Anas09: You no get respect. You called me by my first name, then added ma. Is this how you address your elder sister?
I wish you wld meet me in person, then you wld I'm not your age mate. The reason I stoop to have a discussion with you is to squash pride.
Anastasia, Sarcasm flies over your head at all times. Try to be less emotional at times. I really wish to meet you so we can determine who is the elder between me and you. Where are you based?
Morality will not take you away from sin, e.g an average moral states lies are bad, how many people refrain from it. But when you have Jesus, he will help you move away from it and all sins like adultery etc.
Morality is soiled by devil and now human enjoy bad behavior than the good, hence accepting Jesus now looks like a mountain to climb, even when all he's saying is move away from sins
I hope this is short enough
I personally and it is my personal belief that majority of the Pastors do not really believe what is written inside the bible. The bible is just a weapon they employ to keep their followers in check. The bible is used by most pastors as a carrot and stick weapon to keep the flock in check and then make money out of them. It is no different from the muslims only the idealism of the reward is different. 1. Do this and you go to a place of everlasting punishment. OR 2. Do this and you go to a place of everlasting rewards. The threat and fear of punishment is what most pastors capitalise upon to milk their flock constantly and consistently for life. So in my opinion most pastors do not believe in the words of the bible. It is just a tool for mind control and enrichment.
PastorBK: He created all but didn't use the evil of sin to destroy humans, he already said this tree of knowledge do not eat. Because he's aware he created all things and knows the one that will not be beneficial to us.
We ate the tree remember through the undesired help of the devil vis a vis the serpent. So this text you quoted doesn't normalize sins.
NB: this question already moved away from the original. Or does this mean you also believe in the bible (since you just quotted a part,) although wrongly refered to
Morality will not take you away from sin, e.g an average moral states lies are bad, how many people refrain from it. But when you have Jesus, he will help you move away from it and all sins like adultery etc.
Morality is soiled by devil and now human enjoy bad behavior than the good, hence accepting Jesus now looks like a mountain to climb, even when all he's saying is move away from sins
I hope this is short enough
Isaiah chapter 45 verse 7.
King James Version I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things
PastorBK: Let me answer with an illustration. In school I was taught morals like, don't steal, don't kill etc . The only issue is when I have some depressing mood or sickness or hatred from people and loved ones those teachings cannot get me through because my emotions and head is messed up .
Now to the bible, it teaches I should forsake sin and all like school taught me too, using stories (like u said fictional or non fiction) to make me understand. The only advantage is when I go through issue like the one I stated above, there is a inner voice that persuade me to stay strong and help give me peace through this crises.
Let me be frank with you. Im not in the business of thinking about how true or false something is.
What I know is my life is solid in peace, my marriage is blissful with children and I don't have stress because I avoided sin and stayed with the bible. It doesn't matter what I think, I have peace which is the ultimate to me plus I love others genuinely with hate or bias because the bible taught me so.
I know it took me some time to figure out getin the best out of everything but I'm here to help people get to their peace using the bible.
Are you saying your morality comes from what you learned from the bible or that morality is inherent in the DNA of humans? Do you need a book to make your conscience tell you that stealing or killing is wrong? By the way I asked a very simple question and you went on a long winded convoluted answer. Once again I ask you,as a pastor Do you really BELIEVE the bible?
PastorBK: First there is no strange grammar in what you wrote. I have a 30k word book on narcissism.
I said check my name, I didn't say check this thread. I have two accounts on here with thesame name but different ID.
Mohammed Ali said he is the greatest of all time in boxing even before we knew his name plus he also had defeats but he didn't dwell on his defeats.
Whatever positivity I radiate shows I know who is backing me up and believe in the process. If you're pissed with a man exhuming positivity, then there is an error somewhere.
Meanwhile I'm sure we have to address issues not using prior premonitions because we may be judging wrongly
ALI BOMAYE! ALI BOMAYE!! All hail the greatest and richest pastorprenuer in the world!
PastorBK: It's okay if you think this is untrue, but I may be the greatest Pastor you will see around now. Just check my name on nairaland and see how many people I have taught what I do to make money plus I still make loads of money till the moment online. If you seek first the kingdom of God and forsake sin, you will be shocked at how soon you can become wealthy.
When I tell people that most pastors suffer from messianic complex and that they also suffer from narcissistic personality disorder people will say I am blowing grammar.
Dude,I checked your post history and you only have one business related thread of 21 posts including the original post!! How this makes you the GREATEST pastor alive just boggles the mind.
PastorBK: This looks like a normal question but in the context that you asked it with, it's the best question so far.
A church we know is we individual saints saved by the blood of the lamb.
Now when we all meet in a four wall building (which we still refer to as a church, since we *churches all gather there) anything monetry belongs to us all. This is why it is not a good thing for a pastor to spend what belongs to the church. The bible already stipulate how funds should be handled.
Jesus is coming soon to take us back to him,most of us pastors need to change our ways. The world that were clamouring wealth for will pass away.
If power filled messages are coming from the alter and backed with commitment of love and money, most members will see God as much as they feel him.
Oga Pastor, Remember the ninth commandment. Me and you both know that the bolded is a big,fat LIE!!
PastorBK: This looks like a normal question but in the context that you asked it with, it's the best question so far.
A church we know is we individual saints saved by the blood of the lamb.
[b]Now when we all meet in a four wall building (which we still refer to as a church, since we *churches all gather there) anything monetry belongs to us all. [/b]This is why it is not a good thing for a pastor to spend what belongs to the church. The bible already stipulate how funds should be handled.
Jesus is coming soon to take us back to him,most of us pastors need to change our ways. The world that were clamouring wealth for will pass away.
If power filled messages are coming from the alter and backed with commitment of love and money, most members will see God as much as they feel him.
Oga Pastor, Remember the ninth commandment. Me and you both know that the bolder is a big,fat LIE!!
PastorBK: U have three answers to this. 1. As a CEO myself I know if you scale any entity or organization well, the number 1 citizen tend to live in it's afluence and wealth.
2. The bible says seek forth the kingdom of God and every other thing will I add.
3. It is not a crime for anyone to be rich including a pastor unless they aquire the money a wrong way.
To the glory of God I'm a pastor and I'm rich without a Kobo from the church added to me, I had been with money before I became a pastor but after I acknowledge and accepted the calling, I became more and more based on divine help.
So, money is good unless ill way gotten
Keep up the lies. I am enjoying you,but I am not deceived.
PastorBK: The church collects tithes and offerings and it's not the property or belongings of the pastor. I will treat this issue as we progress. We all must know the truth and be liberated
Who is this "church"? Is it a structure or human beings or a god?
ShootThemAll: God bless you bro. It's an agenda by South west to keep on discrediting South South most especially Rivers State. I have observed this in almost all their pics and videos.
Why can't they take a picture of Trans Amadi Gardens, Golf Estate, Fortune Estate, Odili Road, Cocaine Estate etc.
Why always negative news about South South from the South West controlled media.
You are quoting the wrong person because I certainly do not agree with you. While I agree that there are extremely beautiful and well planned areas in Port Harcourt, where I have an issue is the persistent attempt by majority of residents of PH to pretend that the slums do not exist in PH. When it comes to the slums of the water fronts and areas like Diobu,Mile one Okirika water front and Abonema area,majority of Port Harcourt residents develop selective amnesia and claim they have never heard of these areas or totally deny the existence of such places. These slums are part of PH. They cannot be wished away.
inereunwa1: like what the guy wey mention me rightly said, all the States of naija get brown roof! I concur!
You are now coming to my point. All cities in Nigeria have slum areas. The problem is that a lot of people like you are in denial. Initially you told us there are no brown roofs in Edo state and I simply pointed out to you that even Benin the capital of Edo state has MUD houses but they are plastered with outer cement coatings!
AngelJennifer: Nope. I served in Enugu state, Enugu north precisely, Enugu is a village to be compared to Port Harcourt, compare it with abakalaki, awka and the likes please. I don't even know this area posted here. It is not port Harcourt city. It could be one of those cities in other local governments in Rivers state.
You can say that to someone who has never been to Edo state. There are many mud houses in Benin/Igbobazuwa coated with cement plastering. This is how Port Harcourt people were shouting Garden city all over the place until these threads exposed the ghettos therein.
PRINTIKANIGERIA: Let me correct an impression here with the little I know of PH.
I think the Op and the other guy who posted similar pictures lives in the sames area of portharcourt (Lagos street, Town, Borokiri, Water Side, New Market, Nembe etc)
These areas are what we call the ghetto part of a city. (Majority of those leaving in PH does not know the road to these places. Especially if you are to go beyond Lagos bus stop, Aggrey Road)
I am currently based in Lagos and forget the hypes you get from Nigerian States, they are all trash. The only states with reasonable developments are Abuja , Lagos and to a large extent port Harcourt (forget these ghetto pictures. The state is well planned)
I think there is an Agenda to discredit the beauty of the City . ( I don't know what they stand to gain by snapping pictures of areas majorly occupied by the poor and less privileged in the states.)
Most of the Areas in PH are gated for security reasons. There is an island called eagle Island which presently you can't drink any satchet water and drop on the street or road. ( dem go flog u)
They have so many Rumus Eg rumuola, Rumuomasi, Rumuobiakani, Rumuopirikom, Romuodumanya, Rumuosi, Rumoimoi, Romuola, Rumuokuta, Rumuebekwe (na estates full here) Rumuigbo, Rumuolumeni etc
Orazi (Well planned, dem sabi get light like winch) Wimpey, Choba, Mgbuoba, Artillary, Garrison, TransAmadi, Eliozu, Dline (well planned) Old Gra , new Gra, Agip, Location, Olu Obasanjo, Igwuruta, Rukpokwu, Amadi Ama (well planned) Abuloma (well planned) tank, Slaughter, Woji (well planned) etc
Above are some beautiful areas in Port Harcourt, don't be deceived by the ghetto pictures. I have been in almost all states in Nigeria and I can state for a fact that only 3 states has seen a bit of development (Abj ,Lag, Phc)
yvelchstores: this is a political ploy. And seun was paid to always move these ghetto pics to fp. Argue with your phone.
On the other thread you were in denial that this is part of PH. Now you are saying it is a political ploy. The question you have refused to answer is :Is this part of Port Harcourt or not?
Viciheaka: which pastor has locked Himself in a bunker pls tell me
All the ex magicians who were performing all kinds of fake miracles,claiming to wake up the dead making the blind see and claim.ing to make the lame walk. Now that vivid 19 is around all these charlatans took to their heels and hid themselves in their well stocked bunkers. They should come out because there is work to be done in the isolation centres. Come out from hiding and cure coronavirus!!
Probably an alternate that he will now use his main to be viewing. What sort of sick twisted mind is this.
Most likely a teen still eating mamas food
I think the moniker should be banned. There was even a man that posted pictures of his two kids and his wife pleading for a hand out while the sick fvck of an OP was probably giggling and laughing at such a poster. Seun please do something about this kind of threads. It is just inhumane and totally unfair. It is a sick joke taken too far.
I think it's high time you guys kick false giveaway threads and serve a lengthy ban to those who decide to joke with peoples feelings.
This is unfair, the country is hard as it is and some people just decide to make fun of the challenges of others.
Please bin this thread and ban the op.
If you.check his/her thread history this is the third time he/she is doing this fake/false give away with nobody getting anything. I think Seun and his moderators need to put a stop to this sick and nauseating play on people's emotions. What does a person gain from doing this?
junnyjake: Revealing. Fear was a very effective tool used to ground most of us. And to think that he'll only started existing in the scriptures just a hundred years ago just makes it even more interesting.
Guilt and fear and indoctrination are the most powerful weapons religion uses to keep its adherents in chains. This simple but powerful video animation explains it very well.
I was born into a Christian home. My parents were staunch Methodists.They say Methodism was born in songs,so I knew and loved all the songs and hymns.I was taught the bible from a little age by my mother. I had my coloured book of Bible stories. I attended church regularly and by the time I was sixteen I set out to read the bible from Genesis to Revelation. I found myself questioning so many of the stories in the bible and the glaring contradictions. First of all I asked my mother and of course she had no answers but tried to give the answers she felt were right. I asked my school teachers and they couldn't give me the answers I desired. I asked pastors,the result was the same. No answers. Over the years I read the bible from cover to cover a couple of more times and the doubts still persisted. I got married and had children. I brought my family up in the Christian way but the doubts persisted in my mind. I guess I was so afraid of the threat of hell fire that I could not break free from the chains of religion that bound me down. Then came the internet and availability of information in the click of a button. I realised I was not alone in my doubts about religion. I browsed a lot of websites and realised I had been programmed from birth to live a lie. The shackles fell off and I was finally free. Free from fear of everlasting punishment in hell fire. Free from dogma and contradiction. I love my life and I can never go back. As for my family I don't force any one to toe my line. The choice is open to them to choose if they want to go with religion or not.
Eulalia: I won't say Jesus ascended into heaven in flesh and bones. He was transformed as he was being taken up according to the book of 1st Corinthians 15:50. I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality,
So I would say he was changed in a flash from corruptible (flesh and blood ) to incorruptible at ascension just like we shall all be transformed when caught up in the air to meet Christ at rapture.
Elijah too was transformed within twinkle of an eye as he was caught up in the heavenly chariots.
Muhammed rode a winged white horse into heaven when he died. I don't see any difference with Jesus ascension into heaven.
-- ANIMALS TALKED. -- ALL HUMANS TO EVER LIVE DESCENDED FROM EVE. -- ONE MAN SEPARATED THE RED SEA SO HE COULD CROSS OVER WITH HIS FRIENDS. -- ANOTHER MAN SPOKE TO A CROWD OF OVER 5000 PEOPLE (NOT COUNTING WOMEN AND CHILDREN) AT ONCE, WITHOUT A SOUND AMPLIFIER, AND EVEN FED THEM WITH ONLY 5 LOAVES OF BREAD. -- SAMSON ALONE KILLED HUNDREDS OF ABLE MEN WITH A SMALL BONE. -- THE SUN STOOD STILL FOR MANY HOURS. -- WE HAVE SPOTTED AND MULTI-COLOURED ANIMALS TODAY BECAUSE OF JACOB. WHEN WE USED TO HAVE ZEBRAS AND TIGERS AND LEOPARDS ALL LOOKING LIKE A WHITE BROILER FOWL, JAKE HAD THEM HAVE SEX LOOKING AT HIS DRAWINGS. THAT WAS HOW THEIR COLORS CHANGED INTO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.