₦airaland Forum

sunky644:
Pls if you know nothing about a person kindly keep mute. You can search "Wahab Adegbenro" on Facebook to read what people are saying about him. Below is one of it:

Just like people praise M.K.O for his philanthropy, despite the fact that he got his wealth through nepotism and monopoly.
He privatised public funds, then disbursed it as he saw fit without public oversight. Now that he is gone, what will happen to that private hospital of his?
Had he implemented public health programs that saw to the well being of those disabled or disenfranchised individuals in the community, wouldn't the entire state be better for it?

We have to condemn all these "buje-budanu" politicians once and for all

sunky644:
All politicians are not heartless as we thought. Dr. Oluropo Wahab Adegbenro was never like them. He was a nice man, my family doctor, he took my delivery and the 1st philanthropist I ever get to know in my life. He treats patients freely in his hospital (Crown Hospital, Akure). Read the tribute I wrote for him below:

I HOPE YOU FINALLY MAKE HEAVEN DOC

Before and even when you were the Commissioner for Health, you did not have a personal Car. Once, I asked you, why? You replied "vanity upon vanity."

I was teasing him few months ago in his office that he now dresses really good, which I believe must have been because of meetings and official duties. Or, he doesn't wear anything fancy.

I really hope you make heaven, because sometimes I wonder if you went to College of Medicine, just for the less privileged. A doctor that will do free surgeries for the poor and still feed them before discharging them without collecting a penny?!

I can't stop asking myself or Dr Adegbenro anytime we had the opportunity to talk that, is it that you don't want the good things of life?
He'll reply by saying "God will provide for his needs."
I really hope you make heaven.

I remember when your colleagues were at loggerheads with you because Crown Hospital was more of a charity home than a hospital.

I remember my mum (of blessed memory) will always take any sick one among us in the car and tell daddy "let's head to Crown Hospital". Through out my growing days even from birth, I can't remember you requesting for a dime as the fee for the medical attention or treatment we got from your hospital. I hope you make heaven.

You were our first point of call when my mum was sick. You attended to her swiftly giving all your best at no cost before referring us to a Consultant. I remember your words then when I came back to thank you after her burial, you said "she's a friend, a club mate, your best friend's sister and that moreso you respect her cos she was a hardworking and submissive wife". I hope you make heaven.

I was with you in January to discuss full employment for my wife and I remember you promised to ensure it is done during the next phase of employment at Hospital Management Board or Ministry of Health. I hope you make heaven

I hope you make heaven, that will be my only consolation! It will simply mean that an angel returned to where he belongs.

I do really hope and pray you make heaven Wahab Adegbenro (Proud son of Ilara-mokin) !

Humanity just suffered a big blow!
May God almighty console his family and Ondo State.
Adieu Dr Oluropo Wahab Adegbenro (Ondo State Commissioner for Health).

I wish you make heaven
I pray you make heaven
You truly deserve to make heaven

#WahabAdegbenroLivesOn

#GbengaAdene

#SayYourMind

Even Evans the kidnapper will have people who will sing his praise when he dies.
Just because you are one of the few that benefited from his mostly stolen wealth does not make him a saint.
This man has held various political positions since 1999 but could not use his position to fight for better public health infrastructure.

It seems like this covid 19 is the ultimate equalizer

maishai:
Imagine after developing that place to what it is today. Men Nigerian Laws s bleeped

The dispute started about 13years ago. The church should have stopped all development activities on the land pending the outcome of case.
They only have themselves to blame.

WOW!!!
This is Nigeria's version of "searching for sugar man"!
I hope we succeed.
Please guys, don't give up.

gazilion:
I just remembered this song...I googled and found this..pls did you get any help on how to get it?

It's by Funmi Adams.
Can't remember the title though...

Evangelical Christians' support of trump is based on hate. They hate Muslims, they hate homosexuals, they hate catholic Latinos, they want to take away the rights of a woman to control her reproductive choices. They want a government that will abolish the separation of church and state. They want to bring the bible into the classroom.
On one hand, I hope they succeed. Because, once they've eliminated all the "undesirables", they'll start turning against each other.
The founding fathers separated church and state because of the sectarian violence in Europe, but these folks want to undo all that.
It's their funeral.

God didn't exist until man created him.

xboyelyusuf:
In my own opinion thou,Jon Snow has d most merciful killing compared to Ned,Robb and Cat...And a week before the last episode of season 5 it was said that a scene will play out that will be worst than The Red Wedding in Season3,...I knew it was the assassination Of Jon Snow..,but Mehn that Red Wedding scenario of Season 3 where Robb,Cat and Robb's pregnant wife were killed is the worst scene I've ever seen in my entire life.

I heard Arya stark is the author's wife's favourite character, so she's the only one I can stick out my neck for. As for others, it's Valar Morghulis!

I still haven't recovered from the manner in which jon snow was killed. I don't know why the author has to put the stark family through so much. Their deaths are ALWAYS too brutal.
I have a feeling that bran will be able to control at least one of the dragons one day.
Cerci's revenge against those religious fanatics will be awesome.
I'd rather binge watch everything when the season ends. I can't cope with the weekly suspense.
So, as soon as the show begins, I'll avoid this thread like a plague.
Can't have y'all spoiling it for me

The only reason you have so many christian scientists in the renaissance period was because the church had total control over the classical works of the Greeks and Romans. So, in order to have access to these works, you HAD to be a christian. Let's also remember that the value of the knowledge of these pagan societies was only made apparent to the christians AFTER the Muslims had used pagan discoveries to advance their societies.

salt1:
Got this from someone.
Don't know how true it is


EL-RUFAI NEW LAWS
* In Kaduna you cannot preach without license
* Every preacher will have to go and get ONLY one year
license (renewable every year). That is, you must always
preach without an expired license or you risk 2 years
imprisonment.
* If you invite any external preacher (i.e. preacher outside
kaduna state), such a person must be licensed for the
duration of his/her stay and the body issuing the license has
the right to reject external preacher they feel is not qualify
to preach in Kaduna state.
* Every preacher who want to be licensed will appear before
a screening committee. If he/she scales through, he/she will
only be given licensed for one year.
* The law criminalizes the use of CDS, Flash Drive and other
communication gadgets except in religious building or inside
your house.
* That means, you will be arrested for listening to preaching
or religious music inside your cars or in any open place
except in your house or religious building.
* If you preach without license, you are guilty of offense
punishable with 2 years imprisonment or a fine of 200,000.
You can’t use microphone in your church after 8pm you are
guilty of offense punishable with 2 years’ imprisonment or a
fine of 200,000.
* Since all preaching must be done within a building, it
means public evangelism will be criminalized. Those who
preach early morning, known by some as morning cry and
preaching inside bus if arrested will be fined N200,000.
* This could also means, people will not be allowed to go
out for evangelism on streets or move with vehicles with
address systems to advertise their programs.

With the history of destructive religious clashes in the state, I think these laws make perfect sense.

Keep it up El-Rufai. We need more leaders like you joor

macof:
u people feel so inferior but try to mask dat with senseless ego.

so now Portuguese and British are ur history keepers
wat do we expect when esogban doesn't even know the origin of his King

I don't blame them. Some of their greatest military conquests were aided by Portuguese mercenaries. They even have plaques celebrating them.
Compare that to Oyo's purely African badassry

I don't know why some Yorubas are falling for this fallacy orchestrated by the binis. The Benin explanation of oduduwa is a myth. This guy trekked from present day Benin all the way to Ife, ON HIS OWN. Nothing to trade with, just living off the land, I presume. Finally makes it to Ife, learns the Yoruba language and culture, then he is somehow crowned king? That sounds more like nollywood than reality to me. In reality, we can't find a SINGLE cultural practice in Ife that can be traced back to the edos. On the other hand, the name "Benin" (Ile ibinu), the title of the king (Oba), the art (bronze works), the Gods and even the architecture of the royal palace in present day Benin can be traced back to Ife. What did ekaladerhan bring to the table in Ife that made the natives crown his penniless and powerless as§, King? This is historical revisionism at it's peak! Somehow, the Benin obas were so afraid of yorubas, that they had to keep the history of their own people a secret for all these years? There are many towns in ondo state that were under the Benin empire, yet none of them can corroborate this story. However, the views I express here are for yorubas only! I think edo people are entitled to believe whatever they want.

Carry on! At least you have shown us that the Yoruba religion is not all sufficient for you. You have to start who.ring after the white man's god to seek validation.
Continue downgrading the gods of your ancestors.
It's no wonder that some ifa practitioners in USA are beginning to claim that ifa has nothing to do with Africa.
Soon the white people will repackage the ifa corpus, and these same "house Negros" will be kissing the "new" obatala's as§, with shoulder length blonde hair and blue eyes.
SMH

The guy is just a greedy hypocrite. The God of the christians had nothing to do with the prestige that comes with that title.
I wonder how our lost brothers in the Americas, who are trying to connect with the Gods of their ancestors are supposed to take this buffoon seriously?
What a waste!

CabbieAC:
The thing is the Baba Alado is just the powerful guy.I don't think he carries guns.The guy is a mystery lol

He's the Boss of those who carry guns.Some even said he's a cripple.

Lmfao!!!
I can't believe you've heard of baba alado. You're right, the guy is a mystery. Personally, I think he has a cut in all the taxes levied at road junctions and markets.
There was one small street in mushin that tried to overthrow him, he came back and wiped them out!
I think he did the thuggin himself when he was younger, but now he has underlings doing his bidding.
He's like Keyser söze in "the usual suspects" movie.

CabbieAC:
Onreflection, looking at the population of Yorubas in these countries,that's a potentially hhhuge market for our movie industry
Yoruba movie makers need to think outside the box

What have we been doing all these while

The arrival of home videos spelt doom for good Yoruba movies.
Back in the day, you had to go to the national theatre or at LTV8 and also at nta cinemas to watch any new movie. It was always a family thing back then, the cinema culture was alive among yorubas. Movie producers were guaranteed profit from their work. I'm sure the quality will have steadily improved.
Nollywood destroyed EVERYTHING!
SMH

superduperjay:
Any update on faleke issue?? Ordinarily that guy is the governor of kogi except he allows them wrestle him out of his right.

I think the igalas will make the state quite ungovernable for him.
The state is deeply tribalistic in nature...LOL

gidjah:
You re preTy correct bro, even their graduates that stayed with while in j'bourg seem to be the lazy ones too, save for some few ones I came across, the govt encourages them lazily too,this is an indelible stigma to our guys in africa,our naija guys should begin to try leave that country,I noticed deep hate for our progressive naija guys over there and had to warn our people while there, you can't marry their ladys else plenty trouble dey for you, thet will not mind setting you up just for envy sake !. Na only God go help our people for SA. Inittially it started with the hate against Naija but thank God the hate has spreaded let us see if the international communities will cometo rescue the matter. I sure know our own leaders over here in Baija are slow pokes and lazy and selfish , they won't do anything unless there is something to benefit!

LMAO @bolded.
Is that a reason to thank God?

johnydon22:
Nope atheism is just disbelief in any deity not belief in big bang or evolution, no deity brought the world to being but i certainly do not claim to know how it came to be...... Do you now get it? . . . Now next time do not assert or link atheism with evolution or big bang ok? Some christians or theist too believe in big bang and evolution theory and others dont.. e.g Pope Francis

I guess by the strict definition of the term, you can call yourself an atheist.
But since the foundation of your atheism is not built on science, I don't think there's any point in asking why you disagree with evolution or the big bang. It'll be a monumental waste of my time.

So, enjoy your day!

johnydon22:
Am sure you know most atheist dont believe evolution or big bang like myself.. We prefer to say "I don't know"

Then, the term that best describes your position is "agnosticism".

RexBrita:
@davidhume1
Ok. I won't associate atheism with a belief. But the some total of what u agree with, is what theists believe, provided you remove the cloak of personality traits associated with God (which, in my opinion, simply helps religion teach and relate with the complex abstraction that atheism often encounters)

Now you're telling me that theists agree with evolution, the big bang, absence of a hereafter etc?

You're STILL doing it dude!

RexBrita:
Yes of course I group them because every position has a belief. In your case, atheism, believes there is no God.

Nothing I wrote is a lie. Neither have I preached any religion. The thread represent a novel perspective. You seem bent on attacking just parts without due consideration to the whole.

Teach yours the way you understand it.

Stop associating "atheism" with "belief". You're just contradicting yourself.
You can hold a belief, as true, without requiring a single proof!
Therefore, atheists regard positions based on mere belief as "opinions", SIMPLE.
You're just trying to be mischievous. Atheists have NO beliefs. Our positions are based on VERIFIABLE FACTS.
Perhaps you didn't know this before, but now that you do, you should pls refrain from degrading atheism as "belief".
IT IS NOT!

Thanks.

striktlymi: My reasoning:

Abortion/support for it:

1) deprives another of its fundamental right to life.
2) is an abuse of freedom.
3) encourages the strong to prey on the weak.
4) shows irresponsibility.
5) etc

Please, tell us the name of your church and show us the structures already in place to take care of orphans and children who came from abusive or underprivileged homes.
Tell us how your pastor can sleep at night knowing there are countless numbers of destitute children roaming the streets of Nigeria!
Tell us how many destitute children you or your brethren have adopted till date!
Until then, please, save us your righteous B.S!
All you guys can do is to mouth values, but when it comes to ACTIONS you disappear.

PastorAIO: That 3rd voice of 'Oughtness' is more prone to saying, "Don't help him, his a muslim/pagan/jew and he ought to die". More times than not people have overridden their God given natural altruistic instincts and opted to obey the Nasty Evil voice of Oughtness.

What about the 3rd voice of Oughtness that says, "Listen to the first voice of Altruism because that was given to you to guide you in Love for your neighbours."

I'll take EMPATHY over OUGHTNESS anytime!

OLAADEGBU
C.S. Lewis put it this way: if a man sees another in danger, the first instinct is to rush to help (altruism). But a second voice intervenes and says, “No, don’t endanger yourself,” which is in keeping with self-preservation. But then a third voice comes into play and says, “No, you ought to help.” Where does that third voice come from, asks Lewis? This is what is referred to as the “ought-ness” of life. Morality is what people do, but ethics describe what people ought to do. And yes, people know what they ought to do, but that doesn’t mean that they always act according to that knowledge.

Lol
If you don't fear anything in life, i beg you in the name of all that is good to PLEASE fear the bolded in any religious person you come across!

That "ought-ness" has led to the death of over a hundred million native Americans, millions of jews in the dark ages, and several pagan communities all over Europe (directly or indirectly)!

My 2kobo !

If you're equating education to enlightenment, then YES, religion CAN hinder education.

Any form of thinking that makes you accept a proposition as fact without any form of solid proof will surely hinder education.

Religion has a way of getting your mind made up, even before you encounter an issue. Therefore you can't assess any issue without some bias.

Image123: You seem to be the one moving the goal post here. You are trying to introduce another thing without settling the one on ground. That is why you have always ended up confused. Do not expect to do things the same way and expect a different result. One step at a time man, one step
AT
A
TIME.

We've settled it already!
GOD IS NOT PERFECT!!!

Good day sir.

Deep Sight: Gbam! Gbammer ! ! Gbammest ! ! !

Honestly, the very self-defeating nature of these arguments being made here by these atheists, is surprising: even though what is more surprising is that they fail to see it.

Can you give me some examples of this objective morality and show how society can enforce it without the slightest hint of hypocrisy?
Thanks!

Image123: Yes, i am comparing them. We are created in His image.
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

You guys keep moving the goal post!
Here you say the creative process of man and God are the same because we're created in his image.
then later you'll say that God cannot be subjected to human ideas of morality when you guys are defending the genocide in the bible...smh

The Harbinger ~:
always try to understand what the bible says.
here is what the bible says in direct correlation with tribulations(tests) and heaven:

Revelation 7:9-12 I looked again. I saw a huge crowd, too huge to count. Everyone was there—all nations and tribes, all races and languages. And they were standing, dressed in white robes and waving palm branches, standing before the Throne and the Lamb and heartily singing:
Salvation to our God on his Throne! Salvation to the Lamb! All who were standing around the Throne—
...
13-14 Just then one of the Elders addressed me: "Who are these dressed in white robes, and where did they come from?" Taken aback, I said, "O Sir, I have no idea—but you must know."

15-17 Then he told me, "These are those who come from the great tribulation, and they've washed their robes, scrubbed them clean in the blood of the Lamb. That's why they're standing before God's Throne.

Thanks bro!
I'll just add this to my "list of bible contradictions"...

Image123: Errr, he was the test question. Your question should border on why Adam failed the test and why you are flunking the test, and how you can pass.

Why the test in the first place?
If he was such a perfect God, and he's sure of his creative abilities, why did he need to set up tests to verify?

Definitely, he knew that something might be wrong with his work. After seeing how woeful the experiment of Lucifer and co went.

But instead of owning up to his f*ck up, he deflects the blame to his miserable creation!
That is just low even by human standards!