Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:44am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: Chauncey Devega is a contributing writer to salon and he is an atheist
I pity you sometimes when you make shallow arguments and lie anyhow
Lily Burana Just got Saved and restored to her faith as christian. She was an Atheist originally with salon
Read her write up and the caption and the bottom when you are done
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-burana-christian-progressive-20160501-story.html
Caption on the bottom
Lily Burana is a novelist and memoirist. She is at work on a book about her journey back to faith
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You have to understand: I work, socialize and post in circles where the only Sunday sacrament is brunch. I move mostly in the world of “nones,” otherwise known as the “spiritual-but-not-religious. “ Many of them don’t look kindly on Christians; they don't even think they know any.
So I sometimes feel I’m on the wrong side of history, and that makes me self-conscious about opening conversations about faith. But sharing posts, memes and tweets makes me feel like I might be able to, at the very least, let the nones know that Christianity isn't what they may think it is. She still works for Salon.com and is a christian. How does that square with the lie that you must be an atheist to work for salon. Joan Walsh wasn't an atheist when she was the editor in chief. Lily Burana is a christian as well so where did you get that you must be an atheist to work there? Did you just make it up the way yOu made the ichthyologists stuff up? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:22am On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: I have since left the guy, he has no honor.
He says something, when u tell him to provide backup, he calls u liar. When u provide ur own backup, he mentions u without addressing what u have presented. And still claim he is making a point.
The guy made claims on koran, bacteria, marriage, God on this thread without a single backup.
Then he keeps screaming liar, liar.
I doubt his mental capacity as of now. Honestly. What is this one saying? How did you jump from God to bacteria? Has a bacteria ever told you anything? What about God. Do you communicate with any God? Where did the Koran claim that Jesus is the son of God or support his resurrection? The Koran clearly states that Jesus is not the son of God and he wasn't crucified. Why do you keep bringing that debunked issue up? As for marriage it's human beings that thought themselves how to.marry each other based on different traditions. That is why there are different types of marriages and different types of marriage contract ranging from monogamy, to polygamy to, polyandry to gay marriage. A question for you. How did marriage amonghumans come about? Pls answer it As for God where is the God that exist without human input? Point to it already. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:13am On Dec 18, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:05am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: Dalaman Glenn Greenwald who writes for salon is an ANTI-THEIST
Mary Elizabeth Williams who works for salon is an atheist
Amanda Marcotte who works for salon is an atheist
Heather Digby Parton who works for salon is an atheist
Scott Timberg who works for salon is an atheist
Michele Filgate who works for salon is an atheist
David Daley who is now the chief editor in salon is an atheist
Should i continue?
www.salon.com is known everywhere as an Atheist media
Can you deny it? LILY BURANA writes for Salon.com and she's a christian. Here is he work on the site. http://www.salon.com/2016/11/19/jesus-wept-how-can-you-call-yourself-a-christian-if-you-voted-for-donald-trump/So you have been caught lying again. You said a person must be an athiests to work on the site. I've shown you two people that are not atheist that work there. Go and dash your pastor money and stop digging a hole for your self. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:43am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: I suppose you do not know who an agnostic deist is and that the only difference between an atheist and an agnostic deist is on the issue of creation. You really are not so bright are you?
Its either you are an atheist or you have an atheistic leaning before you can work for www.salon.com
Since she said she believed in God did you not read the extract i provided free of charge from the same interview? Does that sound to you like someone who is a Christian despite "believing" in God?
She believes in the God idea but not the God of Religion. You really need to wake up.
Why not showw me other writers who are Christian and working for salon. Can you? You said before a person works for Salon.com the person must be an atheist. Where did you get that from? Did you just make it up the way you made the ichthyologists stuff up? Yes you did. Go to church and dash your pastor and his wife mobey and stop digging a hole for your self here. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:40am On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Mister man even Christians say that God is not a man . Or God does not think like men .
Numbers 23:19 19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
So yes , God does not resemble man in form or in mind
Deists also believe that God can interact with men and have a relationship with Him and even believe God can be worshiped .
So show me what kind of signature that God would leave in nature and stop this pathetic attempt to evade the question Read the bible and you have God acting jut like a man. He gets angry, he's jealous, he throws anger tantrums, he fights with men and kills them, he boast about killing men etc he is very emotional like a.man and does things that men do. He even wears clothing like men. So what exactly is the point that God is not a man when he acts like.men in almost every page of the bible. A God that communicates with humans as claimed does that because he wants them to know him and have a relationship with him. The bible talks about believers having signs so that unbelievers will see and believe. Why not just have those signs in nature. We have different Gods laying claim to creation. Does any of them want us to really know who truly created? We have muslims telling us that Allah created and as such we have his name written on some mountains, rocks, plants, animal body etc If you want to use nature as evidence of God then it will be senselessif you don't pointout God's signature in a nature. Remember there are different Gods all claiming to have created. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:32am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE
Joan Walsh Is not a Christian. She is an Agnostic Deist and has left Salon since 2015 because they frustrated her out. She has slammed her old newspaper repeatedly for that. Since she was not in favor of much of how they wrote anything they frustrated her out and she is now with THE NATION MAGAZINE,
Before you can work for Salon you need to have an atheistic leaning.
Link
http://www.salon.com/2015/03/19/ive_had_a_really_fun_life_joan_walsh_opens_up_on_her_childhood_career_and_online_critics/
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Do you believe in the afterlife? Does your spirituality extend to that?
I think it’s more I-don’t-know. I can’t see it all ending completely; I think I am one of those people who believes in Something Else, but I don’t know what it is— a kind of Buddhist, we-are-all-united kind of oneness that we will rejoin or become conscious of that we don’t have. I sound like a nut! You’re making me sound like a nut!
As you make decisions, do you think about God?
I think as I’ve gotten older I definitely still pray but I don’t think of God as directing me in a particular direction. I don’t see it that way. I think prayer is very good for self-calming and as a way of organizing your thinking about what you want. I don’t know that I think it actually creates an outcome — not to get too touchy-feely about it — but just in case… I’m a little bit of a just-in-case prayer.
Stop lying for Atheism
cc kingebukasblog You lied and said for a person to work in salon the person must be an atheist. Joan Walsh isn't an atheist. From the link you dropped she said she believes in God and always will. " I believe in God, I definitely believe in God. I always have, I’ve never had a doubt. That’s weird, right? I think it’s psychological; that’s the way my mind and psyche formed" Where is it stated that before you work in salon.com you must be an atheis? Did you just make it up as usual? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 2:33am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: Dalaman you are a deceiver and a fraud who uses biased Atheist news sites to refute stories that add credence to the Jonah story. Keep up with your lies and deception You've been running from pillar to post, including posting satirical post all because you want to give credence to mythology and fiction. You still haven't shown me the ichthyologists that told you all.the lies you spewed here earlier. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 2:28am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: www.salon.com was founded by David Talbot to promote his atheistic views same way Seun opened Nairaland to give his atheistic views a voice. Before you can work in salon.com you must be an atheist. All their writers are atheists.
This is why the Militant atheist killings of 2015 in Calgary was given biased reporting and tagged as the new Religious scapegoat against atheism on his website even when CNN gave all the facts.
I will be giving that story on a thread soon.
The writer of that Whale swallowing story Ben Shattuck is also an atheist.
If you opened a company for a purpose as the CEO would you let the purpose be diverted? This is why much of their patronage and fan base is from Reddit.
I provide facts and not fabrications. Your man and website is compromised. Joan Walsh the editor in chief is a christian. So another lie from.you that before you work there you smust be an atheist. The story about the guy swallowed by a whale is a lie. Investigation More recently the facts have been carefully investigated by historian Edward Davis who pointed out many inconsistencies. The ship in the story is The Star of the East; a British ship by the same name existed and sailed during the time in which the incident allegedly occurred and could have been near the Falklands at the right time, but the real "Star of the East" was not a whaling vessel and its crew list did not include a "James Bartley".[1] Moreover, Mrs. John Killam, the wife of the Captain, wrote a letter stating that "there is not one word of truth in the whale story. I was with my husband all the years he was in the Star of the East. There was never a man lost overboard while my husband was in her. The sailor has told a great sea yarn." Davis suggested that the story may have been inspired by the "Gorleston whale", a 30-foot rorqual killed near Great Yarmouth shortly before in June 1891 that generated a lot of publicity. While the veracity of the story is in question, it is physically possible for a sperm whale to swallow a human whole, as they have been known to swallow giant squid whole.[8][9 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bartley |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 2:22am On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Xenophanes in his criticism of anthropomorphism said that God does not resemble humans in form or in mind . Signature is a way of showing ownership for humans . God is a not a human , so why would God who is not human leave a signature in Nature ?
Please leave me transfixed with your response . That is his deistic idea of God that just created and left. We are talking about the Gd of theism specifically christianity since that is the God you guys are defending. Let's just make it clear. I wonder why you keep defending the deistic concept of God when you are NOT a deist. It sparks of dishonesty. The christian God wants people to know him and be in a relationship with him so having his signature in nature is another way for people to get to know him. You are NOT a deist so stop dishonestly using their God concept to defend yours that has nothing in common with theirs. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 2:06am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: ironically he has shown me repeatedly and spoken repeatedly and it matched scripture. Shown you what? Spoken to you? Describe his voice to us. How does it sound? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 1:48am On Dec 18, 2016*. Modified: 3:02am On Dec 18, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:56pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
MrMontella: i have this feeling the worship of yahweh started with the observance of volcanic mountains...
Maybe mount sinai was volcanic or so  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:55pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: You needed credibility i am giving them to you. So read up since you refused to research but would rather shout liar liar everywhere You clearly do not know what you are posting that's why I said you should go and sleep. What am I to do with the spin of the Christian apologist you are spamming the thread with? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:50pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Randomperson and dalaman i hope you are both reading
An interesting sidepoint is that Jonah says:
"Weeds were wrapped about my head at the roots of the mountains." (2:5)
Geologist Harold L. Levin wrote:
"Eighteenth-century scientists had little knowledge of the topography of the ocean floors. They lived at a time when depth measurements were made by letting down a lead weight on the end of a rope. Not only was this method time consuming, but in the open ocean it was virtually impossible to prevent error from lateral drifting of the weight, or the ship, or both. As a result of these problems, only a limited number of soundings were made except in bays and offshore areas where such information was vital for safe navigation. Oceanographers interpreted the few measurements available as indicating that the ocean floors were monotonous flat plains. With the advent of continuous topographic profiles from echo-sounding devices, it was shown that the ocean floors are as irregular as the surface of the continents. Beneath the waves lay canyons deeper than the Grand Canyon, and mountain systems more magnificent than the Rockies." (Levin 1981 p. 320
I don't imagine that Jonah saw the "roots of the mountains" in the Mediterranean Sea by peeking out of the mouth of the fish. Perhaps he guessed; perhaps he was "inspired". At any rate he got it right. Brother go and sleep na wetin? Hiya! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:42pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Alright then .
But it still does not automatically validate their story .
Jonah is also historical figure and Nineveh is a real city which is close to Mosul in modern-day northern Iraq. I am not even talking about the story of Jonah. Their story about Bartley is well detailed and they gave cogent reasons as to why it is fictitious. You can read it for yourself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:25pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Plus the story you claim salon has refuted has been authenticated by another which is actually a Naval source. So who is lying? Brother go and sleep it's late. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:24pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Can you provide proof for this claim?
It still does not make the story untrue , its still a personal opinion . Her name is Joan Walsh. She is a popular on air personality in the USA.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:13pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
randomperson: just saw it, boss... I don't know why he's doing this, didn't the holy spirit tell him that it was satire??  . From fiction to satire. Pls he should go and sleep. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:12pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:08pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
randomperson: how many hours was he swallowed for and even within that short time, he needed treatment... very incongruous with Jonah's story and respond to my earlier comment where the story of James Bartley was proven to be a fiction Visit the link and see for yourself. The piece is a satirical one. It's just fiction. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:07pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Salon.com is just like naij . There are stories naij would post on their site but can't be seen in top news site like Punch , Vanguard , ThisDay
The site is just for personal essays by employed workers that can elicit reactions from people that's all . Its all about the opprobrium of generally accepted facts or beliefs . What is naij? Salon.com is a very credible news website. The editor appears on CNN, Fox news, MSNBC and other major news outlet regularly. The have their own journalist that source for original content. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:01pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Chicago, IL – An Arkansas man is alive after being swallowed by a whale on Saturday while visiting the Shedd Aquarium. Jonah Anderson, 24, is being treated for mild dehydration at Chicago’s Mercy Medical Center after being regurgitated early this morning.
The incident happened while viewing the Beluga Whale exhibit at Shedd. Witnesses say the whale, Puiji, came out of the pool, grabbed Anderson, and proceeded to swallow him whole. Anderson remained unharmed inside the whale until this morning when he was spit back onto the viewing platform.
“This is the first time any of our whales have exhibited aggressive behavior,” Shedd’s vice president of communications Andrea Smalec tells us. “We frequently allow special guest to interact with the whales, our staff even occasionally swim with the whales. This is completely unexpected.”
Animal trainers tried unsuccessfully to extract Anderson from the whale during the three days. Anderson was able to communicate with outsiders through text message during the stay. Friends and family tell us that Anderson remained positive and relaxed during the time.
“He seemed really upbeat,” Jonah’s girlfriend Mary, who was with him on the trip, tells us. “Of course this is not the first time something like this has happened. We were on a boat tour outside San Francisco last year when a whale snatched him from the side. That one scared him a bit, this time it all seemed routine. Not sure why this keeps happening.”
Doctors expect to release Anderson from the hospital later today. He hopes to return to Arkansas to visit his cousin Daniel who is in critical condition following a fall into the lion exhibit at the Little Rock Zoo. Stop spamming the thread with satirical stories. It is boldly written there that the story is satire. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:01pm On Dec 17, 2016*. Modified: 2:53am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: The funny thing about you guys is that you are so limited in thinking yet you claim being intelligent.
http://www.rockcitytimes.com/local-man-alive-swallowed-whale-shedd-aquarium/
Thats another...More recent! Damogul please go and sleep I beg you. Didn't you see that this was under satire? Didn't you see the satire as the heading on the link. What is wrong with you my brother? From.fiction to satire. Please go and sleep it's past your bed time. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:56pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:54pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: He is using a blog to dispute truth. Something that is registered with the British Admiralty and found on the headstone of the sailor. Which blog? Salon.com isn't a blog but a very credible new outlet in the USA. You have been caught spreading fiction. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:46pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Dude , you didnt ask if the site is credible or not .
It is a blog so the author can write anything he feels .
The same way I can declare the story true on my blog Salon is a blog? Please look up salon.com. it is a very credible news site just like thisday or punch newspaper in Nigeria. I repeat salon is a very credible news outlet in the USA. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:42pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:37pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: The records of the British Admiralty testify that James Bartley, an apprentice seaman on a whaler, was swallowed by a whale in February, 1891, some two hundred miles east of the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic. He survived the ordeal He survived it but was he whole? He was blind with bleached skin as a result of the encounter. If he was left to stay there for a day he would have died. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:35pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:33pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: cc seun when a nairalander calls one a liar without proof and cannot show how and when such a one lied then that is false info. You can ban me for calling him an irrational idiot since he repeatedly called me a liar without proof. The choice is yours. You've failed to show the ichthyologists that told.you the things you stated isn't that lying? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:32pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: Which scriptures was it talking about? Even muslims know this. You can only pretend for a short time. I don't know. It's can't be the bible. Because the Koran says it is corrupted. |