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Chelseafan1:
I'm still in a really bad mood, I wish I could get a sack cloth and cover my sorrowful self in it, I hate to see the team I love so much in such a dire condition.

Thank me later bruh..

This Airmark dude could be a handful when constituting a nuisance on other threads sha.

StarBoard:
Which one of those flops will displace Gbolahan Salami?
Is it Ukwudia Hazard?

Gbolahan salami no be ikedia mate!

As we speak, it would even be difficult for ikebe super to dislodge the likes of Anthony Opotu, Jimoh Aremu etc from their places in their respective teams

Kolade354:
only willian terry begovic and azpilicueta are playing for the team....Other player deserve to be shiped out to club like Akwa utd, Sunshine stars of akure, el-kanemi warrior of maiduguri.

Naso e easy reach??

Those clubs can only offer trials to your useless players & there's no assurance they would even scale through sef.

StarBoard:
Fixed

Na true oo..

Siasia never manage club before..

Khadiri ikhnana's wealth of experience would certainly do Chelsea a whole lot of good.

If only Roman could climb down from his high horse & approach Mikel, atleast that one(Mikel) go even get chance to contribute something meaningful to Chelsea's cause for once.

Sai Khadiri

Abrahimovic had better collect Samson Siasia's digits from Mikel before Mourihno relegates this hopeless club!!

chrisley024:
wish you know the amount of chances assnal create

Won't you rather have him in rooney's place??

Shey we no go buy this giroud bayi??

StarBoard:
This is my interpretation.
Since the game took a foothold of some sorts in the US via MLS I think the game got hooked on stats.
If you follow North American sports you would know what I'm saying. The NBA NFL NHL are stat driven. The audience to those sports yearn for stats and devour them religiously.
To make the game "viewable"(for lack of a better description) over there football/soccer had to incorporate the stat thing that has somehow found its way into mainstream/European journalism.
Assist hardly came up as a measure for evaluating strikers for example; but these days it is the tie breaker in competitions for the golden boot.
But we've gotten to the stage where every pundit has adopted stats in his repertoire and you and I are being left behind in trying to view the game the good old fashioned way we know it.
I tend to agree with your position, I'm just thinking that it's a kind of way that the game has evolved into-stat driven.

No doubt about this...

The crux of the matter is the loop-sided nature /unreliability of Stats-driven punditry. Yeah, some Stats might tally with certain obvious facts/qualities of certain players. However, the inconsistencies associated with those stats during multiple comparisons have... & would always be an issue.

We have seen instances whereby a "top player" X is adjudged to be better than another "top player Y" by certain parameters, only for us to realize that one rookie Z is actually better than both players (judging by these same parameters)...making mockery of whatever debate going on.

For me, the round-leather game is too complex for stats to serve as a major tool when evaluating a player's qualities & performances. A Neural Network with different parameters (in their hundreds or thousands) may work better in players statistical analysis but for me, I'd rely more on what I see with my two korokoro eyes.

darefestus:
Because Judging by stats alone, the likes of James Beatie, Andy Johnson, Darren Bent and Kevin Phillips would lay claims to being world class strikers at a point in their career.

...and lampard shíts on zidane everyday of the week.

StarBoard:
It then begs the question,
Under what circumstances do stats become relevant in assessing player(s) effectiveness?

Stats could be very very misleading...

How many times would we see mediocre players like Cleverley & Mikel come up with impressive numbers, despite their abysmal performances??

Why do scouts & managers travel long distances to watch certain players that are of interest to them when they can as well monitor the stats from the comfort of their homes (the fact that they even prefer watching them live & not on TV buttresses the fact that "seeing is believing".

For me, I'd rather pay more attention to what I see. I might then consider some basic numerical parameters but trust me, the former is more important to me.

darefestus:


Elampiro!!!!

Why are you surprised??

Is this the 1st time elampiro would make bogus claims in a bid to cover up for the inconsistencies associated with statistical analysis (of players)??

This issue has been pointed out on numerous occasions but of course, anything...just about anything could be put forward to back up arguments here (no matter how disjointed the argument is).

elampiro:
Giroud came in the second half of the season when everyone was already tired. Just like Sturridge did the season before. He became fit in December 2013, by January 2014 he was scoring like Ronaldo and Messi until he injured again.

In his absence, why didn't they score loads of goals ?? Elampiro..stats are facts, remember??

elampiro:
Aguero was far better than Costa last season. Look at his Assists.

Unfortunately, I have decided to rate them based on their primary function on the pitch - scoring goals!

Statistically, Diego Costa was the better CF last season.

Wetin stats don cause for this thread ehn..

elampiro:
Penalty
Giroud penalty = 0
Aguero =5
Kane = 2

Kane was very prolific too in Europe and cup games.


Coogar help with the rest stats on set play.

Ohkay..

If we are to remove setplays, the following assertions can be made from statistics..

• The difference in class between giroud & those guys wasn't too much.

•Diego Costa was the best CF in the league last season.

Do you agree??

elampiro:
Aguero 97.69 minutes per goal
Kane 122.95
Giroud 133.35

Ohkay..

Do those stats contain goals via setplay??

elampiro:
Which of the stats? Pls would you mind an hour later?

No wahala...

Number of Goals per min. I'm actually particular about last season. I go like see Aguero & Kane's too..

Elampiro, can you help me with giroud's stats (goals/mins) for this season & last season?

raumdeuter:
As per all the posts and counter posts, Its not really about the age or how long the poster has been posting its about the quality of their posts.
Someone like elampiro even though he recently started posting in this section, He adds more value to sporting debates than many here. even Nihilist even though joined around the same time came with interesting football perspective and his opinions are well respected that I even tried to convince him to be a Bayern fan several times
This is first a Sport section and it helps if your posts is Sport related even if there is a diss to it at the end not just several lines of "you are stuppidd , you are madd you are a bastardd".
If you notice most who carry this diss and cussfest for head are those who have nothing to contribute to the football related discussion
Many people became friends from this thread/forum. Many people have helped one another in one way or the other. One of my closest pals I met on this forum as a Man utd fan, Tkb, Nyabinghi and Starboard I knew them even before coming to this forum, chamtex and lalaboy are friends and they probably met from here, Some people got admissions, advise on life issues from random people they met here.
There are some people on here that can really help you in life. I have referred someone to Ibime and Debo and they helped him with admissions into a foreign uni which changed his life.
So if you check your whole posts and you see that its more than 50% picking a fight and not really football discussions then you are mostly reducing the quality on here.

I hear say na Nyabinghi dey "squat" you for AWO hall that year. Na true??

Kolade354:
You're daft
You tink I take this while thing serious.
You must be daft.

Ohkay, you don win.

ElFenomeno1:
Where is Dayokanu?
Dayokunu, ram the dog!!!!!
Come and give me a blow by blow account of the incident at the emirates on tuesday night!

Blow-job request from a typical GAYner fan!

Y'all are Hopeless!!

Leyqute:
If a lack of form is the reason how would you explain Blind's exclusion as well? He's started all of Utd's matches except the last two, just like Depay

It probably means the smalling/jones partnership has always been on LVG's mind & that blind was only filling in for the injured jones.

raumdeuter:
Gbe enu buruku e sohun you ungrateful omo

When you were on the brink of suicide and I decided to bail you out, Is this how you pay me back?

Beating or eliminating Arsenal is not a big deal to us. We have always done it

There is a reason Arsenal have NEVER finished ahead of us in a group nor eliminated us in knockout

We threw you a lifeline. If that was a knockout game trust me it would be different

Gbè ènù dàkè jare, ònísókusó óshi....

Despite all your pre-match boasts, your useless team with the most useless defender in the history of the UCL was gang-fùcked yet again by Arsenal. Instead make you sempe for one corner, you dey here dey form "ogbeni braggadocio" .Ori è tí daaru !!

Ènù è fèlè fèlè bí ígbà wàrà yèn...

adeyemi2015:
We gonna lose a slot if they are eliminated at the Group Stage Dude!

It might actually serve as the "kick-in-the backside" needed by EPL clubs in Europe (cc Mancity & That Hopless Arsenal FC)

adeyemi2015:
This isn't Premiership, rather Champions League! No Beefing bro!!!

Useless Clubs like Arsenal that go there to make up the numbers need to either shape up or ship out. It's high time the EPL returned to the days of glory & dominance in Europe.

adeyemi2015:
Though I am a Man United Fan, but I'm gonna fully support Arsenal tonight..... for the sake of Premiership!!!

I can't wait for them to be eliminated...

Atleast Elfenomeno & his battalion of lunatics will steer clear of the thread for the remainder of the season!

Elampiro, I can see you viewing. Longest time oo...

What's the latest on Rooney??

Y'all blaming the NPF should beat it Abeg..

Last time I checked, all branches in the military have a special unit code named OP-MESA designated to help assist in fighting crime in Lagos state.

Pataki:
Prophet Pataki was the first and sole person to point out on this thread that merefish is a blawdy fluke. I remember some manure fans insulted the living daylight out of this living sport oracle (Ifa).

Today, some of those scumtwats are now insulting the living daylight out of their beloved merefish.

Una go hear am walai this weekend. Just feature merefish for your team abeg.

If it makes you feel better, too bad but dude, enough United fans here have expressed their displeasure with his performances from the onset.

SailorXY:
this should be reality check to Memphis. He had preseason, arrived with much fanfare from his exploits over the past year & is older than Martial!

If this can't spur him to knuckle down & work his socks off, then we have a problem on our hands ..

He is the one with the problem on his hands...

I feel the "big-fish-in-the-little-pond" mentality he had at PSV still dey affect am, hence my annoyance with LVG for not benching his sorry arsè all this while.

If he fails to improve, LVG should kick him out of the club & bring Januzaj back!!

homesteady:
My man you are not a pregnant woman, you are just behaving like your hormones are high!
Get a grip of yourself and argue like a sane person.

Oh shut your traps, you painfully ignorant dolt. You came here with the moronic views atypical of premature runts like yourself and you think say we go swallow am hook-line & sinker? Where you think say you dey? this isnt your regular palmwine joint where you wow drunkards like yourself with your deluded opinions so as to sound informed.

homesteady:
You are trying to belittle Pique's achievement by saying it's the system that is helping him, and I'm countering your points by saying Defensive systems is what makes chelsea defenders look good!
I have given valid reference points - AVB's era and I also gave a very recent example of Roma! Instead of you to also reasonably counter my points, you are asking me silly questions!

how does this relate to the fact that pique virtually has little or nothing to do defensively because xavi, iniesta et al are busy passing & probing the opposing team to frustration, covering up his status as a mediocre defender in the process? Dem use stuupidity swear for you?

homesteady:
Jeezzz.... is this rocket science? if you can't understand this simple comment he made, then I shouldn't be surprised that you've been giving rubbish, off replies to my posts
Which sensible coach would be happy for his team to lose the ball especially when all his players are attack-minded, small players? the Full backs are always bombing forward, all the players are so high up the pitch, even the goalkeeper is high up his 18-box....... They don't have the luxury of forming 2 defensive lines of 4's when they lose the ball like every other team, and thats what every team is taking advantage of.

In a bid to sound knowledgeable, this semi-literate Dopey hasn't failed to disappoint us with another set of dumb analysis yet again...


Stop describing the tactics pep employed to cover up the inadequacies of useless pique & the likes, you foool.

homesteady:
For petes sake I gave 3 points
[s]1) 2nd highest clean sheets
2) 2nd least conceeded goals
3) Save the club from relegation the previous season
[/s]?

e no go better for that witch wey use stupidity swear for you....

what has this gotta do with the fact that he's sure to continue the cycle of mediocre goalies that have been synonymous with Barca for close to 15years (till date)??

homesteady:
There is no need for this beating around the bush!
Your team defense is very useless, why hasn't your coach adopted the barcelona system of covering the deficiencies of average defenders? after all, the system has won barcelona 2 trebles - tested and trusted

And who said the system hasnt worked, you glorified 1diot?? Is that the issue??

I ask again ... yaya toure, Mascherano & Abidal have also thrived in this system - are they also "special" like pique??

homesteady:
You can keep your sad opinion to yourself! Sensible people have acknowledged Bravo's bravado, he has made the best 11 of all competitions he played last season! You can keep your unknown -Dadehmola 'comity' of good goalies to yourself!

Bravo's mediocrity is actually higher than the rank stupidity permanently infused into your pathetic soul. For you to have babbled your 1st words at age 15, The sky is truly the limit for your fooolishness, You fat dullard!

homesteady:
Mr man, El classico is the biggest league game in the world, so its not just any game!

Clap for yourself!

homesteady:
Chelsea park the bus system is also used to cover the deficiencies of their defenders, agreed?

what sort of moronic question is this?? whats the primary objective of a team that employs clearly defensive tactics? How exactly does chelsea's tactics correlate with Pique's Uselessness as a CB?

since it's apparent you fail to pay attention to details, lemme post this again for the last time..

PepGuardiola: We play in the other team's half as much as possible because I get worried when the ball is in my half," he says. "We're a horrible team without the ball so I want us to get it back as soon as possible and I'd rather give away fouls and the ball in their half than ours.

If the manager himself said this, how else do you want us to force it into your brain that Pique (and other useless players in Barca's defensive unit) benefited from the system that clearly masked their weaknesses?

homesteady:
[s]During Roma vs Barcelona match, Roma parked a double decker bus, their defenders looked so good and were bringing back memories of Maldini, but during their match against ordinary Bate, they played a normal game and they were flogged 3-0 before half time, it was a comedy of errors, their was no bus to cover up their deficiencies! They were exposed like how Chelsea was been exposed during AVB's tenure![/s]

And of what relevance is this meaningless epistle?

It isnt by force to post, oga..

homesteady:
Na wa ohh!
Didn't you read were I said he had the 2nd highest no of clean sheets and 2nd least goals conceded in Bundesliga immediately after saving the club from relegation the previous season?
Is this one moment of brilliance?

You are painfully idiotic (No offence)....
Lukasz Fabianski & Simon Mignolet had more clean sheets than De Gea last season. By your warped reasoning, we should say that **********

homesteady:
[s]Stop displaying your ignorance about players you don't know, it's not a crime not to know all footballers! This guy was arguably the best keeper in UCL last season, he even saved a PK against man city!
Apart from his sharp reflex, his distribution of the ball is world class, many players in your team will blush at his passing skills, he is a sweeper keeper!
He has made some mistakes this early season, coupled with the series of injuries that has been blighting barcelona defense, he is a young keeper and still learning[/s]!

spare us the redundant Ph.d thesis, Signore....

Ter Stergen is wack as furk, QED!!

homesteady:
Your defense is very useless, Arsenal annihilated it in less than 19 minutes, since barcelona defensive technique can be used to cover for 'useless' defenders, why has your Van gaal not yet adopted the system? Should I tell you why?

Because he knows even Lobi stars will scatter them if he tries it with this current crop of defenders. He knows only special defenders can cope with the system and not every tom, dićk and Harry can cope!

This has to be the daftest piece of bollocks i have read in a while....

By your retarded logic, since the likes of Mascherano & Abidal have thrived in this system, they are "special" Defenders

I have really over-estimated your IQ...

homesteady:
The question is as simple as ABC! When Barcelona won bayern, people blamed his highline defense, because he was playing against the best trio in the world, and he was expected to tell his tell his defense line to drop deep! it was trending on twitter.
That shows you how risky and difficult it is to play in a highline defense, yet Piqué made his name in such a system! He played against the former best attacking trio(BBC) with the same highline and still bossed many games

Made a name in a system that saw Yaya Toure Boss a UCL final? In the same system where Abidal also "bossed" at CB - The system that has seen the seamless conversion of Mascherano to a CB?

homesteady:
You are a very confused person ohh, a keeper has shined in worldcup, copa America, and la liga, what more are you asking for? is it until he saves your girlfriend from dumping you before you know he is a good keeper? SMH

Its pretty evident the uselessness and cluelessness synonymous with Barcelona goalies over the past 10 years is beginning to manifest in that shallow mind of yours...

how can any sane mind rate Bravo in the comity of good goalies? Guy.. Football Punditry isnt by force. Go and look for a thread where Ludo or Drafts is the main subject of discourse & stop constituting a nuisance here!!