European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 10:13pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
airmark: I have asked you to add emir's cup, oba's cup and obi's cup to barca's silverwares. By the way stop asking senseless questions.
. If you wanna troll us, troll with sense. I really didn't expect you to answer the question because we all know Chelsea is as successful as Enyimba of Aba. Therefore, let guy like Krasid do the talking for Madrid. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 5:18pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
airmark: We are talking about real madrid and barca here bro.
Real madrid > Barcelona
Fact only!!! When we count official trophies, you fact becomes null and void. However you have not answered this question... Is Chelsea FC a big club? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 1:23pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 9:49am On Dec 21, 2015 |
hensben: Mou inherited a Madrid side that couldn't beat Lyon, he made them formidable force in Europe once again unlike pep who was given formidable bayern team. Pep inherited a Barcelona side that couldn't beat Celtic and Rubin Kazan. He turned them into UCL champions. That's what Mourinho couldn't do for Madrid in 3 years, but Ancelloti succeeded in his 1st attempt. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 9:44am On Dec 21, 2015 |
airmark: With 23 la liga titles to madrid's 32. Go and ask IFFHS and FIFA or continue in your delusions. With 27 King's Cup to Madrid's 19, and 11 Supercopas with Madrid's 9, FC BARCELONA is the most successful club in Spain. So Mr Man, go back to ur EPL and compare your trophy haul with Aston Villa. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 9:48pm On Dec 20, 2015 |
airmark: The biggest club in spain is madrid. They hold the la liga and ucl titles' records. They are the FIFA club of the century and best european club of the century. Barca needs to wait till the end of this century to catch up. Forbes ranked them as the most valuable club in the world 2015. Success and riches make them the biggest club in the world. All what you wrote there doesn't dispute the fact that FC BARCELONA is the most successful club in Spain. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 8:16pm On Dec 20, 2015 |
airmark: Biggest club since la liga started. The most successful club in Spain is FC BARCELONA #FACT |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 6:52pm On Dec 20, 2015 |
hensben: That is because mou took over teams that were trying to be formidable force once again in Europe( Real Madrid) and rebuilding process after the departure of aged players(Chelsea) unlike Enrique n pep. The other 2 coaches passed through similar situations (rebuilding processes) and were hugely successful. Mou had the 2 best players (Ronaldo and Kaka) in the world and spent around 400 million euros. Zero UCL + sack letter Your mourinho has been sacked twice in 3 years. Tell us the time Pep has ever been sacked. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 6:39pm On Dec 20, 2015 |
hensben: You are an "awipe" for rating those two ahead of mou. Enrique that couldn't do jack with Roma or is it pep that's still unable to get bayern to UCL final. Mou won UCL wth Porto. I as a barca coach can win la Liga with Suarez, messi n either hazard or Neymar in my team. Nuff said. It's been 5 and half years since mourinho led a team to the ucl final. He's coached 2 biggest teams, yet he never played a ucl final. Mourinho has lost touch with current trend. His tactics have been found out by all teams (big and small). I can't remember Pep or Enrique being sacked recently, but we all know Mourinho has been sacked twice in 3 years. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 6:31pm On Dec 20, 2015 |
capricornian: Surprisingly I also believe that the standard of EPL is nose diving rather than smaller teams getting better. And Manchester United is the face of EPL's downfall. Hell, a club that housed Ronaldo, Scholes and Nistelrooy now boasts of the likes of Feliani and Young under their possession. From Stam, Rio and Vidic to Blind, Rojo and Smallings, how are the mighty fallen! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 6:25pm On Dec 20, 2015 |
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Damn! It's matches like this Ronaldo flaunts his biceps. We are yet to see him show stuffs against decent teams. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 2:14pm On Dec 20, 2015 |
airmark: They won 4 trophies in 2014, while dmcdad that i replied said madrid is yet to win ordinary treble. Are y'all for real? A treble is made up of 1. The League title 2. The King's Cup 3. The UCL Madrid has NEVER won won a treble in a football season. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 2:02pm On Dec 20, 2015 |
airmark: Are you sure? What about in 2014? Don't let me think you have joined the likes of dayo ooo. What treble did Madrid win in 2014? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 11:05am On Dec 20, 2015 |
Krasid: Rakitic is more inconsistent than Ozil.Have you forgotten Ozil's world class assist for CR's goal against Barca that won Madrid the league in 2012.Rakitic is just a workhorse, nothing more.Stop the blind argument, Ozil is definitely better. Ozil's stats against Barcelona 10 games..... ... 1 goal........ 2 assists For a player of his calibre, this is a very poor stats. Like I said earlier, Ozil only shines against smaller teams, and flops against big teams. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 10:48am On Dec 20, 2015 |
dmcdad: It is now seeming like English coaches can't cope with Spanish football, at least taking cue from recent ones. Well, let's just wait and see how things go henceforth before running into conclusion. Each time I remember Bobby Robson's Era, I am always filled with anger. Despite our array of stars, including world player of the year Ronaldo, we lost the league to an unfancied Atletico Madrid. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 8:57am On Dec 20, 2015 |
weedtaker: i don't smoke on a friday and sunday morning, i hope you don't too.. Anyways how is the other Mancunian doing in spain?? Cc. debroslink, homesteady, dmcdad make una give us update naa, how valencia de fare for una league? Valencia is yet to win a league game this December. Neville has drawn 2 matches in 2 league games since taking over as coach. However he has a win in Copa del Rey against Barakaldo (one palasa team). Valencia dey fúck up. They are not living up to their potentials. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 8:46am On Dec 20, 2015 |
Ozil disappears in big matches. How many assists or goals did he have against Barcelona while he was @ Madrid?
Rakitic led Sevilla to 2 Europeans titles back to back and he's a rock in our midfield.
I'm sure if Sanchez never played for Barca, they will tell us he's better than Neymar. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 12:29am On Dec 19, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Messi simply because Messi was the best at the time. if messi had retied and another player was showing to be better than, Ronaldo would have made that new guy his reference point in 2007 was it Messi that was inspiring him to score 42 goals when Messi himself was still scoring 15-16 goals? This season Messi was out injured yet Ronaldo is already on 21 goals shey na Messi dey push am from sick bed? Ferguson inspired Ronaldo like that once in 6 years. Messi has been doing so consecutively for the past 6 years. Ronaldo has 21 goals already, but we all know that he has not showed his class against any big team this season. Messi has scored against big teams despite the injuries. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 12:18am On Dec 19, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 11:57pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: In Madrid I believe he would. There is no stopping Ronaldo.
His aim was to be the best whether its messi, Suarez neymar or Kaka. He just wants to beat them all
Ronaldo learnt how to head the ball, How to take shots, how to shoot freekicks he even bulked up massively, watched his diet.
he simply wanted to be the best at everything. even things Messi dont know how to do The bold has said it all. He aims to be the best. So let's assume Suarez is the best, and he scores 30 goals every season, Ronaldo will love to score 35 or more right? So who motivates him to score 35 goals, Suarez or Ferguson? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 11:48pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Assuming Messi retired 2 seasons ago? Would Ronaldo stop scoring 50+ goals? Assuming Messi retired 5 seasons ago, would Ronaldo score 50+ goals consecutively for 5 years? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 11:44pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: As at the time Ronaldo was winning Ballon D or in United, Messis career wasnt even that clearly defined. Ronaldo became a beast and Messi was still a very talented player who had a high ceiling
When Ronaldo was scoring 42 goals, messi barely scored 16. So you think Messi's 16 goals was what pushed Ronaldo to score not 20, not 30 but 42 goals?? And where the hell was Ferguson when his output dropped from 42 to 26? That about 40% reduction. That 42 goals was a one off. However, he has be scoring 50goals plus in the last 5 seasons all because of his feud with Messi. What Ferguson triggered once, Messi has been doing so for the past 5 years or more. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 11:29pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Ronald without Ferguson would never even aspire to be the world best he would be content with nutmegging players and making people laugh
Just like what Quaresma is
Ferguson brought out the competitor in him.
Before Ronaldo had no problem with Rooney being better or just contributing to the team, Ferguson brought out the competitive nature in him where he could see himself as better than kaka, Dinho or Messi Ronaldo was already feuding with Messi while @ United. Why did Ferguson fail to bring out that competitor in Rooney? Barca was trophy less, yet the gifts of Messi stood out. How come Ronaldo went from scoring 42 goals to a mere 18 league goals under the same Ferguson? How come Ronaldo became a better player after leaving Ferguson? Why has Ronaldo maintained 50+ goals every season for the past 5 seasons? Only one answer comes to mind... Messi |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 11:20pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
Eruditor: Rio Ferdinand in his autobiography said when United got CR7 2003 and Rooney 2004, himself and Scholes felt Rooney was better based on what they saw during trainings.
CR7 had talent but he read the game poorly: dribbled when he was to pass, couldn't head a ball to save his life. Was skinny and his goal scoring was abysmal.
Nothing about CR7 showed that he will be a prolific goal scorer. A great winger, yes, but not one of the best players to ever grace the game. That's where Fergie helped him.
Every other thing you saw of CR7 post-United, is as a result of having better players to help him in a "less competitive" league. The hardwork had been done by Fergie and even Mou said it on arriving at RM. I am not undermining the contribution of Ferguson's work in Ronaldo's career. But I'd like you to know that even when Ronaldo scored 42 goals that season in United, it's because a young Messi had started breathing down his neck. Barca were trophy-less that season, but Messi was ballon d'or 2nd best that season. We all mentioned Henry and Wenger. Henry spent his best years with Arsenal, but Ronaldo has spent his best years without Ferguson, but with Messi, who had brought out the best in him after Ferguson's Era. Wenger made Henry a better player, but Messi made Ronaldo a better player too. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 11:07pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: harior, spy360, debroslink
Did Wenger make Henry the player he is? Or was he destined for greatness regardless I have no problem with coaches making players. Wenger made Igwe, just like Pep made Messi. But do you honestly think Ronaldo would have 3 ballon d'or if he had stayed @ United? I still insist that Messi made Ronaldo a better player. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 11:00pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Fergie already set Ronaldo on the path to greatness Ronaldo won Ballon D or with Fergie, He scored 42 goals with fergie. Without Fergie Ronaldo would be no different from a talented winger and trickster whose joy would be in the number of people he dribbled From 42 goals, it dropped to 18 league goals the following season before he finally joined Madrid shows that he lacked motivation. His rivalry with Messi has however not diminished for the past 6 years or so, and if he scores 42 goals this season, it would be regarded as a failure. I still insist that Messi made Ronaldo a better player; not Fergie. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 10:44pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
Eruditor: Fergie made CR7 who he is. Pep did same for Messi. End of. I disagree the fact that Fergie made Ronaldo. Ronaldo became better after he left Fergie. Why? It's because Messi made Ronaldo |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 1:05pm On Dec 18, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe: Mourinho: It's hard. All last season I did phenomenal work and brought them to a level that's not their level, which is more than they really are.
Damn you Mr Mourinho for saying such a very stvpid comment. If you had been a coach @ Barcelona and made this rubbish comment, I trust Messi and co would have kicked you out within a week. Little wonder he had issues with Ronaldo despite the guy scoring 50+ goals every season. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 7:07pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
nateevs: Let me tell you what will happen should Jose take the job at United next season. He will have 200% of the board's support. He will be allowed to spend 100s of millions. He will spend 100s of millions of one-time wonders, work-horses and average Joes.
These average Joes will run into the ground for him. The will win the league. United fans will be happy winning the league again, being consistent at the top. Compared to where they have been in recent years, it's glory days again.
He will organize them at back the back. They will be ultra defensive and admirable but as always, very lacklustre going forward. He will manage to convince them pragmatism wins. He will win the hearts of some.
The next season, the fights will begin. He will take a pop at Wenger and now Chelsea. He will fight the media, the referees and anyone in between, the moment they lose. Some of his fans will still like him, some will stop.
He will park the bus against Chelsea, City, Arsenal. This is where the anger will begin. Die-hard United fans will crave expansive football once again. He will not change. He will not bring any young player through, the work horses will start to fail.
Blaming will begin. He probably finishes the season winning the league again.
Third season, full blown fight against everyone. The workhorses (the usual 11 - the untouchables) stop performing. United fans demand better football to the eye, despite just winning the league.
More public fights. Blames. Name calling. Fans of other clubs start to hate United because of JM. People call them classless. United's PR suffers a blow. Boards' backing drops to 70% . . . .
Beginning of the end.
. Bro, you have just summarised my view about Mr Mourinho. This is the reason he never lasted 3 seasons. This is the complete truth about Mr Mourinho. God bless you. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 7:30am On Dec 14, 2015 |
Airmark, show us one DM in Europe that is as consistent as Busquets in the last 6 years and stop naming some players in epl who have barely spent 2 full seasons. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Debroslink: 10:30pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Debroslink: 10:24pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
coded01: I learnt Ronaldo didn't play... 
He never plays against top teams...Why?  If na Granada or Malmo, na so he go dey score 4 goals. |