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Blackfire:
ojibijibijibi .... Oro dun/ e pain am

laughing... alaye gba jesu sinu aye e.. jesu no go church.. jesu no pay tithe, jesu no read Bible, jesu xef no get picture.. jesu never say he die for anybody sin, jesu never said he's God nor he claim to be son of God.. jesu never has one single similarities with Christianity.. kiwalode ti you can't be a Muslim

how much is this phone L5 now

H2Ossss:
My broda... i love it when u cherry pick the bible for your selfish reason... and u completely ignored all d parts of the bible when david danced to the lord like a mad man, jesus casted out demons by praying without bruising his head on the floor, and most importantly u were wrong saying wen jesus describe how to pray... it was clearly stated in the bible wen he taught his disciples how to pray he said...wen u pray u pray like this... our father... who art in heaven.... he never said a thing about knacking my head and black tattoo across my forehead mate.

please correct my mistakes (as in the Bible verses i Chery picked)

H2Ossss:
thats your problem bro... scholars of Bible in that u read to understand and discredit when u feel its wrong... STUDENTS of the quran so you follow it sheepishly without asking questions... most of ya'll dont even know what is in the quran... bro... i lived in the north all my life... i know lots about both holy books and i dont need revelation to choose... probably try being a scholar of the quaran.(look for all the wrongs in it).. u might just run away from it... Anyway bro... i am a christian and i dont hate muslims as i believe both were blessed by God (as decsendants of Abraham, isaac and ishmeal)..... u sound intelligent bro, so use ur time more productively and stop trying wasting it on all these fruitless rants of yours against christianity. cheers my brother.

laughing in Chinese.... north, hausa different from Islam.. and you just proved urself to know nothing about Islam ... I studied Quran, tried to find fault but it doesn't have.. but Bible has.. Hadith has faults....


am not preaching hatred or something bad.. all am preaching is the true way....................... it's not a must you accept, but just acknowledge the truth.. thousands of people will go through these threads... those who will change Will change.. those who won't will not...



Allah said it Himself, He will only set to path whoever He wishes.. All am doing is just like reminding us of our reason Allah created us

H2Ossss:
@deathstroke.... y are u soo obsessed with Christianity? you search the net, read the bible ... i believe u spend 20hours of your day trying to discredit it, looking for facts... my brother, christians know the Truth, so they dont need to dis credit other ppls religion just to prove their's is right... its always the guilty/false party that explains and explains and explains.... and tries to convince....

laughing... most Muslims are scholars in Bible but student in Quran

yvesboss:
yu just quoted where the bible recorded that Abraham fell on his face and in the conversation...he laughed..remember??

and it wasnt recorded as well that Jesus repeated a routinal recitation when praying, instead he spoke to God with his hear bowed. Most christians does that as that represents humility and reverance to the creator
.
So there is a huge difference.

Prayer and worship is different...yeah

Jesus worship with hymns...same with what christians does.

Jesus Christ! OMG.. all I will say is that... OYO lo wa

Blackfire:
eleyi ti gba ode mo esin imole.

dem abuse Jesus more than that.. hypocrite

Annunaki:
Leave him and let him kontinu to make a big foool of himself na at least we can use him to expose the deceeits of islam some more by the time we finish dealing with him, he will renounce islam or change his moniker like you but one thing is certain, his life will never be the same again

ignorance at it's peak... laughing.. all your lies got debunked..

Genesis 32:22-32 New International Version (NIV)
Jacob Wrestles With God
That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok. After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions. So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak. When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”
But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”
The man asked him, “What is your name?”
“Jacob,” he answered.
Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”
Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”
But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.
So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “IT IS BECAUSE I SAW GOD FACE TO FACE, AND YET MY LIFE WAS SPARED.”
The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip. Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched near the tendon.






AMAZING ISN'T IT? AMAZING BIBLICAL NONSENSE

Genesis Chapter 3 verse 8- 15



And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.




GOD WALKING IN THE GARDEN IN THE COOL DAY.. AMAZING NONSENSE ISN'T IT? GOD THAT NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN WALKS..



And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

GOD THAT IS ALL-KNOWING ASKING HIS CREATION WHERE HE IS.. ISN'T THAT AMAZING?


And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I
was naked; and I hid myself.


THIS PART IS COOL.. HIDING HIMSELF FROM GOD THAT IS ALL-SEEING... AMAZING NONSENSE


And he said, Who told thee that thou
wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?


And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.


And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.


And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:


And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.




THIS AMAZING FABLE IS WRITTEN BY SOME STUPID BEING..

malvisguy212:
and muhammed is the ONLY prophet that did not live up to what he preach , yet you neglect reality and chose to be ignorance.

if you can't prove it.. you are a bloody hypocrite and a disgrace to your fellow Christians

Scholar8200:
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: John 17:1 (STANDING WITH EYES LIFTED TO HEAVEN SPEAKING TO YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER)

And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: Mark 11:25 (STANDING)

I am weary with my groaning; all the night make I my bed to swim; I water my couch with my tears. Psalm 6:6 (LYING ON A BED)

And it came to pass, when I heard these words, that I sat down and wept, and mourned certain days, and fasted, and prayed before the God of heaven, (SITTING)
Nehemiah 1:4


WHAT IS THE KEY FACTOR IN PRAYER:
With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee earlyIN SPIRIT & TRUTH)
Isaiah 26:9a

and

Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.(FAITH)

Mark 11:24

Pray goes beyond recitations and repetitions by rote!

But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Matthew 6:7

THE REAL ESSENCE THEN OF WORSHIP AND PRAYER IS THAT IT BE DONE IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH FOR:

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
JOHN 4:24

you just proved you don't know different between prayer and worship... even prayer can replace worship in some places but you will know it's worship they talking about

Blackfire:
so Allah is now a planner, not a deceiver, do u even know quran?.
story book? Tell me one account in the quran that is not concoction of bunkun bunkun?
Do u know that bros moha collected his adopted son's wife?

quote the Quran verse wey call Allah a deceiver... if you can't . you are a fool who dwells in lies



if Quran is Just a story book, it will be full of contradiction and insults to God like Bible...


laughing hysterically... collected his dead adopted son wife? laughing.



for your information mr fool, he didn't collect her but married her.... do you even know why he married her? if you do read your Bible well, you will see one stupid law there.. that any widow that re marries commits adultery....


Prophet Muhammad married her to put a stop to that stupid law...


se o ti ye e?

Annunaki:
The commentaries after the verse here helps explain the verse better devoid of islamic al taquiya. :

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

laughing hysterically. .. this One is strong.. eleyi gidi gaaan.. laughing...




there's no need to argue... verse 190 has already stated it in clear terms.. only someone with right education and common sense will know..



FIGHT THOSE WHO FIGHT YOU...

the verse stated it clearly ... and in every written item... each sentence links with each other... 190 will explain 191 and 191 will explain 192.... it's called correlation or relevance......



just use your knowledge of essay writing to explain the verse....



if you still refuse my explanation and the clear explanation from verse 190..




OYO lo wa o

VomeSchakleton:
if youre stuupid enough or deluded enough to think what you're doing here is not an exercise in futility then by all means, continue.

lol... your case no get comment

Annunaki:
Where in that passage did it say they should only kill those who want to kill them You pathetic liar and in your twisted mind verse 191 that your demon god instructed to kill innocent people is not a violent verse For the benefit of others I will reproduce the passage with commentary that proves it was a purely offensive evil instruction.

explain verse 190... i must expose your lies today

yvesboss:
You might be a slightly wrong bro.

From all those indications and verses you sighted...they were all talking to God and possibly got a reply from God. Even Abraham LAUGHED.

Now back to your thesis...in salat, after suratu fatia another suratu is recited..and when yur face is down...you recite 'suburana robin Allah' meaning Glorified is Allah.

Kindly note that that recitation is routine...so when you really want to talk and make supplications, you either kneel down and talk to God with Arabic, Yoruba, Igbo, any language at all.

Now here is where i am going to...in solat, you cant say anything other than the regimented recitations, you cant speak english or say anything outside those recitations...worst of all, YOU CANT LAUGH. So comparing what how Jesus prayed to Solat is kinda misguided.

And as for positions christians pray..they pray in any position, lying down, kneeling, standing, jumping etc.

Please note that i am not opposing your view..i am just trying to straighten the facts.

Thanks and peace!

how can be laughing when you are worshipping God?... did Jesus prayed in any position? like jumping, kneeling or standing?



Religion are laid down set of rules that must be followed.. cannot be changed nor edited because it's perfected by Allah..



when you worship God, you are to do it exactly the way Prophet did it.. you can use any language to pray for to God.. but in reciting surah on salahs...Arabic is a must..

prayer and worship are two different things.. don't mix em up bro

VomeSchakleton:
DeathStroke007

And at this point you realise i was right all along and you should have just shuuut your mouth. rookie mistake.

shut up dude... if you ain't bold enough to make Islam clearer to those that doesn't understand.. then stand aside

Blackfire:
i hope u know that one of the 99 attribute of al-ilah is to deceive as a deceiver.
Are u been deceived by Al -ilah?

plan and deceit na Same? Quran ain't same with your Story book who compares God with a drunkard

analice107:
All the prophets Gabriel appeared to he introduced himself as Gabriel. I challenge you to post the Koranic verse where the being introduced himself to Muhammed.
You see how u lie? Pls be ashamed. You are discussing God issues here. Jesus never said, no one heard God's voice. He said no one had seen God, except Him who is in the bosom of the Father, meaning himself Jesus. What about the Audible voice of God, directly from heaven when Jesus was baptised and on transfiguration. "This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased, hear ye Him?" this one everyone present heard the voice of God.

voice of God in the scripture means rule and guidelines stated by God.. Voice of God also means Prophet of God..



“Read in the name of your Lord who created -created man from a clot. Read: for your Lord is Most Bountiful, who teaches by the pen, teaches man that which he knew not.” (Quran 96:1-5)

that's his first encounter with angel Gabriel ...

"The Messenger (Muhammad) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in God, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. (They say,) ‘We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers’ — and they say, ‘We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)’." (Quran 2:285)

“And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Quran) to Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a chapter of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides God, if you are truthful.” (Quran 2:23)


Angels do not need introduction, as soon as Prophet of Allah sees angel, he sure will know.. it's the same angel Allah has been sending to HIS Prophet right From the first to the last..



we are all son of God according to bible.. so cut the crap of Jesus as son of God

analice107:
Please beg Allah to tell the world why Jesus' kinsmen wanted to kill him. AND, why did Allah deceived the Jews and stole Jesus away, but allowed his most precious Apostle to die such a shameful death of poisoning. And the disgrace of dying with his manhood refusing to die with him. What was the erection for?

laughing... wahala wa o.. these dudes are so much mis-informed...


ok.. you don't need to ask Allah why Jesus kinsmen wants to kill him... jews are always killing their Prophet.. it's simple.. just use your common sense.. they do not believe him, they believe he's imposter.. they believe he's a bastard , they believed he's fathered by a human (roman soilder)..




Allah do not deceive because He's not human... The jews planned to kill him but Allah is the best of planners.. jews plans failed And Allah rose Jesus to heaven..



death of poisoning? Wahala wa o.. poison wey he eat years ago... .. he knew the food was poisoned, he ate it and nothing happened to him.. the purpose of the poison is to kill him instantly..


erection? on death bed? Prophet Muhammad? wahala wa o.. no be only erection.. na dejection

TruthHurts1:
All I need is to snap pictures of all the "bambi allah" beggars I meet every morning and evening.

As for terrorism:
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text (although many Muslims choose to think of them that way). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.

The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God. Most contemporary Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Their apologists cater to these preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.

Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy, along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran, have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.
Quran

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

>Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

>Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

laughing... islam verses calling people to war...


all those verses you posted av debunked..


to make it easy for you.... go read 5 verses before the actual verse you quoted and 3 verses after it to get the main gist....




In case you don't know :: There's rule of engagement in islam.... DO NOT FIGHT THEM IF THEY DO NOT FIGHT YOU
DO NOT KILL WOMAN, KIDS AND SURRENDERED ENEMIES



UNLIKE YOUR BIBLE.. EVEN ANIMALS WERE TO BE KILLED...

TruthHurts1:
All I need is to snap pictures of all the "bambi allah" beggars I meet every morning and evening.

As for terrorism:
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text (although many Muslims choose to think of them that way). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.

The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God. Most contemporary Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Their apologists cater to these preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.

Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy, along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran, have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.
Quran

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

>Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

>Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

hausa race is known for begging.. most hausa is a Muslim.. and Islam forbids begging.. instead of begging, islam teaches that it's better for one to be selling firewood than begging.. even if you were to beg, it's not to take as a job. . islam and hausa are two different things....

analice107:
Just listen to ur self. All other prophets talked with God directly, only Muhammed received a revelation. A revelation from a creature who never actually said, he was an Angel, talk more of him being Angel Gabriel.
Shouldn't you sometimes seat and think?

laughing.. all other Prophet talk to God directly? isn't your bible that said Jesus said nobody has ever hear the voice of God??



laughing... a creature who never said he's an angel.. see as this one is talking like say he don read everything in Quran and Hadith... tsw.. stop taking about what you don't know jare.. oniro oshi

kallmemrB:
you started you article in a sensible manner but now you are displaying ur arrogant side

God is spirit, and the people who worship him must worship in spirit and truth." John 4:24

Bowing Our heads is like honoring God and declaring his Supreme authority over all mankind,we are acknowledging his power might and glory over us...so pls don't turn it into something silly

Its like when christains raise their hands high above their heads suring worship,it means they are declaring a total submission to God

A Christian that converts to muslims and tells you he or she is a better christain is lying and was never a good christian.....
You need to understand the God you are serving to appreciate him...

A good christian that understands God clearly know that Jesus is the way

Jesus replied, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6

John 4:24

24. “Allaha is a Spirit and those who worship him must* worship him in Spirit and faithfulness*


Now explain that spirit to me if you don't agree to my earlier explanation..



if bowing your head is what you claim it is, na Jesus tell you? what's your proof? for the fact that every Prophet including Jesus bow/postrate for Allah is an act of worship..



ok.. if you claim to understand and follow Jesus.. is Jesus god or son of god by birth or prophet of god? and tell me how Jesus worshipped god and tell me how you are worshipping god.. did Jesus ever read Bible or pay tithe?



yeah john 14:6 .. it's correct.. and it's that same bible and Jesus that prophesied the coming of Prophet Muhammad

TruthHurts1:
Why would any self respecting Christian want to associate himself with terrorism, sexual slavery, street begging and all the other unwholesome practices?

prove the terrorism, sexual slavery, street begging and all other unwholesome practices in islam ... if you can't, you are a disgrace to your fellow Christians

TruthHurts1:
Muhammed is a muslim. Jesus never was and never will be one.Apart from being heretical for us, it's also just too embarrassing for any true Christian to want to identify with Islam.

every thing i said in relation with Jesus being a Muslim... prove it to be a lie and I will accept he was never and never will be a Muslim

Annunaki:
Are you not the same idiiot I quoted it for yesterday Are also brain dead in addition to being a chronic pathological liar?

requote it make i debunk ur lies

it's you that be al taqiyya.. because you be definition of lies...


190. And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors. [This Verse is the first one that was revealed in connection with Jihad, but it was supplemented by another (V.9:36)].

191. And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

192. But if they cease, then Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

193. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allah (Alone). But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)


NOW DO YOU SEE WHERE YOUR LIES ARE EXPOSED... READ QURAN 2:190.." IT SAYS FIGHT IN THE WAY OF ALLAH THOSE WHO FIGHT YOU"


PROPHET MUHAMMAD WILL ONLY KILL THOSE WHO WANNA KILL HIM..

FIGHT IN THE WAY OF ALLAH, (DON'T KILL WOMEN, KIDS AND MALE WHO SURRENDERS)


UNLIKE BIBLE, KILL THEM ALL.. EVEN INFANT AND ANIMALS

cc : annunaki

Annunaki:
The same quoran that says the sun sets in a muddy pool of water?

laughing... quote the Quran verse make i see.. i must expose your lies today

TruthHurts1:
Praying with the face touching the earth is a common practice with the Yamomani natives of the Amazon Forest. They believe it brings them closer to their Earth Goddess. They are the true originators of Islam.

laughing... this is the first time am hearing this.....


ohk.. if they pray with face touching the earth... do they do it 5 times a day? do dey do it facing kiblah(mecca) ? do they do it exactly as its in the pictures I posted??..


#bros y you dey lie like this#

TruthHurts1:
The only act of worship that matters in Christianity is praying with great faith and with a righteous heart.
Our faith has nothing to do with empty ritualistic observances.
A Christian is someone who has accepted God's offer of salvation and has dedicated his life to overcoming sin by the sacrifice of Christ on the Cross.
He is not a prisoner to repetitious acts of prayer such as banging your head on the ground five times a day.
As a Christian, all I need to do when praying is to say a small prayer to a Big God.
For you as a muslum yours is to say a big prayer to a small god.
That sums up the differences between us.

#singing # oh boy why you lieing... una dey deny church now o.. laughing.. and you go go church on Sunday.. hypocrite..


Ritualistic observance? like? act of worship isn't ritual.. ritual always entails killings.. so ti ye e



l like your definition of Christian.. na Jesus gave the definition or na you? .. o ya give me one single verse where Jesus said I died for the sins of the world....

act of worship don turn to prison? actually Jesus bang his head on the floor 5 times a day.. go read the book of Mathew..



God? do you even know that Jesus called God Allaha? It's only in Islam Allah is called God... Jesus said My God and your God is ONE.. it's only in Islam we have one God... (Allaha) Jesus said he's on the earth to fulfil the commandments of moses.. it's only in Islam the commandments exist (Shariah)... Jesus real name is Eashoa Maskeena... it's only in Islam we call him Isa.. Isa and Eashoa are almost the same in pronunciation.. do the oral analysis yourself.. in short, Jesus is a Muslim.. #lobatn