capricornian:
Surprisingly I also believe that the standard of EPL is nose diving rather than smaller teams getting better.

dmcdad:
Funny enough the average EPL fan would never attest to this fact.

capricornian:
Surprisingly I also believe that the standard of EPL is nose diving rather than smaller teams getting better.

Debroslink:


And Manchester United is the face of EPL's downfall. Hell, a club that housed Ronaldo, Scholes and Nistelrooy now boasts of the likes of Feliani and Young under their possession.

From Stam, Rio and Vidic to Blind, Rojo and Smallings,

how are the mighty fallen!

capricornian:


Oh well I don't think the situation is permanent.. As you have said we are the face of EPL but am sure we will come back strong. I think Fergie's retirement was not properly planned for and I think that's why we are still struggling.

We need a new project that will come with a SOLID MANAGER. One that is very tactically sound who can create something out of nothing and who commands respect even amongst managers and that's one of the reasons I said GIggs isn't ready cos fans are not patient anymore.

raumdeuter:


I am sure you know nothing about football or very little at best

In the current CL there were 3 groups with both EPL and Buli teams, Buli teams topped 2 of those 3. UEFA ranking Buli sits comfortably ahead of EPL sit down there continue deceiving yourself

How many players in the Bayern first team are from other Bundesliga sides?

Its the mediocrity that made Bayern smash your team 5-1

which of these teams Pep would be contending against has he not molested in their most recent meetings?

SailorXY:
possession football is not our problem. The problem with LvG is terrible team selection, he selects like he's under a spell sent from the future.
I have said this countless times here that this collection is good enough to win UCL. People say LvG wasted money but I don't agree, he is just blind or joking.
If 4-1-4-1/4-3-3 gave us our best run since his appointment, why is he so dumb not to try it out again? He's tried 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3,3-5-2 since then but never the format where the team played eye-catching soccer.
There's no justification playing Martial anywhere apart from No. 9, there's no reason Ander & Morgan should be on the bench when fit, there's no justification rewarding Young with a full back conversion after he showed impeccable attacking form last season, there's no justification Rooney should be undroppable!

A whole lot of foolish vapor emanating from the skull of the man, it's a world wonder.

SIRcumalot:
Sakho dey look like proper waste man for this game
@GBR1 I told u Liverpool never reach

GBR1:

Klopp can make good use of the January window, and you never can tell.

PietroRico:
Give Madrid Rooney(subsidised wages) + Depay + Mata + 50 million for Gareth bale then retire van Gaal= 74% of our problems solved

chrisley024:
buy who sef?. He go manufacture players?

chrisley024:
buy who sef?. He go manufacture players?

PietroRico:
Give Madrid Rooney(subsidised wages) + Depay + Mata + 50 million for Gareth bale then retire van Gaal= 74% of our problems solved

ElFenomeno1:
Scummies have gone mad! LVG the insane Dutch mongo has brought MUFC to its knees.....

capricornian:


Oh well I don't think the situation is permanent.. As you have said we are the face of EPL but am sure we will come back strong. I think Fergie's retirement was not properly planned for and I think that's why we are still struggling.

We need a new project that will come with a SOLID MANAGER. One that is very tactically sound who can create something out of nothing and who commands respect even amongst managers and that's one of the reasons I said GIggs isn't ready cos fans are not patient anymore.

MrTA:
The reality is fans are not patient anymore. While managers should always be accountable for their mistakes and results, its ridiculous that all it takes is one bad season and you're out in football these days. I always say to Arsenal fans when they wanted Wenger out during their barren years to be careful what you wish for. Jose won the title just last season and has been sacked because they're having a bad season this year. This is Jose Mourinho, one of the most successful managers of all time. Like SAF used to say, If all we did was sack every manager for a bad season especially one that has been successful in the past and has a track record where does the game go from there?

It was on these forums where I remember how many times Man utd fans even wanted SAF to leave, that he has lost it etc etc. No one gets a chance to build anymore or rectify a mistake. So essentially no one is allowed a repreive ( apart from Wenger it seems but I know many fans who still want him sacked).
I just think the game has really lost its soul completely and you can problem trace this back to Real Madrid from 2000 onwards.

Such a shame.

adebayo201:

Oga mi can i buy you a drink

adebayo201:
Excatly..... I dont just understand it anymore... It has really lost it soul.

capricornian:


Please do sir... A bottle of red wine in this unbearable heat wouldn't be bad o.

I appreciate in advance sir

elrony:


van Gaal wishes to share his truck of Ogidiga with you. ..wah ya say mate?

Spy360:
Let him come to England, he will taste and see.

He only needs to ask Klopp. His 'gengen' pressing got walloped 3-0 today by a classless Watford. We love EPL.

capricornian:


Please do sir... A bottle of red wine in this unbearable heat wouldn't be bad o.

I appreciate in advance sir

MrTA:
The reality is fans are not patient anymore. While managers should always be accountable for their mistakes and results, its ridiculous that all it takes is one bad season and you're out in football these days.

RuuDie:


My favorite managers, Moyes (UTD) and AVB (Chelsea) both got the boot and I tried to raise these points but got shouted down here on this thread and the Chelsea one.
I didn't know this logic still existed. Or in other words, it only applies to a "speacial breed" of managers... no wonder there is a rumored musical chairs of managers at the moment - Carlo to Bayern, Pep to City, Pelle to Chelsea, Mou to UTD - just like the Naija political situation, "when will the young be allowed to grow!?"