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asalimpo:
i read your responses.
You didnt say anything cogent or logcal. Just empty sweeping statements.

"atheists telling you that they dont believe rubbish, and that you base ur life on rubbish ... "
when an atheist cant logically and objectively present his viewpoint ,this is wat u get.
Pathetic.
What is the definition of "rubbish" here?
Can you show by a logical deduction how a belief is "rubbish"?

You simply cant. You statements are nothing but emotional slush.
Yet u claim to b reason driven.

You made many hollow statements i wont even bother following up on.

asalimpo:
if u want a free theological education politely ask for one.
Stop critiquing wat u dont know even wen it's obvious you can know it.

Coming outta egypt , amalek attacked the children of Isreal without cause.
The people of Isreal were God's people. Get it?
He gave egypt as a ransom for them. Gettit.
U mess with God's people, you mess with God himself.
Amalek messed with God's people.
And when the time of judgement was right, God brought, judgement on them. They were to b obliterated off the face of d planet.
This was retribution.
This was justice.
This a hanging debt that had to be paid.
God is a God of love.
He is a God of Justice also.
Devil's tremble at the thought of him.
He is not a toothless bull dog.
He is also not a vengeful maniac.

Before egypt was laid waste pharoah was given the opportunity to let isreal go but didnt. God erased his first borns.
Egypt and Amalek attracted their judgement.

The dashing of d first borns,as grotesque as it seems, was very right.
The babylonians , chaldeans etc were a very wicked group of people in cludg being very perverse.
When God's judgement came upon them, even the little ones had to b killed-it was outright annihilation - why? because if not, those babies wud grow up in the steps of their fathers. Cruel evil and ultra perverse.

God raised isreal as a standard for the world around them to emulate . The nations around isreal were heathen nations,they had no brakes on perversion or evil.
The sacrificed their children in fire to their idols.
The were deeply into astrology, star gazing, etc
incest was normal
sleeping with animals was okay
homosexuality was rife
murder,like killing a man to get his wife, killing a man out in d field (like cain did) was nothing.
Rape and orgies - my o my.
That was fun.

This wasnt how God created Life to be. He erased the first human race in the flood.

He executed judgement on others as their sinfulness grew.
E.g smoking sodom and Gomorrah.
Y isnt he judging Man today?
He has placed man's sins on Jesus and judged Jesus as a substitute for man.
But after d rapture,the period of grace will end. God will judge the world.

asalimpo:
many historians spoke of Jesus as real. Your chief spokesman, dawkins,doesnt dispute the existence of Jesus.
Josephus wrote about the early church .
He obviously believed in Him.

Historians documented the arian controversy and its resolution by the council at nicea.

Grow up and stop being a petty arguer.

How many historical records of people who lived over 2 millenia ago are widespread or popular. Especially som1 who lived a short life,33years+, never travelled outta his home state.
Lived 30yrs in insignificance.
And wasnt royalty?

asalimpo:
If only the creator of this thread cud see the irony of it.

Sombody who doesnt know God
tries to convince another who does,that he,the theist, is believing wrongly!

How cud u possibly accomplish that.

The christian has an absolute and objective reference from which he
anchors his position: the bible

the Atheists has none.
Their best recourse for d
modern atheist is science and logic.
Science isnt absolute. It is still searchg and theorising and basically operating by trial and error.
Human systems and logic is likewise imperfect.
Yet it is the tool atheists use to lounge against the bible.
The imperfect vs the perfect.
The still-learning vs the concluded-canon. [/b]
yup....the christian has an absolute from the bible to;
kill homosexuals
kill people for being "witches"
have slaves
kill disobedient children
cure leprosy with the blood of birds
don't eat ham
permits racist behaviour

[quote]The atheist base their philosophy on an unfounded assumption.
1) the world is physcal, nothg more nothing less.
Every phenomena is physcal.
This is an article of faith to both atheists and scientists.
Atheists and scientists cannot prove this true. Or the opposite false.
They simply can't.
They simply choose to take a stand a believe tht all phenomena is physcal.
Havg taken tht stand they push to elevate to a truth.

The Bible on the other hand holds unambiguously that all phenomena isnt physcal.
The bible then gives plenty of glimpses and insights into the 4th dimension , which is a superset of this 3d world.

True bible believing christians believe this and see life from the 4th dimension perspective.

How then can an atheist convince
when he is operating from a different perspective than the christian?
By very nature,the fourth dimension isnt a physcal dimension, so cries to "prove it"
by the atheists,3d people, is inapplicable.
How dyu prove somthing immaterial? You can't.
So what dyu do- you BELIEVE IT.
that's y christians CHOOSE to believe.
If d fourth dimension is brought into d equation atheism and its arguments ar easily destroyed. [/b] again a black hole is fourth dimensional i believe the word you are looking for is that you have wishful thinking.....since you choose to believe the bible please keep it at that.....don't spread your disease....

The whole weight of atheism is simply on this stand of dimensionality.
3d or 4d.
Atheist push this speculation like it is absolute truth but if this stand is accepted, it leads to gaping questions?
Questions easily handled from the 4d perspective.
How did the world come about?
3d answer: it made it itself.
C'mon things don't make themselves.
Yeah,we (atheists) know this but the world made itself!
Why did it make itself?
We dont know. It just did.
But we do know it was A big mistake a cosmic accident.
Y is nt there another race of beings equal to man in intellect on the planet?
Uhm , i dont know. i guess thinking like a 4th dimensional black hole is why slavery should be endorsed...

While atheists ridicule christians and d bible.
One cant help but acknowledge the uncomfortable oddity the 3d argument of how d world began. because cosmology is mostly about mathematical models and theorems.....your belief is that the universe revolves round the earth....nice 4d thought

[quote]Eventually,atheists choose to believe som things without proof yet want to criticise christianity
from an entirely, materialistic 3d perspective.
The odor of hypocrisy fills d room on this.

egift:
@davien: You are an Atheist and very ashamed to admit and share your Testimony of Non-believe.

egift:
https://www.danielkolenda.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Blog_LIB9296-.jpg

@davien: You are an Atheist and very ashamed to admit and share your Testimony of Non-believe.

BTW, tell that woman they are just playing pranks on her. That she is actually seating and they are trying to make her feel she is standing.

FYI, the evident and existence of God in the life of a man is beyond his physical dispositions. It affects his soul, perception, morality, emotions, aspiration, dignity and more.

As I said before you lack self esteem and end up frustrated with life that you have joined the crowd of folks who do not care or believe anything. That my friend is being an Atheist.

egift:
Can you see who is running in circles now? There is no concrete fact you are putting up in this discussions. Also you act like Mr. Ostrich when confronted with issues to discuss.

egift:
First you have refuse taking a stand if or not you are an Atheist and how you came to that deplorable condition.

On your mockery, people who lived through those times where witnesses to these events. Landmarks are there till date to validate these records and for those of us alive today are witnesses to the existence of the supernatural. The sick are healed and medically certified okay. Lives are saved in a manner that defies all physical possibilities.

That you believe or not is you prerogative. But to wrap you mind round the inconsistencies of a vacuum, randomness, simplicity and a live in a void - is an evident of a carefree attitude that have no consideration for facts.

jmoore:
The picture you posted demonstrates atheists lack wisdom.

egift:
You my friend are the one deluding yourself. That quote is from Einstein’s essay titled “Science and Religion,”. By Lesiker, Arnold V - St Cloud State University, in 1954.

Whether you agree in his postulation or not, is up for debate and has been so for generations.

All Atheists I have met are very superstitious and parade wild claims they have not experience at all. At least for religion, people can attest for personal experiences of the supernatural in their lives and for centuries they are very extensive documentation on that.

jmoore:
Because atheists lack wisdom.

egift:
Most Atheists I have met are just some folks frustrated with live and are just care again. So they just take life as it is. Taking life as it. So for me to accept the inconsistent and half baked theories that once exposed to hard facts will not stand a chance. Some other Atheists just got mingling with deluded nonentities and before you know it, they will be spewing some outrageous clams they have no clue about. In fact I have met people spewing Science fictions as if they have been using the technology themselves.

Many so called Atheists are still very superstitious in life - forgetting that being an Atheist is not believing in any higher being and spirituality.

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein

KingEbukasBlog:
smh ... am done ... this is the most folly attempt by an atheist to disapprove or "logically explain" real life situations ... pathetic ....
Go and preach to the security men that are bribed at night and allow traders to bury charms and dance or bath naked at mid nihht and within a week those traders experience unexplainable increase in sales that there is no kind of power or God .... or that trader that was experiencing good reasonable sales , traveling in and out suddenly finds blood sprinkled at his doòr steps .... within a week his business folds mysteriously ... yh off course explain that LOGICALLY to him

NIGERIAN ATHEISTS !

go and live a real life ..and forget living on nairaland or the internet .... move abt ax questions in the market places ... LIVE A REAL LIFE





pathetic ...

KingEbukasBlog:
Mr atheist , who is the oldest man ever in the world

Methuselah he says ... I thought you dont believe folk tales

Mr atheist : ummmm

Mr atheist , how come u knw abt the Egyptians and Israel ites ... pharoahs , persia and babylon as a kid and they exist today if the bible was all folktales . Explain the prophesies ,,... their ways of life ... how they fought ìn battles etc .... oh sorry u knew all them facts from science books as a kid ...

atheism ---- denying the foundation of knowledge thereof

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KingEbukasBlog:
ppl have died as christians

leaving remarkly great lives if not the greatest .. even in your science world

... newton , galileo , pascal and more , their findings were even the basis of atheism .. and off course they did that in "bondage"

KingEbukasBlog:
hmmm ... but hw did apes come abt then .... they must have evolved from sth and that sth evolved from sth

please dave , lets make this more interesting

whats your take on blood money , explain logically why a human kills another human , the human has nothing tangible doing and the next week after the act he's smoking in money

whats your take on this - a cripple being able to work , the blind being able to see , a mad man roaming on the street , taken to a crusade and they become healed

what's your take on this - in a market place , there are what they called lines ie a linear arragement of shops , the shops are together.. you understand what I mean right ? a particular shop in the line will be patronized heavily , while the other shops in that same line experience little or no patronage ... they sell the same goods, even better ... yt ppl wish to stand and wait in line in that particular shop knowing full well other shops are more stock ed and have the same goods ... this happened overnight .... same tale with the popular mama put , same food , same taste , yeta particular mama put joint experience heavy patronage, ppl waiting in long lines ... others very little or nothing in weeks and months ... I sha hope understand where Im driving at ... so logically explain that

and more and more... this gadget wont let me tell u more

KingEbukasBlog:
mark 16 : 15 guides that ... what guides you ? reasoning ba? since its illogical for christians to persuade you into being one of us , isn't it also illogical that an atheist is sharing his "his belief" in a religion section

OLAADEGBU: If the theory of evolution has been peer reviewed by real scientists why has the fairytale remain a "theory" and not a scientific law?

I got more videoclips that debunks your dodgy dating methods. Check it out.

Here is a short videoclip that simplifies the issue of the carbon dating process.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwza37LRCOE

ken ham(your new "god"

KingEbukasBlog: Talking to my troll below in

Stewie Griffin's voice : -- off course it does , don't you see it does ... come on it does .. it logically explains life

Peter's voice : Come on Stewie it does , they are the intelligent ones , nothing explodes and begat something .. see it logically explains it

Stewie's voice : ah fat one , you joking right , yeeaah you caught me , you caught me there , didn't you .. you naughty fat one

KingEbukasBlog: Talking to my troll below in

Stewie Griffin's voice : -- off course it does , don't you see it does ... come on it does .. it logically explains life

Peter's voice : Come on Stewie it does , they are the intelligent ones , nothing explodes and begat something .. see it logically explains it

Stewie's voice : ah fat one , you joking right , you caught me there , didn't you .. you naughty fat one