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asalimpo:
you didnt ask ur parents to "prove" themselves to you did you?
You didnt ask your teachers/lecturers to present their certifcates to you?
You are no stranger to believg without physcal evidence.

41 000+ denominations. The basics information isnt confusg.
The bible is caterogically clear about d truth.

If its clear why are there over 41,000 interpretations all supported by the bible and most conflicting.....a particular set is the "church of christ" that follows that "miracles,god and others" no longer interact with us in the present day but did during "biblical times" to prove the word and now that we have the word....it is left to believe in...they also believe the earth and universe is 6000 years old....

Weah96:
But your ways are not his ways na. Hahaha.

A baby that dies of starvation in east Africa is not really dead. That baby is eating steak in heaven.

asalimpo:
yes

Image123:
This is a turn from what we're discussing, not a bad turn though. Without faith, it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God. That's like a constant in the spiritual equation. Faith is the way to God as it were, so if one wants to know God or "see" God as it were, or even understand God better, faith is it. Believing is seeing in that realm. If you can believe, you will see.

Dux01:
it is the whole purpose of it all.we were not made for our pleasure but for God's pleasure.to glorify Him.to worship Him.our life should be a worship song to him.if you made something don't you have the right to throw it away or destroy it with fire if it does not fulful it's purpose?the fact that you have that right means God follows that principle too since we were made in his image.He greatest desire is that ALL of his creatures share in his Holy Nature.It is the very essence of his Being and character.any thing that defileth is cast into the fire.He HAS THE RIGHT,davien,HE HAS THE RIGHT.if you were a creator and you loved something so much that you said that all your creatures should love that thing and be like you?what would you do if one of your creatures was always against that thing and wish you were dead so that he could do the opposite even though you corrected him all the time?

Image123:
Spontaneous generation is not how God did it. The bible records how God did it, by His power, by His Word, by His great might, by faith. Spontaneous generation is a dead and obsolete hypothesis, miracles are not. Spontaneous hypothesis allegedly have wrapped pieces of bread producing rats anything, anywhere. Decayed meat give birth to maggots. Those aren't miracle, The Red Sea doesn't part every other day. Neither does water turn into wine every weekend. Stop the folly.

asalimpo:
i've given a synpsis of wat actually happened.
My post was deleted on the thread anyway. It's a thread about which reality a person believes in and how has religion affected it-
the poster is an atheist .

Image123:
Perhaps you think wrongly a lot. Sticks don't always become snakes in the bible, that is not what the debunked spontaneous generation is about. You deceive yourself to even attempt that. How long and how far would you deceive yourself?

Dux01:
that is the real meaning of the christian race.slavery to righteousness and holiness with great eternal rewards

adepiero:
Fvcktard with idle ambition. you have a perfect religion where pastors impregnate and desecrate the church all in the name of worship. you worship humans like yourself, give them your hard earned money as tithe! they grow fat and you remain hungry. yet your foolish caged mind won't advice you to seek help. your religion is a scam!! and your leaders are thieves

alexis:
I exist whether I think or not - that doesn't prove consciousness. I know that I am black has nothing to do with consciousness either. My point is simple - the evidence of consciousness is subjective and is possibly not realistic either. To a scientist, it doesn't exist and can't be proven in a lab. So, if you use the standard of proving consciousness; you should know that I can use the same standard to prove God

asalimpo:
the girl strted paintg @ 4 and is self taught. How does skill transfer down from her ancestors?

2. She drew pictures of Jesus.
How does tht correlate with her artistc talent- does her arts skills make her religious?

3. Todd burpo, the child who saw heaven, testified tht her paintg of Jesus resembled the real Jesus. Other paintgs of Jesus didnt match. Todd was a child and had never met this girl neither.

LETS EVEN LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE.....IS ART AND DREAMS THE BEST EVIDENCES FOR "GOD" WHEN BILLIONS ARE DYING OF STARVATION IN AFRICA?....."OMNISCIENT DIETY" GIVES MOZART PRODIGY INSTEAD OF FOOD TO THE WORLD

Image123:
i'm not connected to a computer so i'm replying in paragraphs as against quoting. When i assured you of getting answers if you work hard and think hard, thatis simply another way of expressing a biblical and even general truth "seek and you shall find". It was not a call or promise by me to answer every irrelevant question you repeatedly ask me.

i would not oblige you in your quest about the supernatural at this time. That is your cup of tea, make do with the dictionary definitions.
Again, my point about millions of people is that you be more circumspect in dismissing other people's claims especially when so many are claiming same.
Miracles are real, people experience them all the time. i have also.
Living things come to be by reproduction. The spontaneous ish purports that living things come out of non living things, they just appear as a matter of course.

asalimpo:
If ur waitg for som1 to satisfy ur pesky notions of reality or prove reality accordg to some atheist/sceptic's criteria you'll wait till seun's grandson takes over nairaland.
God doesnt hav ur time.
You've never beyond a doubt proved that ur biological parents are REALLY your parents. Hav you?
Hav all atheists? No.
They and you, simply took your parents at their word .
They cudve been lying to u all these while , yet u didnt know.
If you took your parents for a test,the results cud b faked? How dyu know the testers didnt manipulate the result to decieve you?
You'd need to b in the same lab inspect the equipments urself,
before u'd satisfied beyond a doubt. And if,they were telling d truth,wen d results came what wud it prove? Tht you were better off(time and money wise) simply taking their word in d first place.

God has given His word in d bible. If u like believe Him if you like demand more - He maynt give you more. Besides,if u demand a dna test bf u believed ur parents theyd feel very insulted at ur doubt. Many wudnt submit to be tested.

adepiero:
No talk bad about Islam or Muslims again for you life.

SNCOQ3:
What you mean by the bolded is not even clear enough to make any sense.

Lets assume psychotherapists employ random imagery to achieve...whatever; Do they employ this random imagery in a controlled and orderly way or not? (Please also take cognizance that this random images are applied by intelligent minds for a purpose.)

SNCOQ3:
What you mean by the bolded is not even clear enough to make any sense.

Lets assume psychotherapists employ random imagery to achieve...whatever; Do they employ this random imagery in a controlled and orderly way or not? (Please also take cognizance that this random images are applied by intelligent minds for a purpose.) elaborate more please and define your terms so as that we can agree on your terms.....namely "controlled and orderly"

Image123:
We've not talked about verifying if a snake talked, have we? Are you opposed to thinking about what i tell you? You want to swallow hook, line and sinker? i want you to think as against making hasty generalizations, emotional outbursts, and moral fallacies which are common traits of unbelievers.

. If you stay through and think and work
hard, you get all the answers, that i can promise.

Whatever you see in the dictionary as the definition of supernatural is what supernatural is. Saying millions of people believe is to make you slow down and be more careful as against your dismissive attitude to theologicali matters. Take more time, patience, carefulness, open mindedness and wisdom before making assertive conclusions.

i don't know or care if Mo' flew to heaven. i wouldn't rule out the possibility hastily too. Out of the body experience is real and not limited to a particular religion or group. i can testify of miracles as i have seen a few. They happened to me and close people, so it's not "dem say" that i need to trace anywhere.

'Spontaneous generation', like living things NATURALLY being formed from non living things regularly or as a way of life? No, i don't believe it. Why, because i know how living things come to be.

SNCOQ3:
Guy, your argument don miss target. Unfortunately, you seem to relish your off-tangent trajectory...carry go

Mathematics in and of itself, is not science.

seek out pattern to what purpose?
formulate new conjecture from what? and for what purpose?

You are quoting wikipedia out of context. Any honest person who study the wiki page you linked will conclude that maths is a tool for science and other disciplines...you should stop being a joker.

Define pattern.

SNCOQ3:
Alright you agree its a language.. that is fine.

I am a Child of God that enjoys praying in tongues.

You said:

You went off-tangent with the above. My argument is not about "the nature of the language of mathematics " so you have not invalidated anything...lol.
Mathematics does not seek pattern, science does. Maths is the tool or the language(depending on the context).
by the way, pattern exist because order does.

SNCOQ3:
In an effort to refute mathematics a language, you unwittingly prove it a language albeit the long and tedious way.