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Deston2: This is not had work But Gods favour.............................I'm looking up for my soon next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

o yeah......another dreamer calling God.....soon you all will give dem national awards and make him a deacon in church since god obj and god elites made him rich..........lol wake up and smell the coffee .......there is no God in the game of investing...........only greed and fear

akpos4uall: I've heard that before. There must be some elements of truth in it but I think privitization is the way forward. It is just that those in power find a way to do it so that when they leave power, they are still there controlling one of the privitized stuff.


No mind am. He no do he assignment well.



I didn't know much about Transcorp until recently. She may not be into any thing but as far as the now privitized Ughelli Power Plc is concerned, Transcorp is now in charge. Judging by the reactions of staff from it and what I've heard from them, a change is on the way. It is also the reason why there is such a change on her shares value.
Life is all about risk you know. Play it well and it will work out well for you. Btw I don't know much about the stock market. I'm a newbie

guy leave dat tin.........didnt obj sell refinery to transcorp way back b4 he left office......didnt transcorp have oil blocks.....wat did yaradua do wen he came in......sell all u can .....once power change hand greed of the new powers dat be will take it back.....nija is not ready for political stability.........i didnt say i was good pre-2008 i said i was a newbie.......well if you guys want lies for the new Cinderella transcorp be my guess .....

i will speak as i have known.........thanks for all the calls coming in from nija and USA telling me i am wonderful .......at least i am telling people the truth

[quote author=steve_cantrell]Ha ha ! You got burned !
Nigerian stocks are rife with insider manipulation. We made millllllions in 2005-2007 but I will neva go back after the 2008 disaster.[/quote]thanks for telling them the truth i didnt want to share............lol

chemicstein: Nigga aswear..you are a confused man......you speak like one of those annoying classmates claiming I too know I used to detest back then in the university

u see d problem.....u believe is supply and demand.....i say its fear and greed.....we maybe saying the same things but ur words and mine are different......like they tell us ur house is an asset in accounting but in the real world ur house u live in is a liability becos it doesnt bring in cashflow.....the key thing is words.....wat do they mean to u.......u call me confused .....i call you newbie........learn the words of investing.........it will help you.....i was once like you

kolidave: nice one. 'every investor must define long term'. Really? Market close?

yes its called market close......and wen the new year comes it will be market open or we also call it the opening call.....then you will also knw the high and low of the year to know if its on a resistance point or support point so you can know when to enter or come out......besides you will also need to learn terms like double top/double bottom......swing low and swing high.......rally or bearish..... ranging or side ways....once you understand the language investing has become easy......

lancee: I gat you ,every investor must have a target and a limit ..

nope every investor must define the word long term ......is long term 1 month to u or 1 week or 1year.....thats hwo to invest.....define your words

kolidave: I'm planning to sell cos its almost December now and most investors will be looking forward to sell and get their profit thereby making the stock to fall back in price. That's what I'm avoiding,a fallback in price therefore making me loose both the profit and my money.

now you are using a trading tool called market close ......you see how with the names you will begin to follow the smart money and not the dummy money

chemicstein: Your revelations here sound irrational...I have plans of establishing a holding company wch would be into investments in stocks and bonds....is the share price not determined by forces of demand and supply again? What do you mean by pump and dump...plz enlighten me more...is stock trding in NSE not straight forward?

it is determined by greed and fear......supply and demand is wat they tell u in their books......like i said you will need to learn the language of investors to make money in the market......their are terms you will have to understand and define for urself......i have a company too but i knw wat it means now to trade wit the langauge of an investor......supply and demand only works when fear and greed is present

chemicstein: Your revelations here sound irrational...I have plans of establishing a holding company wch would be into investments in stocks and bonds....is the share price not determined by forces of demand and supply again? What do you mean by pump and dump...plz enlighten me more...is stock trding in NSE not straight forward?

it is determined by greed and fear......supply and demand is wat they tell u in their books......like i said you will need to learn the language of investors to make money in the market......their are terms you will have to understand and define for urself......i have a company too but i knw wat it means now to trade wit the langauge of an investor......supply and demand only works when fear and greed is present

debeey87: Sorry to say def lover but i would say you were not a smart investor. There is nothing to be decieved about the NSE. With the little I know, news drive the Market. Look at what happened to Forte Oil on the news of its acquisition of another power generating station. The price soared from less that 20 naira to 109. That's what the capital market is all about, be smart.

I blamed my self for not buying FO in May when it was 14naira even if it was 1000 units, I would have made over 100k now from 14000 pere. Thank God I bought Transcorp sha. I just dey folo the price jejely as he dey go up. I don't know much about the market o, but at least, God has given me wisdom to make some little decsion, same goes for Oando

Congrats to Mr Tony. I wished I bought more than I bought in Transcorp because even my broker told me there is a long queue waiting to buy and the reason is simply because people have seen a big window of opportunity in the Power sector.

For those who might think I have not lost money, I sure have but maybe not as much as you have. But thats the way the game is. Even Baba Buffet has lost millions of dollars investing but he is still called the Ifa of Omaha and he is still investing.

My advise is: Be watchful of the market, when others are panicking, shook our head carefully to see if their reason for running is actually worth it. If not, allow them to run very well and just jejely buy and cross legged and be waiting.

Cheers

plz read my post well before u classify me.....all this i said happened pre 2008 crash....i knew nothing then....so all i say no is for today stocks....dont use wat happened wen i was a dummy to say i am not smart now...all i am saying now are things i learnt now.....so plz 2008 is diff from 2013 def lover

lancee: Good for you , not ready to sell now .. some investors I know are just picking it up at this price 5.89k .. The stockbroker couldn't meet up with their orders

In as much this is some good information for buyers ...........the problem with nigerian stocks is that all we do is mostly fundamental analysis but no technical analysis to aid us make sound judgement.....we dont know when a stock hits resistance zone or not........market sentiments may be good for buyers but people like tony may want to cash in so they can buy at a lower low

Promhize: Dude, if you want to go into investment go and read books on investment, use google, their are a lot of materials available.

read Benjamin Graham's investment anlysis and intelligent investor, don't let someone teach you nonsense. Benjamin Graham was Warren Buffet's teacher so go read his books.

Don't let someone here tell you nonsense because he lost money, there's no sure/certain profitable investments you can only learn, make calculated risks and reduce your chances of loosing money.

I can assure you that guy will lead you nowhere, I told you today.

anyway i am not here to fight nor argue wit ur style .......maybe my terms are not the ones you knw..........cos investing is a language.....i made mistakes will investing and i am proud to show it....show me an investor who hasnt lost and i will show u a liar.....he asked for my help...i said ok....i wont lead him no where ....maybe but i am certain he will learn the ropes b4 he puts a dollar in ur Cinderella stock called transcorp.....investing is more about words than money

besides all he seeks is mentorship........give him one if u can...not take him to books dat may confuse him more

miky: am sure most nairalanders who get a million would only think of leaving for europe or america!!

not every1 is a kid sir......dats y we talk here on tins like dis so u will knw wat to do if u have d money

kolidave: wowww!!!! Really?!!!!!!!! This is good!!! Ma money grows like grass!!!! Happy me!!! Time to strategize wen to sell...

now this is wat i call an investor......he is looking for wen to sell......which is cashflow.......so wen people want to buy he wants to cash in and maybe wait for a little dip b4 he enters again.....so to him....long term is a few months ....not 20yrs as they will have you beleive

hisblud: will be glad to learn, the issue of forex too will be also welcome. You see you could do it wit the nigerian background and wit that am sure you would have a lot of followership

ok hit me up...08066482808 lets talk

akpos4uall: Check this out. As far as the value of the shares be right now, no be lie o

i see the chart sir.....5naira....cool but tell me can you also show from that graph if its not over bought or hitting a resistance point......you all see the numbers but dont see the hidden numbers.......its not abotu a stock going up or down its wats the new information one can see now....for some its time to cash in.....for some its time to enter ......but wats important is cashflow

Promhize: Don't mind the guy and he's calling himself an investor.

really i see people forsake sound knowledge...........its well

Promhize: Goodluck with your investment, I can see where it has gotten you to.

really.....i smh for u.....i only explained things to u.....besides i dont do stocks anymore cos there really no control over my money......i only explained investment terms and all you can see is where it got me to....anyway its ur money.....do as u wish but for any1 stock market is not a get rich quick scheme .....know the right investment words they sell to you......its where dey trick u to part with ur money.....if u knw d right words and wat it means to u....only then can you be in the smart money

Promhize: Bro seriously stop ranting, sorry for ur loss tho.
How can you say stock is not for longterm, no wonder you lost money.

Even the US you are shouting about people have lost millions on sure stocks (haven't u heard about the dotcom era, google it).

Stop misleading people.

in bizness and investing its all about cashflow.....the term long term is relative to ones definition.....wat u call long term to me maybe one week ....one month....1hr .....5mins.....it all depends on the cashflow i want to see....the issue here is words and how u define ur words.....to me long term now mins 5mins or even 1hr.....wat matters is cashflow.....is it making me money.....there is a saying in wall street....show me the money....not how long you hold a stock....besides i have being screaming control.....if u know how to define ur words u will know wat control means.....if u want to stay for ever which is gambling how will u knw wat next will happen by February next year when the next US govt short down will occur.......you think it doesnt affect us....my brother it does.....Dow jones is the main primary market and all other markets are the secondary markets.....once the Dow jones sneezes the effect is felt all over the world.....so if you must invest u must kwon how to define investing terms like LONG TERM....Short term.....flipping......hedging ........stop loss.....P.E ratio.....

all profession has a language .....d more you know them the better you will be able to invest better

Promhize: Nawa for you o! Did you even read the article, didn't you see where it said they acquired a power plant due to privatisation by FG.

guy i read it.....its not about wat they have..its about sound financial statements.....P.E ratio.....political stability......any court cases for or against them......we are not here to fight but help you see tru the smoke screen .....privatization does mean sheet until you see distribution.....dont be sentimental.......GSM is not power sector sir

hisblud: hi did you check my post? Pls consider it.

oh my you dont say.....alot of people have asked me to start a blog ......i dont knw wat to do.....i fear if people will be interested in what i write....i am not the conventional writer but wow i think i will start a blog .......but will people follow me.. ..i dont know....people are more concerned about sports,weather, fashion trend... ..will they like to know where their money goes.. ....hmmmmm right now i have an audition for monday on the knoor taste quest.... .....yes i cook so well....and i am preparing for it....

but if you all wat me to write.........who am i to say no.....so i will open a blog but u will help me to show me the ropes on how to start one ok

if you do then i will write all you want to know about

MAITEMA: You've got yourself a fortune then. With the privatisation of the Power sector and the company now a major player, the sky is your limit. I wish I had an inkling of what was in the offing, I would have bought at least 1million units when it was trading at 50kobo. Another missed opportunity.

now dis is wat i want to hear u say.....not dat one is crying but how to make sound investment .........we d seasoned once should help newbies filter news flash and let them know wat dey are going into.......

bigass: i bought 80000 units at 7.5 with 600k. it went down. i stayed till 0.50k i bought 2million units with 1million Naira my total shares when to 2080000units in Transcorp. i sold all at btw 1.80-1.95Naira in 2011. i got 3.8million. i entered at back at 1.40k,bought 3million units. i am yet to sell them. Chritsmas will be good.

my sister u did well cos u hard some other money u used to buy.....alot of people used their last card.....i wont call dis lucky cos everyone knows dat 50 kobo is the level any stock can reach even wen its wit C.A.C.......

u went back in to cover ur loss its called hedging.....
i salute u for ur boldness and sound financial knowledge but truth me.....people committed suicide .....turned drunks and broken homes happened.....i lost my former life....no movies....no staying in the pubs....no vacations.....no plane flights....no weekend getaways.....no random gals sampling.....lol the bes t part

but all in all i am here.....love to meet a female investor .....dey are sexy

MAITEMA: Me a paid agent? I can’t stop laughing. You have no idea what I have been through. I got wiped out of millions of Naira on Oceanic Bank (peanuts given as Ecobank shares) and lost all on Bank PHB. [b]When you invest and lose learn to take your loss and not come crying in a public forum like a baby. If Transcorp was selling for N100 today would you come and tell us how much you are worth?

I never bought Transcorp anyway because I didn’t see potential from the onset, but now with the Power Sector contract, I bet there is light at the end of the tunnel. The power sector looks like the next Telecoms sector.[/b]

i am so so ashamed to hear dis from a man who says he is an investor.....i am crying ....did you just say dat......look we have knowledge dats key....if i say it was only transcorp i dey lie....i lost millions mate.....but we need to help newbies filter all news flash and dont let dem fall prey to lies they sell to the public.....i gave u an assignment to do....u didnt explain it....did i lie hear or share valid information.....i thought places like dis is to help each other to make informed investment.....

u may say dey have power contracts....but hw much will dey borrow to complete it.....how much of their assets is at stake.....power is not like telecoms.....telecome u can do in a small room and broadcast and u dont need distribution to take it to d end user.....power u can do also in a small room but even ur small i beta pass my neighbor generator u need wire to carry the power it produces to ur house.....so power may improve but trust me its a great investment pool these companies will find it hard to pull the funds to do

moshino: Which "small, stuggling Nigerian commercial bank" did Tony Elumelu "acquire and build into UBA"? As I understand it, UBA was existing before Tony Elumelu was born, and Tony came from Standard Trust Bank, which UBA acquired while Hakeem Bello Osagie was MD at UBA. Tony Elumelu was among bank MDs that helped govt officials steal and launder Nigeria's commonwealth. Tony Elumelu was also involved in Massive money laundering scheme with UBA, New York, see this; http://saharareporters.com/interview/uba-new-york-branch-money-laundering-haven.
Tony Elumelu's brother, Ndudili Elumelu was the house of reps member involved in reaping off multi-billion naira of Nigeria's commonwealth. Have we all forgetten all these so soon, that we now hail Tony Elumelu as a genius!

God will bless you........lets expose these lazy ass elites that make you believe they are hard working.....dey are all thieves in power...from dangote down to all of them...dangote is the new Abiola....as dey used Abiola to steal us blind dey are using dangote....

MAITEMA: since you know so much about investing....can you explain this to me sir

The fraud called investing in the stock market/ TRANSCORP

1. a group of people come to gather to start a company....no money involved ....just hand shake and its registered at the C.A.C and quoted wit C.A.C at 50kobo per unit....dis is known as limited liability company
2. they start paper works to take it to SEC and its now 2nair 50kobo......... the new game is private placement
3.it is approved by SEC and now quoted at 7naira 50kobo ....its called initial public offer
4.its bought over buy you and i and its called over subscribed......
5. the game begins since they didn't use any money from the start only paper agreements that makes it look like cash.... wink wink wink wink they cash in the money made from you and i .....its called cash flow grin grin grin grin grin
6. your money still there since they know cos of your greed u wont go out and sell it to u dat investing is for long term.......its called gambling grin grin grin

and later they start all over again.........its called pump and dump........ angry angry angry angry angry dont be fooled mate.......its all a game ......DMX said always know the rules of the game b4 u play..... wink wink wink wink

MAITEMA: [b]You lack investment and entrepreneurial gutsy. You panicked and sold your Transcorp shares at N1.50k as a result of (paper) loss. Investors are not supposed to panic especially when shares go below purchase price, when you do, your loss actually crystallises. It is paper loss when you still hold your shares in view of future appreciation. This is exactly what happened in this case.

Anyway, Transcorp has skyrocketed and is not even available in the market for purchase. This is a result of the Power contract they got from PHCN privatisation by the Federal Government. They have bought the Ughelli power plant and there is now huge potential for profitability for the company in the coming years.

Learn from your mistakes and don't rant like a clueless toddler.[/b]

another paid agent......i didnt panic.......in trading its called stop loss......cut the loss if i should make it a lame man's way......u stop it if u cant take the loss.....so now its like hw much 1naira 50kobo abi.....how long will it take to get back to 9naira 71 kobo....sir..... wats the P.E ratio..........do u have enuff control...... i dont care if its no more available...stop selling lies.....we need to help those dat knw nuffin about investment.........wats an asset ....its anytin dat once bought doesnot need to take too much time to start giving cashflow.......wats a liability its anytin dat wont bring in cashflow on time.....

so since january 2007 i should be waiting abi........dats pure gambling in investment terms...... guy i am not a kid trust me .....i don learn

[quote author=AB$I]fork off and fork u and dem[/quote]really i should.....did you just say dat.....look i am a seasoned investor......i took d fall and coming up the ladder is no joke.....if u must win in this game....learn the ropes .....not some fancy gal or guys dat come on air to tell u how good it is to buy and hold for a long time

udifrancis: God will continue to bless him.

yeah god OBJ and all the other elites god u will say......grow up and dont add d true God to dis.....all dey do is steal ur money legally.....how will u explain dis.....
1. a group of people come to gather to start a company....no money involved ....just hand shake and its registered at the C.A.C and quoted wit C.A.C at 50kobo per unit....dis is known as limited liability company
2. they start paper works to take it to SEC and its now 2nair 50kobo......... the new game is private placement
3.it is approved by SEC and now qouted at 7naira 50kobo ....its called initial public offer
4.its bought over buy you and i and its called over subscribed......
5. the game begins since dey didnt use any money from the start only paper agreements dat makes it look like cash.... they cash in the money made from you and i .....its called cash flow
6. your money still there since dey kwn cos of ur greed u wont go out and sell it to u dat investing is for long term.......its called gambling

and later they start all over again.........its called pump and dump........ dont be fooled mate.......its all a game ......DMX said always know the rules of the game b4 u play.....

my 2 cents fellow investors

kingphemy: Tony, I can do nothing but thank you.

As an undergraduate, I bought 10000 units of transcorp shares with money borrowed from my mum. To my consternation, it falls from 7.5naira to 0.5naira in leads than 18 months! And it took a while to pay back the loan.

Lesson learned? Stocks investing is for the long-termed for average people.

another cheap lie you were sold......stocks is not for long term its for cash flow......as long as its not bringing in cash flow den its trash

poseidon12: pls which Broker are u using for online stock trading?

i dont do nigeria stocks sir......we have not gotten to dat level....for now i focus on forex and all the other online trading financial securities .....i learn d hard way....lost all i had....left d UK broke....came back home....but i am wiser now

Lightening: Bloody perssimist. Read Tony's dossier and give him due credit. There are still many hardworking Nigerians.

yeah right .....look all they say is diff from wat dey do.......investing is all about greed and fear.....dey play it better......dont be fooled abt d fancy books dey sell to u.......i careless .........all i see it wat is the financial statement ......wat is the P.E ratio.....wat control do i have over d stock....can i get in and out as i please......trust me if u felt d pain we felt back den u will forget d ivy towers he went to and focus on control cos wen d sheet hits d fan....u alone will feel d pain dats y its called ordinary shares.....he has preferred shares..........dont be fooled

dont be fooled my people in investing its called pump and dump.........its a legal way to steal your money.....they take it up and later cash in once your money is in and re-buy it again wen it has dropped ............one question u should ask is wat is transcorp offering apart from d transcorp hiton hotel wey i dey spend my money too on wen i go there....they have no investment ....dey tell u dey are into agriculture, real estate, oil and gas dat dey have lost d oil blocks wen yaradua became president..........so tell me wat are dey into other than to manipulate stocks.....when you understand the game u will see clear......wats the P.E ratio of the stock....let me let u knw dat P.E ration mins d debt:equity of a stock .......meaning how much do they owe d bank and how much asset do they have.....wateva it is if its above 2 it means it will take u 2yrs to double ur money......i am smarter in this game even if i have lost a fortune......i tell u cos i dont want any of u to go tru wat i went tru......

na devil go soda their yansh .........from dangote to indi okereke to all of dem......dey sold us a lie....i bought 68,000 unit for 512,000 naira at 7naira 50 kobo and it was quoted at 9naira seventy-one kobo but wat happened it nose dived to 50kobo even wen i wanted out they refuse to dematerialize till i was able to get out at 1naira 40 kobo now they are pumping it again to fool people so later they will dump it....dont be fooled....one thing they have is control....you as an investor dont have control over the shares.....i am now a skilled investor and i will neva touch nigerian stocks again.....if its not online trading i wont touch it