Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:43pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
randomperson: Abi na... Like the one where Jesus said he will come back within the lifetime of the people he was speaking to... Those people have been dead for over a thousand and the guy never come back... Christians will not see that one ooh Not only that one them plenty like water. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:25pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
randomperson: Yes... Prophecies like "knowledge will increase". I mean, WTF!! Did the bible expect knowledge to reduce? The bible that is filled with so many false and unfilled phrophecies. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:19pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: Of course, the Bible is the grand master of prophecies nah. Certified and confirmed. Bestseller 2016 till you die. Grand Master of fake, false and unfulfilled prophecies abi? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:43pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: Hehehe. Nearly doesnt kill a bird.
Besides, should I show you my own research on Christianity and the bestselling bible?
So keep that bubble silent. U r only trying anticipate a fake prophecy. Like the many failed prophecies inside the bible abi? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:38pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: Oh...ok, they are already the largest? They will soon be the largest. Most studies have shown that Islam will be the largest religion in the world in a few decades to come. Allah's statement is coming to pass right before our own eyes. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:33pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: Hehehe. Abeg how many predictions have they made in the past that came to pass?
Remind me please. I thought you said fastest-growing religion your foot. Allah clearly said in the Koran that Islam will be the largest religion in the world some day. It is already happening. The words of Allah are true and he remains the only true God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:30pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: @ Dalaman
Diagoras was the first man ever known in History anywhere to declare there are no gods . And that is what atheism is - conscious explicit rejection of the existence of deists .
The absence or lack of belief or apathy towards deities is NOT atheism. He was the first Greek man in recorded history to deny the existence of the Greek Gods. During their time denying the Gods was a capital offence. Most people could not write and so most people could not accurately record history. The Greeks were not the only people that libed and had Gods. I told you that some Indians were also atheist and denied the existence of the Indian God during the Vedic period according to the link I provided in the other thread. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:27pm On Dec 18, 2016*. Modified: 7:46pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: I repeat atheists REJECT evidences that God exists and their reasons for the rejection are ludicrous , puerile and untenable . What are the evidence that a living being exist? That thing. What are the evidence that you as a living being exist ? You. What are the evidence that I exist? Me of course. What are the evidence that a living God exist that wants people to know that he exist? People like you will start pointing to trees, animals, rivers etc as evidence of a living God that wants people to know about his existence. You are a jokers. Your Gods are man made ideas that is why you can not point to them directly independent of human input. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:23pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: Fastest growing my foot. Wake me up when ur vision 50 years come true.
Maybe I need to show you history of people who predicted the end of the bible, even centuries ago.
Where are they today? Abeg save me the rant. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and is expected to outstrip Christianity by the end of the century. The number of Muslims will grow more than twice as fast as the world's population from now until 2050, the Pew Research Center has said. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/islam-fastest-growing-religion-overtake-6986333 The predictions of Allah that Islam will take over the world is true. Cry as much as you want but the Koran remains the true revealed word of the creator of the universe. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:19pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Its a known fact even mentioned here on Nairaland
https://www.nairaland.com/3241407/first-atheist Diagoras was the first Greek person that openly rejected the Greek Gods and their religious rights. He wasn't the first atheist. Are Greeks the only people in the world or were they then only people that had Gods? Even socrates before him was accused of rejecting the Gods by Meletus. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:15pm On Dec 18, 2016*. Modified: 8:04am On Dec 19, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Strawman .
Did I in anyway suggest that the population determines the truth ? Islam is another religious concept of the same God . The God of the bible is NOT the same God as the Allah of the Koran. Allah has no son , he is not 3 in one and according to him Jesus was not crucified for any body's sins. Very diffrent God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:13pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Why was he then called the first atheist in history  The history book that calls him the first atheist can be found where? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:13pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Its called Apatheism not atheism . Apatheism is being indifferent about gods .
Diagoras was called the first atheist in history you liar Called the first atheist in history according to who? Who named him the first atheist? Show me the historical source that said he is the first atheist. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:11pm On Dec 18, 2016*. Modified: 8:03am On Dec 19, 2016 |
felixomor: And many more billions have studied and veirfied the bestselling Bible as God's word. By the way Allah also simply means "God" in Arabic. Arab Christians use it too.
So Sure, the bible is the word of a false God called Yahweh. A creation of the ancient tribal Jews. The Koran is the true word of the creator of the universe. Go and read it. Allah the true God said there is no God but him and Mohammed is his last messenger. Go read his book it's all inside. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and it will pass christianity in about 50 years to come. A prediction that Allah made inside his book. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:08pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: Usual tactic. Screaming liar without showing proof.  I have already showed him proof, yet he is still here repeating the same lie. They were atheist during the Vedic period in India ancient India long before Diagoras. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:06pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Nature is one of the numerous evidences God exists . Atheists are the ones denying this . And their reasons for refusing to accept this are ludicrous , puerile and untenable.
Have you seen the arguments against the existence of God by the first band of Greek atheists ? The foundation of atheism is weak , no wonder its experiencing massive decline worldwide .
Christianity started 500 years later and has over 2 billion adherents and is expected to hit over 3 billion in 34 years time . Christianity started and was formed by men. Islam was also stared and formed by men, it is expected to pass christianity in the future, it is the fastest growing religion. That means Allah is the only true God and the Koran is real. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:03pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: "Sure"?  Is Allah not God? According to about 2 billion muslims he is. Over a billion Hindus say that Brahma is God so sure. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:02pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Atheism is a man made idea started by Diagoras of Melos  Will you stop repeating this lie. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:59pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: In the form of Jesus and in different other forms to billions of people throughout human history. Sure, other forms like Allah, Brahma etc with diffrent and conflicting messages abi? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:50pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: No need. He already has. In the form of Allah, Brahma, Yahweh, Jesus, Ifa etc abi? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist President Of Mexico Who Killed 4000 Priests In Just 4 Years! by dalaman: 5:17pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Those guys fought wars against the enemies of Israel . The bible does not condemn wars . "Thou shall not kill" means premeditated killing or murder . Though war is bad , it is inevitable and exigent in some circumstances . God commanded those guys to order Israel to make war against enemies and oppressors . Even the judges were deliverers of Israel from the hands of their enemies - Moses , Joshua , Samson .
"Follow peace with all men" does not mean you should be oppressed or subjugated . That's why Christians can join the armed forces . Join which armed forces when Jesus told christians to be pacifist to the extent that they are to turn the other check when slapped. As for the OT Moses is no different from Shekau, Hitler, Moa, Osama bin Laden or the leader of Isis. All are terrorist. What do they Canaanites do in the bibe? Watauga was their offence? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist President Of Mexico Who Killed 4000 Priests In Just 4 Years! by dalaman: 5:13pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: Hmmm.
No suprises tho. When some people say morality is subjective. You can only but run away from them. How is morality subjective? Care to show us how? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:12pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:08pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: Fact remains, even if God appears today in any form,
There would still be atheists. Period. Let whatever Gof or Gods appear first then we can make that conclusion. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:03pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
PDBonline: 1. God doesn't need the dream state to appear to you.
Dreams, from God however can be verified. I once dreamt seeing a man saying he would love his wife to come back to him but she is the one unwilling to return. In the dream, I knew the man was the father of someone I just know from a distance but I verified the content of the dream. She told me the parents were separated and the mum is truly the one refusing to come back.
2. "WILL HAVE TO BE independently verified by scientists" is assuming the omnipotence of scientists. Have you heard of the scientific breakthrough where Spirits are spotted- like a spirit detector? In the bible we were told God used to address the people through public speech. Something like that will convince the world. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 4:30pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: Even if God becomes like sea for you to see, there would still be atheists.
I hope you know. And I know you would be one of them. That time you will then request that He should become like mountain.
Atheism has never been about proof. Arguing from false assumptions. Did any God appear to him and he rejected? Why is it that it is only when it comes to religion that you guys claim evidence does not matter? Or is it because you have it at the back of your minds that your God is imaginary? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Re: Do Muslims Love The Prophet More Than God? by dalaman: 3:25pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
Muslims love the prophet more than God. An American can insult God in the United states and nothing will happen but when such American insults Mohammed some muslims will start demostrating and burning places. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 3:22pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
PDBonline: We pay attention and give time to everything we consider important. God expects that knowing Him personally should be even more important to you and He sends people to you in different ways to let you know this. All you need to do is to ask Him to reveal Himself if He is real and to actively seek evidence for His existence not waiting for someone else do that for you. Why send people to someone that to know about your existence? Why not do it your self and among the people who are we to believe? Are we to believe the pastor, the imams or the Indian gurus for example ? All of them claim to speak for God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist President Of Mexico Who Killed 4000 Priests In Just 4 Years! by dalaman: 3:13pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Brother 4kings , the post addresses the wickedness of atheists . The same way atheists open threads condemning the Inquisition ( I condemn it too though ) .
But you see bro , the difference between atheism and Christianity is that doctrine in Christianity deprecates moral turpitude unlike atheism . That's why Christians can condemn the Inquisition because its against the teachings of Christ . But what reason do atheists have to condemn it?
Its inhuman to kill people because of their beliefs ? The communists did worse - they killed religious people (believers in God) because of their beliefs . The atheists justified their wickedness with this - they believed man , not God determines what is right or wrong .
So to that Mexican president who carried out this pogrom against the Priests , he is doing the right thing . Do you see how dangerous atheism is ? You as an atheist decides what is right or wrong - its arbitrary most times . Christians do not condemn all the genocides carried out inside the bible. Why condemning the inquisition but refuse to condemn the actions of Moses, Josuah etc? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Moses, Mohammed, Isis, Shekau: Stop The Hypocrisy Now!!! by dalaman: 12:07pm On Dec 18, 2016*. Modified: 12:02am On Dec 10, 2017 |
randomperson: Christians can lie ehn... Was Moses not a prophet of God?? Didn't god instruct him to do those things? Is it not the same god you are serving? Or has he changed According to the bible Moses is God's best friend and the greatest prophet. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 10:40am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: Why are you just plain dumb? She was employed as an atheist to salon and only just found her faith. Joan walsh was and is an atheist. [/b]You do not even do any research but just type.
I do a lot more detailed research then you can ever imagine.
#saynotolyingforatheism.
Lying for atheism is obviously not a crime. [b]You mentioned before that you grew up in a relatively religious household. Is religion at all a part of your life now? Are you spiritual? I believe in God, I definitely believe in God. I always have, I’ve never had a doubt. That’s weird, right? I think it’s psychological; that’s the way my mind and psyche formed. Se said she believe in God and always have. You say she's an atheist because she doesn't believe in your own idea of God. So deist are atheist? Why must you keep lying? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Moses, Mohammed, Isis, Shekau: Stop The Hypocrisy Now!!! by dalaman: 10:07am On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: No atheist makes any sense . So he does not even need to read the post to draw up such logical conclusion .
The Israelites fought wars against enemies who subjugated them . They were led by judges such as Moses , Samson etc . I strongly detest ignorant and specious arguments .
I implore you guys to pick a bible and read through and not creating topics to ridicule your own misconception - its becoming embarrassing What did the Canaanites do to the Israelites? |