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He must be blind then.

It is really unfortunate what the elections have become. Nigeria will never get better.

achorladey:
At least I know of three
1. Maximus69 (deleted)

2. MaxInDHouse (still in existence)

3. Maximus692 (still in existence, I discovered that yesterday sef)

4. AkinwaleJjj (one he attributes to his partner but he usually use when under ban sometimes)

Very good. So, is he not a Pharisee with these 3 monikers?

achorladey:
That's the classic case of (MaxInDHouse aka Maximus692 aka Maximus69). You will not be the last to try and accuse of creating numerous monikers. That is his mode of operation here. They hardly follow what they put out there. Here is another example as captured in their publications.

He will soon come and say you should show him a better performing performance group than the religious group he belongs yet the publication below shows that kind of thinking and mentality are those of PHARISEES

That was why I told him earlier that JWs are Pharisees. I almost got baptised into this Cult. But some things I saw didn't sit right with me at all. This their No Blood doctrine is a red flag to me. Then the whole staying away form ex members, Not reading outside sources, they are many abeg. It's almost as if the religion has a lot to hide about itself and I was not comfortable with that at all. I couldn't wrap my head around me rejecting Blood and allowing my family to die because of No Blood issue. That action doesn't look like what God would support. I asked the person studying with me that why is it that Blood Transfusion isn't specifically mentioned in the Bible as something to stay away from? He couldn't give me a satisfactory answer. Then I would visit the Kingdom hall occasionally when the guy would invite me.

But at some point, I started to go to their former members forums because I believed if they could leave, that means something big made them leave. So, I needed to know what life is really like as a JW. Omo, My eyes were full and I took a deep dive into their religion for real and realised that is not for me. I have JW friends though. They would invite me sometimes, I will go. But to join them? No. I can't do that. After all I know now. The forums really made me understand their nature which led me to the conclusion that it is a Cult. That's why I was drilling this Maximus dude.

achorladey:
Once they know you have given them no room to propagate their agenda, the next step is to attack you in whatever way and means available in order to discredit or make sure the information you are putting out is left by the way.

Yes. I have noticed it is his way to escape my questions. He ran away. Lol. So he can have more than one moniker but he is accusing another falsely of the same. Does that make sense? How many monikers does he have?

achorladey:
He simply cannot obey them since his religious organization and leaders and he himself hardly follow what they put out there.


Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying: 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses. 3 Therefore, all the things they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but they do not practice what they say.+ 4 They bind up heavy loads and put them on the shoulders of men, but they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger.


The screenshots below will tell you more about this one called MaxInDHouse or Maximus692 . He simply created a thread to support what his religious leaders told him about those they call APOSTATES and informed others to uphold whatever the religious leaders taught yet he that put it out there cannot follow through

I was wondering. Since JWs are not allowed to have these kind of discussions with people they have been told are faithless, Why is he always in atheist threads or other threads of Faithless people?

So, this same Maximus is MaxInDHouse but he is here accusing me of being Oteneaaron and Couz. Lols.

Maximus692:
Oteneaaron/ Courz/ Dangig you've been exposed!

From November 22 90% of your posts is about JWs.

Ọmọ go and listen to the results of politics at least that's more important to you than God's organization!

This is not exposure. Prove that Oteneaaron Courzs and me are the same person. From your logic, anyone who talks about JWs are the same person. Why didn't you call other monikers that talk about you JWs as well? And by the way, why are you accusing Oteneaaron of being me and Cours? Where did that come from?

Maximus692:
Gbam!
You have been nailed!
Oteneaaron's new account in addition to Courz now you've been exposed with this account.

Try another method!

Oteneaaron again? Oteneaaron is Courz? And the same person is me? Lol. Is this your way of running away from my questions?

Your response shows No. You are not allowed to research your Cult from outside sources or listen to Negative reports about them.

Are your Watchtower leaders, Government body, disfellowshipped when they break your rules the same way You JWs are disfellowshipped?

Maximus692:
Your PERSONAL opinion shey?

Oh Yes. That's exactly how you are judging from your comment history. Can you explain why you have chosen to disobey your Cult's order?

Maximus692:
Now you're displaying lack of understanding!

Between the Pharisees whose Rabbis welcome ideas from other sources to form opinion and Jesus' disciples who stick to the same line of thought which does JWs reflect?

You JWs are more like the Pharisees. So your 1st verse is out. Same with your 2nd verse. You haven't answered the question.

Are you allowed to research your religion from outside sources? Are you allowed to hear, read or talk about negative reports about your religion? Yes or No?

Maximus692:
I pick interest in anyone that is interested in jw.org to know what exactly interests them that's why i am showing you what this guy has in mind perhaps he believe the same god you believe!

No. You don't pick interest in who is interested in your Cult. From your comments, you deliberately love to be in the company of people you are trained to despise. You are not following the orders of your Cult. That's why you are obsessed with all his threads. There are many things you have unknowingly learnt from his threads. Hence, the obsession.

Maximus692:
“Keep your eyes open and watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees" Matthew 16:6

Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of bread, but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees! Matthew 16:12

But you JWs are more like the Pharisees. So your 1st verse is out. Same with your 2nd verse. You haven't answered the question.

Are you allowed to research your religion from outside sources? Are you allowed to hear, read or talk about negative reports about your religion? Yes or No?

Maximus692:
https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse
https://www.nairaland.com/7492800/kind-god-worship-determines-level
https://www.nairaland.com/7464041/pagan-christ-book-review
https://www.nairaland.com/7408198/man-thinketh-book-review
https://www.nairaland.com/7373591/how-realized-religion-powerful
https://www.nairaland.com/2871008/created-god
https://www.nairaland.com/2936246/christianity-moral
https://www.nairaland.com/2813543/sin-necessary-evil

These are the threads of your friend and 60 out of 80 threads he has put up so far is about JWs so if he's your friend it's good you worship with him!

That means you are very weak minded. This dude is a very big threat to your Faith. That's unfortunate. He created these threads yet you still found yourself there. Why? I thought you are supposed to stay away from his kind. That means you enjoy these threads he created.

Maximus692:
"Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them" Romans 16:17

"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works" 2John 10-11

Good. Your Response means No. You are not allowed to associate with Ex members even if they are still believers in God and Jesus. This is Sign of a Cult Number 4.

Are you allowed to research your religion from outside sources? Are you allowed to hear, read or talk about negative reports about your religion? Yes or No?

Maximus692:
Great!

So go and worship with worshipers of your God like oteneaaron!

Why do you and your fellow JW keep calling this guy's name? Is he a threat to your Faith? He must be a very important person to you.

Maximus692:
Ọmọ our organization is rich because our God owns the heavens, the earth and everything in it so riches and glory belongs to our God JEHOVAH!


@ Jesus said whoever shrinks back is unworthy of God's organization {Luke 9:62} so no member of God's family should have dealings with such foolish ones! Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11
@ Jesus said whatever those taking the lead in God's organization binds the heavens has bound it and whatever they loosen the heavens has loosened it {Matthew 16:19} so whoever feels like he's smarter than them will receive judgment like Ananias and Saphiras even though they were wrong on what they decided upon.
Jesus has warned his disciples that poverty can not be eradicated among them until God's Kingdom comes {John 12:8} yet the apostles committed a blunder trying to eradicate poverty in their midst {Act 4:34-37} but when Ananias and Saphiras tried to play smarter than the apostles God's Holy Spirit killed them despite the fact that the arrangement wasn't right from the standpoint of the founder of Christianity! Act 5:1-11

So whoever want to question the authority Christ gave those leading God's organization is doing so at the expense of his own soul! Hebrews 13:7, 17

Your insistence on a YES or NO response is none of my business as long as interested ones are following honest hearted and sincere individuals will learn from our discussion.
So continue asking and the answers will be supplied whether it pleases you or not!

You can see I am no longer depending on you supplying Yes or No answers. Your responses so far are enough to be deduced.

So, your answer to the first question is No. Watchtower never informed you JWs about how they achieved their Billionaire status and their investments. This is sign of a Cult Number Two.

Your answer to the 2nd question is No. You are not allowed as A JW to question, correct or criticise your Watchtower leaders when they are obviously wrong about anything. This is sign of a Cult number 3.

My next question, Are you allowed to speak or associate with Ex members of your religion or with JWs who choose to leave? Yes or No.

Maximus692:
Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Your response shows Yes. The God described by the Psalmist is not the god you worship. Thank you for your responses. I have learnt a lot from these conversations. You have helped to confirm my suspicions about JWs. Your beliefs are so different from Christianity because you do not worship Almighty God in the heavens.

Maximus692:
My response is for people who want to learn and know why a righteous God doesn't come to the rescue of innocent victims of tyrants so keep your faith for those that will need it!

Now since you disagree with the Psalmist, that means his description does not fit the description of your own god. Therefore, the All powerful Almighty God the Psalmist worships is not the same god you worship. Yes or No?

Maximus692:
According to Jesus, apostle Paul and apostle John whoever shrinks back from the group is no longer worthy to associate with so condemn Jesus, Paul and John they're the ones we are following not your opinion!
Luke 9:62; Romans 16:17; Hebrews 10:38; 2John 10-11

So who do you think owns all the millions of dollars gained from whatever God's people have?
Do you know that throughout the world only JWs distributes Bibles (deluxe) and everything else to all their members free of charge?
Well our God is the richest that's why none among his worshipers lacks the tools needed for our salvation like Bibles the spiritual sword Jesus ordered all if us to get at all cost! Luke 22:36 compare to Psalms 23:1; 37:25

Unlike your own pastors that are using your contributions to buy private jets and properties no member of God's organization can use any of what is owned for private use.

Recently a member of the Governing Body was stepped down all your friends were rejoicing but do you think if the assets of God's organization is for their personal use he won't go to court for his own share?

Ọmọ open your eyes you're mingling with mockers who has no faith in whatever has to do with God's word. Oteneaaron your friend doesn't believe (trust) in God's word!

Thank you for confirming that You cannot leave JW without facing serious consequences. This is sign of a Cult Number One.

Next question, Are you allowed as a JW to question, correct or criticise your Watchtower leaders when they are obviously wrong about anything? Yes or No?

Maximus692:
According to Jesus, apostle Paul and apostle John whoever shrinks back from the group is no longer worthy to associate with so condemn Jesus, Paul and John they're the ones we are following not your opinion!
Luke 9:62; Romans 16:17; Hebrews 10:38; 2John 10-11

So who do you think owns all the millions of dollars gained from whatever God's people have?
Do you know that throughout the world only JWs distributes Bibles (deluxe) and everything else to all their members free of charge?
Well our God is the richest that's why none among his worshipers lacks the tools needed for our salvation like Bibles the spiritual sword Jesus ordered all if us to get at all cost! Luke 22:36 compare to Psalms 23:1; 37:25

Unlike your own pastors that are using your contributions to buy private jets and properties no member of God's organization can use any of what is owned for private use.

Recently a member of the Governing Body was stepped down all your friends were rejoicing but do you think if the assets of God's organization is for their personal use he won't go to court for his own share?

Ọmọ open your eyes you're mingling with mockers who has no faith in whatever has to do with God's word. Oteneaaron your friend doesn't believe (trust) in God's word!

Has Watchtower ever disclosed how they became Billionaires? Did they ever inform you JWs about them being involved in Real Estate Businesses? Did they tell you about their investments? Yes or No?

Maximus692:
The God who spoke to Abraham said:

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21

From this statement above it's clear the God of Abraham is not omnipresent otherwise He need not go down to verify whether the report brought to Him is true or false!

The Psalmist you're quoting is talking about God's ability to protect His loyal ones and their descendants.

Abraham asked God if Sodom and Gomorrah will still be destroyed if 50 faithful people are found there and God responded saying in behalf of 50 faithful people Sodom and Gomorrah will be spared. Abraham continue negotiating until God confirmed that in behalf of 10 faithful people Sodom and Gomorrah will be spared, but on getting there only three were found: Lot and his two daughters.

But why is it that God didn't know about Lot and his two daughters before getting there?

Apostle Paul admonished faithful servants of God:

"Do not forget hospitality, for through it some unknowingly entertained angels." Hebrews 13:2

Lot wasn't part of God's plan so God's undivided attention was on Abraham but due to his hospitality Lot was the only man who showed hospitality to the strange looking men that visited Sodom and Gomorrah! Genesis 19:1-3

That was what saved Lot otherwise those angels never gave God any report that someone faithful lives in Sodom and Gomorrah it was supposed to be devoted to destruction.

So my friend the God who spoke with Abraham is not omnipresent it's His angels who are roving throughout the earth that do get reports of what humans are doing then report back to Him! 2Chronicles 16:9 compare to Ezekiel 10:12

God's eyes are too pure to see the evil wicked men do to themselves and their innocent neighbours {Habakkuk 1:13} all such activities do sadden God's heart {Genesis 6:6} but He is a happy person who wants others to be happy too! 1Timothy 1:11

That's the secret why the Almighty God chose not to be omnipresent!

There is no need for all these long story. Your response shows you disagree with the Psalmist about his description of God. Good.

Now since you disagree with him, that means his description does not fit the description of your own god. Therefore, the All powerful Almighty God the Psalmist worships is not the same god you worship. Yes or No?

Janosky:
1.
No Jehovah's witness is above correction.
Oga,Believe whatever suits your whim & continue deceiving yourself.

2[b].
There are consequences attached to Whatever you decide to LEAVE.

If you decide to LEAVE your house now, there are consequences attached to your decision.

If you decide to LEAVE school or LEAVE your Church, there are consequences attached to that decision.
Oga, you based your claim on a FALSE premise.

You are now enslaved to the opinions of Atheists who form labels to suit their whims.

That is the consequences of your decision to agree with their spurious claims.

Your friend forming Atheist is a confirmed Idol Worshipping student of spiritism.
Later,he tell you lies & claim "independent thinking" whereas he is a slave of idolatry [/b]

You using Leaving school and Leaving your home as arguments for this topic? This is pathetic. You really don't know what to say. When people leave school, do they loose their families and friends? Do they shun them? When you leave your home, do you lose families and Friends? Do they shun you? Your IQ is very poor. This is serious! Try to think about what you want to type before typing. How old are you?

Thank you for confirming that You cannot leave JW without serious consequences. This is sign of a Cult Number Two.

Has Watchtower ever disclosed how they became Billionaires? Did they ever inform you JWs about them being involved in Real Estate Businesses? Did they tell you about their investments? Yes or No?

Janosky:
God sees EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE, confirmed by Psalms 139.
God,Our Father who art in heaven speaking from heaven, Matthew 6:9 & 3:17- holy scriptures.

God our Father who art everywhere- man made doctrine.

Your response shows you disagree with the Psalmist in his description of God. Therefore, you disagree with the Bible itself. Good. I am understanding you JWs better now. Let's move on.

Since you disagree with the Psalmist, that means Almighty God with awesome power as described in these verses is Not the god you JWs worship since his description of him does not match the description of your god. Therefore, the Psalmist's God is not your god.

Yes or No?

Janosky:
According to your interpretation,"God is everywhere", you are implying that the gospel of
John 5:37, Matthew 3:17 & Matthew 6:9 were fabrications by Jesus Christ.

If "God is everywhere" according to your claim,why would God's voice speak from heaven?

Bro's , your interpretation of Psalms 139 is FAULTED by Matthew 3:17,John 5:37 & Matthew 6:9.

Matthew 6:9, is it difficult for Jesus Christ to say "Our Father who is everywhere?".

When the Psalmist says If he goes to Heaven, God is there and if he goes to the grave, God is there and if he goes to the farthest oceans, God is there, does that not tell you God is Everywhere? And that no one can escape his Presence, exactly as the David said? You are trying very hard to oppose the Bible to suit your Watchtower. It is very unfortunate.

All these you are typing is story and tells me what I need to know about you JWs. You JWs don't agree with the Bible.

So in conclusion, you are saying you disagree with the Bible verses below. You disagree with the Psalmist about his description of God. Yes or No?

Janosky:
Bro's you have ZERO proof for your fictitious claim.
I asked you 2 questions:
"Is any Jehovah's witness above correction?"
Is EVERYTHING DONE in your Church broadcasted on social media or TV networks?

You refused to respond, because your LIES would be exposed.




If you leave Jesus Christ today, would there be no consequences?

U just dey swallow the GIBBERISH of Atheists as if them get sense.

And I asked you a simple question, Are you allowed as a JW to question or correct or criticise your Watchtower leaders when they are obviously wrong about anything? What did you do? You were busy turning your brain round and round and round. So, your response means No. You are not allowed as a JW to question, correct or criticise your Watchtower leaders. Finish! This is proof of a Cult Number One.

We are not talking about leaving Jesus. Your Cult says you cannot leave because it means you are leaving Jehovah and are now for Satan. I ask you, Are you allowed to leave your religion without Consequences? Answer Yes or No. I know you are afraid.

Janosky:
Dangig said :"Anywhere he goes in the four corners of the earth, God is There."

My questions:
When king David committed adultery with Uriah's wife, you mean God is there in the room?

You mean your God is there in your Community's shrine?

You mean your God is there in the brothel house ?

God came down from heaven and set up unseen residency in your home?


I wan understand what "God is there" really means as you understand the topic.

We already know he lives in Heaven. Yet, the Psalmist describes his awesome power. He says If he goes to Heaven, God is there. If he goes to the grave, God is there. Anywhere he goes in the four corners of the earth, God is There. Therefore, God is Everywhere. The Psalmist says he can never hide from God. He says he can never run from his Presence, meaning, His presence is everywhere.

Since God's eyes are everywhere, therefore he is everywhere. If he is everywhere, then nothing can escape him in Heaven and on earth. Therefore, he knows all according to these verses.

Yes or No?

Janosky:
God lives in heaven, King David said so.
From heaven,God sees everywhere, Psalm 11:4-5.
Psalm 139 agrees with Psalm 11:4-5.

Does God dwell in your house to see you ?

No.

Will God leave His throne in heaven and come to the earth to see you in your home?
No.

Is your God in a pagan shrine?

We already know he lives in Heaven. Yet, the Psalmist describes his awesome power. He says If he goes to Heaven, God is there. If he goes to the grave, God is there. Anywhere he goes in the four corners of the earth, God is There. Therefore, God is Everywhere. The Psalmist says he can never hide from God.

Since God's eyes are everywhere, therefore he is everywhere. If he is everywhere, then nothing can escape him in Heaven and on earth. Therefore, he knows all according to these verses.

Yes or No?

Janosky:
This is what David says, according to your Bible...

Proverbs 15:3

American Standard Version
The eyes of Jehovah are in every place, Keeping watch upon the evil and the good"


Proverbs 15:3= Psalms 11:4-5.

From heaven, the eyes of God sees everywhere.
God does NOT leave heaven and enters the earth to go everywhere.

Let's not ADD Maggi & Spices to the holy scriptures.

So, if God's eyes are everywhere, this means he is everywhere. And if he is everywhere, then he must know all according to these verses. Yes or No.

Maximus692:
You're quoting a human i quoted God Himself and according to God's word He is not omnipresent!

Your answer is Yes. You disagree. So, you disagree with the word of God about himself? That's unfortunate. You are Truly a Baby Christian.

You said it yourself. God's eyes are everywhere. Right? If God sees all, then He must be everywhere to see all and to know all, Yes or No?

Maximus692:
Do you disagree with what God said with His own mouth at Genesis 18:20-21 Yes or No?

Your answer is Yes. You disagree. So, you disagree with the word of God about himself? That's unfortunate. You are Truly a Baby Christian.

You said it yourself. God's eyes are everywhere. Right? If God sees all, then He must be everywhere to see all and to know all, Yes or No?

Janosky:
Proverbs 15:3

American Standard Version
The eyes of Jehovah are in every place, Keeping watch upon the evil and the good"


Proverbs 15:3= Psalms 11:4-5.

From heaven, the eyes of God sees everywhere.
God does NOT leave heaven and enters the earth to go everywhere.

Let's not ADD Maggi & Spices to the holy scriptures.

Read these verses and tell me what they say about God.

Maximus692:
So David who is a descendant of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob through whom Jesus is born mean God is everywhere to you shey?

You disagree with the Bible verses below? Yes or No.