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Quote from: lonamy on Today at 07:30:14 AM
you could contribute to the success of your leader by helping in certain areas where they are missing it.


i will gladly do that. but convince me first thst he is wrong.

Kabbalah is very explicit about the negative spiritual side-effects of self-service. The idea is as follows: Your seed is the material by which you procreate; it is the genetic material within you that allows you the opportunity to partner with G-d.When we let human seed go to waste, we squander G-d’s sacred and divine potential”

2 Timothy 3:4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--
New Living Translation (©2007)
They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God.

English Standard Version (©2001)
treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God


Mast.urb.at.ion

Jewish law clearly prohibits male mas.turb.ation. This law is derived from the story of Onan (Gen. 38:8-10), who practiced coitus interruptus as a means of birth control to avoid fathering a child for his deceased brother. G-d killed Onan for this sin. Although Onan's act was not truly mas.turb.ation, Jewish law takes a very broad view of the acts prohibited by this passage, and forbids any act of ha-sh'cha'tat zerah (destruction of the seed), that is, ejaculation outside of the vagina. In fact, the prohibition is so strict that one passage in the Talmud states, "in the case of a man, the hand that reaches below the navel should be chopped off." (Niddah 13a)

The issue is somewhat less clear for women. Obviously, spilling the seed is not going to happen in female masturbation, and there is no explicit Torah prohibition against female mas.turb.ation. Nevertheless, Judaism generally frowns upon female mas.turb.ation as "impure thoughts."

Suggestions for Further Reading

Rachel Biale's Women and Jewish Law (Paperback) (Kindle) contains many sections dealing with s,e,x,u,al issues, focusing on the woman's perspective. It addresses the laws of marital relations, sexuality outside of marriage, procreation and contraception, abortion and rape.

Rabbi Shmuley Boteach (known for his Shalom in the Home reality TV series) has a book coincidentally named Kosher S,e,x (Paperback) (Kindle) (and let me just say in my own defense: I was using that page title years before his book came out!). The book talks about sex in the context of a committed, loving relationship, trying to find a proper balance between deep friendship and passionate lovemaking, within the context of Jewish Law.


if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

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Re: Is There Anybody Or Pastor Like Tb Joshua?
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It takes the grace of God to know that he is a real man of God.

When we spend our time bashing men of God, i doubt if God can

increase the anointing in us to become like these great men of God.

Whether we like it or not, his distractors are always running out of time.

we really need men of God like him in nigeria.

are you mad if nigeria has more people him the nation will be lost

there is some confused facts here

T.B Joshua which I have renamed tuberculosis Joshua

The Old Testament says put everything through the fire to get purified

He has been colour very bad, he is a spiritual Typhoid Mary

you know the woman that carried the deadly disease she was the carrier of the pathogen but had no symptoms?

T.B Joshua which I have renamed tuberculosis Joshua

He carries the devil in him but is left alone because he is one of his children the father of lies lol

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Quote from: maddock on Today at 03:18:25 PM
For arguument sake what's the comparison of Al and Nino brown to TBJ?

All three of them are trying to buy their way out of a destiny with the lords sword. thats the comparison.

well said buz light year lol

your light years a head of these people your buzzing past them

i never thought of new jack city

there trying to (s,e,x) up the there false Gospel

you know that song in the movie "i wanna (s,e,x) you up" 

Guidelines for discerning a Bad Pastor


God wants us (His people) to understand what the ministry of oversight is all about, and to make sure that those who are in a position of oversight fulfill their God given duties FAITHFULLY. We can discern from God's word what would amount to a serious warning if the spiritual leader steps out of line.

KJV Ezekiel 34:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks? 3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock. 4 The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them. 5 And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered. 6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them. 7 Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD; 8 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock; 9 Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD; 10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them. 11 For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out. 12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

This passage of Scripture was written for the Old Testament leaders of God's people. It is written specifically against "the shepherds of Israel". "Shepherd" is the same word as "pastor". This would define what the concept of shepherd or pastor is, as God sees it. Failure to fulfill this task brings railing condemnation against that pastor. From this we too can learn much about New Testament church oversight (i.e. pastors).

Beware when your pastor ,

1. Is overly concerned about remuneration and his own life style instead of his preaching. Ezekiel 34:2

The first and great overriding condemnation by God is that the pastors feed themselves instead of feeding their charge, the flock of God. We must admit that God's principles are that the local church is to give the pastor a livable wage or salary, and they are to even give him "double honor" if he ministers well, and the pastor is to live of the gospel. But when the balance becomes to great towards "feathering his own nest" instead of tending to his charge, then the pastor is not what he is supposed to be.

The charge of God to the pastor is the same as the owner of sheep in Palestine to a shepherd of sheep, "whatever is wrong, fix it." What this means is that the pastor should confront all problems and resolve them however it is necessary to do so. A pastor who by-passes and ignores problems in the local church is not doing his job. We must give time to many matters, and we must labor over them in prayer, but some matters need to be confronted and dealt with instead of being prayed over. For example God rebuked Joshua in Joshua 7 because he was praying instead of rooting out sin in the camp. In 1 Corinthians 5, Paul rebukes the church for not confronting sin in their midst. Paul's comparison is that this is like kneading a lump of dough with leaven in it, soon it will saturate the entire lump if not stopped quickly and decisively.

The preacher should preach, and he should do that well. Preachers that do not spend a lot of time preparing, and that includes study, prayer, and meditation, just are slighting their duties. Even the most scholarly preachers still spend many hours on a sermon if it is to be a good, effective sermon. Moreover, when a preacher spends a large portion of his time in other things (such as administration of a Christian school, counseling, writing, fellowship, or entertainment concerns) be careful. A person's priorities are reflected by his attention to that things, i.e. what he spends the most time, energy, and resources on is his highest priority.

Beware when your pastor ,

2. Hurts more people than he helps. Ezekiel 34:2

The sense of "the diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken" is that he should be building up the flock so that they are not crippled by spiritual disease or sickness. The broken perhaps refers to the difficult crises of life that cause a person to become disabled or unfruitful and unproductive.

Focus on our task as Christians. We must ask ourselves, "what should the sheep be normally doing that these diseases, sicknesses, and crises (brokenness) would hinder?" The answer is very simple, sheep are supposed to roam around after the pastor eating and feeding all they can get, and they are to reproduce more sheep, and give fruit (wool and milk). Christians then are supposed to go to church and feed on the Word of God that the pastor feeds them with. This Word of God explained (feeding grounds) is supposed to promote the Christian to bear spiritual fruit and to reproduce (evangelism). This evangelism is the mission of the church (Matthew 28:19-20). It is a single mission that must all come under the focus of the local church. The local church must evangelize the lost, baptize them (membership - integration) into the local church, and teach them all God has commanded us (discipleship so that they are just like the rest of the church). This is the work of God, and the sheep are supposed to be doing it, and the pastor is supposed to promoting it, making it happen.

Moreover the Christian is to bear spiritual fruit. Let us mention what the Christians should be moved to produce from their "church experience".

Gal 5:22-23
Love - The practice and attitude of placing somebody else before their own self. Seeking the benefit of another before your self.

Joy - Happiness (well being) that is not necessarily linked to physical well being. Comfort or thoughts that overwhelms the person even if that person finds himself in conflict, affliction, distress, anguish, agony, or pain.

Peace - The absence of conflict in the soul, even though outwardly the person may be in great conflicts.

Longsuffering - Suffering long, waiting and having patience even though the events and pressures of life would force the person to immediate response, vengeance, attack, rebuke, conflict, or improper speech.

Gentleness - Treating others softly instead of harshly and brutishly. Gentleness means not seeking to hurt others even when it is fully possible.

Faith - Faith is belief. But much more than some doctrinal point somebody ascribes themselves to, faith is spiritual force to wait or go forward when the evidence before ones eyes is to the contrary.

Meekness - This is to approach others as though you believe them to be better and superior to yourself. While it may not be so, still the meek person will treat others with this respect and dignity even though he himself may be a king.

Temperance - Self-control. A control over one's self so that one does not indulge in sins and excesses of life. This is a strong control over oneself, or perhaps better put, it is a complete rendering of one's self to the control of God to decide and guide their life, actions and speech so that what a person does is God's will.

KJV Ephesians 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth

The Christian is supposed to have his life full of all goodness and righteousness. Good is free from the element of sin. Righteousness is the opposite of sin. It is what we are supposed to be doing instead of sin. Truth is God's banner (identifying flag) over us. We are supposed to be champions of the truth. Beware when people claim to be Christians and tell lies to protect or promote their version of Christianity. No obedient Christian will use Satan's methods to do God's work. It just does not work.

Beware when your pastor ,
3. Drives away people instead of gathering them. Ezekiel 34:4

KJV Ezekiel 34:4 brought that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost

The biblical pastor will be active in evangelism. Any church or pastor that slights evangelism is making light of the verse heart of God. "For God so loved the world He sent , " Evangelism is hard and discouraging, but it is the essence of God's work. We cannot get around it. We cannot use the world's methods, especially not Madison Avenue's methods to do God's work. We must use God's methods.

Some pastors drive away and scatter the sheep instead of gathering them. This is seen by the pastor doing and saying things that drives people away from the Lord for unbiblical reasons. God's purpose is to change people so that they obey the will of God. When a pastor preaches the will of God, then at times he will drive disobedient people away from the Lord because they will not obey God's word. This is normal and not what we are talking about here. (Christ said he came to bring a sword into this world). What is a bad sign is when the pastor delights or accepts driving people away when there is no need to do so. For example, the pastor is sarcastic or bitter or sharp with his words when he could have said the same thing in a different way and not offend. The offense must always be between the individual and God, not the pastor and the individual. The pastor shows them God's word and they may get offended or repent and follow God's will.

Another aspect of a good pastor is that he seeks the lost. This goes beyond evangelism. It goes to the pastor's relationship with his own sheep. When the pastor offends somebody, or somebody just stops coming or distances himself from the church, the good pastor will go out and seek that person seeking to "fix what is wrong" and restore that person into the fellowship as an active and fruitful member.

Beware when your pastor's ,
4. Leadership style is marked with cruelty and force. Ezekiel 34:4

KJV Ezekiel 34:4 with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them

"Force" here means excessive force, vehemence, might, strength. "Cruelty" means to break apart, to break down, to fracture, to use severity or cruelty, rigor. The idea is that the bad pastor is somebody who gets his will done no matter what. He is very forceful, and reserves all right for himself. Seldom is he ever wrong (in his own eyes), and even when he is wrong, he will ignore it and wants all others to ignore his errors, adhering absolute loyalty to his "always right" way.

Beware when your pastor ,
5. Decides not to give pastoral counseling and get involved in correcting people's lives. Ezekiel 34:5

One of the most important points to understand about pastors is that they government the sheep. That "government" simply is that they make executive decisions for the welfare of the sheep. The word for shepherd (ra'ah) means and is translated on occasion, "to govern". They are personally responsible to God for their charge (Hebrews 13:17). This governing takes a public form in guiding the decisions of the local church, and a private form in personal one on one counseling.

Public guiding of the church is done by preaching and teaching, setting the norms, understandings, and standards of that local church. Also he has the burden of biblically expositing the direction, activities, and work of the local church to set its course. He does not make these decisions privately, and the church simply obeys him, but rather he exposits biblically why and how we are to do what we do, and the church follows his leadership. His "validity" is not found in his authority (position) but rather in his right to "have the ear of the church". He feeds them daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, with information from God that illuminates the church, and is the pastor's principal means of governing.

When a pastor comes to a person position in his own life in which he is not willing or able to "risk" giving counsel and getting involved in correcting the wrong in people's lives and in the church in general, he must be removed, either voluntarily or by the people of that church for failure to fulfill his primary work burden.

Pastors today think that they can split and divide their work such that they personally do not have to do the "dirty job" of dealing with people's problems. This is the primary burden for the pastor. He gets his validity in everything else because he has helped the personal problems of his people and church.

Bottom Line: Whatever is wrong, the pastor has to fix it however it has to be done.

Did you know al capon feed the poor during the great depression yet he murdered people this does not make a good person this was to gain the hand of the of public this is what you call a charm offensive?

a smoke screen christ embassy does the same thing and they make out it (mr chris al coponyie) that does the good works but it is the members not him?

not that they have many good works

this man is of the devil

thank you would you help with the people your posts are good

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-886134.0.html

there telling me i must follow the pastor i say jesus only and the word of God

this is fantastic post

the word was for all to know to change the world

said at the church no tithes and offering OBJ sponsors it all,

what is your point of contention because going with what you said it is good thing he is doing here one of my goals is a tithe less church if I was rich this is how I would run the church members would never be asked for money they just sit down to hear the word of the lord without being raped for money so what is the point?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-887094.0.html

check this link

Giving and sharing not sowing
1 Corinthians 9 (King James Version)
1 Corinthians 9
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1 Corinthians 9
1 Corinthians 9:1Am I am not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?
1 Corinthians 9:2If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord.
1 Corinthians 9:3 Mine answer to them that do examine me is this,
1 Corinthians 9:4 Have we not power to eat and to drink?
1 Corinthians 9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?
1 Corinthians 9:6Or I only and Barnabas, have not we power to forbear working?
1 Corinthians 9:7 Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?
1 Corinthians 9:8 Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also?
1 Corinthians 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
1 Corinthians 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.
1 Corinthians 9:11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
1 Corinthians 9:12If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
1 Corinthians 9:13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
1 Corinthians 9:14Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
1 Corinthians 9:15 But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void.
1 Corinthians 9:16For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!
1 Corinthians 9:17For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
1 Corinthians 9:18What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
1 Corinthians 9:19For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
1 Corinthians 9:20And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
1 Corinthians 9:21To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
1 Corinthians 9:22To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
1 Corinthians 9:23And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
1 Corinthians 9:24Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
1 Corinthians 9:25And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
1 Corinthians 9:26I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
1 Corinthians 9:27But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
1 Corinthians 9:1-25 (New International Version)
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1 Corinthians 9
Paul’s Rights as an Apostle
1 Corinthians 9:1 Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not the result of my work in the Lord?
1 Corinthians 9:2 Even though I may not be an apostle to others, surely I am to you! For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
1 Corinthians 9:3 This is my defense to those who sit in judgment on me.
1 Corinthians 9:4 Don’t we have the right to food and drink? 5 Don’t we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas[a]?
1 Corinthians 9:6 Or is it only I and Barnabas who lack the right to not work for a living?
1 Corinthians 9:7 Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat its grapes? Who tends a flock and does not drink the milk?
1 Corinthians 9:8 Do I say this merely on human authority? Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? 9 For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.”[b] Is it about oxen that God is concerned?
1 Corinthians 9:10 Surely he says this for us, doesn’t he? Yes, this was written for us, because whoever plows and threshes should be able to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest.
1 Corinthians 9:11 If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you?
1 Corinthians 9:12 If others have this right of support from you, shouldn’t we have it all the more? But we did not use this right. On the contrary, we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ.
1 Corinthians 9:13 Don’t you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar?
1 Corinthians 9:14 In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.
1 Corinthians 9:15 But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me, for I would rather die than allow anyone to deprive me of this boast.
1 Corinthians 9:16 For when I preach the gospel, I cannot boast, since I am compelled to preach. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel!
1 Corinthians 9:17 If I preach voluntarily, I have a reward; if not voluntarily, I am simply discharging the trust committed to me. 18 What then is my reward? Just this: that in preaching the gospel I may offer it free of charge, and so not make full use of my rights as a preacher of the gospel.
Paul’s Use of His Freedom
1 Corinthians 9:19 Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law.
1 Corinthians 9:21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.
The Need for Self-Discipline
1 Corinthians 9:24 Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. 25 Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever.
Footnotes:
a. 1 Corinthians 9:5 That is, Peter
b. 1 Corinthians 9:9 Deut. 25:4
Acts 4:32-37
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The Believers Share Their Possessions
Acts 4:32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.
Acts 4:33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all
Acts 4:34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales
Acts 4:35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.
Acts 4:36 Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”), 37 sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet.

Acts 5
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Acts 5
Ananias and Sapphira
Acts 5:1 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property.
Acts 5:2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
Acts 5:3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
Acts 5:5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. 6 Then some young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him.
Acts 5:7 About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 Peter asked her, “Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?”
“Yes,” she said, “that is the price.”
Acts 5:9 Peter said to her, “How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.”
Acts 5:10 At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11 Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.
2 Corinthians 9
Generosity Encouraged
2 Corinthians 9
2 Corinthians 9:6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.
7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.
9 As it is written: “They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor; their righteousness endures forever.”[a]
2 Corinthians 9:10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness.
2 Corinthians 9:11 You will be enriched in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God.
2 Corinthians 9:12 This service that you perform is not only supplying the needs of the Lord’s people but is also overflowing in many expressions of thanks to God.
2 Corinthians 9:13 Because of the service by which you have proved yourselves, others will praise God for the obedience that accompanies your confession of the gospel of Christ, and for your generosity in sharing with them and with everyone else.
2 Corinthians 9:14 And in their prayers for you their hearts will go out to you, because of the surpassing grace God has given you.
2 Corinthians 9:15 Thanks be to God for his indescribable g

for me it is about helping the poor and loving the widows if my wealth bless these people that is what i see is the goal of the gospel to love people with our wealth

Acts 4:32-37

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The Believers Share Their Possessions
32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.
36 Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”), 37 sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet.

Wealth as a Word In Scriptures appears (31) times in the king James bible.

Genesis 34:29 And all their wealth, and all their little ones, and their wives took they captive, and spoiled even all that was in the house.

Deuteronomy 8:17 And thou say in thine heart, My power and the might of mine hand hath gotten me this wealth.

Deuteronomy 8:18 But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.

Ruth 2:1 And Naomi had a kinsman of her husband's, a mighty man of wealth, of the family of Elimelech; and his name was Boaz.

2 Samuel 2:32 And thou shalt see an enemy in my habitation, in all the wealth which God shall give Israel: and there shall not be an old man in thine house for ever.

1 Kings 15:20 And Menahem exacted the money of Israel, even of all the mighty men of wealth, of each man fifty shekels of silver, to give to the king of Assyria. So the king of Assyria turned back, and stayed not there in the land.

2 Chronicles 1:11 And God said to Solomon, Because this was in thine heart, and thou hast not asked riches, wealth, or honour, nor the life of thine enemies, neither yet hast asked long life; but hast asked wisdom and knowledge for thyself, that thou mayest judge my people, over whom I have made thee king:

2 Chronicles 1:12 Wisdom and knowledge is granted unto thee; and I will give thee riches, and wealth, and honour, such as none of the kings have had that have been before thee, neither shall there any after thee have the like.

Ezra 9:12 Now therefore give not your daughters unto their sons, neither take their daughters unto your sons, nor seek their peace or their wealth for ever: that ye may be strong, and eat the good of the land, and leave it for an inheritance to your children for ever.

Esther 10:3 For Mordecai the Jew was next unto king Ahasuerus, and great among the Jews, and accepted of the multitude of his brethren, seeking the wealth of his people, and speaking peace to all his seed.

Job 21:13 They spend their days in wealth, and in a moment go down to the grave.

Job 31:25 If I rejoice because my wealth was great, and because mine hand had gotten much;

Psalms 44:12 Thou sellest thy people for nought, and dost not increase thy wealth by their price.

Psalms 49:6 They that trust in their wealth, and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches;

Psalms 49:10 For he seeth that wise men die, likewise the fool and the brutish person perish, and leave their wealth to others.

Psalms 66:12 Thou hast caused men to ride over our heads; we went through fire and through water: but thou broughtest us out into a wealthy place.

Psalms 112:3 Wealth and riches shall be in his house: and his righteousness endureth for ever.

Proverbs 5:10 Lest strangers be filled with thy wealth; and thy labours be in the house of a stranger;

Proverbs 10:15 The rich man's wealth is his strong city: the destruction of the poor is their poverty.

Proverbs 13:11 Wealth gotten by vanity shall be diminished: but he that gathereth by labour shall increase.

Proverbs 13:22 A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.

Proverbs 18:11 The rich man's wealth is his strong city, and as an high wall in his own conceit.

Proverbs 19:4 Wealth maketh many friends; but the poor is separated from his neighbour.

Ecclesiastes 5:19 Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God.

Ecclesiastes 6:2 A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.

Jeremiah 49:31 Arise, get you up unto the wealthy nation, that dwelleth without care, saith the LORD, which have neither gates nor bars, which dwell alone.

Zephaniah14:14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.

Acts 19:25 Whom he called together with the workmen of like occupation, and said,
Sirs, ye know that by this craft we have our wealth.

1 Corinthians 10:24 Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth.

Ephesians 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

this is a good post some guy called the wordtalk just attack me for tell the truth about false teachers

He does not make the kind of argument you made, that just because we are 'already' blessed, then as Christians we don't need to sow seed - that is just lame grumbling that many people often raise to show their ignorance in the things of God.

I did not make myself clear i was saying these people twist the bible to exploit the  people there  is nothing wrong in giving it is more blessed to give than receive I am against people making merchandise out of the innocent that is my point

(KJV) Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ

(NIV) Ephesians 1:3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.

The Thing is you’re already blessed in Christ why would you need to sow a seed for the word already declares the work is already done in Christ, he become poor that we might become rich it’s like paying for a meal that is on the house?
These false preachers never tell people the truth?

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"why are you following a man not Jesus Christ" this a ridiculous question it is infact prove positive you don't know Pastor Chris and have never followed his teachings because if you did you wouldn't make such comments doesn't pastor point people to Jesus? Or when you hear you hear wrongly? Perhaps again you should take these recommendations more seriously go and listen to these teachings; The person of Jesus, Who is Jesus, The master Soul Winner, The wonderful name of Jesus etc.
Be that as it may is it wrong to follow a man who follows Christ Jesus as a demonstrative expression of response to leadership after all haven't read these passages of the scriptures
1Corinthians 11:1
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

1 Corinthians 4:16 Therefore I urge you to imitate me.
Philippians 3:17 Join with others in following my example, brothers, and take note of those who live according to the pattern we gave you.

These references must be estranged to you or maybe you thinking they were extracted from the qua ran?
The issue of following a man is not one of replacement and substitution of Christ' place in our lives rather it's one of submission to leadership. If you dislike a person it is possible that is so simply because you don't know that person or you do but pollutants in the form of jealousy, envy, pride, frustration are beclouding the truth in your heart all in defended of grieve

Is pastor Chris God I KNOW HE TEACHS he is a “god” but he is just flesh and he teaches heresies how can, I be the anti-Christ for telling you he is the anti-Christ there is misstep in your logic there?
I will come back to you on this I am busy working on a project I will have to spend hours typing for this one, to finally put it to bed for good

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7e9vnwTjJA

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Mike Murdock is the worst one running after seed the miracle of the 1000 Dollar seed but watch this link and if you can post this video please I can’t get it to work here
(KJV) Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ
(NIV) Ephesians 1:3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.
The Thing is you’re already blessed in Christ why would you need to sow a seed for the word already declares the work is already done in Christ, he become poor that we might become rich its like paying for a meal that is on the house?
These false preacher never tell people the truth?

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this time i can tell its not me this time i am anti pastor chris but this is not me

PASTOR CHRIS OYAKHILOME TEACHES THAT SALVATION COMPLETED IN HELL.

part 1

PROSPERITY GOSPEL PREACHERS SPREAD PENIAPHOBIA- FEAR OF POVERTY



Whereas we will not get into the unnecessary theological arguments on the Jesus- went to hell Doctrine (which involves translations, bible versions and Hebrew and Greek customs), we will however defend the faith concerning how Prosperity Gospel preachers use it for their gain and as a justification of and loving the world.


In his DVD teaching ” Who is a Christian ” Pastor Chris erroneously declares the following.

1. A Christian who suffers from diabetes does not know the truth and A Christian cannot fall sick
because he is born of God and not of blood when he is born gain – what about Timothy and Epaphroditus in Philippians were they not born again?

2.Satan has lost his power – yet Satan is the god of this world. It does not make him more powerful than God Almighty but he also has power.

3.Jesus defeated Satan in hell not at the cross—- but what do the Scriptures say for that is our final authority as believers ?
1.Ephesians 1:7 declares that Jesus made those who were far from God near to him by HIS BLOOD.

2.Colossians 1:13-14 declares that Jesus gave us believers redmption through HIS BLOOD

To nail this Prosperity Gospel Heresy of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome is Colossians 2:14 where it says that he spoiled principalities and powers triumphing over them in HIS CROSS.

This is why Paul declared solely that he will preach Christ crucified .He did not say he will preach Jesus in Hell, did he ?
Peter boldly declared that we have been redeemed with the precious blood of Jesus and not corruptible things such as gold. The blood of Jesus that was shed was for our redemption without which we would have been condemned.From his death we receive forgiveness of sins because sins separate us from God ,yet God does not want us, his creation to be separated from him. He wants us to be reconciled to him.

With all these scriptures that clearly declare where Jesus defeated the powers and principalities why do Pastors want to add to the scriptures simply because the Apostle’s Creed says that Jesus descended to hell. They actually MODIFY THE APOSTLES CREED by saying that Jesus descended to hell and defeated the devil yet the scriptures say this was done at the cross.

The issue is not about descent but about redemption from sin, because sin is the sting of death. Satan led man to sin but man has been redeemed by Jesus who shed his blood for us for life is in the blood and not in hell.

The Prosperity Preachers preach this doctrine because when people hear the word hell they know it is a place of suffering and weeping.

However the closest picture to hell is poverty. Yet most of the congregation are working class and thus should be taught how to share with one another.

The irony of Prosperity churches is that they despise poor saints yet they claim to break the spirit of poverty.

In fact the true gospel is about giving to the poor and sharing not hoarding riches for yourself and being grateful to God for that which you have as long as you have worked for it.

PENIAPHOBIA AND THE GROWTH OF THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL IN AFRICA

Many working class Africans come from poor/middle level backgrounds with a few who have been in well to do families. In fact poverty only became an extreme issue in the early 80s and 90s when the Oil crisis led to Economic Neo Colonization by the World Bank and IMF which created Extreme Capitalism in Africa. There are both stinking rich Africans and wallowing poor people .

One British anaylst analysed Kenya’s multi-national population and its relation to poverty and wealth as follows

‘ … very FEW Kenyan Whites (a minority population) are poor and some of them are very rich, some
Kenyan Asians are very poor and other Kenyan Asians are very rich;
but when it comes to black Kenyans who make up the majority of the population
MANY Black Kenyans are very poor but the richest Kenyan elite are Black Kenyans.

This grinding poverty has made many desperate and depressed especially the working poor. Thus prosperity Gospel came with promises of peace and riches and freedom from the hell of poverty( not sin and the devil) if one only gives their life to Jesus.

The more prosperity preaching the more poverty, the more the crime, the more the giving because the rich preachers of the churches get richer and the poor givers get poorer for giving more but receiving less hence more poverty.

The Prosperity Gospel destroys the focus of the gospel by putting emphasis on getting rich quick since that means you are escaping hell on earth. Yet what the scriptures teach is that giving to the poor and SHARING AMONG BELIEVERS AND ALL MEN are the ways of dealing with grinding poverty as one ‘s heart desires holiness and righteousness and love not greed and jealousy.

—
a typical Kenyan mansion- Many Christians have been blinded to desire and think about mansions than holiness

Moreover this get rich scheme comes with a cost called tithe an Old Covenant command, you must bribe God for him to bless you and make you rich like Abraham. However we are in the New Covenant and the Levitical Law is inapplicable …we are to give and not tithe and the giving is for the ministry of the saints not building big castles falsely called churches.

Jesus died for your sins to be forgiven and not for you to drive 3 cars and live in 2 mansions when your brother has lost his job and has no food to eat. Look at the stats and see where Prosperity Gospel thrives, Poverty thrives the more. Prosperity Gospel fuels Greed and not the Love of God.

The Salvation In Hell teaching is bent at making Christians believe that all suffering Christians are not really born again when actually that is a lie. When poverty is feared like that ,you feel sorry for those who live in it for they face stigmatization and condemnation when it is the rich elite that manipulate the world ‘s economies hence punishing the poor.

This teaching insults the blood of Jesus thinking that redemption is found in the money seed one sent to TBN or to their pastor. Falsehood and dear Christian turn away from the Prosperity teachers that are teaching these lies.

Thus what Pastor Chris is preaching is false gospel that works to enrich himself by lying to you that you will be promoted and live stress free and have no disease because Jesus went to hell and defeated Satan. Jesus defeated Satan at the cross by shedding his blood for your sins that you may have access to God and life everlasting.



CHRIS OYAKHILOME TEACHES THAT JESUS DEFEATED SATAN IN HELL BLASPHEMY part 2

15MondayNov 2010


This is in response to people who still believe that Pastor Chris Oyakhilome is right in teaching that we got salvation from Hell and not in the blood of Jesus.This is a false gospel that attracts money and does not teach people the truth about what Jesus did on the cross for us all.

They preach it because people want heaven on earth meaning riches when Jesus dais seek FIRST the kingdom of God and His Righteousness then all these thing shall be added unto you.

—
Pastor Chris Oyakhhilome , teaching the false Salvation in Hell Blasphemy that is well spread by many prominent TBN preachers,

First what the scriptures say in full about our redemption in his BLOOD.

Ephesians 1:7
In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace


Colossians 1:14
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Colossians 2:14-15
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it

The Last verse shows that Jesus triumphed over the principalities and powers IN THE CROSS.The cross is where he shed his blood.

In the Law, the shedding of blood for the atonement of one’s sins was necessary for remission and righteousness.

And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. Heb 9:22

WHAT IS SIN?

It is the transgression of God’s law. All have transgressed because all came from Adam who transgressed against God.

Satan’s main weapon is not poverty or sickness as Pastor Chris and others want us to believe.Satan’s main weapon is SIN.

He sinned and was condemned and thus he came to God’ s creation so that they would sin also and be condemned like him.

Through sin, he wants to steal God’s creation by capturing them to his side to receive the same condemnation set for him.

Many are going to Hell not because they were poor and never lived like an ambassadors as Christ embassy wants us to believe).

Many are not going to hell because they had cancer and refused to plant a seed to get healed.

Many are going to Hell because of SIN, SIN, SIN.

HOW DOES GOD DEAL WITH SIN IN THE WORD OF GOD ?

God allowed for the shedding of a spotless animal for the remission of sins.
And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.Heb 9:22

WHY BLOOD ?

The blood of the flesh is the life of the flesh.

11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. Lev 17:11

The flesh includes the lambs and bullocks that were sacrificed for sins and other offerings.

Jesus shed his blood as the Passover Lamb. Remember what happened in Egypt where the Israelites were told to sacrifice a lamb and smear its blood on the lintels of the door. When the Angel of Death came he did not cause death to come to the homes which had the blood.

When John saw Jesus as he came for baptism, John declared that this was the Lamb that taketh away the sin of the world.

The lamb ‘s spotlessness signified the holiness/cleansing that was given to the people once it was slaughtered for their sins because the life of flesh is in the blood.

The Righteousness of God is imputed on us since the spotless, holy lamb called Jesus, died for the cleansing of us sinners. He then rose again for our justification.

HOW HAS THE BLOOD OF JESUS DEFEATED SATAN

Since Satan tempted man to sin, death and darkness filled the world. Jesus paid the price for us by being the holy precious lamb that gave his life for the life of the condemned world.

Sin Separated man from God but now through the blood of Jesus we have access to the Father.

Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
And having an high priest over the house of God;
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. Heb 10:20-22


This access is important to the believer for it guarantees our access to God through prayer by which when we pray in the name of Jesus the Father hears us as we pray by his Spirit in the will of God.

We have access to Light, Love, Mercy, Wisdom, Grace, Inheritance ,Strength, Righteousness, Joy, Eternal Life, Truth, Peace because of the blood of Jesus. All these spiritual blessings. Amen.

More over if we sin he is faithful and just to forgive us if we confess. However this is not a ticket to sin as Jesus cannot come back and die again for the sins we commit. We should live holy by his grace ,grace of which we can get because of the new and living way ,by the blood of Jesus.

Entering the holiest was only for the High priest, but because of the blood of Jesus all believers have access.

And still this victory at the cross is leads to the resurrection of Jesus of which shows he has conquered DEATH. What is the sting of Death?? SIN

How is sin purged away ? By the shedding of Blood
Whose blood ? The Blood of Jesus Christ,
Where ? At the Cross.

The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 1 Cor 15:56

The mistake Pastor Chris is making is focusing on the wrong enemies or minor things. Sickness will not hinder you from inheriting God’s coming kingdom even though God does not desire sickness, which is a symptom of the fallen world because of sin’s entrance in the same.

These guys are preaching salvation to get worldly riches which are in the domain of the Prince of this world SATAN instead of the spiritual riches in Jesus Christ.

Poverty cannot separate you from the love of God and his promises even as God knows the suffering the poor face and calls for believers to show mercy and give to them.

Sin is what separates us from God and the coming blasphemy against the Holy Spirit during the 666 Economic system will certainly separate many from God forever.

Sin includes teaching false doctrine and sitting under false doctrines. The blind leader and his followers both fall into the ditch. False doctrine means Doctrine replacing God ‘s word ,hence idolatry which is sin.

Yet this is not what Pastor Chris and many others like Kenneth Copeland and Joyce Meyer who teach the same Salvation in Hell teaching are teaching.

They are busy teaching the Apostle’s creed Salvation/Salvation in Hell, twisting the scriptures.

The Biblical Salvation is that of Redemption in the blood of Jesus. This is why we overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony of Jesus the Lamb that was slain for the sins of the world. Who is alive and is coming back again to reign forever.
Amen.

PASTOR CHRIS OYAKHILOME TEACHES THAT SALVATION COMPLETED IN HELL.

part 1

PROSPERITY GOSPEL PREACHERS SPREAD PENIAPHOBIA- FEAR OF POVERTY



Whereas we will not get into the unnecessary theological arguments on the Jesus- went to hell Doctrine (which involves translations, bible versions and Hebrew and Greek customs), we will however defend the faith concerning how Prosperity Gospel preachers use it for their gain and as a justification of and loving the world.


In his DVD teaching ” Who is a Christian ” Pastor Chris erroneously declares the following.

1. A Christian who suffers from diabetes does not know the truth and A Christian cannot fall sick
because he is born of God and not of blood when he is born gain – what about Timothy and Epaphroditus in Philippians were they not born again?

2.Satan has lost his power – yet Satan is the god of this world. It does not make him more powerful than God Almighty but he also has power.

3.Jesus defeated Satan in hell not at the cross—- but what do the Scriptures say for that is our final authority as believers ?
1.Ephesians 1:7 declares that Jesus made those who were far from God near to him by HIS BLOOD.

2.Colossians 1:13-14 declares that Jesus gave us believers redmption through HIS BLOOD

To nail this Prosperity Gospel Heresy of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome is Colossians 2:14 where it says that he spoiled principalities and powers triumphing over them in HIS CROSS.

This is why Paul declared solely that he will preach Christ crucified .He did not say he will preach Jesus in Hell, did he ?
Peter boldly declared that we have been redeemed with the precious blood of Jesus and not corruptible things such as gold. The blood of Jesus that was shed was for our redemption without which we would have been condemned.From his death we receive forgiveness of sins because sins separate us from God ,yet God does not want us, his creation to be separated from him. He wants us to be reconciled to him.

With all these scriptures that clearly declare where Jesus defeated the powers and principalities why do Pastors want to add to the scriptures simply because the Apostle’s Creed says that Jesus descended to hell. They actually MODIFY THE APOSTLES CREED by saying that Jesus descended to hell and defeated the devil yet the scriptures say this was done at the cross.

The issue is not about descent but about redemption from sin, because sin is the sting of death. Satan led man to sin but man has been redeemed by Jesus who shed his blood for us for life is in the blood and not in hell.

The Prosperity Preachers preach this doctrine because when people hear the word hell they know it is a place of suffering and weeping.

However the closest picture to hell is poverty. Yet most of the congregation are working class and thus should be taught how to share with one another.

The irony of Prosperity churches is that they despise poor saints yet they claim to break the spirit of poverty.

In fact the true gospel is about giving to the poor and sharing not hoarding riches for yourself and being grateful to God for that which you have as long as you have worked for it.

PENIAPHOBIA AND THE GROWTH OF THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL IN AFRICA

Many working class Africans come from poor/middle level backgrounds with a few who have been in well to do families. In fact poverty only became an extreme issue in the early 80s and 90s when the Oil crisis led to Economic Neo Colonization by the World Bank and IMF which created Extreme Capitalism in Africa. There are both stinking rich Africans and wallowing poor people .

One British anaylst analysed Kenya’s multi-national population and its relation to poverty and wealth as follows

‘ … very FEW Kenyan Whites (a minority population) are poor and some of them are very rich, some
Kenyan Asians are very poor and other Kenyan Asians are very rich;
but when it comes to black Kenyans who make up the majority of the population
MANY Black Kenyans are very poor but the richest Kenyan elite are Black Kenyans.

This grinding poverty has made many desperate and depressed especially the working poor. Thus prosperity Gospel came with promises of peace and riches and freedom from the hell of poverty( not sin and the devil) if one only gives their life to Jesus.

The more prosperity preaching the more poverty, the more the crime, the more the giving because the rich preachers of the churches get richer and the poor givers get poorer for giving more but receiving less hence more poverty.

The Prosperity Gospel destroys the focus of the gospel by putting emphasis on getting rich quick since that means you are escaping hell on earth. Yet what the scriptures teach is that giving to the poor and SHARING AMONG BELIEVERS AND ALL MEN are the ways of dealing with grinding poverty as one ‘s heart desires holiness and righteousness and love not greed and jealousy.

—
a typical Kenyan mansion- Many Christians have been blinded to desire and think about mansions than holiness

Moreover this get rich scheme comes with a cost called tithe an Old Covenant command, you must bribe God for him to bless you and make you rich like Abraham. However we are in the New Covenant and the Levitical Law is inapplicable …we are to give and not tithe and the giving is for the ministry of the saints not building big castles falsely called churches.

Jesus died for your sins to be forgiven and not for you to drive 3 cars and live in 2 mansions when your brother has lost his job and has no food to eat. Look at the stats and see where Prosperity Gospel thrives, Poverty thrives the more. Prosperity Gospel fuels Greed and not the Love of God.

The Salvation In Hell teaching is bent at making Christians believe that all suffering Christians are not really born again when actually that is a lie. When poverty is feared like that ,you feel sorry for those who live in it for they face stigmatization and condemnation when it is the rich elite that manipulate the world ‘s economies hence punishing the poor.

This teaching insults the blood of Jesus thinking that redemption is found in the money seed one sent to TBN or to their pastor. Falsehood and dear Christian turn away from the Prosperity teachers that are teaching these lies.

Thus what Pastor Chris is preaching is false gospel that works to enrich himself by lying to you that you will be promoted and live stress free and have no disease because Jesus went to hell and defeated Satan. Jesus defeated Satan at the cross by shedding his blood for your sins that you may have access to God and life everlasting.



CHRIS OYAKHILOME TEACHES THAT JESUS DEFEATED SATAN IN HELL BLASPHEMY part 2

15MondayNov 2010


This is in response to people who still believe that Pastor Chris Oyakhilome is right in teaching that we got salvation from Hell and not in the blood of Jesus.This is a false gospel that attracts money and does not teach people the truth about what Jesus did on the cross for us all.

They preach it because people want heaven on earth meaning riches when Jesus dais seek FIRST the kingdom of God and His Righteousness then all these thing shall be added unto you.

—
Pastor Chris Oyakhhilome , teaching the false Salvation in Hell Blasphemy that is well spread by many prominent TBN preachers,

First what the scriptures say in full about our redemption in his BLOOD.

Ephesians 1:7
In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace


Colossians 1:14
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Colossians 2:14-15
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it

The Last verse shows that Jesus triumphed over the principalities and powers IN THE CROSS.The cross is where he shed his blood.

In the Law, the shedding of blood for the atonement of one’s sins was necessary for remission and righteousness.

And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. Heb 9:22

WHAT IS SIN?

It is the transgression of God’s law. All have transgressed because all came from Adam who transgressed against God.

Satan’s main weapon is not poverty or sickness as Pastor Chris and others want us to believe.Satan’s main weapon is SIN.

He sinned and was condemned and thus he came to God’ s creation so that they would sin also and be condemned like him.

Through sin, he wants to steal God’s creation by capturing them to his side to receive the same condemnation set for him.

Many are going to Hell not because they were poor and never lived like an ambassadors as Christ embassy wants us to believe).

Many are not going to hell because they had cancer and refused to plant a seed to get healed.

Many are going to Hell because of SIN, SIN, SIN.

HOW DOES GOD DEAL WITH SIN IN THE WORD OF GOD ?

God allowed for the shedding of a spotless animal for the remission of sins.
And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.Heb 9:22

WHY BLOOD ?

The blood of the flesh is the life of the flesh.

11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. Lev 17:11

The flesh includes the lambs and bullocks that were sacrificed for sins and other offerings.

Jesus shed his blood as the Passover Lamb. Remember what happened in Egypt where the Israelites were told to sacrifice a lamb and smear its blood on the lintels of the door. When the Angel of Death came he did not cause death to come to the homes which had the blood.

When John saw Jesus as he came for baptism, John declared that this was the Lamb that taketh away the sin of the world.

The lamb ‘s spotlessness signified the holiness/cleansing that was given to the people once it was slaughtered for their sins because the life of flesh is in the blood.

The Righteousness of God is imputed on us since the spotless, holy lamb called Jesus, died for the cleansing of us sinners. He then rose again for our justification.

HOW HAS THE BLOOD OF JESUS DEFEATED SATAN

Since Satan tempted man to sin, death and darkness filled the world. Jesus paid the price for us by being the holy precious lamb that gave his life for the life of the condemned world.

Sin Separated man from God but now through the blood of Jesus we have access to the Father.

Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
And having an high priest over the house of God;
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. Heb 10:20-22


This access is important to the believer for it guarantees our access to God through prayer by which when we pray in the name of Jesus the Father hears us as we pray by his Spirit in the will of God.

We have access to Light, Love, Mercy, Wisdom, Grace, Inheritance ,Strength, Righteousness, Joy, Eternal Life, Truth, Peace because of the blood of Jesus. All these spiritual blessings. Amen.

More over if we sin he is faithful and just to forgive us if we confess. However this is not a ticket to sin as Jesus cannot come back and die again for the sins we commit. We should live holy by his grace ,grace of which we can get because of the new and living way ,by the blood of Jesus.

Entering the holiest was only for the High priest, but because of the blood of Jesus all believers have access.

And still this victory at the cross is leads to the resurrection of Jesus of which shows he has conquered DEATH. What is the sting of Death?? SIN

How is sin purged away ? By the shedding of Blood
Whose blood ? The Blood of Jesus Christ,
Where ? At the Cross.

The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 1 Cor 15:56

The mistake Pastor Chris is making is focusing on the wrong enemies or minor things. Sickness will not hinder you from inheriting God’s coming kingdom even though God does not desire sickness, which is a symptom of the fallen world because of sin’s entrance in the same.

These guys are preaching salvation to get worldly riches which are in the domain of the Prince of this world SATAN instead of the spiritual riches in Jesus Christ.

Poverty cannot separate you from the love of God and his promises even as God knows the suffering the poor face and calls for believers to show mercy and give to them.

Sin is what separates us from God and the coming blasphemy against the Holy Spirit during the 666 Economic system will certainly separate many from God forever.

Sin includes teaching false doctrine and sitting under false doctrines. The blind leader and his followers both fall into the ditch. False doctrine means Doctrine replacing God ‘s word ,hence idolatry which is sin.

Yet this is not what Pastor Chris and many others like Kenneth Copeland and Joyce Meyer who teach the same Salvation in Hell teaching are teaching.

They are busy teaching the Apostle’s creed Salvation/Salvation in Hell, twisting the scriptures.

The Biblical Salvation is that of Redemption in the blood of Jesus. This is why we overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony of Jesus the Lamb that was slain for the sins of the world. Who is alive and is coming back again to reign forever.
Amen.

THIS IS COMMON TO MOST CHURCHES AND IT AGAINST THE TEACHING OF THE BIBLE

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- The pastor directs the members to the "bookshop" where enough copies of "A New Walk With God" have been stocked in anticipation of the upcoming sales.

- After the service, the pastor informs the heads of the cell groups that all individual cell meetings for the next two weeks will be based on specific chapters from the book. This guarantees that all cell group heads purchase a copy of the book.

- During the week, the cell group heads pass on the message to their members and "strongly encourage them" to buy the book so that they can contribute during the cell meetings.

- At the next church service, the pastor will openly ask the congregation to indicate by a show of hands who has a copy of "A New Walk With God" in their possession. Those who have bought the book happily wave their copies in the air and those who have not are publically shamed into buying their own copy at their earliest opportunity. Again, the thing to remember here is that this is happening in all the church branches - at the same time.

- As promised, the church services and cell meetings focus on chapters in the book and those who do not yet have a copy feel more and more compelled into taking a trip to the church bookshop where copies of "A New Walk With God" are steadily stocked up. This continues for two weeks until the "Book Review" comes to an end and just like that "A New Walk with God" may have sold over 100,000 copies world-wide - in just two weeks!

- Some churches (including the one with Embassies for Christ) can organise "Book Reviews" up to 7 or 8 times a year. Nice!

THIS IS WHAT MANY CHURCHS DO LIKE CHRIST EMBASSY

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Quote from: Joagbaje on March 01, 2012, 03:52 PM
Nothing s wrong if a church sell things. It depends on purpose and motives. Some people give things that can not be used and they have to be sold. Jesus definitely sold some stuff.If not,his desciples would not have asked for the perfume to be sold.

Mark 14:5
5 For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her.


In quoting Mark 14:5, why did you omit verse 4:
And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this waste of the ointment made? (Mar 14:4)[/b][/i]
And ignore:
Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him, Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein. (Joh 12:4-6)[/b][/i]

Judas as we all know so loved buying and selling that he sold Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.
So Joagbaje why do you love buying and selling so much? What is your price?

2 Corinthians 2:17 (King James Version)
17For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
2 Corinthians 2:17 (New International Version,)
17 Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, as those sent from God.
2 Corinthians 2:17 (New International Version - UK)
17 Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, like men sent from God.
2 Corinthians 2:17 (Amplified Bible)
17For we are not, like so many, [like hucksters making a trade of] peddling God's Word [shortchanging and adulterating the divine message]; but like [men] of sincerity and the purest motive, as [commissioned and sent] by God, we speak [His message] in Christ (the Messiah), in the [very] sight and presence of God.

2 Corinthians 2:17 (New Living Translation)
17 You see, we are not like the many hucksters[a] who preach for personal profit. We preach the word of God with sincerity and with Christ’s authority, knowing that God is watching us.
Footnotes:

2 Corinthians 2:17 (Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition)
17For we are not as many, adulterating the word of God; but with sincerity, but as from God, before God, in Christ we speak.




2 Corinthians 2:17 (Good News Translation)
17 We are not like so many others, who handle God's message as if it were cheap merchandise; but because God has sent us, we speak with sincerity in his presence, as servants of Christ.
Good News Translation (GNT)
2 Corinthians 2:17 (Contemporary English Version)
17A lot of people try to get rich from preaching God's message. But we are God's sincere messengers, and by the power of Christ we speak our message with God as our witness.

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