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Odunnu:
Would you please kindly leave this thread alone?we dont need your analytic skill here.
There's a proBB thread somewhere,you can display your awesome talent there.
Thank you.

One, who are you to ask me to leave a thread or tell me what to do? I honestly hope you are ok? Secondly, did u see me analyse anything here? just wanted to know what has made this candidate thick to some peeps. unfortunately, it has been folly all the way to me so far.

i am for him is because i see him as no-yes man. he is not answerable to anyone except the Nigerian public. he is indebted to no one, no godfather and man of himself. Other candidates cant boast of this. Very courageous, incorruptible, intelligent, focus and highly discliplined with a very good and achievable vision. tell me what else do i need from a leader.

strangest:
Good morning, Mr. moderator , accurate time keeper and my fellow debaters

AFTER GOING THROUGH BUHARI'S RESUME

--53 suite cases?
---murder of Barth. Owoh, and 2 other Yoruba youngsters for drug peddling?
---locking up Ekwueme, Ajasin, Lar, and Ambrose Alli?
---speaking for Fulani herdsmen who were terrorizing the inhabitants of Ondo, without asking about the Ondo people equally harmed by his kinsmen
---locking up Nduka Irabo


and Jonathan's Resume

http://www.onlinenigeria.com/links/LinksReadPrint.asp?blurb=640




JONATHAN REMAINS ON TOP

Achievements is what we are looking out for here and not life history.

gymer:
God bless Alitheia, Agaba123 and Efisher (Amen). I am impress with your debt of knowledge on issues. I have been well educated with your information on Buhari. I cannot be deceived. GEJ has my vote.

oo yes congrats to you too. At least you got what you were looking for originally. Gudluck To you.

activities:
I still don't believe that some politicians don't have the ballout papers till now.
Anyway this a  way to rig d election.

Just spoken to one of my fathers in Ilesha osun state and i heard an interesting development.
He told me they didnt allow the INEC officials to go away with the ballot papers that were used and unused. they made sure all the papers were burnt in their presence before they left
The polity is really hot and concious.

ojofree:
Since Obama is so democratic we should be saying OBAMA/BIDEN, my friend admit it, BUHARI simply does not have what it takes,

The bolded made no sense to me please kindly expantiate. I cant admit that notion of yours, Give me reasons that makes him not have what it takes?

agabaI23:
And in another way he has no credential as a person without Idiagbon.

In PTF it was Afro consultants my friend. Under his nose 14% (25B) of the money that accrued to PTF was misappropriated and he was not aware of the monumental corruption.

since this point of his is multi-faceted and could be seen in many ways then it should be thrown into the bin and not valid. What do you think?

As at then, PTF = BUHARI. not many, infact few (most likely the contractors) knew about those consultants. he was definately in charge of PTF. U mean this money was misappropriated and the man OBJ sent to clean up the place to nail buhari didnt dig it out instead he himself find himself in jail for stealing millions of dollars. i doubt this very much

roxell120:
AND WHO IS THIS CANDIDATE U ARE PROMOTING? BUHARI? LETS TALK ABOUT HIM.WHO IS THIS MAN? [b]A MILITARY DICTATOR WHO TOPPLED A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT IN HIS QUEST FOR POWER? TO ME HE IS NOT A TRUE BELIEVER OR PROPONENT OF DEMOCRACY AND THATS SUMS IT UP.[/b]IF HE IS WISE ENOUGH HE SHOULD KNOW WHEN TO CALL IT QUITS LIKE THE WELL RESPECTED EKWUEME. ANYWAY HE IS TAKING HIS LAST DANCE SHAMELESSLY.REMEMBER HE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1999 AND HE CANT READ THE WRITING ON THE WALL.

O yes. A former military leader that toppled a democratically elected goverment that the whole populace agreed was rigged in and swimming in corruption. His goverment was welkom unfortunately by a vast number of the populace then. His actions over the recent years has shown that he is a true beliver of democracy no doubt and to me he is a better alternative instead of GEJ.
Ur opinion is noted as per calling him to call it quit but thank God you are not the constitution and we all knows what the constitution says about that. he will surely quit no doubt one day like all. He has a better chance this time around.

ojofree:
Buhari simply lacks the presence, carriage and charisma to be a leader, that is why his is the only government that needed appending the name of a junior officer as a suffix IDIAGBON to lend it respectability, we always remember that era as the BUHARI-IDIAGBON REGIME , Nigerians never bothered with him, everybody held IDIAGBON in higher esteem, have you never wondered why it wasn't BABANGIDA/AIKHOMU or ABACHA/DIYA? those rulers had the presence and charisma, Buhari simply lacks it, if you notice, history is repeating itself, even his apologists find themselves calling him BB (BUHARI BAKARE)

well, i see it in a different way if this your assertion is right. that shows he is not such a dictatorial person as he is being accused. he likes to carry every one along which is a democratic quality. However his management skills arent in doubt. He showed us this when he was in PTF and excelled greatly with enough results to show for it. or do you know of any assistant of his (assistant chairman-PTF) during those days?

Onlytruth:
What these Buhari goons don't understand is that OBJ's rule between 1999 - 2007 changed a lot of things in Nigeria, and opened a lot of eyes.
Before OBJ, no one ever thought of becoming a life president in Nigeria, which is always a tendency by military or ex-military leaders throughout Africa.
Obasanjo proved that such a thing can happen in Nigeria, and folks like Buhari must have seen these and nodded quietly.

Mark my word, Buhari will attempt LIFE presidency if he ever wins. Then, we shall see how long the country will stay together as one.

I will repeat it again, some of the people supporting Buhari here don't, or no longer  believe in One Nigeria.

All these things will become apparent soon.  

ok ur opinion is noted. we will wait and see till then.

roxell120:
can anyone remember when last he/she spent hours in qeues in any filling station nationwide. does nobody here notice that our refinaries accross the country are up and running.plz let gej be.[b]i always shed tears whenever i remember his speech during his declaration of intention to run for 2011 presidential election.[/b]in him i saw a man who in all intents and purposes craves to deliver his country but surrounded by usurpers and detractors that cant let his efforts translate to actions and eventual practicalization. MAY GOD HELP GEJ

and that is what that useless party wants to sell to us. so many people also started from an humble biginning and not only GEJ. GEJ seems to be a good person but him being in the midst of crooks, thieves, vipers and their kinds, their is no way he can succed on that seat no matter his good intentions. However, we av a better alternative so why dont we utilize it. Only a good bird at hand is better than a million in the bush my bro.

agabaI23:
See this my friend

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/03/how-buhari-jailed-his-campaign-dg-in-1984-by-daiyabu/

ABUJA - Further insight was given yesterday into General Muhammadu Buhari’s style of leadership with a revelation alleging that the Director General of his campaign organisation, Dr. Sule Hamman, was sent to jail by the former in 1984 as part of those he hauled into detention immediately after taking over through a military coup on December 31, 1983.

This was part of the views expressed by fiery politician from Kano, Mallam Abdulkarim Daiyabu, in a telephone interview with Vanguard yesterday.

Daiyabu, who was a protégé of late Mallam Aminu Kano and the Yoruba sage, Chief Obafemi Awolowo, also revealed that General Buhari, who is the presidential candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change, CPC, may have lost a golden opportunity to win the presidential election slated for April 9, 2011.

The Kano-based politician told Vanguard that Buhari remains an uncorrupt and incorruptible individual but alleged that “it is for people like Buhari to answer why the person he sent to jail in 1984 when he took over as Head of State and Commander-in-Chief of the Federal Republic of Nigeria should today be the Director General of his campaign, Dr. Sule Hamman.

He sent many people to jail for looting the treasuries in their states when he became Head of State and Commander-in-Chief.

“That is a question he would have to answer and tell Nigerians the reason.  In fact, it remains curious for me and I suspect that there are some people in Buhari’s campaign organisation who may be advising him wrongly”.

Asked to pr[b]ovide evidence of his suspicion, Daiyabu explained that “what I expected Buhari to have done, as a man who is respected by many because they see him as being clean, is to have accepted the platform provided by the Action Congress of Nigeria, ACN”.[/b]

there is nothing in this opinion of this politician that suggest that the man in question was corrupt. Please kindly bring one that suggests such.

agabaI23:
There is no newspaper article on it I can show you but I have seen articles that showed that Buhari court marshalled all the prisoners before throwing them into prisons.
Source:hereOk I was thinking you need a shapely woman to help your head out

Irrespective of where one is jailed, a corrupt person is a corrupt person. The article i quoted was from the eye of an admirer.Where will you get the evidence? If there was an evidence, I would not have used alleged.

Which means the guy could be innocent and i have no doubt that he is among the innocent.

Adeoladada:
[color=Black]I keep on hearing about this increase of 4000MW, Please which day are we going to see the evidence? You say he has unveiled a roadmap and executed it. If this has happened why is there no noticeable improvement in our power sector? Instead all I have noticed is a degeneration of our power supply. I live in the FCT. The nations capital and till today I see light at most, 3hrs a week[/color]



MAY BE U ARE LIVING IN NASSARAWA STATE,OR U DONT MEAN TO MENTION ABUJA OR U HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TRANSFORMER IN YOUR AREA. Although it has nt increase drastically but it is getting better,let us stop all this false posting at least for once. REM.THIS IS A WEBSITE NT YOUR ROOM DISCUSSION

well, to me also, it isnt getting better. i am located in PH and getting worse by the day at least where i am. one GEJ suporter claimed in another thread that the so called increased MW is directed to the industries and this i disprove vehemently

agabaI23:
So what is his selling point again? [b]Dr. Sule Hamman is the one alleged to have used financial inducement to make [/b]Buhari the northern consensus candidate. A leopard cannot change its skin.

Thank God u used the word alledged. any evidence please to this effect?

[quote author=Dav.e link=topic=635376.msg8043390#msg8043390 date=1301841873]@ Demdem
So what are you driving at? - Dr. Hamman could have been one of the innocent citizens jailed by Buhari?[/quote]Most likely until i see something to the contrary.

agabaI23:
So because one of them is now an ally of your saints, not all of them were corrupt?

Just the way all the PDP members are corrupt and then turn saints the moment they become CPC members. Double standard guys?

First and foremost, no-one has called Buhari a saint and he is definately not one. secondly, its a known fact that the not all that were arrested during the military regime of Buhari were trully guity of the offence they were charged with (characteristics of a military regime not perculiar to naija alone).
There is no double standards here.

aletheia:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-612263.0.html

very sorry to say this. ebenezer Babatope is someone i know very well. infact we are families (one of our elders) however his words arent what i can honour. my opinion though.

@Agba
remember that this was a military government coming to play here. all those peps were in one way or the other part of the previous civillian govt that was generally believed to be corrupt. there was a sort of blanket arrest. some of them were (e.g Dikko and his likes) while some werent.

read my post again oga

agabaI23:
Dr. Sule Hamman is a man he jailed in 1984 for corruption. Dr. Sule Hamman is his campaign DG

ok if its so, so many peeps were jailed for this same corruption charge then that includes Ekwueme, Pa Ajasin, ambrose Ali etc. the question is were they trully corrupt (at least the three i mentioned now)? better still, show me evidences that these three gentlemen were corrupt.

efisher:
Same restriction of movement as usual. But let's wait for 9 o'clock news tonight for final word.

i dont watch NTA news. will stick to channels at 10pm, thanks anyway.

Koikoi:
what will movement be like 2morrow? Any info?

abegii someone should answer this question ooo. i really need to move tommorrow.

i cant belive I and Evil brain are on the same page here

marvix:
Demdem I agree with u, but u wld agree that corruption has to be dealt with systematically, because as it is now corruption is systematically entrenched in the system.

Buharis style and Ribadus style of fighting corruption may only plunge us into a deeper mess, I prefer the Jonathan way of fighting corruption allow the agencies fight corruption allow more information and allow the issues come 2 public domain.

Justice always grinds slowly but surely, so we must mitigate new corrupt acts by placing checks that will make it impossible to get away with a corrupt act and maybe legalise some acts that are corrupt 2day so we can all benefit from them.

but they are not even doing it. no results so far. Remember what transpired before the ICPC acting chairman was booted? if GEJ is surely doing what you claim up there, i will have no qualms with him as far as corruption is concerned. only God knows what farida is doing, she has been quiet for some months now. infact there are words out there that he is working behind the scene to bring back ibori. that will be catasrophic if it comes to past. these agencies arent doig what they are expected to do yet they add to the recurrent expenditure of this govt.

however Buhari/ribadu style of fighting may not be best but i dont see how it will plunge us into deeper mess? can you expantiate on this. To the best of my knowledge, these guys promised that they will lead by example among other things.

Sun of god:
Is this man in prison right now?

If not, then what is he currently doing?

[img]http://static.168ora.hu/db/09/65/abacha-mohammed-d0000F96570f926158c33.jpg[/img]

CPC - Party of Hypocrites, Coup Plotters and Looters.

please whose responsibility is it to prosecute all looters, criminals of whatsoever form? Ode buruku.

Goodyness:
Guess the point the OP was trying to make is for the BB team to anchor their campaign on issues rather than the anti corruption mantra. CPC had the chance to stop Mohammed Abacha from contesting for the guber primaries but didn't take it.

Again, does it not amount to double standards when an ex-convict (someone that you jailed for corruption) is your campaign director?

Goodyness please take time to read thorugh the responses of NL marrisa at the beginning of this thread. he has done justice to this issue however the OP isnt satisfied. how best do u think CPC would have stop Mohammed from contesting? Are u aware that the case is presently in court as we are speaking?
These are basicaly propangandas. its welkom thogh. i see no double standards here.

please electoral reform isnt an achievement as far as this govt is concerned. here was what i posted in another thread.

I will like to say that electoral reforms shouldnt be added to any of GEJ's ahievement if at all he has any. I have always asked those that profess this that what has GEJ done in this regard? He gave us Jega and nothing more. Why was the Uwais report not implemented? all these logistical problems and others were envisaged and solutions proffered but GEJ's goverment threw it to the bin.
We can never have a free and fair election in this country with this present system. even if a 'saintier' person than Jega is appointed, we still cant have it. This GEJ knows and him and his party has refused to do the right thing. The present system favours them no doubt.
GEJ once again you have failed in this regard.
That party, PDP, must be booted out. Simple.

marvix:
A lot of peeps here have failed to understand that Power became an issue recently, but it was not caused by those ruling today, but the past leaders since 1980.

I have said it before that it is because we now have a larger percentage of the population exposed to power supply that is why it has become an issue, uptill 1999 my hometown in Edo state did not have electricity.

If truly what is said about the power generation been 1500MW when Obj took over, then the PDP has tried in bringing it up to 3800MW despite the amount of corruption in their system.

A commentator criticised Jonathan on paying only terrorists from his side of the country allowances and not other terrorist, but I am sure that person forgot that it was Yaradua a man from the same state as Buhari who acknowledged that the Niger Delta militants were justified in their agitation and that was why he granted them amnesty, forgiving them for all the nations soldiers they have killed in the past and openly asked for their forgiveness of their people that have been killed in the crisis, this is also what Obj from the same party and a southerner failed to do in his 8yrs while he was levelling communities in the Niger Delta, dont forget that the same Yaradua was the man who gave the command to shoot at sight at the Boko haram militia and even the extra njudicial killing of the leader had implicitly been given by Yaradua, this is a man of striong conviction.

If anyone still believes that corruption is our single biggest challenge, that person should realise that the day you attempt to solve corrption by force in a democracy like ours you may as well say good bye to the nation called nigeria becase I have looked at it critically and concluded that as at today corruption is the thread that holds our country together as one, remove corruption and give me one good reason why we should exploit oil in the Nigerdelta and build roads in the North west?

I respect ur opinion but i viciously disagree with you. Corruption does more evil than good (if at all there is any) to us as a nation and should be eradicated to the barest minimum.

I will like to say that electoral reforms shouldnt be added to any of GEJ's ahievement if at all he has any. I have always asked those that profess this that what has GEJ done in this regard? He gave us Jega and nothing more. Why was the Uwais report not implemented? all these logistical problems and others were envisaged and solutions proffered but GEJ's goverment threw it to the bin.
We can never have a free and fair election in this country with this present system. even if a 'saintier' person than Jega is appointed, we still cant have it. This GEJ knows and him and his party has refused to do the right thing. The present system favours them no doubt.
GEJ once again you have failed in this regard.
That party, PDP, must be booted out. Simple.

pls can i drive out now?

^^^ Fhemmy the auto merchant has just joined the discusion.