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zleemshaddy:
itzokay , nw end ur joke

zleemshaddy:
abegi enuf wit ur pretence n stp joking abt it

zleemshaddy:
luk d both of u shuld jxt stp pretendin jare, i knw waht u 2 re up 2. .

Joshthefirst:
Have you come across any mutations that give advantageous benefits that occur in nature spontaneously?

zleemshaddy:
hope u knw pple daht wrote d bible were guided by the holy spirit wen writin it .

ROSSIKE:
Well, actually we do, but only in the form of Consciousness.

All appearances of form and physicality are optical and sensory ILLUSIONS.

Nothing is ''physical''. Not the ''planets'', not the Earth, not You, not your PC, and not your keyboard.

Whatever we call physical matter is composed of atoms, including our physical bodies.

Atoms are considered ''the building blocks of the physical universe''.

Yet, when examined with a powerful microscope, an atom is seen to comprise empty space.


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An Atom


The nucleus in the middle is actually very tiny in relation to the atom in reality, and was famously compared to a grain of sand in the middle of a cathedral. Even the nucleus itself has been found to be a mini-atom, ie, consisting of empty space.

Why then do we ''see'' and ''feel'' physical objects?

One reason is that what we ''see'' is really not what is there. (Or rather, is just one form of possibly billions of possible representations of what is there).

The world we see is only in existence at the back of our brain, where the electromagnetic signals picked up by our eyes, are converted into a dense 3D ''physical'' format, complete with colour and surround sound.

This is exactly the same way a TV decodes electromagnetic signals into a colourful, raucous football match, or blood-curdling gangster film.

Our bodies and brains are likewise, receivers, connected to a biological ''internet'', in which we receive and decode electromagnetic signals according to a uniform pre-determined format. Some believe the author of this format to be God, while others believe it to be a group of lower level intelligences.

If that format, or wavelength, were to be changed, we would decode those signals in an entirely different manner.


Much of what we call religion, magic, meditation, psychic power, juju, etc, are at base, attempts to override this format, or matrix - our limited five-sense straitjacket - and access other, more efficient methods of decoding reality, in order to influence/alter its physical, 3D manifestation.

Many thanks.

Xcapist:
Bro, I totally get you. I've used the same paradigm of thought in the past so believe me when I say I understand. You are still a christian and an "insider", I don't mean this in a condescending way but you show a deficit in understanding any view outside what you're accustomed to - your bible.

You should note this; I'm not the demon who's been released from the pits of hell to attack your faith , just a fellow journeyer on this trip called life trying to make sense of the experience. So I invite you to keep an open mind.

You've quoted some scriptural verses that present noble thoughts. But have you ever come across the horrendously ugly ones? Ones so horrendous that the can not have a place in today's modern world whether Christians want it or not. Will you ever consider stoning your own son to dead for being stubborn? Will you stone a girl to death because she was raped? Will you ever smash a baby to the world because god ask you to? Do you feel we should turn the other cheek on Boko Horam issue? It's all in your bible...

Bro, I think you're a tad prejudiced in your view of Muslims. Some of the best people I've met and contributed to my life are Muslim. They're not all terrorists. What will you say about the crusades, the witch hunts and even the contemporary genocide of Muslims by Christians in Central Africa? Christians are not innocent of these atrocities. I now believe we only have good people and bad people. Simple.

And it's obvious you've not met genuine spiritual people from other faiths. You are not them, you can't ascertain the genuineness of their experience since it's their experience not yours. How will you feel if I told your glossolalia (aka speaking in tongues) is fake without first experiencing it myself?

malvisguy212:
see my friend,it was clearly written that jesus is the spirit of God,which mean he prexisted right at the begining of creation but only as the spirit of the same God who created the world. Be sincer for once mr athiest.

malvisguy212:
the quran called jesus the spirit Of God, now what's the difference between spirit of God, son of God and Lord?

Surah 4:171:
“The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit from Him.”
The words used in Surah 4:171 are ruhun-minhu, “a Spirit from him.” Thus, the Qur’an clearly describes the human, Jesus, as a Spirit from God himself. With Jesus being the only exception, no humans are
ever depicted as such. However, no attempt is made to explain this
absolutely unique statement of belief in the Qur’an. Yet, the Qur’an
strongly supports the Christian belief that Jesus was a pre-existing
Spirit creature who took on a human form. Surah 4:171 presupposes that Jesus existed before he was conceived by a virgin-woman.

logicboy01:
I need God to commit public suicide.

That way, pastors wont be defrauding people with tithes in his name, imams wont be marrying underage girls in his name, terrorists wont be bombing people left and right in his name and religious bigotry in his name will stop.

It will also make the average nigerian, who is a religious bigot by the way, to stop and think for himself or herself and not waste away his or her life on the promises of some glorious heaven that religious leaders sell.


God, please die a slow and painful death.




Signed.
An Evangelical Atheist from the Church of Darwinism

Image123:
The answer is not straight forward. Okay, God's court says you reap what you sow. If you sow killing, you reap it. Copy? Where do you get your morals?

really...so innocent babies sowed killing......remember this is an alleged being you tag "just" and merciful to....
My morality is a secular one....and it is derived by mutual respect and care for the best interest of people to minimize or cease harm....with respect for peoples rights...

Joshthefirst:
You kept mentioning successive in your first paragraph. Do these successive beneficial processes occur spontaneously or not?

Where do you get your morals? So, you believe there should be payback, and people ought to reap what they sow?

davien:
I believe all disputes that cannot be solved mutually between two or more parties can be resolved through the court of law....any punishment given should affect the offenders given and/or accomplices if they are at the age of willful intent as ordained by the society with the exclusion of torture or death.....
I'm human....and that resolve above took me 20 seconds....

macof:
Lmao. True yarn o
Although I was never a staunch Christian, I once loved Jesus like I was gay
watching passion of Christ made me cry severely
Back then for you to tell me this Jesus was jst a dead and rotten Jew I would call u demon

Thanks to my ancestors that never left me, I regained my consciousness

egift:
1. The Rabi's debunking is on the implication of the statement and not like you who said the statement was not made.

2. Read my comments in the first page, I asked twice.

So let me ask for the last time: Davien, are you an Atheist? - Yes or No - (don't ignore it again)

egift:
Even on the Einstein quote, you were wrong by claiming he did not say it.

1. As I pointed out earlier, that quote was from an Einstein’s essay titled “Science and Religion,”. Published by Lesiker and Arnold V - St Cloud State University, in 1954. Whether you agree in his postulation or not, is up for debate and has been so since day one.

2. BTW, I have severally asked if you are an atheist, you refused to answer a simple Yes or No.

Image123:
I have not the faintest idea of any blood thirsty maniac who got mental help. Where do you get your morals? Do you believe there should be payback? Do you feel people should reap what they sow?

Image123:
bloodless heaven, i didn't smash anyone's baby on a stone. You're illogical to ask me to accept such offer of payback.

Image123:
In the new testament, we by grace pray for and bless our enemies, not because they deserve it. But because we have the grace. Nothing wrong with being rewarded as you have served others.

Image123:
You reap what you sow, its that simple, nothing sadistic about it.
The guy is different because Jesus is Lord, no other.

asalimpo:
@davien
you don't believe in witches,wizards,dragons, talking snakes.

Keep it in context.
Your goal is primarily to make d bible look ridiculous. That's ur goal.
Not to objectively arrive at a conclusion bothering on it's claims.
Proving, you decisions for atheism or against christianity ARE NOT LOGIC DRIVEN . Not being logical, debates ar smokescreens.
So y dont u and fellow atheists simply admit - u want to b atheist out of free will instead of outof,supposedly cold objectivism.

You accept a world emerging from a cosmic mistake!
Man being d only intelligent lifeform when this would b randomly implausible. You stomach it.
Take ur stance stop being a hypocrite.
Trying to b logical wen ur mind is closed to any other view.

Fyi,josephus documented and commented extensively on biblical events from the early OT stories to d crucifixion of christ etc.
Besides, they are many established bible commentators and historians.
You can't argue. You point is inadmissible.

U made a foolish comment about one usg a cell phone if there was a 4th dimension!
How is this a point?

The ridicule of dragons,talking snakes, talking donkies,
etc is meant to do wat?
Prove they aint real or the event didnt happen?

The goal is simply to cast the event in modern day light,
to make it look ridiculous.
But this doesnt address the issue of it being true or not.
Talking snake- a snake possessed and used by a foreign entity.
Dragon- another name for the devil. Described in the book of revelations and the war in heaven.
Again, explicitly implying a 4th dimension and a non physcal realm.
The figure of a dragon could b actual or symbolic.
Witches ,wizards - if u are in this world and ridiculing this than ur a hollow hypocrit.
Western worlds acknowledge witchcraft.
Halloween celebrates it.
Africa practices it.
It seems u just spewing without thinking,typical atheist ridicule.

kevoh:
. I give up on you guys and your brand of christianity! How sadistic can you be, all in the name of defending one's god?