Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 12:50pm On Jul 15, 2017 |
lepasharon: Interesting. So 4evergod now chooses to claim to be a half-british female doctor/traumatologist/paramedic in the UK? It'snothing to him, he was bbfever the 13 years old American, he was also a half Ukrainian business mogul. Changing to a British female para medic shouldn't suprise you at all. Its what he does. That's his forte. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 12:35pm On Jul 15, 2017 |
lepasharon: Lol I don't think it's him Its him. Soon he'll start opening threads about healing and wonders. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 11:03am On Jul 15, 2017 |
frank317: Ya right... Everyone can see how free ur mind has ran. U have succeeded in letting it run out of ur dear Bible.
So? And who is arguing this with u. We are still waiting for u to answer if u think there is a possibility Christ could come this month or not.
No one is asking u this... Answer the question
So while man is indirectly working for God. We can say that since God is waiting for man to pave the way for him, Christ cannot come before the end of this year. Should we quote u?
I just got it wise one! They are building the technology for everyone to see Jesus coming from the sky. So with this,do u still think he can possibly come tomorrow?
Continue ur irrelevant sermons pastor.
Ya whenever man acheived something good it's God's fault, but when the same technology results in something bad, it's man's fault. But I will not let u distract me on the main issue. So with technology being God's purpose, do u think Christ can possibly come Tomorrow?
I agree... Just answer the question with a yes or no. Let me help u... You can say yes but...., Or no but.... Stop wasting your time with 4everGod. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 11:01am On Jul 15, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: ssssshhhhhh!!!!
don't let the garri out of the cup 4everGod is back again. Na wah oo. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 8:06pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
spacetacular: Jesus said HE WOULD BE SEEN coming from the clouds right? HOW?
The writers of the Bible do not need to know anything about the invention of electricity in the future BECAUSE THAT RECORDED EVEN IS MEANT FOR THE FUTURE!
Why is this so hard to understand for you?
Carefully think then try to make meaningful comments sir. You guys say the most shallow things and it makes me wonder indeed. You are busy telling lies to explain absurdity away. Jesus said he will be seen coming from the clouds because magical thinking was their way of life then. Many of the things he said are clearly false. He told his desciples he'll return during their life time. Told the chief priest that he'll see him return from the clouds among other lies. The Jewish hippe is dead and all you are left with is to try to spin ancient mythology and fiction into today's reality by saying that Jesus will be seen on TV. You guys are very hilarious. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 7:40pm On Jul 13, 2017*. Modified: 4:05am On Aug 23, 2017 |
spacetacular: You are the one not seeing the bigger picture. The whole world simply meant THE WHOLD WORLD regardless of present or future locations or populations. It was simply documenting a FUTURE EVENT which would fit into the PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE IN THE TIME IT DOES HAPPEN.
you are so myopic to say the least. Can you deny the involvement of television in global viewing of symbolic events? Why do you think everyone is clamouring for an identity on cable television these days? It is all leading to a singular event and in time those who would witness it would make sense of it all. Quit telling lies. The people that wrote the bible never knew rhat humans will ever invent electricity. The writers of the bi Le SPECIFICALLY said that Jesus will be seen coming from the clouds. Jesus Himself said he will be seen coming from the cloud and you are here tring to lie that the clouds means TV. No wonder christians can not even agree on anything again these days because making things up as your go is the name of the game for you guys. That was how KingEbukasBlog said that Jesus ascended into heaven through a defunct portal that he invented from his anuus. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 4:27pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
spacetacular: Did you even bother imagining the way technological advancement would contribute to this?
You assume this means everyone would look up and see him in the sky? Satellite technology has linked the whole world together and if the whole world can have access to CNN or BBC etc you assume that such an event would not be immediately televised worldwide so ALL CAN SEE HIM?
Did you actually think this had to do with the shape of the earth? Gosh how do you guys even think? Rationality is lost on you. The people that wrote the bible do not even know that people lived in China and North America yet you are here trying to tell lies to yourself just to rationalize their ancient mythology and superstitions. You get work oo. So now every body will see the dead Jewish hippe's return via TV? You guys are real jokes. Keep making things up. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Dying! Currently On Life Support! by dalaman: 10:35pm On Jul 12, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: And I heard that you were his accomplice .
Shame on you bro
smh E pain am! Your brother in the lord remains a run away criminal. The shame he has brought on you guys will remain indelible. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Dying! Currently On Life Support! by dalaman: 10:28pm On Jul 12, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Nice one bro Your fraudulent bro that duped people and ran away abi? Keep hailing the criminal. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Allow Suffering?why Does He Not Prevent Bad Things From Happening? by dalaman: 8:19pm On Jul 12, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: the logic is even stupid, asking if the OP is clean, like the OP ever claimed to be the 4 omnis like they claim their imaginary friend is
True but they need to do that because *cough* eternal fire *cough* *cough*  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Allow Suffering?why Does He Not Prevent Bad Things From Happening? by dalaman: 7:56pm On Jul 12, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: I have asked Christians the question, "If an all-powerful, loving God exists why does he allow children to starve?" I usually get one of two responses. Either they tell me that God's ways are "mysterious" and that children starving are all a part of his greater plan that we won't know about until after we die. Or they smugly turn it around to say, "Why are YOU letting kids starve to death? God works through human hands." The first answer is a total cop-out and basically says they have no friggin' clue as to why he does things but he MUST have some good reason for it. It's just that we are not privy to that reason.
When they say the second answer I respond by giving the following example. Say I am a father and have a 10 yr old son. The son wants a dog for his birthday. So I buy him a puppy and say that it is his responsibility to feed it. He agrees. After awhile the son ignores the puppy and isn't feeding it. The puppy is starving. I have the power to feed the puppy. All I have to do it put food in its bowl. But I don't because feeding the puppy is my son's responsibility. So I watch the puppy starve to death. Now what do you think of me? Would you think I was a heartless monster? Or would you say it was not my fault the puppy starved since it was my son's duty to feed it? They usually don't have an answer for that one.
Christianity is vapid, full of nonsense, garbage and empty promises with NOTHING objectively logical and sensible backing it Just look at the nonsense rejoinder our resident mumu gave out as an answer. The resident mumu is trying to day that it is humans that are responsible for the evil. Supposing his child offends another person and the person comes to his house with a gun to kill his child and he has the ability to stop the person, will he allow the person to kill his son on the ground that his son did evil by offending the person or will he stop the person ? When you ask them such questions they usually begin to cry because any answers they give will show that they are better that this imaginary God that they are always trying to defend or speak on its behalf. Only an imaginary God will allow our resident mumu to ever make any case for it or tell people how it's suppose to act. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 2:15pm On Jul 12, 2017 |
JackBizzle: One of his arguments for the ressurection of Christ is that there were witnesses and they could not have been mass hallucinating when they saw him.
As if magicians don't have audiences to fool with illusions Craig's entire premise for the ressurectuion is false. He has stories and then tries to say that the story is a fact. There is no such thing. We don't know if there were witnesses, we only have a story that say there were witnesses. The autheticity of the story is what we need to know and determine not the rigmarole and lies Craig loves spewing always. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 10:11am On Jul 12, 2017 |
spacetacular: Again you are right based on your perception. Your perception does not permit sensible communication. How can a communication be sensible when you are supporting something that can not be precived by the senses?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 10:05am On Jul 12, 2017 |
spacetacular: Yes you are right but that is you are right within your fleshly perception. You can argue all day if you wish but you will always be right because that is what you perceive and I wouldn't blame you for that. I would simply blame your handicap.
Not all perceptions are evidence based and I already showed this to Jack.
Anyone who is of a higher scope of perception beyond the physical shouldn't blame you and neither should you blame them for your limitation.
They cannot communicate sensibly with you due to your handicap. You alone can help yourself. You are making claims that aren't based on evidence or logic and you are talking about sensible communication? The spiritual is anchored on the illogic because anything can be asserted when it comes to the spritual. |
Music/Radio › Re: Ten Biggest Nigerian Songs Of All Time by dalaman: 9:51am On Jul 12, 2017 |
What is Woju doing on that lis? That song has no business doing on that list. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 9:48am On Jul 12, 2017 |
spacetacular: Oh yes you are right! God is abstract to those who try to physically look for his evidence yet would not believe any evidence they already see.
To the fleshly God can never be an external reality. But to the spiritual he is as real as I kiss my daughter goodnight every night.
You can term God as abstract if you wish especially since that fits your perception of him. The spiritual is not based on logic. Anything can be asserted in the world of the spritual since it is a world of empty assertions that is never based on any verifiable evidence. Like I can say I went to London yesterday and saw the Nigerian president spiritually, we connected spiritually and had a good time after which I realized that his condition needs spritual solution that only me can provide. No body can counter that since the assertion was never made on logic or evidence. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 9:36am On Jul 12, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: There is no exception here . The premise only focuses on things that came into existence
There is a big difference between Whatever begins to exist has cause and Everything has cause . Assuming I had said 'everything has a cause' and made the creator an exception then it becomes special pleading
I gave examples of other things that are uncreated Eg abstract objects . Your God is an abstract object . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 7:47am On Jul 12, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: I once challenged Kingebukasblog to tell us those "evidence" that he claims Craig has and he went on a rant, I rebutted his rants and he replied later only for me to realise his post is hidden and he's been banned, I couldn't see the post
maybe he can rephrase the post and repost it LOL! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 7:36am On Jul 12, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Leave these ignorant atheists .
Most arguments for God's existence were created by theists . The cosmological argument , teleological argument , ontological and moral arguments were all arguments for God's existence in theism .
Craig also talks about evidence for the resurrection of Christ . He can also teach Christian philosophy in his podcasts on youtube channel . Craig only LIES about the evidence for the resurrection of Christ. There is no such evidence any where. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The Bible Prophesy A One-world Govt And A One-world Currency In The Endtime by dalaman: 10:43pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
malvisguy212: you are very good In repeating questions.....we know you say No...now, back up your claim. Back up my claim with something that doesn't exist? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is A False Belief, Evil And Dogmatic . Why Is It Being Propagated ? by dalaman: 4:43pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
bennyann: So what do you have to say about this thread cos it seems it accuses you also? This thread is THRASH because it is completely fallacious. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Winning Atheists: The Place Of Personal Character by dalaman: 4:38pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
bennyann: You mean the op is trash? And where did you get the 'never' from? Its complete thrash because there is no evidence whatsoever that shows that christians are better human beings when it comes to.morality than non-Christians. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Winning Atheists: The Place Of Personal Character by dalaman: 4:10pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Complete thrash. Christians throughout history have NEVER held a better or higher moral standing that any other group of people. Never! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The Bible Prophesy A One-world Govt And A One-world Currency In The Endtime by dalaman: 3:46pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: It doesn't work like that. The onus is on you to tell us why you say "it doesn't." Because it simply doesn't. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The Bible Prophesy A One-world Govt And A One-world Currency In The Endtime by dalaman: 2:54pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: Are you a bible student?  It is not. If you disagree then show me. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The Bible Prophesy A One-world Govt And A One-world Currency In The Endtime by dalaman: 6:55pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
No it doesn't. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Doctors And Science Students (science Vs Religion) by dalaman: 1:36pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
felixomor: Hehehe Are you pained?  Why should I be pained? Just laughing at you and your ways. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Doctors And Science Students (science Vs Religion) by dalaman: 1:17pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
felixomor: Honestly. You know a 10 years old that owns are car, yet you are laughing at others. How the irony escapes you is still a mystery to me. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Doctors And Science Students (science Vs Religion) by dalaman: 12:35pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
HardMirror: the way Christians claim God answers prayers, one wld expect at least one amputee being restored even just once in 20years. yet every day thousands of people thank God for miracles. one shld really be curious. KingEbukasblog is telling me that atheist are magically casting out evil spirits in China. Can you imagine that? These guys are crazy  . Evil spirits eh?  . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Doctors And Science Students (science Vs Religion) by dalaman: 12:33pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Miracles can be performed by both theists and atheists . Atheists in witchcraft are casting spells and muttering incantations to the elements of nature for miracles to happen . Atheists in han folk religion in China are magically casting out evil spirits through exorcism. And you are here trying to be skeptical about miracles like the deists?
Nairaland atheists are bad comedians . Lies. Claims are not evidence. I put it to you that all your claims are empty and lies. Come and demonstrate a clear cut miracle . I'll bring an amputee. If christianity is true you should be able to do that because Jesus promised you the ability to do greater things than him. We are told he was a great magician and.miracle worker. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Doctors And Science Students (science Vs Religion) by dalaman: 10:17am On Jul 07, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: In the same olodo thread you opened questioning miracles and instigating a conflict between science and religion , you still want the limb of an amputee to be restored ? You also questioned the resurrection of Christ claiming that it contravenes science insinuating that it should regarded as a myth , yet you desire what you are against , a miracle ?
Ladies and gentlemen , the devil must be embarrassed by the vacuity shown by modern atheists. The reasoning is just egregious! That is because clear cut miracles never happen. Just prove that miraxles are real by heling and amputee and restoring his/her amputated limbs back then we will believe. You can't force people to believe your mythology that lack evidence. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Doctors And Science Students (science Vs Religion) by dalaman: 9:21pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
Religionists love to ride on the coat tails of science if they can make it seem like it supports their claim, tgey claim that there is no difference btw the two(which is a very big lie) but they slander science at every opportunity when it conflicts with their magic story, even as they benefit from the fruits of science such as a computer world, longer lives, air travel, cars, cell phones, media, antibiotics and good health care delivery in general, a growing wonderous understanding of our universe as well as the microscopic world, DNA, etc. When Newton couldn't figure out how the planetary orbits could remain stable, he quit looking for natural explanations and concluded that God must be intervening to put them back on track. He was wrong because he let faith cloud his thinking.
But people believe this things because their good religions told them so, and they've learned not to question "God" (or his self-proclaimed earthly representatives.)
Religious folks have just gotten used to not having their pet superstitions questioned(Most get angry when you question their pet superstitions). They like to feel like it's ennobling to believe in their version of magical thinking. I feel pretty equal about all superstitions--Scientology, Astrology, psychics, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism all mythologies, all belief in the paranormal, supernatural, and other pseudoscientific beliefs. They just don't hold up under testing at all and I'm tired of fooling myself and wonder why people do that. I'd rather not know something than believe a lie, and as far as the evidence goes, all belief in invisible beings is equally delusional. There is no more evidence for Thor than Jesus-God or any other God.
There is not 2 sides to "the debate." There is one truth and so far science is the best path for illuminating the truth that is the same for everyone no matter what they believe. Same is NOT the same for religion.
On the flip side, there are millions of faiths humans have always invented Gods or other invisible entities and supernatural explanations to explain that which they don't understand. But then science comes along and tells them to stop sacrificing virginsto appease the Gods, there are no weather Gods that need pleasing, and we can do better by using irrigation and planting weather resistant crops.
You picked one version of a magical story to believe over all the other possibilities because somehow you thought it was "the truth" but doesn't every believer think that? Certainly, no matter what is true, the vast majority of people are confused or mistaken or just wrong. Everyone is going to hell according to Somebody's religion.
Move forward to the early 21st century and the advances in science help explain what was once seen as supernatural (volcanoes, earthquakes, biology, physics, the universe, diseases etc). It is my belief the modern day religious apologists see the advances in science as influencing people to abandon their religious beliefs and worship the God of "science". Thus, the apologists stepping into the fray are faced either with trying to discount science or elevate religious belief to an equal of science.
At least that is what I see from the post on this topic and in most places.
If that understanding is correct then the modern day Christian apologist is doomed. Religion is not science and science is not religion. Science is based on observation and theories based on those observations. One can argue that is also what religious apologists attempt to do but the key difference is creating an experiment which will substantiate the theory. To the best of my knowledge, there is no chant, ritual, incantation, prayer, series of gestures, etc. which will consistently produce an entity which can be seen and measured and identified as "God". Religionis NOT science and science is NOT religion. |