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I mean this players havent played since Last week sunday

Bayern played this last Saturday sef

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Chamo how far, Starboard, Get band boys ready

I predict Arsenal will end up like Oscar Pistorius. Both legs lost and only a few shots on target

coogar: you must be a troglodyte then if that's what you think.....
ohhhh, wait a minute - is that the reason you were computing stats for torres? that torres has around 50% now means ba must also have the same? aunty dayo(cos you are a diva), how did you graduate from university? does it not occur to you that there were games where torres and ba were on the pitch together? southampton(away), torres came on for lampard and ba completed 90 mins. city(away), torres came on for mikel and ba completed 90 mins. ba has clearly spent less than half on the bench and more than half on the pitch.

You still fail
Torres and ba have been on the field together for less than 45mins all season

Try again

Demba ba has spent about 55% of the time on the pitch while Torres has spent 48% on the pitch

jackbauersballs: Dude you shame yourself, any school you may have attended, and your educational sponsors.

Chelsea have played 18 games since Ba joined.

Ba has only been eligible for 15 of those games.

out of the 15 games Ba was eligible to play, he played 13.

He has played 87% percent of all games he has been eligible for so far.

Out of these 13 games, he has started 9

He has started 70% of all games he has played.

He has started 60% percent of all games he has been eligible to play.

Oya answer me you consumate fool...Show me how Ba has been on the bench half the time!

Now I see I have been arguing with an illiterate.

I posted the raw minutes they played for You

Answer how many minutes Has Chelsea played in the league since Ba came, Same with League cup and FA cup

Ba has been eligible for 15 games which is 1350 minutes of those 1350 minutes Torres played in 638 of them

Calculate or ask someone who is more educated

So games Demba came in as a 89min sub counts as games played?

Raw minutes is the most accurate data to measure times played

coogar: what's the argument here?

The argument is that Demba Ba has been on the bench for almost Half of his Chelsea career in games he was eligible to play

I am waiting for him to prove me wrong so we can see who the fool is

jackbauersballs: You see why I said you are a fool?

Remember Ba is cup-tied in the Europa League.

So I will repeat myself. Dayo please answer my question.



Dayo you must answer o....

Demba is eligible in the FA cup, League cup and league

In that time

Torres has played 49% of league minutes, 50% of League cup minutes and 43% of FA cup minutes

Torres
League: 354 minutes out of 720mins = 49%
League cup: 90 out of 180 = 50%
FA Cup: 194 mins out of 450 = 43%

Total mins Torres has played 638 mins out of 1350 eligible minutes Which makes 47.2%

[size=14pt]Now who is the foool?[/size]

jackbauersballs: You Lie Dayo

Chelsea has played 15 games since Ba Joined

Ba played 13 of those games

He started 9 of those 13.

Ba has played 87% of the games he was eligible for.

Of those Eligible games, he has started 70% of them

Again I ask you Dayo...

How has he spent half the time on the Bench?

Numbers never lie!

Since Demba Ba joined Chelsea Torres has played 894 minutes

354 in the league 284 in Domestic cups and 270 in continental cups

Demba ba has played 754 minutes for Chelsea 390mins in the league 365 mins in domestic cup

Total Chelsea has played 720 league mins Torres has played 354 mins Can anyone calculate the percentage minutes Torres has played? 49%

How can anyone argue against figures laid out so openly

In the league cup Chelsea has played 180 minutes since january Torres has played 90 of those minutes. Can anyone punch the calculator to tell me how many percent is that? 50 %

coogar: like i have told you, papiss cisse does not have MAZACAR to boost his scoring prowess. it's irrelevant to bring cisse into this matter.

Torres has MAZACAR

354 mins = 0 goals

Ba = 389 min = 2 goals.

Tell us who has failed

coogar: no need to fight.....the young man has boxed you into a corner....

demba ba has 2 goals + 0 assist in 389 mins with the full strength of MAZACAR and the greatest chelsea midfielder(lampard)
sissoko has 3 goals + 3 assists in 528 mins as an attacking midfielder and substandard midfielders as team mates.....

question - has ba flopped at chelsea or not playing with world class midfielders?
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In the same time frame Papiss Demba Cisse a similar lone striker has played 720 minutes and scored how many goals 3

that is a big lie.
league mins spent is demba 389 - 354 torres.

Assuming what you post here is true

Demba 389 min = 2 goals

Torres 354 mins = 0 goals

WHo is the failure here?

jackbauersballs: Answer my question Dayo

If Ba has Started 9 out of 13 games he has played...How has he been on the bench HALF THE TIME?

In the same time frame Ba has been at chelsea Torres has started 10 games

Those are games Ba should be starting

Did you go to school at all? How many games has Chelsea played since January that Ba joined

Chelsea has played 18 games Since ba joined and he has started how many 9.

So where is he when he wasnt starting isnt he on the bench half the time?

jackbauersballs: You really are a big fool.

A massive fool.

Chelsea plays a lone striker.

Ba has appeared 13 times since he joined Chelsea.

He has started in 9 of those appearances.

He has started 70% of the all the games hes has been involved in.

So how has Ba been on the bench half the time Dayo?

You are stupidity defined.

Your DNA bears the source code for lunacy

You are really asking for it aint you? Cos I think you are still new around here I have tried to be civil in my response to you but here it goes out of the windows

coogar: the ret[color=#000000]a[/color]rds would only follow beer parlour opinions. why is ba excellent and torres poor? that's the question these charlatans cannot answer. we either agree both have been poor or both are excellent but being let down by a selfish midfield. demba has not improved chelsea's attack. lampard or mata are still the highest goal scorer @ chelsea. a certain sissoko(attacking midfielder) in newcastle has scored 3 league goals since ba joined chelsea.

How many minutes has Sisokko played since he joined How many minutes has Papiss cisse played and howmany minutes has Ba played

Only a full blown retardd like you would expect ba to score when he is on the bench more than half the time

coogar: he makes more sense than all the pro-ba crew put together.
[b]jackbauer has asked you to explain what makes ba excellent and torres poor. d[/b]emba ba is not pulling trees - he's as insipid as torres! it's obvious you tools would not agree ba is a poor striker cos he was scoring regularly at newcastle and agreeing he's poor at chelsea would put the blame on the midfield thus vindicating torres.

What makes Ba excellent 4 goals since january 2 league goals

What makes Torres Poor 1 goal since january 0 league goal

jackbauersballs: So what is Ba's excuse for having a similarly apalling shooting rate?

Stats do not lie...

Only a fool argues with numbers.

Ba doesnt have an appaling shot rate.

He has times 4 of Torres goals Where was he getting those goals if he wasnt taking shots and Why does Torres have 1 goal in the same time frame

Thats the key point

Torres played reading, Wigan, QPR Boro since january he cant get goals he cant even get shots and you are comparing this dud with Demba who has 4 goals already?

Are you kidding me?

jackbauersballs: Now this is just rubbish.

You have twisted and squirmed but you have not answered my question.

I ask you again:

Why was Torres getting such a meagre amount of chances at the inception of the MaZaCar project?

Simple question in simple English requiring a simple Answer and not bitter vituperation.

Simple because he wasnt making the necesary run a striker should be making to get chances. The same ailment that has bedevilled him since last season when there was no MAZACAR and they blames Kalou, Sturridge and Anelka

The same ailment that made him score 7 goals in 27 appearances for the best NT in football

jackbauersballs: Dayo you are a certifiable loon
3 of those goals came against Southampton - The 'tougher' opposition currently involved in a relegation battle.
The other goal was against Westbrom

In the last 13 games Ba has played and scored, he has started 9, so what are these fewer minutes you are talking about?

But Torres this same time has been playing vs Boro 2nd div, Startak, Steau, Wigan, Reading and QPR- Worse than Southampton and brom and still cant hit water when thrown off a boat

jackbauersballs: Dayo stop being obtuse...Out of thos 5, Ba had 6 shots in 1 game with 4 on target.

Remove that. and his stat is exactly the same - 6 shots, 3 on target.

That suggests that the game was 6 shots was an exception not the norm!

Why should we remove the game vs West brom? Ok if we do then we rate Demba in away games vs Man Utd, Newcastle abd man Citeh while we rate Torres in games vs Steau, 2nd division Boro and Sparta Prague at home

That sounds very logical to you right?

This means NOTHING...Ba started the game against Brentford and only registered 2 shots.

Only the piffest bud- No stems or seeds. If you come round North London, I can mos def hook you up!

You expect the same shot when a striker plays Man City and Man Utd away and another plays Boro and Steau?

A-40:
Ba 4 goals in 2013
Torres 1 goal in 2013

Yes the improvement is not significant indeed

In fewer minutes vs tougher opponents Demba has scored 4 goals Torres has scored Just 1 and we are to believe he isnt a significant improvement

Even though Ba got double of Torres shots and goals in his last 5 games

jackbauersballs: Couldn't say it better myself.

How would Torres get chances when he isnt in the position to get them?

How would he get chances when the chances he gets he cuts back?

How would he get chances when he lazes around the field

Demba that was getting chances from the same midfield, Was he bringing those chances from home?

The laptops don pick race

jackbauersballs: I'm not talking about Shots on target, I am talking about total shots.

Torres starts and has few shots- he is poor in spirit

Ba starts and has few shots - Is he poor in spirit as well? Is he also a cripple with 2 left feet?(LOL this cracked me up gaan! )
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False. I showed you the stats for both of them in their last 6 games -Torres has 11 while Ba has 10

Demba has more shots in the last 5 games than Torres

In the last 5 games Demba played for chelsea all competitions he had 12 shots 7 on target

In the last 5 games torres played for Chelsea all competition he has 6 shots total and 3 on target

Considering that Demba played 90 mins vs City a tough away game, 76 mins vs Man utd a tough away game . Torres in that time played 90mins vs Boro,and Steau

I believe Coogar has answered this

You also believe Drogba who won the CL for Chelsea by scoring from a solitary chance all game was squadering chances or Lukaku that played a total of 164 league mins was squadering chances too?

I need to know your weed supplier, He has some good shiit

coogar: drogba(chelsea)
lukaku(chelsea)

The same Didier Drogba who won the CL for Chelsea? Who in the CL final scored from a single shot on target? Pass the spiff to the left

Lukaku that played a total of 164 league minutes for Chelsea is now squadering chances? Abeg was it in the 164 substitute mins that he was squadering them>?

he would if he has selfless midfielders in liverpool laying it on a plate for him. suarez is the only striking outlet liverpool has got. he has 121 shots this season. i am sure its more than MAZACAR + torres put together.
https://cdn.eplindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Luis-Suarez-Goal-Attempts-Stats.png

The clip I showed you where lampard laid on the plate for Torres, Suarez, Demba, RvP would have scored those, what did Torres do with his? He "Cutback" lol

How can he get shots when all he is interested in is cutting back and keeping shekpe

coogar: plenty of them and suarez is not even an arrow head, he's a forward and all access leads to him. he hits the post more than any player in the league bar van persie - he gets assists from those as well.

the youtube link you keep wänking about is a cutback - i have shown you a similar clip with rooney doing the same for giggs. nando's reaction after the cut back seems to be gesturing to his team mate that the ball was laid on the plate for him.

Most of Liverpools corner kicks are taken by Gerrard, Most penalties by gerrard only direct freekicks are taken by Suarez and he doesnt lay it for anyone he shoots

OK Suarez gets assists from hitting the post, What stops Torres from getting such assists?

jackbauersballs: Dayo

How many times must I say Torres has obviously not been at his best?

How many times do you want me to repeat that ehn?

the thing you put up there can happen to ANYBODY as we well know, ad the fact that Torres squandered one chance does not mean he's getting regular supply.

The reason Torres doesnt get shots on target is because he is poor in spirit. he squaders everything. Attacking moves he ruins, Goal scoring opportunities he wastes. he cant do anything right. His movement are like a cripple with 2 left legs

how come Demba who has played in tougher games and fewer minutes have more shots on goal and more goals.

I disagree that the myriad of chances squadered by Torres in the last 2 yrs can happen to anyone

Tell me any striker in Europe who is as useles as Torres in the last 2 seasons

Retardeen is making the job of insecure9jearian more difficult by the day

coogar: suarez and rvp take set plays(corners, direct/indirect freekicks), 90% of their assists from set plays. nando torres copped those 8 assists from open play. can you now see the difference or should we break your head and put football analysis in your brain before sewing it up? why should a striker assist 8 goals from open play? why why why?

How many of Suarez set plays have been converted to goals

jackbauersballs: Stats from Last Year when MaZaCar was formed, and everything was 'In place'

Chelsea v Mancity - Community Shield - 0 shots from Torres
Chelsea v Wigan - Prm -only 1 shot from Torres
Chelsea v Newcastle -Prm- only 1 shot from Torres

I could go on....

Again I ask...Is the meagre amount of shots taken down to Torres's incompetence?

Or is he being malnourished?

You tell me.

You saw the clip I posted yesterday? The one coogar said was a "cutback"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqLnwjbavgQ

Now tell me why Torres didnt get the shot. Was it the midfielders fault that Torres couldnt get a goal, Lampard an assist or at worst Torres a shot on target

I-B.:
I don't know where these people are getting their statistics from.
Where I school in Lagos, in a department of 30+ we had only 2 igbo, one from Abia and the other from Imo. The Northerners we had were even more than the Igbos, two from Kaduna and the other from Nasarawa. The zone with the highest number of students behind the southwesterners is the Southsouth zone, with one from Cross-river, one from Akwa-Ibom, one from Bayelsa, two from Edo and two from Delta(1 Itsekiri & 1 Urobo may be). Then left with the Yorubas, in a place like Lagos they claimed they dominated.

They have forgotten that schools located in SouthWest have a quota which they must admit from the state hosting them. UI, OAU, Unilorin, Unilag, Lauthec and the rest admits 30% if I am correct of the indigenous students. Other 70% are left for outsiders with other SouthWest States included. How come Igbos admitted can now be more than 20%? I doubt if igbos admitted in any Southwest federal and state universities can be up to 10%. Southwest private instituions may be a bit higher though, which even the Yorubas admitted can't be less than 65%.

Leave them make dem dey delude themselves.

Ibo 40% in the same Ife I went to or UI?

Some people need to be lobotomized

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