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The Harbinger ~:
God is reaping a multitude for heaven foolish man. As I said, you should read the bible before speaking in plain ignorance.

Foolish response as usual!

What multitude are you talking about?
You seem to have forgotten the following:

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Matthew 7:14
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Matthew 7:13
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luke 13:24
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:21

OLAADEGBU: Christians advocate for adoption instead of abortion.

I guess this is one situation where you don't want to lead by example...smh

OLAADEGBU: May God have mercy on us.

Wow, I'm really touched by your display of love towards these unborn children.
Btw, how many HIV/AIDS orphaned babies have you and your brethren adopted so far?

Joshthefirst: why blame God.

But listen to yourself man. Think. You hate God then, but you blame him for spontaneous abortion and use it to justify mass murder and intentional abortion?!

I weep for you. I weep for the child denied a chance to live. I weep for the child encouraged in godlessness.

I suggest you weep for God too!

The Harbinger ~:
because a man must be tested.

And when man failed the test, why did he continue with the failed project?

Didn't he learn anything from the failed project of Lucifer and co?

I guess he just couldn't swallow the fact that he's just a piece of shyte creator who can't get the basics right!

I wish Einstein was there to tell him this:
Insanity; doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results!

OLAADEGBU: None. You haven't answered the offences of millions of unborn babies that are still being murdered today.

Hope you know that 15-20% of recognised pregnancies end in spontaneous abortion!

What does God have against these unborn babies?

The Harbinger ~:
yes, sin can come with freewill.

There is no guarantee that angel gabriel won't sin in the future if he chooses to do so. But I believe angel gabriel has learned his lesson from his contemporaries in the bible who failed woefully in their sin and rebellion against God.(You should read the bible to have better understanding of my words), I don't think angels will rebel again, having seen its long term effects.

But mind you. The bible tells of a time when sin will be dealt with completely. By removing all sinful elements (who have shown so by their freewill) and isolating them from the good.

Why didn't God just isolate satan from the garden of Eden in the first place?

OLAADEGBU: All you need to do is to type her name and you will then be able to make educated guesses. Here is a suggested link for your perusal.

http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm

Sorry dude, the link doesn't say she's an abortionist.
So you were wrong!

The Harbinger ~:
I hope you're joking my good man. You have insulted your own intelligence by asking such a question, contradicting in itself.

Any adjective like such in your question; "sinless" before freewill makes freewill cease to be freewill.


I sincerely hope you're joking.


And you have not answered my question.

Joshthefirst said that angels have free will.
YOU said that sin comes with free will.
Therefore, there's no guarantee that angel Gabriel won't sin in the future!
And if man retains his free will in heaven, there's no guarantee that he won't use it to commit sin!

Is this what y'all are trying to tell us?

OLAADEGBU: You need to do your research on who she really is before you begin to think what she is not. Let me start you off with these videoclips that uncovers her mask.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlvtG6rQJoc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEja-1emRic

Sorry dude, I'm managing my MB
Give me a page link instead. An objective link o! Which shows that she is an abortionist like you claimed.

Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and [b][/b]more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation.

The results above shows that most of the irreligious people who participated in this research had a closer family history of depression compared to the religious subjects.
Therefore, religion may not be the only factor responsible for this result!
Heredity plays a very important role in determining those who are more likely to develop major depression.

OLAADEGBU: You need to read up on what she thought about you before you begin to defend the indefensible.

She ain't no saint, that is clear! But you erroneously painted her as an abortionist, which she is not!
We are talking about abortion, not her world view.

OLAADEGBU: Here's the solution your apostles came up with to solve the problem of millions of children living in abject poverty - to murder them "before they see the day light!"

Magaret sanger believed that contraception was the best way to prevent abortions!

Why do you want to drag her name in the mud just to prove an irrational point?

OLAADEGBU: Your worldview promotes the murdering of babies and that explains who legislates and executes the babies in the womb. There's no difference between Nazi, Germany and the atheist evolutionists, they are all murderers.

You pretend to care about the unborn children. Yet hundreds of millions of children are living in abject poverty while the "men of God" cruise the world in private jets!

Where's your perspective dude?

rationalmind: Lol, I thought uve read the bible? Tell us all what you read.

Man has freewill, he uses it to break the law.

Angels have freewill, they can't use it to break the law.

Lol. My only regret in life is that I was ever a christian.

[quote author=rationalmind][/quote]The guy is desperately trying to avoid the question

He's busy looking for a copout for the angels...lol

rationalmind: What did I say? Christians are simply retar.ded.

Ever since satans rebellion against God, it appears angels no longer have freewill for if they had, only someone who is ins.ane would say none would have rebelled against God since satan did so.

Lmao!!!

I thought they said having free will makes mankind unique!

I hope josh will elaborate on this free will that angels possess

Joshthefirst: why would he program you to keep his law when you would have no morals, and lack purpose and joy for keeping his law as a robot.

Why would you go to sych lengths to try to prove God didn't make the best choice? Or try to falsify his acts as wrong?

I assume that angels don't have free will.
So, you're trying to tell us that all those angels of God live miserable lives?

Yet people aspire to the qualities of these angels.
Are we getting something wrong?

OLAADEGBU: Foul! God has no beginning and has no end. He is the beginning and the end. The fact that you misunderstand the nature of God is the main bane of the atheists wannabes. You erroneously think that God is bound by the universe and that He is part of the chain effects within time, all of which require a cause. The truth is that God doesn't require a cause since He has always existed. God is beyond time and is not part of the universe. God is not a thing.

So, what do you guys mean when you say that man is created in Gods image?
How is it that Gods image is a "thing" and HE'S not?

What do y'all mean when you say that God feels love, hate, jealousy, happiness, regret and even fatigue? How can you know that he feels these "things", and yet believe he's "no thing"?

By the way, according to y'all, God is BOUND by a law that says he can't interfere with free will.
In other words, he is POWERLESS against this law.
He has no choice but to OBEY this law.
Just like every other thing in this universe obeys one law or the other!

You were trying to be smart with the word "thing" not knowing that anything spiritual CAN also be called a "thing"

Let me put it this way:
Is God "some thing" or "no thing"?

OLAADEGBU: God is not a thing. He is a Spirit that is not bound by natural laws. God is a Spirit and not a sequence of energetic reactions. The laws of thermodynamics does not apply to God.

Dictionary.com
thing:
anything that is or may become an object of thought: things of the spirit.

So, you can see that a spirit is also a thing. Perhaps you should check the dictionary before getting your words twisted

RationalDude: @op, you said that God is love and according to the bible, this is the definition of love:
..................................................................
1 Corinthians 13:4-7
New International Version (NIV)


4 Love is patient, love is kind. It
does not envy, it does not boast, it
is not proud. 5 It does not
dishonor others, it is not self-
seeking, it is not easily angered, it
keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love
does not delight in evil but
rejoices with the truth. 7 It always
protects, always trusts, always
hopes, always perseveres
.................................................................

Do you honestly think that the God of the bible has these qualities?

Lol!
See as they all act as if you never posted this?

Reyginus: Lol. Frankly speaking, I thought as per the David hume your username seem to admire, this would have been very easy to comprehend.
How can one leave matter out of it when a specie is matter?

Stop confusing yourself dude.
Logicboy has already answered your question.
I'm done with this

Reyginus: You still don't get it, bro. Maybe I will blame myself for not being good with words.
My question is, if Darwins worked on the Origin of Species, how do you explain the incompleteness of this theory?

Maybe if you stated the incomplete areas of the theory, it might help folks answer your questions better.
Just leave matter out of it!

OLAADEGBU: You could only read "God is Nothing" because of the atheist evolutionist glasses you use in viewing the evidence around you but those who put on biblical creationist glasses would read "God is no thing." Do you now see why I said that you need to change your glasses so as to see clearly?

This is just hilarious!
So, If God is NO thing, then what IS God?

Reyginus: Lol. You still don't it.
The body of any specie is made up of matter.
Do you think it is sensible for one to lay claim to the origin of any specie if he cannot really reduce the materials composing this specie?

Perhaps you're referring to DNA or RNA? That is perhaps as far as you can reduce evolution.
Talking about matter wont get you very far wrt theory of evolution!
So amend your question dude

Joshthefirst: please state one evidence supporting evolution clearly and precisely. If you cannot, you ought to be ashamed for spreading false news to decieve gullible minds.

There's no point. Since you even dismissed the relevance of adaptation to evolution.

Its like asking someone to explain chemical reactions without mentioning electrons!

Reyginus: Lol. I see what you are trying to do but I will not allow it.
How can a thing be highly flawed and still be the best explanation, David Hume?

You're the one that thinks its highly flawed.
The evidence supporting evolution is everywhere.

I was talking about the origin of matter. In order to be certain, you have to go back to the time before matter existed i.e, b4 big bang!

Joshthefirst: what are you saying? Adaptation leads to evolution? Smh.
This is a quote from the heading of the link you gave me:
This article is about the evolutionary process. For other uses, see Adaptation (disambiguation).
Here's the real link that contains the biological definition of adaptation:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptation_(disambiguation)
And here's the definition from the link:
In Biology, adaptation is the process whereby a population becomes better suited to its habitat.

Adaptation does not lead to a production of a new kind of organism over a period of time. That Is unscientific and is mere speculation. Adaptation just makes an organism better suited to its environment. Birds will remain birds, apes will remain apes. Humans will remain human.
Stop spreading falsehood.
Embrace truth. Stop trying to remove the place of God's supremacy in thought and imagination. Look at what it has turned you into and made you do.

Do you mind not using the term 'kind' in this discussion?
I think the use of less ambiguous terms like "species, genus, family" etc will make things clearer...

Reyginus: So you accept that the origin of species by Darwin is a fraud?

It's the best explanation yet.
Better than the hocus-pocus of religion!

Reyginus: I have reasons, but with you I will start with one.
That is, Evolution cannot prove the origin of the matter.

Nobody can conclusively prove the origin of matter. Not even religion!

OLAADEGBU: The Scriptures tell us that the "natural man" cannot understand the things of the Spirit of God. Most English people would find it difficult to understand the Chinese language. However, a child who is born into a Chinese family can understand every word. That's why you must be born again with God's Spirit living within you (John 3:3). The moment you become part of God's family, the Bible will begin to make sense.

"But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him: neither can he he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Corinthians 2:14). The Evidence Bible.

Yeah, you've made your point, a logical response is beyond you!

Good day sir!

OLAADEGBU: "There is no such thing as sin. Death is just a natural conclusion to life. I can't see any punishment in death. Actually, eternal life would be punishment." Bjarte Bjørkum

Your "eternal life would be punishment" sure shows the futile existence of the atheist. Christians greatly value every precious moment of life and we look forward to the next, when God's Kingdom comes to the earth. When that happens there will be no more pain, disease, suffering, death, earthquakes, tornadoes, etc. We will have Eden on Earth. Please join us: www.needGod.com

In this "heaven on earth that you preach", will man retain the ability to reproduce? Did the bible make provisions for this?

OLAADEGBU: An atheist (in answer to a parachute analogy) said, "Except that planes and parachutes are real and God and the afterlife are not."

The truth is that you don't know if there is an afterlife. For this God-less world it’s the biggest of mysteries. But the Christian knows what happens when we die. We know because we have it from the highest Authority on this earth—God’s Word. It tells us that death is an appointment, and that after death we must face God in Judgment. That will be a fearful thing if you don’t have a Saviour. Every day more than 150,000 people die. Please seek God today. Every argument you have will be dismissed the moment you come to know Him. Take a few moments to humbly check out:

www.needGod.com

Ever heard of the fallacy called "appeal to authority"?
Do you seriously expect any logical minded person to believe what you wrote above, JUST because the bible says so?

What you're doing is like trying to explain something to someone, only that you're speaking Chinese and the other guy only understands English!