now America?
This people are not well.

Hahahahahahahaha. That's why I said the Beth Sarim Mansion was specifically for Rutherford, not for any Men of Old from the Bible. Rutherford lied and used Fake prophecy to cover because he didn't want JWs to see how materialistic he was to have thought of building a Mansion when the whole world was broke! If they saw that, they would have started to doubt him and leave the Cult. At that same time this Man even bought two very flashy Cardillac Cars. What a Scam!

MightySparrow:
I once learned they believed when they reached 144,000 the end would come. Now, they are about 9million.

They once built a house in USA for resurrected patriarchs, when waited in vain, they sold the house. They have been living in generational delusion since inception.

Beth Sarim (Hebrew בית שרים "House of the Princes" is a ten-bedroom mansion in San Diego, California, constructed in 1929 in anticipation of various resurrected Old Testament biblical patriarchs or prophets such as Abraham, Moses, David, Isaiah and Samuel. It was maintained by the Watch Tower Society, the parent organization used by Jehovah's Witnesses, and was also used as a winter home and executive office for Watch Tower president Joseph Franklin Rutherford. The house was sold to a private owner in 1948.

Source: Wikipedia


How can MaximumSide be inviting me, a whole me, to delusion?
I have enough sense to reject the proposal with thanksgiving.


His Delusional Majesty
Bearded MaximumSide of delusional kingdom of Jehovah's Witnesses.

During Rutherford's time, they used to teach that the door for more 144,000 members has closed. This was the reason why they came up with the Great Crowd teaching. To show how fraudulent the doctrine was, more and more JWs were becoming part of the 144,000 which will actually by now surpass that number. I don't think JWs truly sit down and think about their doctrines very well. When you lie, you don't think properly.

When they waited for Abraham and Co to appear and they didn't come, Rutherford quickly parked into the Beth Sarim Mansion. To be honest, that false prophecy was a hoax and a way for Rutherford to have a Mansion to himself. It was all a lie.

Watchtower is a laughing stock to be honest!

Ex Jehovah's witness who used to be an Elder and Coordinator for the Body of Elders in his Congregation, gives his own experience when there was a Child Sexual abuse case in his congregation. He contacted the legal department as advised in their Elders Manual and was surprised at their attitude. This was what led him to step down, wake up and leave JW. It's a short video.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC639Bnrgg4?si=OJFrNpCdSXHLHuPZ

MightySparrow:
This people have stubborn believe in their delusion. They can dodge questions!
I have been asking MaximumSide how David Splain knew as he claimed he is one of the 144000 and his number and tribe.
He kept quiet on it.

I want know if MaximumSide is also one of the 144000 as it is claimed that every member of Governing Body is one.
You see delusion.
I laughed when I watched the man making such statement.



I laughed in JWs paradise's language.

With their stubborness, they have shown that they are the people the Bible talked about that love their ears to be tickled with Lies and imaginations. If they can be shown the truth and yet they choose not to listen, God has already abandoned them to their Delusions. The ones who want to wake up are doing so and exposing Watchtower.

OLAADEGBU asked Mad MaxinDhouse if he believesd he was one of the 144,000, he said Yes. I was shocked. JWs don't ever say that. OLAADEGBU, if you're seeing this, please back it up with a screenshot. I know I saw this conversation some time back.

Do you know that since inception of JW, not one single so called Anointed have successfully explained how they knew they were among the 144,000? That's how you know the whole JW Anointed doctrine is another fraud. . If not that one Anointed JW opened up to explain the fraud, someone would have taken their words seriously.

MaxInDHouse:
OK so you believe the truth shey?

He believes Truth. You believe Lies. That's the difference between you and him. You love lies like your Father Satan.

This is what will happen to JW once New Light comes to remove 1914. Governing body have admitted they don't know everything and can make mistakes in doctrine. The original creators of 1914 that JWs copied from have discarded the doctrine because they have seen that it is a Lie from the pit of Hell. Let's see if their Governing body will have sense like them. Unfortunately, once they bring New Light, their authority over JWS is gone. All their lies they have invented from 1914 will be exposed for all to see. The mistake they made was to form doctrines from 1914. They should never have done that. But I guess the fallen angels they depend on for doctrines just wanted to disgrace them. That will be the ultimate punishment from God himself.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q34cTG5e7uw?si=wiGkmkOv3szrkX45

Emusan:
This is funny and shows the shallowness of the scripture.

Well, let's go with your line of Israelites wondering in the wildness for forty years instead of forty days and God was still with them.

But remember the reason forty days became forty years was the punishment for their disobedience.

Now, has Jehovah ever punished Watchtower for any of their disobedience/lie/false doctrine/wrong teaching before?

At the Bolded, God is punishing them o. But differently from the Israelites. The punishment started from Their founder Russell. When Russell gave a false prophecy, what happened? He lost members. They even exposed him in newspapers. That one no be punishment? What of Rutherford? He gave his own long string of false prophecies and banned Secondary school education. what then happened? He lost many members too. The next president nko? He did his own with 1975. What happened? JWS left too. It was a huge embarrassment at that time. What is happening now? Their foolish Governing body are doing their own. Internet was invented and Boom! JWs are leaving still. They are selling Kingdom halls, Bethel branches and assembly halls. Child Sexual abuse has opened their yansh well well. Their Occultic activities are being exposed. They are losing many Court cases based on Disfelloshipping and Child Sexual abuse. Some countries have branded them as a Cult. They are banned in some countries. Social media is filled with their dirty laundry. All News Outlets are exposing them. YouTube keeps coming up with new JWs exposing them. Bethelites leaving are exposing them. The Cult is dying. They are recieving this punishment now but a bigger punishment is coming for Watchtower for misrepresentation of God and Jesus, for using God and Jesus to Lie, for masquerading themselves as Christians when they are just a Book publishing business connected to Satan's world behind the scenes and for misleading JWs to commit Idolatry.

Emusan:
As it can be deduced from JaNosense post above:

They know what history and historians say about 607BC.

They know about archeological evidence about the date 587BC.

They know no scholars agree with the date of 607BC

But they must BELIEVE whatever Watchtower says to deceive them.

Which is exactly what the Bible says. They love their ears to be tickled with Lies and fantasies. Watchtower knows. Watchtower admitted in their publication that 586/587 Bce is actually the date archeologists, historians and Bible Scholars have shown to be the true date but they picked 607 Bce. Even after there was Archeological evidence, an ancient Cuneiform tablet that documents events that happened in Jerusalem before it's destruction confirming 586/587 Bce, still Watchtower chose to imagine another false date to lie to JWS. We already know why they picked 607. It leads to 1914, another false date that was never meant to exist if only they read their Bible well. They need a basis for their authority over Jehovah's Witnesses. If 1914 is gone, then Watchtower is gone. These people just love formulating errors upon errors to fit the lies they have sold to JWs. That's why their doctrines change over and over again because they keep churning out Lies!

MightySparrow:
Nobody can deny the fact that you are true believers. The problem is that you don't believe the truth.

Exactly. That's the danger they are in. They are True believers in Delusions. Fantasies. Non Biblical imaginations. Not even one of them can provide evidence for 607 Bce even though they have been shown that is a Lie from the pit of hell.

Aemmyjah:
Fornicator Aemmyjah

Fornicator Aemmyjah, oya explain this Murder your fellow JW Elder committed. He has been sentenced. He used a Hammer to kill a JW woman simply because he was told he wasn't doing his job well and as fast as he should. After killing her, he went to his Kingdom hall to give talk. Watchtower lied to you people that you don't pick up weapons to kill. You people have already been killing each other with the No blood doctrine. Look at this one using a weapon this time. What do you say about this grievous act?

MaxInDHouse:
Only angels can do something without blunder as they are PERFECT creatures but as for humans when God declares Israelites "HOLY" it wasn't because there was no blunders in their midst rather it's because they are unitedly doing God's will. That's is why God gave them rules to govern them as His own people and no outsider comes to tell them how to implement the orders given to them by their God!

Yes. Your fellow Elder below has been declared Holy for just being a JW. That's why he went to kill his fellow JW with a Hammer. After doing that, he went to his Kingdom Hall to give talk. You see the kind of people you have in this your Cult? Mad people like yourself. Explain the Holiness in this. I thought you said you JWs don't pick up weapons to kill. Oya, explain this one Mad MaxinDhouse. This is something that just happened not too long ago.

johnw47:
yes satan would be very happy with them, his followers in deed

There was a YouTube video I watched from an Ex Satanist who is now a Christian. He was once invited to attend a Kingdom hall when he was a high ranking Warlock. Remember, people who dabble can see the spirit realm and can feel the presence of Demons or an Entity in a place. This Man said the moment he entered the Kingdom hall, he felt a very strong Darkness, Darkness that is stronger than his own. Not Light. Not even the effect of Holy Spirit but Darkness with Power stronger than his. Imagine a Warlock feeling something bigger and more dangerous than him. He said he never went back there again. If there was the Holy Spirit there, he would have felt differently since he went there to seek deliverance and would choose to come back to be saved and delivered But he obviously saw something very dangerous. JWs don't even do deliverance. This testimony never left my mind because I have watched testimonies from people who mentioned signs that a religion is deep in the Occult or into Witchcraft. The signs they mentioned matches exactly what happens in JW Congregations.

johnw47:
no they not psychopaths, mad max can defeat six fully armed combatants single handed

and fraud janosky calls the Holy Spirit; "the ole demon ghost"
he calls the Christians Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit of the Bible; "the three dog heads"
they sane man, and holy

That's why they are rightly called Satanists with a false Christian covering. They are a tool for Satan to attack every other Christian denomination. This is exactly how they started. By attacking Christians Why is it that they share many similarities with Satan? This guy below helps to break it down to prove they are a harbor for Demons to operate on.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76-xrQ5Tzyc?si=5UYRKTsmKKHr8Zih

Ex Jehovah's Witnesses share experiences about Child Sexual Abuse. Link below:

https://kentwired.com/111967/latest-updates/ex-jehovahs-witnesses-speak-out-about-alleged-sexual-abuse-within-denomination/?fbclid=IwAR2OAldMzER0WHCNwBrTLqbE0BnHG9_3RyL61Pxe2v6dB6CrA2CpcwJ8kCo_aem_AYCMUo3FzLww3UKLRIRH8PW9wRN8Cc6L41XP7UJ0mlD4lGuD55FOYNpZfBZIWZMj57I

johnw47:
their excuse:
we not perfect, but we holy

Which makes no sense. Not being perfect and Being Holy cannot be in the same sentence. Especially for a Cult that protects Pedophiles, punishes victims , destroys families, practices Human sacrifice, and habors Murderers. All of these sounds like what Satan would be happy to do.

Some thoughts about the JW Elder that murdered his fellow JW. Isn't It interesting that what Satan likes to promote is exactly what Jehovah's Witnesses teach and practice? What kind of person commits a Murder and then afterwards goes to the Kingdom hall to give a lecture?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76-xrQ5Tzyc?si=5UYRKTsmKKHr8Zih

Mumu Janosky and Mad MaxinDhouse, what do you have to say about your fellow JW Elder murdering a JW Woman in the U.K? After killing her, he went to Kingdom Hall to give a talk. What kind of persons do you harbor in that Cult? Psychopaths?

I know that you guys will run away and pretend you didn't see this News about you JWs from BBC. You will never find such News in JW org.

MaxInDHouse:
JWs today are also HOLY

Yes JWS are Holy. That's why your Fellow JW Elder murdered a JW woman he was working for with a Hammer. After killing the woman he then went to Kingdom hall to give Talk. Yes, he must be Holy to have done that. Ode!

Some thoughts about the JW Elder that murdered his fellow JW. Isn't It interesting that what Satan likes to promote is exactly what Jehovah's Witnesses teach and practice? What kind of person commits a Murder and then afterwards goes to the Kingdom hall to give a lecture?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76-xrQ5Tzyc?si=5UYRKTsmKKHr8Zih

Janosky:
MUMU WAILER

The Bible clearly states that there was an exile of 70 years. There is strong evidence​—and most scholars agree—​that the Jewish exiles were back in their homeland by 537 B.C.E. Counting back from that year would place Jerusalem’s destruction in 607 B.C.E.
Though the classical historians and the canon of Ptolemy disagree with this date, valid questions can be raised about the accuracy of their writings. Really, those two lines of evidence hardly provide enough proof to overturn the Bible’s chronology.

Mumu Janosky aka Gibberish Master, show us archeological evidence that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 Bce. Show it from the Bible. I have provided a video from an Archeologist backing up 586/587 Bce. The same archeologists Watchtower depends on for information. Encyclopedia that you JWs depend on backs up 586/587 Bce, Google backs it up. Wikipedia backs it up. History books have done the same. Bible Scholars that you JWs depend on confirmed it. Archeologists have done the same by finding Cuneiform tablets that document activities way back to Jerusalem. You show us your own evidence to back up 607 bce. Don't be an Idiot. Typing Gibberish will not save you. You can see the fraud Watchtower taught you. You can't prove anything because it is a Lie! Anything that you Jehovah's Witnesses cannot successfully prove shows you are all Liars, children of Satan who is the father of Lies.

It is wrong to erect flag of a country but it is not wrong to erect a flag of a Cult. Are you not still committing Idolatry? Watchtower says No. As long as your allegiance is to the Cult therefore flags for the Cult is allowed. The JWS that saw these flags during that convention, how did they justify this in their minds? You will see JWs producing items with the JW org logo boldly on it yet they kick against JWs wearing branded shirts. Make this make sense.

Jehovah's Witnesses will argue that they are not saluting that flag. They will say that they never pledged to the flag but they forget that the vows they made when they got baptised was actually a pledge to the Organisation. The organisation is an Idol. This is why it is wrong to speak against the organisation and it is wrong to leave the organisation. You were baptised in the name of the organisation. Your loyalty is to the organisation. And during baptism, you were told so when given baptismal questions to answer. You are told repeatedly to remain loyal to the organisation. This is Allegiance. Watchtower teaches JW how to commit Idolatry of the organisation.

Hypocrisy is when you teach your members that erecting Flags are wrong and saluting them by declaring allegiance is also wrong but during a 2015 JW Regional Convention in Switzerland, you erected flags to display JW org website. Is this not the same as Idolatry?