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SailorXY: I remember CR7 powered a thunderous bullet of a header to the utter dismay of Jonzing Mouthinho, but what I can't remember is the actual midfield set-up.

I remember...

Scholes was at the thick of things as usual.

SailorXY: however, the match against Chelshit u were referring to was the semis before the final against Barca in Wembley?

I wasn't referring to that match.

I even remember a certain 2-0 victory over Chelsea at oldtrafford - a league match. Tevez and Saha scored.... With scholes/carrick running things as usual.

SailorXY: even the semis against Barca, I can't see how we were dominant.

Whilst scholes was bossing things alongside carrick in CMF, hargo was tasked with keeping iniesta quiet on the left wing (no disrespect to the Englishman)

SailorXY: & yes, the glorious final in Rome had Hargreaves on the right wing when we had possession, without possession Hargreaves was the destroyer. 4-4-2 with the ball, 4-3-3 without the ball & 4-1-2-3 shape on the counter {I know all the argument about the formation on the night, I'm not interested in that tho. I just stated what I observed}

The koko be say; scholes and carrick was our default CMF pairing that night. If fergie really needed Hargreaves at the middle of the park, he would have started him there, with another player taking his position on the wing.

Our inability to replace scholes has always been seen as the major problem in our team, not just our midfield.

SailorXY: I can't remember the Inter game quite clearly but you saying we dominated Barcelona?

We won 2-0 against inter (Hargreaves wasn't even on the bench if my memory serves me right).

The Barcelona match in question is the 1-0 victory curtesy a 25yard screamer from scholes with hargo playing at RB

SailorXY: I can remember the sheer tenacity of JS Park, even against Chelshit

Park didn't play against Chelsea in the ucl final - He wasn't even on the bench. We had scholes and carrick up against lampard, ballack and makelele that night, with hargo on the RHS of midfield

SailorXY: how many top teams did Scholes & Carrick outplay without Hargreaves?

Inter Milan, Barcelona, Chelsea (both in Europe and on the domestic scene, despite the blues parading ballack, lampard, essien makelele and deco) etc

SailorXY: we've missed them both because its been regression in quality since Keane left. they complemented each other & they both did it with their backs in.

..Yet we have seen scholes partner the "ajebutter" carrick to great effect!

SailorXY: however, Keane's presence was enough menace even to put off Vieira - as stoutly built as the Frenchman was. to replace such command, poise, confidence & quality is never easy.

That's why I'd rather say we have missed keane's on-field leadership qualities, not necessarily his tactical importance.

SailorXY: opposing players will think twice before trying to bully Kagawa or Mata or Januzaj if such a presence is also on that pitch

These players excelled at their former clubs without necessarily having a feisty roy keane instilling fear in opponents.

SailorXY: there a players like Modric & Fabregas, who can bridge @ least half of what Scholes can do. what we haven't come close to replacing is Keane, & who the hell is Matic? he has problems moving his heavy body about.
if u had options of modric or schwein or Martinez for our middle now, who will be ur pick

I'd pick modric 200 times over and over again.

If we had a "midfield dictator" half as good as he is, our midfield won't be in its present state.

You haven't answered my question: for scholes and keane- who we dey miss pass?

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SailorXY: now that flat tyre is our DM position which we have 'managing' since Keano. Michael Carrick has been successful so far but we all know he doesn't get here and there or throw mud in our opponent's faces. he hardly inspires fear of any kind, just a quiet effective guy: still we had a rock-like five behind! please don't ever for a second underestimate the experience & leadership qualities that has been lost with Evra, Rio, Vidic & van Der Sar.
now, we have 'potential' @ the back. its telling to say that Rafael & Evans are our most senior (experienced) defenders. the logical thing to do now is to 'change that clog in our wheel' first. Carrick is 33? Fletcher is just being honored as it stands, so why no effect that change for the greater good? before upgrading 'your transmission or brakes'

TBH, me thinks this DM issue should be downplayed a lil bit.

*Who do you think man united's midfield misses the most - scholes or keane?

*If you were to be in a position to strengthen our midfield and you had modric and maybe a matic as options to choose from, who would you go for?

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SailorXY: football is a team sport bros. City & Chelshit have constantly had better players than United since the sugadaddies; how many leagues titles do they have between them from then compared to man united?
Madrid had better players, expensively assembled when they relied on a Nani red card to make progress against united.
this is all about balance, forget about our defence. what's in front of our defence is the problem.
we've good a shot-stopper that can hold his own anywhere, a young & tidy backline. yes, experience has been lost but still its decent enough; with potential to be world-beaters.
moving further upfront: since the days of Roy Keane, united fans have suffered mediocrity. Hargreaves was an exception, but he couldn't last long enough. I'm talking of battlers that put shivers in you even when you had possession of the ball.
the defence has no protection, that's no Herrera's specialty! why have we refused to upgrade this part of the pitch for so long??
the anomaly is also drifting to the wings now, Ronaldo & Giggs gone... Valencia & Young as replacements, I mean for fvck's sake the standard keep falling!
who knows? maybe when van Persie is gone, we may replace with Cavani or another pile of shitfuck from somewhere***
why? why? why?

Are we going for vidal because we need to "screen the back four"?

We could as well go for a player like matic or fernando..

What an assist by fabregas!

If only moyes had succeeded in getting him, we probably won't be talking about Vidal now

Please when will the 2014/2015 admission exercise commence?

elampiro: Di Maria, Rooney and RVP can all play in the 3-5-2. Rooney or Di Maria can play in the wing. Or we rotate them on 3-5-2 while we start them all in other formation. 28 to 32 league appearances is okay for them. Injury will come in too.

In short you want our 37m January signing out of the team?

elampiro: Why did we not sign Di Maria immediately after the world cup or as soon as Madrid indicated interest in Rodriquez or when PSG opted out. We will have to cough out at least £60m now.

I don't look at goals stat to judge players. Everyone knew Di Maria was a world class, when a big club get an opportunity of signing a world class player in a position that is vacant, it seizes such an opportunity. No delay.

Whether or not our 3-5-2 works with Val, Shaw and Young. We will still need a player like Di Maria to give us opins and something extra and special. If Januzaj or Lingaard can play wing back, why can't Di Maria? He seats deep and uses his speed to zig zag his way forward, then Mata, Rooney and RVP come brilliantly alive.

Elampiro, this issue has been discussed on numerous occassions. If Rooney, Rvp and mata are to be regular starters in LVG's preferred 3-5-2 formation, where will the 45m rated Argentinian fit in?

coogar: your father's persistent foolishness didn't end in 1966 when he conceived the idea to sire you.

Pele

Limerick: Am new here, hope am welcomed?

You are most welcome, bro. As you can see, sauron's (rapdevil is also one of his poly monikers) persistent f00lishness ( since 2006) doesn't end in the rap section. We are also made to face it here.

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coogar: [s]mortal kombat on whose head? this is about the 6th time each of y'all are getting served the coogar medicine. only fools continue to try the same method that produces failure.[/s]

[s]at this rate, you better go hire who can write for you or get ideas from your parents to come at me. this is e-bullying. 5 faggöts versus coogar & he kills them effortlessly

i feel like gannicus in this arena![/s]

[s] mr asubiaro, what exactly are you? your parents didn't send you to school to be a cheerleader. at least, come up with one idea and drop something hot.[/s]

[s]seriously, where's your dignity? every other day, i piss on your entire lineage and all you do is walk away like a coward. na wa. in a decade's time, your kids will read this piece and think their dad is the most irresponsible man since the fall of man![/s]

Just when I thought i had seen the dumbest shot ever, I stumbled on this again...

coogar: i said so - you only fück men.
every woman has some sort of discharge, it's a cleansing process for them. how would you know this

After collecting money from your fans, is this the rubbish you could entertain them with?

Don't you ever talk about rooney not being worthy of his 300k/week salary ever again!! You are the real fraud here!!

coogar: bloody faggöt!
back who? this is exactly why i detach myself from you aśs-loving heterophobes.

i am a lone ranger, i don't need your support. who wants to associate with your faggöt crew. when you plebs get infected, afrodoc would use his voodoo/witchdoctoring to cure una venereal diseases.

With all the mouth wey you don dey make, see as guys just dey practice mortal kombat combo styles untop ya gorimapa head.

And what do you do in return? You post weak and lame punchlines like this....

coogar: nihilist accosts & slaps a gentleman walking on the street, the man slaps him back viciously.....as the man wanted to deliver the killer blow, nihilist went..... "leave me, i don't have the stamina to go back & forth with you"

Clement, you sef read am nau...

You fall hand oo!

coogar: demola asubiaro, it's clifford, not clement.
how many times will you be corrected. that was how you spent 9 years in a polytechnic & you could only manage a certificate of attendance.

you have been dull since conception!

Sorry nau.

Oya come make I back you...

coogar: pain for the coog?
the one man wrecking crew? you are too little to cause a scratch.

demola asubiaro, i repeat - your type is too light to punch through a wet paper bag.



the faggöts somehow think forming a mob would subdue the coog. they should add more numbers to the crew. oloshious fellows. all they do is post snide remarks, gossip about other posters like a bunch of sissies.

Clement Oya sorry

coogar: fagdemola, you are wasting time o....
won't you transform to tarpout today like you always do?

i just love what coogar serves. ghosts or real posters, everyone gets slaughtered. i don't care whose cöck you suck.

Heeeeeeeeeee!!

E don pain am as usual

Nihilist: What kind of dirty woman has stains in her underwear?

She must have a very thick and smelly bush...so I'm not to surprised that you are to be found there...afterall your job requires you to live in the bush....

Can you imagine the dirty midgetfucker bragging about nacking dirty girls?

Your lack of hygiene on the outside closely mirrors the dirtiness of your brain...

You must be suffering from aboki syndrome...having spent so much time with farm animals, you think it's a thing of pride to be dirty...

And you sabi say this dude never recover from afrodoc's jaw-breaking hooks and jabs.

Gustavo, stop this child abuse abeg!

iheanyi40: Dis thread tho

I dey tell you..

afrodoc: This guy u too like make them dey punish person sha, why you dey laugh like Baron Samedi?

I nearly choked on my food when I saw this...

Nihilist: Starboard has ridden you so many times, you have had to install a sofa in your trousers.

This has to be the most hilarious thread on nairaland

coogar: you should go to bed!
you talk a lot of good game yourself but a cursory glance at your posts on this thread reeks of dïck-riding elampawa.

Are you by any chance referring to honorable Gustavo as a reverse cowgirl ??

elampiro: On a good day? Where has there ever been a good day for Kagawa?

Short pass is not Rooney's problem. He's more adventurous with all his passes, and the error rate will be higher as a result.

Rooney short passes are bad, his first touch poor. Yet a world class coach made him a captain.

Rooney is a zillion mile ahead of RVP in 1-2 play. No one says that.

Okay You are correct.

Nihilist: Shots fired?

So Elamps had eyes but cannot see?

Elampiro, Dahdemola just sent out 2 speculative shots in your direction...

Elampiro you need to preejaculate on this beef...Pull out early and buss!!!

Oniranu olosi

elampiro: So who can? RVP or Chicha or Kagawa?

Man United is not playing well enough to create chances and it affects everyone.

On his day, the Japanese is the master of the craft.

Elampiro, you really need to start accepting rooney's shortcomings - the obvious ones in particular.

elampiro: Afrodoc what makes Rooney short passes poor? You have also bought into that fallacy?
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Don't tell me you haven't noticed Rooney can't play intricate one-two passes around the opponent's box.

Don't tell me your love for Rooney has blinded you this badly??