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nihilistjnr:
That's your business

I did not quote you to argue that, and I don't care about that

You quoted me to discuss my opinion on Xavi vs Ramos based on stats. I have zero opinion on Mathieu vs Makelele

We are so even. EOD

nihilistjnr:

My own argument is simple Ramos was more influential than Xavi for spain.

Why?

Because Ramos scored more goals for Spain than Xavi when they played together.

If scoring goals(mostly PK) denotes influence according to you, then Makelele is the most unproductive French midfielder in this century. He couldn't outscore another French man who is a CB and has spent most of his career on the bench.

Mathieu > Makelele

nihilistjnr:
Simple question did Mathieu and Makelele play together?

Xavi and Ramos played together, and I'm making a case for who was more influential for Spain.

That's why I did not post club stats.

Oya thesis

A defender is using PK to paddle stats and you are showboating his stats. You fall my hand.

Since Makelele and Mathieu are not PK takers, their comparison makes more sense.

hensben:
See Wetin raumdeuter cause. Anyhow comparison everywhere. Smh

No be your fellow brother start the nonsense?

nihilistjnr:
Did makalele and Mathieu play together?

Story... Lemme help you rephrase what you just posted...

nihilistjnr:
Mathieu is a defender - his job is to defend not create assists. So your argument is dead in the water.

What I don't understand is how Mathieu who stood next to the keeper in the Barcelona box, has more goals than Makelele playing 30 yards in front of the defence.

oya thesis.

nihilistjnr:
They can't argue with facts

Xavi for Spain: 12 goals
Sergio Ramos for Spain: 18 goals

Ramos is a CB

Facts don't lie

Claude Makelele for Chelsea: 2 goals 144 games
Jeremy Mathieu for Barcelona: 3 goals 62 games

Mathieu was a CB rooted on the bench.

NOBODYY:
John Terry has more career goals than Andreas iniesta

John Terry is a central back o


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But Andres iniesta Beasted a final

Ogbeni, you want to start what you cannot finish. Cat
dey sleep and rat wan go bite him tail. Don't let me rubbish that your local legend Lampard. Let the sleeping dog lie jeje

Who's the better player between Chukwueze and Vinicius Jr?

Lana1:
Still better than Ter Steering

You say wetin? No go make the gods vex for you.

Lana1:
De Gea sef go open mouth say he wan 400k per week with all these Almunia-esque performances he has been dropping lately.

We told you he's an overrated pussy, you dey form strong head.

Las las, you don dey understand.

slimghost:
Villarreal doing the lords work on Barca. Our own Chukwueze having a stunner

Chukwueze has more attack sense than Lingard.

slimghost:
Villarreal doing the lords work on Barca. Our own Chukwueze having a stunner

Lord's work ke? Did you see Messi's masterclass freekick?

IKON360:
abeg who scored our 3rd goal?

You no see the amazing freekick by GOAT?

Ozkar:
As in eh.... He had a really poor game today. Pique is so underrated mehn.

So underrated is he... Pique is easily one of the greatest defenders in the last 10 years.

Neimar:
I don off tv sef
chaii i miss d goal

Then never born any keeper wey fit save the freekick

Umtiti, this match has reduced the number of your fans after that classless Sevilla defending you cost us.

This match sweet my belle. What a nice way to end the day.

Thank you Suarez for that last kick of the match.

Never say die spirit dey this team.

Walahi

GOALLLLLLLLLLL BALLLLLLLL

GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

OMO see freekick.

Kilode

Last time we lost @ this stadium was during Rijkaard's era

A very serious wake up call.

This is the deciding month of April.

Chukwueze plays like Robben. How old is this guy?

Umtiti, your days are getting numbered.

We are hearing these wailing and lamentation all the way from Catalunya.

Scummies.

Sweet counter finished by Messi

Was that a PANENKA freekick by Messi?

airmark:
Though you are yet to defend that stupid statement that Hazard singlehandedly made Chelsea to concede 3 goals against atm, i hope you know that Van Dijk played ucl last season and made the team of the season. You always type rubbish.

My guy, shut up. How many UCL seasons has Van Dijk played before you start comparing him with his god(Pique)? Show us his team or individual titles and let's compare with Pique.

Every sensible person knows that Hazard's Ikebe dance led to the downfall of Chelsea in UCL semi final @ Stamford Bridge, and it did not happen once in that match.

IKON360:
lol, abeg leave me.
No footballer is on Ronaldo and Messi's level, even Ballon D Or winner, Ligue 1 best player, EPL best player, Serie A best player etc, none are on Messi and Ronaldo's level.
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For their Neymar, Hazard, Dybala, Sterling, Pogba, Reus, Hazard is among the best. That's why I want him to leave Chelsea

That's fine then.

IKON360:
Pique, I look at you and I laugh, Pique has been handling deadlier and faster forwards than Rashford, and in Europe only one defender has been better than Pique, Van Dijk.

Them don use EPL hype buy you sha... Pique has seen the wrath of CR7, Prime Lewandowski, Prime Robben, Prime Bale, et al.

Van Dijk hasn't been tested by elite forwards like Messi and Ronaldo, yet he's better than Pique? Wetin you dey yarn?

Pique has been our pillar for the past 10 years and has tutored the likes of Yaya Toure, Mascherano, Abidal in UCL finals, but Van Dijk that is still in his 1st season in Europe is better?

Nawa ooh.

IKON360:
the biggest tournament in football is not UCL, its the World Cup and will always be the world cup for a long time. UCL performances dont automatically mean a player is better than another player. UCL performer this year may disappear by next year, so many players have starred in UCL, yet have not won it, it doesn't mean such a player is bad. Godin, Oblak, Pjanic, Dybala, Mandzukic, Pirlo, Ibrahimovic, Neymar(excluding that one season), Salah and co, and tons of others. Winning UCL doesn't guarantee that a player is top notch or not. Hazard is a top top player, a guaranteed starter in any team, a proven match winner, a player that other players can look up to, and extremely talented, having paltry number of UCL goals doesn't mean he is bad.

From the bold, are you really saying Hazard is on the same level bracket with Messi and Ronaldo, but just in a poor club?

Or are you saying Hazard is the next guy after Messi and Ronaldo?

Or what exactly?

Stay on one lane make I arrange the thunder.