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chukwudi44: The level of ignorance displayed on this thread is quite nauseating.people are here counting states as if we are operating the american electoral system.All nigeria requires is majority of total votes cast provided you score 25% in @ least 24 states.A candidate can win in majority of the states and still loose the elections.All this talk of any zone been more important than the other is rubbish.
@dayoanku

I hope kadunna is not among your 19 states which you are giving to buhari

The tone of the election will be

SE/SS/MB vs NW/NE/SW zone wise it is balanced but who will win majority of the votes will carry the day.

Talking about majority of the votes we all know that the population of hausas/yorubas in the SS/SE is negligible compared to the population of igbos/SS in the yoruba and hausa states.we all saw that pattern in the last elections.

Buhari was winning 50-60% while Jonathan was winning 80-90%

In 2011 Buhari won in kaduna despite that Jonathan VP was from Kaduna

Where do you call Middle belt? the way some Nigerians shout Middle Belt. Do you realise places like Niger State, Nasarawa are in the Middle belt?

On this forum someone was saying that North doesnt allow Middle Belt to rule

yet the so called Middle belt has produced the president more than any region

Gowon - Plateau -9yrs, IBB Niger - 8yrs AbdulSalam - 1yr total 18yrs

Whereas the NE hasnt produced any in the last 45yrs

adabeke12: Is that wat ur girlfriend does? Nd by the aint u a tribalist? If u r, u need to get out of my thread.

Tribalist? whats that? maybe you are mixing me with someone else. Get out of your thread onto your bed is a very great idea

adabeke12: Lmao. If dats wat u will do then hey be my guest. I will remain the same ada or even better if men were to go extinct.

How come you change your voice tone, you wiggle your hips more, suck in your tummy, catwalk etc when you notice men around

while with your fellow females you assume your agbero voice, belch loudly, fart indiscriminately and walk like Obasanjo

Eziachi: Wow! this doesn't sound like you. What happened? I knew you got it in you but only a victim of been ethnimatized ( ) by Nairaland.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the OP but at the minimum he should have fact and stats to back it up and not expect us to just believe it because he typed it

Who has more goals Hazard or Ba?

Please clarify what you mean, Are you asking of Ba Newcastle + Chelsea or you expect Demba Ba to have scored more goals than hazard in 2 months at Chelsea?

Torres has a Champions league medal just like Djimi Traore, Ryan bertrand, Oshea. Only that he was useless in winning it

Winning for some players is just being at the right place you dont even have to do anything like torres. Pepe Reina has 2 Euros, 1 World cup without a single minute of action. I bet to you Thats success

How can Cazorla be Arsenals attacking outlet, have you been watching games?

Tiki taka Spain is not Torres Style, Chelsea is not Torres style So whats his Style? GANGNAM Style?

looplat: Ibos are always happy to join the bandwagon and declare their region as an oil producing but Ondo state alone produces more oil than the whole of SE and ethnic Ibos in the SS. Edo state also produces more oil than the SE, so why are Ibos always shouting about oil?

We all know that the oil producing areas of both Rivers and Akwa Ibom are not ethnically Ibo. It's time to expose the Ibo myth in Delta state.

The oil producing local government areas are in Delta state are: Warri North and South, Burutu, Isoko North and South, Ughelli North and South, Okpe, Ethiope East and West, Sapele and Ndokwa East and West. Ndokwa people migrated from Benin according to this history and they are no Ibos. The remaining local governments are occupied by Urhobo, Isoko, Itsekiri and Izon.

Ibos where is your oyel?

Where did you get the stats and figures that Ondo state and Edo state produce more oyel than SE

Eziachi: You voted OBJ in 2003, he was neither recognised or respected in Yoruba, but simply because he is one of you, and even willing to sacrifice AD in the process.
Got nothing to do with your so-called brilliance of Fashola you will make us to believe, just that Yoruba only votes their tribes men only in Nigerian national elections. Its no secret.

But they didnt vote a ticket with Bakare or Fola Adeola in 2011 why?

Because those are not Politicians and people on the street barely know these guys compared to a Fashola who is popular and well loved

And where did you see "brilliance of Fashola" in my post? Does being "popular and respected" = Brilliant?

coogar: you are missing "league" goals or are you blind?.

Show us where you typed league goals or show us how hazard has scored more "league" goals than Demba Ba

Eziachi: Not actually the fact about the SW vote, because last time there vote was irrelevant to the outcome of the election. Unless there is a SW name on the ticket, because its a known fact that Yorubas never vote for anyone in Nigerian national election except one of their kind. That is why in 2011, they are as good as boycotting the election.

Thats why Buhari including FASHOLA a recognised and respected Yoruba unlike the Bakare and Fola Adeola might be the trump card

Eziachi: Totally agreed with you. Especially If he is to fall out with the likes Lamido, Babangida Aliyu and others who helped rig and delivered the northern votes last time, he is a gonner.
Then the only alternative is to rig the election, which won't be easy in the north without the northern elite.

And for those even thinking of such a thing as Igbo presidency (if there is ever such a thing) must not forget that the biggest obstacle to the so-called Igbo presidency ever is Jonathan 2015.

PDP has noticed this too. The last thing OBJ, Atiku, Anenih etc want is to lose power. I mean with an opposition in power. See how irrelevant OBJ is in his hometown just because of Tinubu, Imagine if he doesnt have any Federal power to rely on. he would rather die the next day.

PDP top shots know this APC thing might work if Buhari and Tinubu ally together thats why they are trying to nip it in the bud

Their way is to kick out GEJ and replace him with Lamido-Amaechi at the convention. Should GEJ be the PDP nominee. then all hopes would be on GEJ to retain the seat

I have a feeling that on the election Night OBJ, Atiku, IBB, Anenih would be "monitoring events" from their abroad homes and ready to file asylum papers like Dikko wherever they are. They would rather have a foreigner rule than have Buhari there

CFCfan: @Dayokanu: Based on the current reality, if Fashola is on the ticket in 2015, the APC would win in at least, 5 of the 6 SW states.

Ondo State may go for the PDP, due to the fact that Mimiko is a staunch ally of GEJ and the PDP at the National level.

If fashola is on the ticket its almost certain to win at least 5 SW states.

because Fashola is the most Popular politician in the SW and almost top 5 in Nigeria.

he is loved by many Yoruba people and the face of ACN currently

Katsumoto: And how is GEJ going to garner 1/4 of the votes cast in 24 states? It is looking increasingly impossible for GEJ to win in 2015. No amount of 100% returns for GEJ in the SS/SS will give him victory.

For GEJ to think of winning, he has to up his game considerably. So far he has failed and the whole world is watching.

Kats, I think GEJ would get over 25% in over 30 states but not enough to win. PDP has structures in all 36 states and he would be the incumbent president with incumbent powers.

Last election he got over 25% in over 30 states

coogar: since ba's arrival at chelsea, mata, hazard and lampard have all scored more goals than demba ba. i ask again, how has he improved chelsea? is it that dayo is a rētard or what?

Show us How Hazard and Mata has scored more goals than Demba Ba since he got to Chelsea

How would Demba Ba improve Chelsea when Fernandud still occupies the Space. Give Demba ba the run of 20 games Torres had and I tell you their position and goal returns would be better.

I am sure Chelsea has scored more goals in Games Demba ba started than in games Torres started since january 4

jackbauersballs: Name one other club where the midfielders have more goals than the actual strikers.

Spurs, Arsenal you need more?

I don't understand this rubbish...Torres has not been successful for Spain since 2010? The same Torres that won Golden Boot at Euro 2012 with three goals and one assist, having played fewer minutes than Mario Gomez, who also had three goals and one assist?

Succes to you is 7 goals in 27 games for a Spanish NT striker?

Now let me tell you something about Spain and Barcelona - they are the most DEFENSIVE sides known to man - Very conservative with passing and play a style known as Defending by Possession. Torres is a poacher - The poacher thrives on the through ball.

Spain/Barca are more likely to complete 20 short passes before launching one through ball - Torres is more of a Counter Attacking sort of player.

In this same system David Villa has scored bucketload of goals before the leg breaking incident. How is David Villa able to do it and Torres a complete failure at it.

Are you talking about the same Torres that scored the winning goal against Barca last season and won the Champion's league with Chelsea? That same Torres?

Minus Torres goal Chelsea would still have qualified so thats not the winning goal, Ramires was. Won Champions league? Playing what role? He was as useless as anything in the CL run. When we are talking of people who won the CL forr Chelsea King Drogba, Cech, Lampard, Cashley, Ramires, Mikel, Luiz, Terry, Ivanovic, Mata etc not Torres, Kalou or bertrand

Since we are asking nonsense questions, How has Hazard scored more than Ba in the same team?

Show us how Hazard has scored more than Demba Ba in the same team, I forgave you for the earlier Falcao and Ronaldo assist dont push your luck too far.

CFCfan: Yeah, the SW will be the 'swing' geo-political zone in the next election. The SW might just give the Presidency to the CPC if Fashola is on the ticket. Right now, the South-west PDP is in disarray, and is almost dead too. But things could change quickly by next year or in 2015.

Yes

Currently we can say Buhari has NW and NE, = total 13 states

Jonathan has SS and SE total 11 states

Buhari needs just 6 states more to get over 50% of states. Jonathan needs 8 states.

SW = 6 states, NC = 6 states

NC are so diverse its difficult to predict

While Christians dominate Benue and Plateau, Moslems are the majority in Nasarawa Niger.
Kwara has a slight Moslem majority might share in the Moslem and Part Yoruba solidarity, Same with Kogi

ACN control 5 of these 6 states, An important Yorubaman on the ticket of one of them might be key. The whole ACN paparazzi behind the candidate in the SW might be key

I think what would happen is either Jonathan tries to buy Tinubu like in 2011, Bullies ACN or PDP flood ridiculous money into the SW before the elction

As it stand Jonathan doesnt need to campaign in SE and SS likewise Buhari in NW and NE

rhymz: which Part of the Middle belt are you reffering to bros?

in 2011 elections despite that ACN and CPC were separate

Buhari won 40% in Nasarawa, 34% in Taraba, 25% in Plateau, 23% in Kogi, 20% in Kwara, 37% in Adamawa, (10% in Benue with ACN winning 21% of Benue)

http://nigeriaelections.org/presidential.php

CFCfan: The bolded is possible. I know that the APC has a strong folowing in the Middle Belt states; so the APC candidate has a good chance of winning the election.

The only thing between Buhari and an election win is the 6 SW states not the SE or the SS.

You can now see that the SE and SS can still give their 100% votes to Jonathan and still lose the election.

The trump card lies in how the SW votes.

Would the SW ignore a Ticket that has Fashola on it and vote for the PDP who we no send and who doesnt send us

coogar: except that he does not - if he's doing so how come ba has no european standard of a goal assist in 2000+ league mins of football and the "inferior" torres has 4?

Since january Ba has 2 league goals Torres has 0. All season Ba has 15 league goals Torres has less than half of that

Strikers job is to score goals and Torres has failed miserably at it.

when you do something twice, it's no fluke.
torres had 2 stellar seasons for liverpool - 07/08 and 09/10. i dunno where you got your 08/09 and this fool would soon say he knows european football like the back of his hand.

2 stellar season in a career of more than a decade? He has only scored more than 15 league goals twice in his whole career as a top striker in 3 clubs two different countries

he bagged a golden boot with those 7 goals - ahead of ronaldo, rooney, gomez, mandzukic, benzema, van persie, etc how did he achieve that?

The same way Milan baros bagged one and Oleg Salenko bagged one

short spell? 8 weeks is a short spell?
3 of those goals were against southampton - the other one against west brom! chelsea didn't sign ba to score against weak teams. where's ba when tough opposition play chelsea?

Torres played severl relegation teams he couldnt score. Ba scored against West brom the team 8th in the league table. Weak team? the same team that beat Chelsea how many times in the last 2 seasons?

he did nothing - torres influences the game far more than ba!
ba is not an improvement on torres. in the hierarchy of strikers in chelsea, ba is the last with lukaku occupying a distant 2nd position from nando torres.

I am sure Torres would be laughing at you. Torres 7 league goals is better than Demba Ba 15 league goals and Lukaku 13 goals.

Surely Torres is better

Look in the mirror Im sure your image would be laughing at your stupidity

CFCfan: Are u sure he (Buhari) is going to garner at least 1/4 of the votes cast in 24 states? Remember that the SS and SE have a combined 11 states in total.

If Buhari wins in 19 states that means he already has over 25% in those states. That means he needs 25% in 5 more states

In nasarawa, Kogi, Kwara, Taraba, Plateau, Benue, FCT and possibly Edo he would get 25% of votes

jackbauersballs: Dayo I'm sure you can read...

Now listen, The reason why Falcao has such a phenomenal goal rate is because he is the main goal outlet for his team. The team is built around him. As such he is not mandated to create goals for his team mates. Mind this is not saying he does not offer more than goals - He occupies Defenders and draws them out to create space for his team mates.

This is exactly the same thing Demba Ba does and even did yesterday watch both Chelsea goals and tell me Demba ba didnt play a huge part in them.

Torres by default is that kind of player. He naturally sits on the shoulder of the last defender waiting for the through ball. At Chelsea he is NOT the main goal outlet. Neither is Ba. They are both part of an Ensemble cast - And it is hurting both of them as they are used to being the main outlets.

Chelsea style is messing up these guys for real.

Why is Torres not delivering for Spain since 2010? Is it Chelsea thats also the problem with Spain? Torres has always been a mediocre striker, Most people are stuck with a romantic idea and dont want to give it up In this case assuming Torres is able, the fact is he had a fluke 2008-2009 and has returned to his old self.

in the last 3 years he has failed for club and country. 7 goals in 27 appearance for country the most creative football nation alive is a disaster.

Show us where Torres has been succesful in the last 3 yrs. Ba in his short spell at Chelsea has 4 goals , 2 in the league Torres in the same time as Demba Ba has one solitary goal vs Brentford. how does Demba ba score and Torres cant in the same team?

Note: Assisting is not all about delivering the final ball, Falcao/Ronaldo and the Old Torres have very often initialized a goal scoring move.

Demba Ba does this regular, still did less than 24hrs ago

coogar: what a tool - how did you deduce i was referring to his ronaldo stats when i said he is making sense? i said that even before that particular post. his stats might have been quoted wrongly but his point still stands.

falcao has not assisted much but he's scoring loads of goals. ronaldo too is doing the business in scoring and often assisting. ba is doing neither - not assisting at all and not scoring many as well.

In 2000 league minutes played this season Demba Ba has scored 15 goals.

No one is saying he is a Ronaldo or a Falcao but surely world better than fernandud.

Ronaldo and falcao are in this discussion because someone told us Scoring has the same weight as assists and I asked why is Gerrard and Podolski not rated as Van persie and Suarez or why is Iniesta and Ozil not rated as Ronaldo and Falcao

On the President’s argument that amnesty cannot be granted to ”ghosts”, ACN said he simply missed the mark.

”If the President claims that Boko Haram members are ghosts, who then are the members of Boko Haram that the JTF regularly claims to have arrested or killed? Does it mean the 52 Boko Haram members that the JTF claimed to have killed, in its latest press release dated March 9th 2013, are actually ghosts?

”What about the Boko Haram members that are being tried in court? Could the government have been trying ghosts?
And what about those Boko Haram members who were declared wanted last year? Are they also ghosts? Also, the government’s spokesmen have said publicly that the government is talking with Boko Haram through back-channels.
So the Jonathan Administration has indeed been talking to ghosts?

”Mr. President, there is nowhere in the world where insurgents have erected a headquarters building and put up a sign
to say ‘we are insurgents, come and get us.’ By their nature, insurgents don’t engage in amarch past, displaying their
weapons. That is why intermediaries are usedto reach out to them,” the party said.

Since our president retardeen Jonathan said Boko Haram are Ghosts, then Have they been trying Ghosts in court? have they been killing Ghosts?

4llerbuntu: @Dayokanu, Arsenal is going to beat you 4 goals to 1

im telling you, it will be like feem trick

Shut down your PS3 and watch live TV. Last scores Arsenal 1 Bayern 3 at Emirates

Pataki: No Boateng, no scarface, and you are asking for a bet? Dude, you must be drunk with Bavaria beer at this time of the day!

I would rather hold a bet when the real Bavaria Munshyte team that has the twenty points lead gap in the 'burn-this-league-down' is facing Arsenal.

Save your bet. Trust me, you would have recourse to be grateful after the match!

We didnt need them to rub your faces in the mud at the Emirates 3 weeks ago. WHy should we need them now

coogar: are you stüpid? i said if you used the continental standard, ba has no assists this season for either newcastle or chelsea.

Asking if you are stuupid is asking the obvious. To the same person that Ronaldos 28 league assists made sense to. LOL

jackbauersballs: See post above.

Which post above? And How does this prove your claim that Ronaldo has 28 assists or that Falcao and Ronaldo do anything other than score goals?

coogar: but demba ba has zero assists if you use the standard used in la liga to compute ba's stats on assist. ronaldo and falcao have assisted, ba hasn't in 2000+ league minutes - it's a crying shame!

Sorry Demba Ba has 3 league assists for newcastle

jackbauersballs: I cant start editing screenies cos i'm at work but check these link from the La liga website:

http://www.lfp.es/Temporada/fichaclubjugador.aspx?cjo=14937&ceo=186

http://www.lfp.es/Temporada/fichaclubjugador.aspx?cjo=48847&ceo=175

Now unless I misunderstand what International Shot Assists mean, these are the Accurate stats.

I am sure you misunderstand

Ronaldo has 6 league assists all season In games vs Mallorca, Athletico, Esponyol, Valencia, Sevilla and Deportivo

Falcao has 1 league assist all season in the game vs Levante the first game of the season

So with this correction can you now tell what else Falcao and Ronaldo contribute other than goals scored

Ribery with a ligament injury out of the Arsenal match

Schweinsteiger out Ribery out, Boateng out

We are trying to make this match competitive unlike the first leg

So any brave GAYYNEr in the house

$200 bet Bayern still beats Arsenal despite having 3 key players injured and out, Arsenal having rested for the weekened and most importantly

Arsenal being on a 10 day unbeaten run coming to the game

Any takers?

Pataki are you bold enough?

Ribery with a ligament injury out of the Arsenal match

Schweinsteiger out Ribery out

We are trying to make this match competitive

Afam4eva: Next time use the report button and i'm not the only mod here. You can do the reporting without copying me.

The reporting here is so that everyone would see how you handle your folks with kid gloves when they violate the same law set by you

coogar: this jack bauer dude is making so much sense - dayo is a complete halfwit. people were praising carrick's pass to chicharito last night against chelsea. the header was basic - chicharito knew cech was off his line so he looped the ball towards the net - the assist of that goal was well worthier than the goal itself.

Ronaldo 28 league assist and Falcao 8 league assist make sense to you?

Why am I not surprised. Everything would make sense to a turd. I am sure sleeping nakked in The Northpole makes sense to you

jackbauersballs: Lol is this a Joke?

Ronaldo has 28 assists in 26 league games this season. His Movement opens up space and occupies defenders.

Falcoa has 8 assists in 24 league games this season. Agreed this is not a mind blowing statistic, but 8 created goals from the man who is supposed to finish them is quite impressive.

LOL the joke is on the other side.

Show me where Ronaldo has 28 league assists this season? How many goals does he have sef?

Falcao 8 league asists? Are we talking about la Liga or PS3 and Xbox football?

Bros what time is it where you dey now?

These are stats I expect from serial liars like coogar not you. No fall my hand oo