Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:25pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Then you are a bonafide idiot if after all this i have shown you, you still wish to tag me a liar then shame on you for being the irrational empty head you truly are. What did you show me? You showed me a story of how a.person that was swallowed by a whale was rescued later on when the digestive juices of the whale had already started acting on him we while he wasn't dead which was contrary to everything you wrote. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:22pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: That research is for you to do. I guess you must be the one thats stark raving mad. You said you did your own research so provide it. I have given you a little snippet that i actually did mine. So show me a snippet of yours. You just made things up by lying. You stated things that are not true. Show me the Ichthyologists that told you the nonsense you wrote. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:17pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Dalaman is your liar tag on me still true? Its still very true. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:10pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Okay, so can toothed whales swallow prey whole? They do sometimes swallow prey whole, so you could fit down their esophagus. Sperm whales sometimes swallow squid whole, so it could definitely manage a human. In fact, there’s a story of a sailor being swallowed by a sperm whale off the Falkland Islands in the early 1900s. The story says that aftter sailors chased a sperm whale for several hours, the whale caused a few men to be pitched in to the ocean. Then, well, this happened:
The whale was dead, and in a few hours the great body was lying by the ship’s side, and the men ere busy with axes and spades cutting through the flesh to secure the fat. They worked all day and part of the night. They resumed operations the next forenoon, and were soon down to the stomach, which was to be hoisted to the deck. The workmen were startled while labouring to clear it and to fasten the chain about it to discover something doubled up in it that gave spasmodic signs of life. The vast pouch was hoisted to the deck and cut open, and inside was found the missing sailor, doubled up and unconscious. He was laid out on the deck and treated to a bath of sea-water, which soon revived him, but his mind was not clear, and he was placed in the captain’s quarters, where he remained to weeks a raving lunatic. He was carefully treated by the captain and officers of the ship, and he finally began to get possession of his senses. At the end of the third week he had finally recovered from the shock, and resumed his duties.
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Give the gift of Smithsonian magazine for only $12! http:///1cGUiGv Follow us: @SmithsonianMag on Twitter Are you crazy? This is what you said. damogul: Ichthyologists have shown that whales have enough air in them to keep living things alive for extended periods expecially since they do not breathe through water and evidence has shown whales swallowing fish bigger than man such as great white sharks and smaller whales. They also said the digestive enzymes in a whale only kick in when that which was swallowed is dead but as long as its alive then digestion cannot commence.[/b] I asked you to show me which Ichthyologiststold yu that and you went of to bring some story that happened in 1900? What's wrong with you. Which ichthyologiststold you the nonsense you spewed? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:37pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul:
Ichthyologists have shown that whales have enough air in them to keep living things alive for extended periods expecially since they do not breathe through water and evidence has shown whales swallowing fish bigger than man such as great white sharks and smaller whales. They also said the digestive enzymes in a whale only kick in when that which was swallowed is dead but as long as its alive then digestion cannot commence. Which ichthyologists told you this? SHOW ME. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:34pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: If i say you are a dundee you will say i am lying again.
Can a shark live outside water? I Whales do not breathe under water as they breathe in air and exhale via their blowhole. You just claimed i said a shark can live for extended periods in the belly of a whale when sharks cannot survive outside water. Can you show me where i made this statement or are you also have issues with comprehension?
I do not have to show you anything simply because you said you researched and found out i lied. So show me this your research which proves i lied. I am trying to teach you something here. I dI'd a Google search and found nothing to support anything that you said. Meaning you made it up. If it's true then just show me where you got it from. Why is that such a difficult thing to do? I smell liessssss. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:30pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
LiberaDeus: These christians are pathetic liars.
Their consciences are so seared. How can they actually claim they have a fear of god and want to live holy lives but lie about such mundane things.
The other one asked Seun a question and Seun answered him, he went on to comment just below that he asked and Seun didnt answer. I actually believed him at fist oo. This guy is dangerous . That was how he lied that he resurrected some nameless person without identity back to life.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:26pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Show us the complete opposite you found. Its easy to make claims. Show me proof of this research you just did. What os wrong with this shameless liar. You said according to Ichthyologists whales have enough air to allow animals as big as sharks to live inside them for prolong periods, you also said that whales digestive juices only kick in when the animals inside them are dead. Which ichthyologists told you that? Where did you get it from? SHOW ME. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:21pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Why are you showing me definition? Is the definition the study? You said you researched right? Is all you researched the definition? I said you are aliar. Just provide where you got the lies you spewed. There is no study any where that supports any of the nonsense you wrote you just made it up. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:20pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
randomperson: Christians can lie ehn??  Do you know that I actually believed what he stated until I decided to do a goggle search and discovered that it was only statement on nairaland came out as a result? I searched and found the complete opposite. He is shameless. That's how they keep making things up all the time. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:16pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: I thought you said you just checked so show me what you found out that made you say i am a liar. You claim i lied so show me proof i lied You are a liar. From wikipedia Ichthyology (from Greek: ἰχθύς, ikhthus, "fish"; and λόγος, logos, "study"  , also known as fish science, is the branch of biology devoted to the study of fish. This includes bony fishes (Osteichthyes), cartilaginous fish (Chondrichthyes), and jawless fish (Agnatha). Where can it be found that a whale has enough air to make animals survive inside it for prolong period ? We're is the study that says that a whales digestive juices only kick in when Animas have died inside the whale. In which Verde of the ible did you get that becaude there is no scientific evidence for this maybe a spiritual evidence but no scientific one is available. You have been been caught lying as usual. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:11pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: U dat we have been waiting for proof for all ur claims since morning?
Abegi At least I didn't make up lies to support anything here. You man just formulated sweet lies and presented a pack of lies. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:09pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: You keep shouting LIAR LIAR up and down without any single proof.
I have already answered you. The rest is up to you.7 You are a liar you me the nonsene you wrote up. Prove to me that you didn't make it up. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:07pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Google is your friend!
Stop making noise without proof. I have mentioned the area of study, its called Ichthyology. Go and learn! It is a lie. You just made it up. I actually checked it that was when I realized you lied. Show me where you got the lies you spwed up there. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:06pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: Just
Look at who is asking for study?
Mscheww Where is the study. You think you guys can jut make things up anyhow. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:06pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Dalaman is the great fish no longer a whale? I have shown you KJV of mathew 12: 40.
Anything else left for you to deny? I just noticed you just concocted some lies. Al what you said previously is not true. The study that show a that whales have enough air to keep living things inside them for a long time can be found where? What about the one that says their digestive juices only kick in when the things inside them are dead. Where is that study that says this. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 7:03pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: This is how you see how illogical atheists can be. You say something is ridiculous without research or proof.
Ichthyologists have shown that whales have enough air in them to keep living things alive for extended periods expecially since they do not breathe through water and evidence has shown whales swallowing fish bigger than man such as great white sharks and smaller whales. They also said the digestive enzymes in a whale only kick in when that which was swallowed is dead but as long as its alive then digestion cannot commence.
So is the Jonah story looking illogical? You are lying. Where is the study that supports all the lies you spew here? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:52pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: I just showed u a koran verse and u mentioned me without touching the verse.
Am I surprised again? No. Its what u have been doing since morning. Its expected for your level. The verse did not say anything about Jesus. His name wasn't mentioned in the verse so what exactly are you on about? The Koran in very specific places states that Jesus is not the son of God and he wasn't crucified. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:45pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: This is how you see how illogical atheists can be. You say something is ridiculous without research or proof.
Ichthyologists have shown that whales have enough air in them to keep living things alive for extended people expecially since they do not breathe through water and evidence has shown whales swallowing fish bigger than man such as great white sharks and smaller whales. They also said the digestive enzymes in a whale only kick in when that which was swallowed is dead but as long as its alive then digestion cannot commence.
So is the Jonah story looking illogical? Jonah was swallowed by a fish according to the bible. No whale was mentioned there. A whale is NOT a fish. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:41pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: Verse 10:94; so if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
Who was the koran referring to there?
I can see u have jumped ship to hinduism.... Lol. Your confusion is a lot. Koran could not save you abi?
All in attempt to keep jumping up and down not to provide your backup for your claims.
I just pity. The Koran says clearly that Jesus is not the son of God and he wasn't crucified. What else are you blabbing about. Koran save me from what? Neither the bible nor the Koran can save me from anything. I don't need any saving. I just asked you a simple question. How did the Hindu religion come about? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:11pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: I am not a Young earth creationist and I believe in salvation . The creation story attributes creation to God and explains man's purpose on earth. Young earth creationist insist that the creation accounts are literal and true . Are they right or wrong? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:09pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: U dodged men. U could only say "we are told". That was a mess up. Besides the koran affirms the gospel of Jesus. U couldnt tell me back what affirmed the koran.
Besides we are still waiting for your evidences of how man invented God and taught themselves marriage.
Time has run out. We are tired. The Koran does not affirm the Gospel of Jesus. According to the Koran Jesus is not the son of God. He was not crucified and he isn't coming back to judge anybody. He is only coming back to kill pigs and kill the Dajal. The existence of many Gods and the pattern all shows that God/s are man made ideas. What was the name of the God your ancestors were worshipping 3000 years ago? Do you even know it's name? What about the name of the God the Hindus are worshipping today? Is there God real or not? Over a billion people believe in the Hindu God Brahma. Did they invent bit or is it real just like yours? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 6:01pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: U have already dodged the question on koran before. So stop talking about Mohammed. The Bible predates the koran by far.
So provide your history for ur claims.
U dont have any recorded history. I didnt dodge any question on the Koran. You were the one that dropped it. So what if the bible predates the Koran. The Koran and the hadiths are also recorded history . And in them Mohammed divided the moon inot two. You have mythology and you are here talking about recorded history. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:58pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: What he should have asked himself is if there is no whale as big as the bible described that swallowed Jonah.
2. Do whales chew or do they simply swallow.
Those 2 questions speak for themselves. The bible does not say whale. The bible says fish. Even if it is a whale. You'll have to tell me.if you were there when he survived inside the whale for 3 days and explain to me how a person can survive inside a whale for 3 days. We will take you to the ocean, allow a whale to swallow yu and see if you will survive for 3 days. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:55pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: At least its recorded history.
Show us your own recorded history of how men taught themselves how to marry.
Show us the recorded history of how man invented God. Recorded history or recorded mythology. After all if we are to go by your recorded history brouhaha then we can also say that Mohammed divided the moon into two halves and people in other parts of the world saw it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:53pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Your preference of creation story -allegorical or literal- is not a prerequisite for eternal life , salvation is . Christianity does not lay any emphasis on how the creation story should be seen . Its a personal choice . But some YEC have tied salvation to the belief in a young earth. My question still stands. Why does the creation story appear in the bible if it is of no use. What is the position of the bible on creation? Is the creation story an allegory or not. What is the true position of the bible. Jesus crucifixion isn't an allegory accor ding to all christians that I know. What about the creation story? What is the Bible's true osition on that? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:49pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Here we go again with this fallacy of hasty generalization...
History of cavemen? Documented by who? Cavemen?
were you there when they were teaching themselves?
I have asked you before if you know what a HYPOTHESIS is?
Is the history of man or marriage a HYPOTHESIS or not? Give me an answer. Where you there when a fish swallowed Johah? But you believe it happened abi? I can also play your games so don't even go there. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:44pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: There are Christians who see the creation story as an allegory . There are so many Christians who are evolutionists on this forum . Is the creation story in the bible and allegory or not?what is your Gods position on that? Does he want anybody to know his position? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:41pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: WTF and face palm.
Men taught themselves how to marry women?
Can you show me your supporting data for this? Go and study the history of marriage and how it evolved. The caveman didn't know anything like marriage. Men thought themselves and created most things. Language, writing, culture, laws, religion etc men created and thought themselves all these things. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:35pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: So now you are switching to evolution yet earlier you subscribed to creation but not by religious standards.
WTF! I only talk of things that are known. Scientifically a first man is impossible. It has nothing to do with evolution. We can use DNA to trace the first man if there is any such thing. But there is nothing like that. That knowledge is actually what drove some christians to begin the theistic evolution movement. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:32pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: You just equated sex to marriage. Am I surprised? For your level, No i am not.
Animals have sex, they dont get married.
Besides u just made a claim on human anthropology, with no evidence again. And if u say there was nothing like first man on earth.
And with the same mouth, u said humans "started worshipping" The same mouth that said man had to be indoctrinated.
Somethings are obviously wrong. Obviously you are more interested in attacking a straw man. Sex exist in nature marriage does not. Men thought themselves how to marry women. I was just trying to show that sex exist in nature but marriage does not just forgot to add the marriage part. Read up on human anthropology and learn. The people that invented the God idea had to indoctrinate others. Just as when the whites conquered your lands and systematically made your ancestors to stop worshipping the Gods they were worshipping which was their own creation and accept their version of God and accept their religion. Even though your ancestors did not invent the God idea they had to indoctrinate your parents and your parents had to also indoctrinate you and you in turn will have to indoctrinate your Kids to accept a God idea that wasn't yours but that of the white man. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 5:24pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: The premise is that everything must have a signature to as proof of ownership . Right? So what signature where you looking forward to that will indeed prove that God created nature Any signature that reads and serves and evidence to show that a particularGod created nature. We humNs always have our signature on things we create. Where is God's signature in nature? Natural theology disproves the emboldened text . Natural Theology is gotten from personal observation and is not learnt . It only shows that humans have the ability to assign agency to things. After all we came down from people that used to worship natural elements like the sun, mountains, rivers.thunder etc. This is a poor conclusion . The existence of consciousness (self awareness ) and ability to understand (intelligence) does not mean that all men will come to knowledge of the same God instead those prove that such cannot exist without a conscious and intelligent creator . Not true because evolution accounts for consiousness and intelligence. It offers some explanation. You and I might not accept it but an explanation has been given for consiousness and intelligence that has nothing to do with any intelligent creator. So your assertion that such cannot exist without an intelligent creator is not true. |