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Wraith090:
You were arguing that the Helio p35 cannot have a 64mp and I told you it is possible with photo binning but you didn't agree

the SD660 cannot have 48mp but it is possible through photo binning
You agreed to this

Why do you believe one over the other?


Double Standards lmfao

You don't even know what you are arguing. You're all over the place. Information passed across na zero. You're just desperate to be right.

I don show you specs when I wan show. Anyone when see am go read am.

I have agreed with you on the binning a long time ago. My angst was the use of the Sony IMX 686. You instead switched to SD 660 and accused me of double standards.

You have no argument because you don't even know what you're arguing about.

I understand now.

There's no war. It's people like you who drum unnecessary sentiments. Someone with less patience would have replied you with an insult back. But I'm too old for that.


Finally: An open question to everyone. When Infinix use the G70, them sample am everywhere. Now would it make sense to for Tecno to use a Sony IMX 686 and forget to include it in the spec sheet? A premium sensor like that.

Please answer @ all.

This oga is not interested in honest discourse, just goalpost shifting. I don't discuss with people like you. Na argument when go turn insult you dey find. Well done. Odabo.

chariisGRACE:
Go read about Micromaxx

Thank you

Wraith090:
Perfecto!

Your facts be damned!

The Snapdragon 660 of the Redmi Note 7 CANNOT have a 48mp camera according to the processor makers

But then again this was achieved by photo binning as you clearly shared in your screenshot of the lenses

Be careful with your language, na beg I dey


https: //en .wikichip. org/ wiki/qualcomm/snapdragon_600/660

The GM1 from what I understand is a binned 12mp which is well within the 16mp limit.

It also has support for a single 48mp mode.

What are you arguing about now?

I have added a screenshot

Wraith090:
lols can you at least give me the source to the bolded

while you're at it you can also help with the camera of the redmi note 7

Like I said, I deal with facts

https ://en .m. wikipedia. org/wiki/Samsung_CMOS

Go through the list

chariisGRACE:
Which Xiaomi are you talking about, Is it the one below?

Bros you good. Make I follow you abeg.

kingPhidel:
And no body is mentioning INNJOO MAX3G. . .

I used Innjoo Fire and Leagoo.

Disaster in the highest

10thElement:
The war is always started by Xiaomi users .. they will never be on their thread always jumping from brand to brand too say negative things while their own is pending

For Nairaland here abi na for India bros?

Mod don reach here

All these mods no get joy oh.

chariisGRACE:
What you are seeing on NL is what happened in India some years back when their eyes were opened technologically...
We are just realising the damage Transsion has been perpetuating in the name of "Cheap and affordable".

I am a Gione user BTW.

I no know say this na true oh. Abeg where I fit take read this gist?

Wraith090:
if you don't have evidence what exactly is the basis of your argument?

Surely you're not just arguing blindly

The crux of your argument is that Tecno uses Sony IMX sensors 64mp. I asked which one, you said IMX 686 and you presented a site that wasn't well known to back it up.

I know Transsion. I know them well. If they used a Sony sensor, it would be part of the advertisement. Them for use am shine everywhere. But they didn't. In fact, what they did on their website is a revision. They edited the site.

Now ask yourself, would you use a Sony IMX and hide that fact away from the public?

The Redmi Note 7 uses a Samsung GM1 ISOCELL.

I have checked Sony's site as well but cannot see anything about Tecno there. So I decided to rest my case. I no dey sentimental guy. I deal with facts. If I no get facts, I rest. Them no dey pay me. Na learn I dey.

Just don't get it twisted.

Wraith090:
Thanks for this as there is no shame in admitting you're wrong

I wish the other guy can do the same

Enjoy the rest of your weekend

I didn't say I was wrong lol

I said I didn't have the evidence to prove you wrong. I don too old for these things abeg. Shalaye all you want but no twist my words. Thank you.

Wraith090:
GSM Arena doesn't talk about Sensor makers same with Kimovil nor do smartphone companies

There are only two smartphone sensor makers which are Sony and Samsung, and Sony make Transsion sensors

Checked: Agreed, GSM Arena does talk about sensors but Kimovil does. I could not find Tecno Camon 15 Pro on their site.

I don't have the evidence to disprove you sir so I rest my case. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

No discussion we dey, no be war.

elvischukie:
not just xiaomi marketers, tecno and infinix inclusive

Well said. Them just put us for middle of a war of attrition

ZesusHVWritter:
If anyone is ignorant, if anyone is biased. It's obviously you.
You are in a hurry to ask for my condemnation, in a hurry to request for an apology over an action that was neither criminal in anyway nor was it biased.

Check every of the above phone manufacturer you mentioned. They provide detailing information to their device even to the screen material, ram, rom, battery and camera module.
Not post misleading information and withholding incrementing details as regards to their product.

In the light of our thread on twitter and here on nairaland, Tecno did not only state the manufacturer of the main camera lens on the camon 15 premier they also stated manufacturer of the main lens, I should apologise because they did their job?

Listen well, I am going to ensure that the detail on the Tecno official site regarding the lens maker is not just another hoax.. I should apologise for making them do their job and according to you, I am ignorant because I refused to be as daft, poorly informed and misguided as you to accept things even when they speak volumes of their scamish nature?

Well, tell tecno to state the manufacturer of the camon 15 pro lens while they are at it. Since it took Tecno two months to input that Sony manufactured the 64mp lens on camon 15 premier.
It will probably take Tecno another 5 months to publicly state what is present in the camon 15 pro. https://www.tecno-mobile.com/phones/product-detail/product/camon-15-pro/
Who is the ignorant one?
Me for asking every important question or
You for wanting me to not ask any questions because you want Nigerians to spend on wasteful franchise engulfed in all manners of deceit?

I knew it was not there. They edited the website.

Wraith090:
https://www.gulftimes.com/africa/story/tecno-camon-15-with-64mp-camera-launching-in-kenya-soon

This is from a blog sir, not their official site. I couldn't find this information on GSM Arena or Kimovil.

Modified: I checked Gizmochina and Naija tech guide.
It still wasn't there.

Pangea:
I’m an avid technology and space x fan.
This is just an heads up for all Nigerian youths.
Elon Musk just launched the 5th batch of starlinks Satellites making a total of 480 for a cheap high speed internet to every part of the world, Nigeria included.
It’s going to be the game changer.
Beta testing is starting in the USA in the next few month and it will reach the world by 2021
We are talking about low latency high speed broadband internet at about $100 per month.
Hope everyone is getting ready to take advantage of this business opportunity
I’m just giving you guys an expo


https://www.starlink.com/

https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/23/elon-musk-says-starlink-internet-private-beta-to-begin-in-roughly-three-months-public-beta-in-six/

https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-spacex-launch-starlink-closes-in-on-800-internet-beaming-satellite-target-for-us-service/

$100 dollars a month. You want make boys broke?


The money reach buy phone oh

Sony CMOS sensors are given a model number like this IMX 586 or 686.


Na which one our dear Tecno dey use?

[quote author=Wraith090 post=90377385][/quote]Bro that thing no dey the website before. That 1.

2. Na which of the Sony sensors them dey refer to?


It like somebody say, I get Mercedes Benz. Omo na which model na?

The person come talk say Benz na Benz.

Bro no be fight. We dey put heads together. Shey you understand me ni?

AyamAnonymous:
Mediocrity is never a option when excellence is available.

Einstein no talk this kind thing oh

Geofavor:
Seems Nice and accurate, unless proven otherwise.....

Lalasticlala.

No be snake na.

Or it's not about Itel phone. No mod will push it to fp. If them push am, I no naked baff for bathroom.

ZesusHVWritter:
Please do me a favour and visit this thread. I dealt with binning issue. https://twitter.com/HOdilli/status/1247809984810766336?s=19
So you can have a proper knowledge of the limitations accompanying binning and only two lens manufacturers have this technology.. Samsung and Sony.
The Sony 64mp image sensor is the more expensive and practical output when compared to that of Samsung.
Tecno has refused to state the lens they used, because that would give users an opportunity to channel their attention to the company for verification.
Other than @techcabal which I am on their case to verify their claims of tecno camon 15 premier having a Sony 64mp lens, no other reputable site has the image sensor used on any of the camon 15 series.


Photo binning is not even close to fixing tecno's lie. Yes photo binning is a technology that is available, but it has its limitations. So how has Tecno managed to overcome this limitation and included a binned image sensor of 64mp on an incapable chipset like mtk p35?

This is interesting

I have been reading NL for a while and decided to make my voice heard.

I read people shouting marketer marketer. So I was reading yesterday and saw this post

Re: How Transsion Holdings Are Cheating And Lying To Nigerians by author=aperture11: 5:57am

I've been saying this since 2014/15 when Jesse Oguns recruited the first set of Nairaland influencers.

Their products has always been shitty, but those guys would write tens of topics daily to praise their dodgy devices.

See, I have inside info but let me keep quiet. That is not why I come to Nairaland and I am anonymous most times.

Then I also saw this while reading online.

It is a well-known fact in the industry that Transsion brands has digital marketers on their payrolls. These individuals basically spread the “Gospel” according to TECNO, Infinix and itel. Whether this new onslaught against Xiaomi phones is the handwork of these marketers remains to be seen. But so far, the complaints have been tame – nothing caustic like what the 3 musketeers of Transsion have been subjected to in the last few years.

I want to ask, who are the marketers on Nairaland and why are they angry?

I read one guy talk about demarketing all the time. Xiaomi warriors claim to fight for emancipation. What are you guys fighting for?

Crownedjon:
This is some high level of understanding

No be fight bros. We're just trying to exchange ideas. Na our Tecno brothers dey turn everything to quarrel.

Wraith090:
it's funny how dull these Xiaomi crooners are
Someone created an unbiased thread but these guys managed to still be shouting Redmi instead of covering their face in shame for claiming Tecno lied

But they did.

Helio P35 only supports dual cameras. 13+13mp. The highest resolution it can take for a single camera is 25mp.

Tecno Camon 15 pro sports a 64mp camera. And not just that, it's a quad camera set up. So how does it support the extra 2 cameras. Another one too, if the 64mp is binned to 16mp, how does a 13+13 set up carry a binned 16mp?

Finally, this quote is from the mobile Indian

// The image signal processor and post-image processing also play an important role in the development of the image. A phone with a good sensor and a weak ISP will produce bad binned images. //

So far, the images from Camon 15 Premier has proved them right.

tellsblinks:
my brother chill, I might have misunderstand your words

I was refering to tecno and not xiaomi

tecno have spare parts all over the country because they know that thier phone easily spoil

by the way I'm using a redmi note 7 too

I'm sorry

I will not bash anyone sha. Na as I see am na I go talk am.

You will not see me insulting anyone.

It is what it is bro.

tellsblinks:
what's this one saying?? they have spare parts all over Nigeria because they themselves know that thier phone spoils faster than you think

Why are you guys speaking from both sides of your mouth?

Initially, Una talk say Xiaomi people no get service centers, now them don get.

Una still talk say them no gets parts for market, now only Una don use Una mouth talk say them get parts full market.

So what is your criteria na for bashing them? You claimed their phones are bad. I get Redmi Note 7 when done dey near one year. My friend convinced me to buy. Best decision I ever made. I never repair anything for inside

Kalapizim:
Go and see the queue in any of these places too.

I thought you people used to yab them that they don't have service centers?

sunshineV:
Mtcheew I'm already tired of nairaland jare make them rename am to trashland

https. ://mobility .com. ng/tecno-vs-xiaomi-war/

Nairaland war has made the news

@RGBshield

I think it is actually the opposite.

I can list a lot of popular monikers that have been banned by the mods because they stand against Transsion.

The Xiaomi thread of over 7000 pages is locked.

How is that favouritism?

In fact I think it's Transsion marketers that are favoured by NL. Any post about Transsion products make it straight to front page but the mods never push other topics to front page.

Don't be a hypocrite sir. Thank you.

sunshineV:
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Write something there make spambots no ban you.