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samted:
compared to the likes of sumerian and akkadian and mesopotamian, greek is a modern language. thats why i said "in a sense". learn to read and understand first before u reply

lo sun

onetrack:
Just follow the link and look for yourself, there are dozens of hadiths. And the last hadith is on the same link.

SMH.. ain't get time.. no b today we don dey see fake hadith and Quran verses from Christian

plappville:
Salvation is from the Jews not the Arabs my dear. Jesus is a Jew. In his name you will be saved. In his name tbere is healing, in his name chains are broken. Jesus was dead and rose again.He is alive again. Only the living God can give life. It is only Through Jesus you can be saved not Muhammad. This Arabia self claimed prophet was dead and rot in his grave like every human. He cant save you. Jesus is alive.


John 4:22 ►
You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we (Jews)worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews

He is still telling the arabs and thie likes today."You arabs worship what you do not know".....

tell me where in Bible Jesus said there's healing and stuffs in his name? Jesus isn't the first human to be lifted up to Allah.. even Bible confirms that Jesus isn't crucified

plappville:
Leave media out of this please. We know the jihad that is carried out by Allah's army....see them in the picture. ..

fool of life

glossy6:
Media ni media ko?
Yet shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free

fool of life.. it's like you asking what is physics from a banking student.. ain't you really a fool?

cckris:
1. Mohammed
2. Usman dan Fodio, this one even overthrow & seize African territories.
History is against you.

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tell me where in Bible Jesus said he died for your sins...





and prove to me that the site that translated Aramaic Bible into English is anti Christian site

Jidalli007:
In the name of Jesus every knee shall bow and all tongues shall confess. so long I call Him and He answers. Bros leave trash for LAWMA




Na Jesus tell you that? abi na people wey never see Jesus that wrote bible?

CoolUsername:
Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same god.


nah.. Christians worship Jesus..

analice107:
I can't waste my time on you further.
The killing of Christians all the world by muslims is political eh?
What kind of a person are you? . You are worse than a terrorist with a bomb.
So Allah has light to shed? Allah is Satan and Satan is the Prince of darkness.


your god jesus called God Allah.. keep insulting your creator.. tell me just 1 christian populated country or area that has suffered terrorism..

O ya.. explain and site example of Christians that Muslim are killing all over the World.. and show Quranic verses to support your claim..

CoolUsername:
Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same god.

analice107:
I can't waste my time on you further.
The killing of Christians all the world by muslims is political eh?
What kind of a person are you? . You are worse than a terrorist with a bomb.
So Allah has light to shed? Allah is Satan and Satan is the Prince of darkness.

O ya.. explain and site example of Christians that Muslim are killing all over the World.. and show Quranic verses to support your claim..

analice107:
I can't waste my time on you further.
The killing of Christians all the world by muslims is political eh?
What kind of a person are you? . You are worse than a terrorist with a bomb.
So Allah has light to shed? Allah is Satan and Satan is the Prince of darkness.

O ya.. explain and site example of Christians that Muslim are killing all over the World.. and show Quranic verses to support your claim..

JackBizzle:
Yawn. Rilwayne01, Vedaxcool, Empiree.

Why do you guys always tell lies about your religion?

Are there not dual meanings of Jihad? One is the inner struggle to understand islam and the other is outer struggle-



Wiki-

you are definition of foolishness... you asking wiki about Islam.. Quran and Hadith are there you don't ask them... chai..

Maamin:
Stop all these lies!!!...Quran and media says jihad means war, killing of infidels to propagate the course of allah.

laughing... quote Quran verse that said jihad means war... why is accepting the truth about Islam and revert to Islam so hard for you people... Chai..

parisbookaddict:
Mr muslim listen very carefully let me educate ur on this topic and get u out of (ur perhaps intentional or unintentional) ignorance.



Really, a lot of people know Jesus spoke;
1. aramaic (since it was popular at the time),
2. Hebrew (the language of his people the Jews and old testament scriptures he read),
3. Greek (because the Jews lived under Roman authority) 4. and even possibly Latin(because Romans spoke it at well at the time).


Did u know that Mr muslim




Once again u are wrong. How did u come up with the 99% figure.
Lol, u muslims like making up lies, stories and call it facts. Al taqiyya its called, yes?



Lol, "the real him".
The real Jesus according to Christianity ;
Son of God, Born of the virgin, walked on water, raised the died, condemned stoning of adulteresses, preached, forginess of sins, baptism, kindness, peace love for your neighbor, died for our sins, rose from the dead, ascended into heaven, changed the lives of billions and for 2000years remains the largest religion despite prosecutions

ISA according to Islam:
Born of the virgin, did miracles for fun including making clay birds fly and resurrecting his dead playmate to prove he didn't kill him, a slave, scared to die and was saved form crucifixion while an innocent person, a double was killed in his peace, started a false religion that changed the lives of billions and 600 years later a paedophile prophet was sent to correct all the mistakes of ISA.



Go on Mr muslims, let's see where u are going.



So what about the hundreds of Greek manuscripts written and rewritten at the time of the disciples ..



Ok, just Alex. Not Dr Alex. Or Prof Alex. And most importantly Alex has no surname.

Their is a muslim who has a photo of mohammed his name is ahmed.



Wow, he is now corrupting his own work. Alex seems to be an unserious fellow.

By the way what's with u muslims and corruption. If its not spreading corruption in the land, its the injeel has been corrupted or the JEws are corrupt.





Oh ur guess is very interesting. Keep guessing.


Sorry u lost me. What are u trying to say.
By the way its ancient and not acient, u keep saying acient. If u are going to lie at least spell correctly.



Examples please.
By the way the bible is the world of God, part biography of Jesus and also contains the history of the Jews in the OT. Its not the auto-biography of Jesus. He didn't write it, he inspired it.


Going by ur argument it seems the Arab translation of the name of Jesus is the most deficient. From EASHOA MASHKEENA in aramaic to ISA in Arabic.

Lol. Mr muslim u are condemning your quran for not knowing the aramaic name of Jesus, EASHOA MASHKEENA
And shortening it to 3 letters ISA. Mohammed was probably guess, like u .



Mr muslim why did u not mention the Hebrew name for God and why did u spell aramaic name for God wrongly
Al taqiyya master,
Here let me help u

Greek for God : theós

Aramaic for God : in the language of Assyrian Christians isʼĔlāhā, or Alaha

Hebrew for God : יהוה‎ , YHVH, YHWH, Elohim and Eloah Jehovah, Adonai, Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh

Arabic for God : allah as spelt in English when pronounced in Arabic.

EXPLANATION.
The Aramaic and Arab words for God sound similar because Arabic borrowed words from aramaic.
Eg The very word Qur’an, which means “The Recital,” is derived from an Aramaic/Syriac word Qiriana. I bet u didn't know this.

Perhaps "99%" of muslims don't know this.
Its not only that can come up with random statistics.


Just like how mohammed fraudulently copied form the Torah and NT scriptures , the Arabic copied words from Aramaic.

A simple internet search will validate all I have written.















Says the muslim who posts a pro-Islamic al taqiyya using web link.






Peace my brother in humanity but Stop ur lies and al taqiyya.
And remember, Mohammed lied to you, Jesus died for you.

All I will say to you is that OYO lo wa... if you like accept the truth that Eashoa Maskeena is a Muslim.. if you like accept the fact that Eashoa Maskeena called God Allah.. If you like accept it and revert to Islam, if you don't, keep making excuses and lies.. excuses nor lies won't save you on judgement day

onetrack:
Just a quick question. If jihad is not about war then why is this chapter (link below) from Sahih Bukhari called "Book of Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)"? Look at the hadiths. Virtually all of them are about war and fighting and it is very clear that jihad refers to fighting/war. If jihad was not essentially about fighting, then why are so many of these hadiths about just that?

http://www.sunnah.com/bukhari/56

Also while looking at this I found a cool hadith: "Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said "If there is any evil omen in anything, then it is in the woman, the horse and the house." Nice to see what he thought of women.

I won't follow you argue.. Post those hadith here.. And I will post the correct hadith here.. No be today una dey change quran verses and hadith to suit your claims na



And the last hadith you quoted.. What's the verse and its book.. So as to verify

samted:
I meant hebrew. that was an error. greek is a modern language...in a sense

Lol.. Greek na modern language? You sure say you no say smoke oshogbo weed

analice107:
Are you not ashamed? You keep wanting to use Jesus to convert Christians to Islam, yet Islam hates Christ and kills his followers. And Islam doesn't teach one single doctrine Jesus passed down. Only Muhammed's Jihad. I don't get you. You kill us, but we are still okay with our Christianity, you still go on trying to convert us using Jesus, into Muhammed's Jihad. It would have been better, if you teach love and forgiveness like Jesus did, But no. Kill and destroy, is Muhammed's Creed, and that's what Jesus Himself said Satan does.
He steals (Muhammed was the greatest high way robber.
As a matter of fact, he introduced Highway robbery into the world)
He kills. (since Muhammed glorified Satan in the image of allah, the world has witnessed untold slaughter of lives in his hands and his demented followers)
He destroys(imagine the havoc caused by the jihadist all over the world)
See, when I look at Islam, I see Satan, truly speakin Because it's manifesting exactly what the Bible says about him.

Pls stop this desperation, it won't take you anywhere. Find out from the people Jesus has appeared to, especially the ex muslims, find out the name Jesus called himself when he introduced himself to them, Was it Isa? If it was, how come they wake up shouting Jesus and not isa? How come they leave Islam immediately that happens and joins Christianity?
Hey listen. It's not about the container, it's about the content.
Muslims are all about the container but not the content.

Chai.. Oluwa o.. See lie against islam and muslims.. Laughing hysterically.. In this computer age.. Despite so many explanations about islam.. O ga o..



Islam isn't using jesus to convert people.. Islam only shed light on the lies against jesus believed by christians.. Lies like he's son of God and that he's God..


Muslims never kills christians.. Its political war going on and defaming islam by using it as cover. If muslims are terrorist.. Why is it that 99 percent of all terrorism victims are muslims?




Now.. May Allah never forgive you for telling lies against prophet muhammmad.. Or else you post your proofs from quran or hadith here.. The only reliable source of anything about prophet muhammad is quran and hadith. Where una see all this lies I don't know.. It can't suprise me.. That's exact the same thing jews are saying about isa.




You are an educated illitrae.. So jesus appears to them in their dreams huh? Whereas nobody knows how jesus looks like. Abi na d guy wey act jesus in jesus movie wey picture go viral na ex muslims dey see for dreams..tsw. . Even john wey tell biggest lie about jesus history never see jesus..




If someone is even going to revert to christianity.. It won't be from islam.. Abeg how many muslim you see revert to christianity? Laughing..



May Allah never forgive you once again for telling lies against isa and prophet muhammad

Maamin:
i see, you dont even deserve the attention i gave you earlier on. nairaland jihadist!

Despite explaining the meaning of jihad..you still think jihad means war. Is it quran meaning of jihad you will believe or media meaning of jihad? Oyo lo wa

samted:
Alaha or Elaha is probably correct as God but a verbatim translation for Yeshua is Joshua, and that is even greek.. get your facts right.

the possible aramaic translation of Jesus is Isho or Eesho

Now you have done research.. All you said proves my point to be right.. I never said jesus is yeshua.. And yeshua isn't even greek..

Maamin:
Now checking through this thread, I saw so many lies and propagandas. Which I have corrected.

Bible was originally penned down in 3 languages 1. Ancient Hebrew 2. Ancient Aramaic 3. Koine Greek before it was translated into English.

Eoshoa Meeshkha(aramaic) = Jesus the Christ (English)

Yashua ha'Mashiakh (Hebrew) = Jesus the Christ (English)

Elohim = Hebrew =God
Elaha = Aramaic =God
Allah = Arabic = God

Jesus never called God 'Allaha' but 'Elaha'

Jesus is God, it depends where you are reading your scripture from Bible or Quran?

Stop forcing islam on Christians puleaseee!!!

Laughing.. Sebi you see the source of all my claims.. The source came from a christian.. Quote your source o..


Hebrew is for old testament and aramaic for new testament.. Koine greek ko.. Cord greek ni.. Greek translated from aramaic and hebrew.. Go check my source to see o..


Eaoshoa maskeena.. That's the right spellings.. You don't even know the right spellings for the real name of the person you follow.. Laughing..

Laughing.. So his real name was translated into jesus the christ in english right? So if you are given a yoruba written story to translate into english.. You will even translate the names in the story to english? Lol.. So if tunde is in the story.. You will translate it to come again abi.."Laughing..


And you are wrong again in the aramaic word for God.. Its Allaha.. Check my source.. Even if its Elaha..what's the difference between elaha and Allaha??.. Laughing..



Jesus is God? I don die for laughter here ooo.. So na for your dream jesus called himself God abi.. Chai.. See ignorance at its peak..



Forcing islam? I can see the truth of this issur hits you hard

samted:
I was talking about Yahweh. He gave that in his earlier message. everyone knows Isa and Allah. Don't act retarded.

So you knew isa and Allah in arabic but you refuse to accept eashoa and Allaha in aramaic abi. ? Laughing

samted:
He gave the hebrew translations not the aramaic translations.

Laughing.. Hebrew translation for GOD isn't ALLAHA.. Mr man.. Go do your research wella.. Then come back to debate

samted:
a language being dead doesn't mean no one can translate it. it just mean that it isnt in use anymore. like sumerian and akkadian. there are professors that specialize in that shit but they're dead languages and therefore accurate translations cannot be guaranteed.

we have attained common ground on the name not being as important as the message

Accurate translations are always guarranted as long as its translated by somoene who knows the language. In the subject of jesus name and the name he called God, a christian translated it.. So.. Are you saying he's wrong.?

greatnaija01:
HOW COME ISLAM IS CONFUSED, SOME OF U KILL AS JIHAD N SOME DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT

Mention one muslim that kills in the name of jihad or any acclaimed terroist group that kiils in the name of jihad.





If you read my earlier post very well, you would see that its most muslims and muslim nations that suffers the act of terrorism.. Any muslim that kills is not part of muslim, because islam teaches against killing even in battle you can't kill anyhow.

greatnaija01:
LOLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS NO ONE IS AFRAID OF TRUTH, IF ISLAM HAS THE REAL MEANING, THEN WHY D JIHAD KILLING OF CHRISTINS, THEN WHY IS there CONFUSION between both parties, YOU HAVE PROVEN NOTHING, JESUS WAS NOT AN ARAB DUDE, BY THE WAY, ISLAM HAS NO MIRACLES OR PROPHECIES OR LOVE. WE DO NOT BELIEVE THEORIES POSTULATED BY COMMON MEN WHO DID NOT RISE FROM THE DEAD. ITS ALL A HOAX, BY YOUR FRUITS WE KNOW WHO YOU REALLY ARE.


COME TO THINK OF IT, WHY WOULD THE ONE TRUE GOD EMPLOY FORCE AND DEATH THREATS TO CREATURES HE MADE, IF HE IS SOVEREIGN COULD HE NOT USE A BETTER MEANS FOR CONVINCING INFIDELS??


rofl

Am glad you accept the truth in jesus name and the name he called God. Am also happy you bring up another discussion..




.... To clear your misunderstanding on jihad.. Jihad never means killing .. In islam, jihad means doing good deeds.. Helping other people in their needs..

In islam, there's rules of engagement. If the enemies never start a war, we musnt start any, if enemies never attack you, do not attack ( that's on battlefield).. Do not kill women or kid in battle.. That's islam rules of engagement..



And you said we muslims are killing the christians.. Afghanistan, iraq, iran, syria, bruma, and other countries are christian countries abi? Even the people that called themselves boko haram are not muslims because they kill muslims and they killed christians WHO NEVER START A WAR WITH THEM.. Even boko haram members can't recite quran.. A acclaimed muslim that can only dress like a muslim and do not follow islamic rules nor teachings is NEVER A MUSLIMS.. If you follow the trend of terrorism in the world, you would know isreal and usa are behind almost all of it just to extort and exploit countries because of their natural resources.




Islam has no miracle or prophecies? Google is your friend bro.. Do research and get enlightened. In a nutshell, islam told us about past, present and future and quran tell us every single thing about life, grave and heaven..







THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN ISLAM

samted:
the translation of the name is disputed as a result of aramaic being a dead language. however, the name is not the point. salvation is the point. muhammad's name will not grant u salvation.

No language is dead.. There are billions of people who can translate. Even dead sea scrolls written in dead language was translated.


Salvation? Ofcourse there's no salvation in anybodys name.. Its in what they preach that salvation is in..



Billions of people use sango, obatala name to pray and it works.. So salvation rests in Allah not in human being name

Annunaki:
No, I am saying you are a dumb f*ck.

Laughing.. Eashoa maskeena was called worse

The name jesus is known through out the world. The language which jesus spoke when he was alive was known to very few people. What baffles me is that 99 percent of christians do not know anything about the original scripture called bible that was written in jesus language.



Its amazing that 70 percent of christians knows that jesus isn't original name of jesus and they never try to research his real name and everything that has to do with the real him.


99 percent of christians knows bible was translated from greek language to english language. New testament was believed by most christians that its written in greek while old testament was written in hebrew. But this believe or knowledge is absolutely wrong.


Old testament was written in hebrew while New testament was written in acient aramaic.



There is a bible written in acient aramaic langauge and translated by a christian. His name is Alex. He uploaded all the manuscripts online with its tranlsation. Although, he has been corrupting his original translations. I guess he's been threatened by dumbfold group of churches.



Its from acient aramaic bible that greek translated their own bible from the acient aramaic bible and also did english get translated from the greek bible.


What baffles me and show the real deception and lies in the translation of greek and english is that, NAMES,PLACES,ANIMALS are NOT supposed to be translated from any original scripture. But in case of bible, places and animals names were not changed but names of people(important subjects) was translated. This is the beginning of chaos and misunderstanding in the book which is believed to be autobiography of jesus called bible.




Acient aramaic bible was recorded in jesus language and he bears the name EASHOA MASHKEENA.

Greek translated his name into CHRISTOS.

English translated his name into JESUS

Arab calls him ISA

. He's popularly now called Jesus christ of nazareth.





The real deal here isn't really jesus real name, the real deal here is the name that jesus called God. According to jesus real language, he called God ALLAHA.


Aramaic called God ALLAHA, Greek translated ALLAHA into THEOS and English translated THEOS into GOD...





Visit www.v-a.com/bible/













If you are not afraid of truth..visit the link and read.. You will see paul wrote almost everything in new testament. You will even see the correct translation of bible passages and you will realize jesus isn't God and there's nothing called trinity in christianity.







Salam Alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu.

samted:
His name is Jesus and His language was Aramaic

So jesus is aramaic language name abi.. Jesus aint english name again huh?

Annunaki:
Dunce, his real name is Isa abi And his language was arabic

Are you saying I said his language and his real name is what you just said?

Annunaki:
Al taquiya nonsense, Jesus language is believed to be either aramaic or hebrew and God is called Yahweh in both languages. In the time of Jesus allah was not known. Allah was just one of 360 pagan idols in the kabbah and only began to gain prominence when mohamed twisted some biblical stories and put alllah as the main character to give allah some credibility, he then proceed to promote allah as 'God' through forceful conversion and shedding innocent blood.

Ignorance is not an excuse on the day of judgement. You claim to follow jesus,you don't even know his real name or language.. Your loss

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