₦airaland Forum

babytoun:
are you surprised? this man only has dan fodio kind of islamic zeal. he lacks brain capacity to even manage a local govt.

Madam, please how is that so? can you kindly tell me how he got that wrong. However below is the full report to help us have a better understanding.


The presidential candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change, Gen Muhammadu Buhari, has said he cancelled the proposed Lagos metro rail line project that was initiated by the government of Alhaji Lateef Jakande because he did not want to take more loans or devalue the naira.

The Lagos metro rail line was designed by the Jakande government to facilitate transportation within Lagos and surroundings but was terminated when Buhari military regime took over in December, I983.

Buhari, while speaking in Lagos on Wednesday at the presentation of his party manifesto, said when he got into power, the relatively stable economy, which was handed over to the government of Alhaji Shehu Shagari, had been badly plundered and corruption was rife in every sector. He added that the rail line project was meant to cost N100m, which was a large sum of money then, and the Federal Government was asked to guarantee the loan meant for the project.

He said, “Then, we didn’t know how much debt was on us as a nation and we felt that we should not add another N100m to it. I had to set up two committees to assess how much we owed and we promised not to take more loans or to devalue the naira but to develop the economy.”

Buhari argued that tagging him an enemy of Lagos State because he cancelled that project was mischievous and unfair, stating that the first one billion naira he spent when he was heading Petroleum Trust Fund was on Victoria Island and Ikoyi waterworks in Lagos.

Earlier, in Ikoyi, while meeting with the youth Buhari told them it was important to vote wisely as their choice will affect their generations more than his.

His running mate, Pastor Tunde Bakare, who presented the party manifesto, said God raised Buhari for Nigeria. Bakare said that within the first 100 days in office, Nigerians would begin to feel their impact. He said their party symbol was a pen because they would use it to rewrite the history of Nigeria and that after their tenure, there would be no more military intervention in Nigeria forever.

“We will begin by initiating action with the legislature so that true federalism can be entrenched in Nigeria at all levels. We call our country Federal Republic of Nigeria but we are neither a federation nor a republic. We have a lopsided government where everything reflects round the centre but we will push for true federalism in which we will have strong local governments, strong states and strong Federal Government. We will address our crippling economy by bringing in the best brains both at home and abroad. For too long, we have left politics and governance to the clueless but we want to attract the best and brightest to our government.”

Bakare also said they would be working with the legislature to expunge the immunity clause that shields the public officers from prosecution. On issues of security, Bakare said that they would be have both state and community policing system with laws put in place to prevent their abuse by power drunk tyrants.

The former Minister of the Federal Capital Territory, Mallam Nasir El-Rufai, said since they left office in 2007, the nation’s wealth had been plundered.


http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201104076271678

U seem to amaze me greatly and its obvious u have refused to get off my back. anyway, im at home for u.
I said u should check my first post on this issue, did u? obviously not because if u had u would av seen the below

Demdem:
What about the so called previous attrocities of Buhari that has been repeatedly pasted? what have you said about that? Please free the guy and let him paste it as much as possible because some havent seen it while those who have seen it seems not to understand it since they see no sense in it and yet ask questions this same article has answered.

while my second post on the same issue was

Demdem:
The guy has a single post and so what? he is probably new here. If there is need for me to post it i will and will again as long as forum rules aint broken. I am still asking you what you have done about the previous attrocities of Buhari that have been pasted severally. What have you said about it?

so agba plese kindly be patient and calm before rushing to post. Goodluck to you

agabaI23:
Oh mai gaskyia, your saviour, the gentle man who is so humble and unassuming perpetrated atrocities? Good morning!

oga check my first post on this issue, i did say so called attrocities. Anyway, no one is denying the fact that some uncomfortable things were done by the militarygovt which Buhari headed and such and even worse things are expected from military govt all over the world. This is a civillian and democratic setting, and the question should be >>>>> are these things possible in this democratic setting? The answer is most likely No so please stop instilling fear on the minds of Nigerians.
Buhari might not be the saviour but is the best so far among the miserable rest

agabaI23:
You call people  ediot for having differing opinions?

Nop, air ur opinion even if different from mine and no yawa afterall i'm not the first on this thread. i called those that will attack me on this idiots in advance.

This is ludicross. I blame GEJ.

_{U idiots that will attack me on this, i am definately ready for u. Bring it on}

naijaking1:
^^^
Why don't you paste it yourself!
Why should the guy change his ID and paste the same article over and over again. Itsbb has only one post from simply recycling this old article. I wish the moderators have a rule against such insincereity.

The guy has a single post and so what? he is probably new here. If there is need for me to post it i will and will again as long as forum rules aint broken. I am still asking you what you have done about the previous attrocities of Buhari that have been pasted severally. What have you said about it?

naijaking1:
Shame on you for recycling this silly article all over the N/L. This must be the 1000th time somebody is pasting the same piece with a different ID. No wonder you have only 1 post to your ID.
This is article they paste whenever anyone asks for Buhari's achievements

What about the so called previous attrocities of Buhari that has been repeatedly pasted? what have you said about that? Please free the guy and let him paste it as much as possible because some havent seen it while those who have seen it seems not to understand it since they see no sense in it and yet ask questions this same article has answered.

EOS:
kicking against voting for Buhari or Jonathan is not the matter for now. What matter most at this period of time is election should be peaceful, credible, free and fair, and results should be announced at each polling unit. Since we are all educated, there is no need to be lectured on the two candidates. We know the candidates abilities, their records and performances very well. Let the D day decide. FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN!

i hope for this also but i know it will never happen. its still the same system remember.

aletheia:
^Really? The lies you BB people tell. Do you think building a power station is like looking beans?

Did you completely read my post at all? are you saying the report from BBC where the story originated from is false? What lies are we peddling now?
Abegii, lets stick to issues ok.

agabaI23:
God bless you bensonite

Please enlighten me on the difference between the power policy during OBJ's goverment and the current govt? The issue here isnt the policy perse, we are good planners in Nigeria (except the INEC issue). The boils down to leadership,sincerity of purposed as canvassed by shakarau. The best of plans wont actualize itself. it needs those human resources for it to come to past. As it it right now, the human resources needed to implement such isnt just there depite being in abundance.

Bensonite:
I am surprise one of the pro Buharist is saying he knows this is democracy and that he would do things differently. Is it possible to learn to be left handed at old age(69+) or can a leopard change her skins? This man destroyed Nigeria nascent democracy and should have been charged for treason but now comes to claim to be  democratic without apology for all the atrocities. If his intention for the coup were geniune why didn't he handover to civilians after one year. Babangida came and wanted to remain forever(which is what Buhari would have done also) but Nigerians fought till we got back this democracy and he wants to be a beneficiary by contesting for the presidency.
A man who failed woefully at the unpopular NN24 debate- not in consonance to modern realities. In his manifesto probably written by Bakere on the issue of power- claimed he can generate 16,000MW in four years. If only he understands the engineering complexities involve in achieving 1000MW and the timeline in completing same he would not make much nonsense promise. The roadmap to Power as it is currently been implemented will get us to the promiseland of steady power not just saying something without a clue what it entails.

What engineering complexities are u reffering to? Are you establishing or inventing anything new. The technology is already there. You still need to learn a lot.




China is now building about two power stations every week, the top climate change official at the UK Foreign Office, John Ashton, has said.

He said there was no point blaming China for rising global CO2 emissions.

Rich nations had to set an example of low-carbon development for China to follow, Mr Ashton told the BBC.

His statement came as a new report suggested that China may have already become the world's biggest polluter - much earlier than expected.

The Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency said China's CO2 emissions had risen by 9% last year, compared with 1.4% in the US.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6769743.stm



There is definately no excuse why it has (and still) taken us this long. It boils down to sincerity of the leadership.

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i need to sleep now

wow, good place to be to relax. The politics section is simply crazy. Seun is really breeding some mad souls on nairaland no doubt.

efisher:
His problem is more than the "figure" of his age. It is his ideology that cannot be changed anymore. Have you heard the parable "You cannot teach an old dog new tricks". Can he change in a rapidly changing world? How will he react when things start moving fast around him. That is why I used the world class CEOs as an example. Some of them are made to retire compulsorily at 60. Find out why. Sometimes the extremely good ones are left in the system but only as advisers. Buhari has a system of thinking that cannot be changed and we should not gamble the fate of the country on that. Let him come out with the key issues and then we will know he is thinking. Politics of sentiments and emotions is the old order and he doesn't know better than that.

On corruption, his "integrity" has nothing to do with how well he can fight corruption. In democracy, you fight corruption by putting control systems in place and encouraging a strong legal system. You cannot use a koboko in this age to "make" people to stop being corrupt. Little boys will use him to do shege! We need someone who will be smart enough to know the kinds of policies to implement in order to control corruption. He has not come out to tell us the kinds of structures he will put in place to achieve his goal. All he has said is "I will probe x and y" and I have a system that I will introduce. Is he the one that will judge the case? Is it not the same set of people we have today that will do the probes? How long will the probes take? Will he re-probe all that has been probed before? What ever new system he intends to introduce will need to go through the Parliament. His corruption agenda is extremely ambiguous and has no substance. It is hinged on one thing "When he was the head of state, he flogged people with koboko and put a lot of people (those who were against his government or ideology) in jail". Finito!

well its good to know that some of them still retain even as advisers just like you have postulated (though i dont completely agree with you). A president of a nation doesnt work alone. he will definately bring in hands he feels are capable of actualising his desired dream. all he needs to do to a competent hand he has hired is to explain what exactly he/she wants to achieve and the hand hired will go all out to actualise it. there is nothing absolutely wrong with Buhari's line of thinking. on several occassions he (or any of his proxy) has come out to deny all these allegations against him. the kind of politics he is presently playing (which he strongly believe in) is all-encompassing and not that of emotions and sentiments you and others are accusing him of. he is definately reaching out to all and sundry.

Its unfortunate u think he intends using the same sytem he used during the military era as far as corruption is concerned. he did say that this is a democratic setting and he is bound to obey the constitution. whatever he will do in this regard will be done under the ambients of the law but one thing i am rest assured of is what Buhari says he will do, he will do (his records on/off military era speaks for itself). He said he will reduce corruption in Nigeria to the bearest minimum but he didnt say he will be flogging up and down.

I agree with you on how to fight corruption and thats really the basic for all law-abiding countries and to be honest its working but you will agree with me that thats not what we have presently even though we are made to believe such. This govt doesnt in anyway have the politiacal will to actualise even the basic ingredient to fight corruption, however Buhari has promised that IN ADDITION TO THAT, he for one will lead by example. He suggested the removal of the immunity clause which he promised to champion (that to me shows sincerity, this Govt can never never never do such). He is more or else saying that i will be accountable not by words but by actions. whatever he will do, it will be within the constitution of the federation.

About probe (I for one i'm for it even though many will be against this) i think it should be done and it doesnt neccessary mean that it will deter or stop deveopments (these are lies from PDP). i strongly believe developments and growth can go hand in hand with probes for a focus leader. He promised to probe and prosecute those found wanting and i think that should be encouaged because it will deter those who still intend to perpetuate such frauds. peeps must be reminded that whatever you do will be accounted for no matter how long it takes and in a way i also see it as indirectly fighting corruption. Peeps held accountable for past actions even if it was decades ago. of cos some probes have taken place but with no results because of this same corruption we are talking about

efisher:
While the constitution has set the limits, it is left for us to use our brains in working within those limits. If you are the CEO of a bank in Nigeria, will you appoint an old, almost retiring former bank manager of the 80's who doesnt know how to use a computer? Or someone who has no idea about current trends in the industry? Or someone who has been out of the banking world for 20 years? Especially when there are other more promising candidates around with more energy to spare.

You may not agree but this is my opinion and the opinion of many others as regards this topic: Why You'll Never Vote For Muhammadu Buhari?

Thank God u agreed that there are no limits so 1) he has every right to go for that seat even if he is 150yrs and again its left for Nigerians to decide.

yes u may not want to hire such but in my own case, age wont be the first issue that will come to play here. i will consider competence and other factors. However the person in question may be a retired military officer but he is not has weak as we are trying to portray him. remember that this supposedly retired man has been transversing all over the country for months now and havent gone abroad for medical check up (remember late yaradua). he definately knows what to do and how to go about the problems associated with this country and he is the best so far among the miserable rest.

nagoma:
Thank you effisher

the problem of Nigeria is meaningful leadership headed by a selfless person who has Nigeria in mind and is not corrupt. Youthfulness has so far not solved any problems( El Rufa'i and the land deals, Fani Kayode and the aviation millions, Donald Duke and the rigging confessions etc), and remains a compounding factor among those who think if you are young then you are okay. Nobody can rule our country alone but we need and examplary person at the top who will ensure justice , fairplay and productivity, who will not steal from the tresury and will not allow others to do the same. So far Buhari has that reputation what ever the detrctors concoct and say.

God Bless u.

chamber2:
see the despot

such a handsome man

Jega Implanted By CPC With US Help?

i didnt even have to read the article before knowing that the OP has a hidden agenda. Looking at the title, u mean CPC (opposition party) imposed the chairman of INEC on this govt (PDP - VIPERS) with the assitant of the US Govt. Funny u know. some1 isnt thinking here.

Even if this is so (of cos its a lie) it confirms the notion of some of us who strongly belive that GEJ is simply a Yes-man. he can hardly (if any) take decisions on his own. why should i vote for such as a president?

@ Agaba123

Better still, he fired his spokesperson for LYING

efisher:
Nagoma, this thread is about Buhari. Fault me on that if you think I'm wrong: Buhari has reached retirement age and is not equipped to lead in modern, democratic Nigeria in need of the corporate ideology.

What does the constitution say about age of those willing to goveern the nation. The people will decide as per that.

^^^^ its obvious this JJC with two post is thinking from his anus. seun, theere should be a way of screening new entrants into the forum u know.
Abegii bring out the lies you have seen and lets trash it out. ODE.

Took my time to read through this whole thread and i am more than resolved to vote and continue to work for the BB Ticket. There is absolutely no substance in most of all these accussations. Agreed, he has his pitfalls (O yes, he is human) however what he will bring to the polity if he comes on board is quite much more appreciable.
Wish all of you the best.
BB all the way.

Simple. I cant vote for a Zombie. A yes-sir man.

@ Efisher

U see, there is nothing happening now in that electoral body that didnt happen either in 2003 and 2007. Iwu just decided to cover it up and assume all went well which explains all those court cases. There is this saying that we cant continue to do the same thing and expect a different result, it would be an act of malady. Lets see what jega comes up this saturday and i hope i am proven wrong. The system is at fault and i hold the goverment responsible for not doing what they ought to have done before now even though it was started. Im basically looking at the bigger picture here which will help us understand the root causes.

efisher:
@ Demdem, are you saying better planning and management would not have yielded a different result under the same circumstances?

nop, what i am saying is we had a ample time before now to sort out this electoral system. This system is faulty. No better planning and management would have given us something better. It goes beyond JEGA. This was what the Uwais committe was set up for and report submitted. Why didnt the govt do something about that report before now?

monkeyleg:
My brother, I do not accept your line of thought. Jega had vast amount of money at his disposal, and ultimate authority to run things properly @ INEC. A good manager would use such resources at his disposal to acquire the best people to do the job. He simply didnt understand that basic management 101 concept

Well, its allowed however like i said in another thread, the problems noticed on saturday went beyond the logistics issue he was facing in ABUJA. the system is faulty and no amount of money can position it well if the fundamentals arent in place which the Uwais report critically addressed.
ok, what is the difference between Iwu's Inec and Jega's Inec? What has really changed?
To butress this reasoning of mine, here was what i posted elsewhere

To those of us who went out on saturday knew that the problems of INEC is more than the logistic issue JEGA is facing in ABUJA. on the ground, peeps names were missing, logos of a party was absent in place like Gombe, a friend of mine in lagos claimed he saw ACN logo (the broom) on two parties (please can someone confirmed this if true). I personnally was disenfranchised. i registered in rumuodara PH but my name wasnt found at the polling unit. I read it in the dailies today that the REC of cross rivers was thankfull to God that the election was postponed because the whole exercise would have been fraudulent having noticed that some INEC officials have compromised etc.
The problem was obviously more than logistics.

To those of us who went out on saturday knew that the problems of INEC is more than the logistic issue JEGA is facing in ABUJA. on the ground, peeps names were missing, logos of a party was absent in place like Gombe, a friend of mine in lagos claimed he saw ACN logo (the broom) on two parties (please can someone confirmed this if true). I personnally was disenfranchised. i registered in rumuodara PH but my name wasnt found at the polling unit. I read it in the dailies today that the REC of cross rivers was thankfull to God that the election was postponed because the whole exercise would have been fraudulent having noticed that some INEC officials have compromised etc.
The problem was obviously more than logistics.

i really feel sorry for JEGA. he is helpless. the system is faulty and is bound to fail no matter how sincere he is. Believe me, the most difficult job to accept in the world right now is Nigeria INEC chairmanship. I doubt if anyone can suceed under this present system. late Yaradua recognised this and admitted. Promised us Electoral reform before the next elction. we all should be asking why did the govt not do anything about the Uwais report. it was such a comprehensive report.
Under this present system, i doubt if any free and fair elections can be carried in Nigeria. its sad no doubt.

No doubt, IMO INEC is to be blamed however i will heap the BIGGER BLAME on the government of [b]J[/b]onathan [b]E[/b]bele [b]G[/b]oodluck [b]A[/b]zikwe.
Before now, so many of us have clamoured for the total retructuring of elections in naija. Yaradua came in and told us that trully the election that brought him to power was faulty and he promised us electoral reforms. he agreed that the system is faulty and needed to be amended. This he started by setting up the Justice Uwais committe and having spent billions, the committee came out with a very comprehensive report which comprises issues that pertains to leadersship, finance, logistic, procedural etc of the electoral body. However the late president died and couldnt work on this further

One would think that a sincere govt will pick up the report, work and implement it. even if u cant implement it 100% but at least do something with it, but alas GEJ threw it to the bin giving us the impression that it isnt implementable. but of cos this is not so. he simply doesnt have the political will to do it and probably under the pressure of PDP knowing fully well that there is no way they can win free and fair elections in naija if its not rigged.

i have said it in one of this threads here that even if we have a wiser and better person to head INEC as it is, there is no way we can have free and fair elections. Its simply not possible. we all know that the only difference between Iwu's Inec and Jega's INEC is just the leadership however electoral fraud goes beyond that. thank Goodness last saturday's election had to be postponed, a lot of attrocities were noticed even different from what JEGA was facing in Abuja.

I believe in one Naija however i am not convince that we are going to have a free and fair election. its simply not possible with this present system and the govt of GEJ isnt ready to change despite the fact that they have the whole time to at least do something about it. Definately elctoral reforms isnt patr of GEJ's achievement becos there wasnt one in the first instance.

Nigerians please dont hesistate to still come out during the polls however dont expect a free and fair election. what happened on saturday throughout the country should be an eyeopener.
Peace.

i tot GEJ said there was no longer MEND. what is this again why cant the president be truthfull?

recoome:
Can u see how BB supporters are violent,even on nairaland, aisha is doing a good job and they are trying 2 gang up against her, that's how the gang up against anything good, hence they refuse 2 see the good works of GEJ, may God help them!!

Only if u know the havoc chuqudy (GEJ supporter) has done on the other thread u will shed tears for this country.

^^^^ please go back there Chuqudy has done it again. thats the fourth time or so.

aisha2:
Am saying read the title of the thread, if you do not have any reason for supporting Jonathan then kindly refrain from posting here. Everyother person has respected that, please do, if you have any other aspirant you support go and open a thread and post in his support, let people freely post the reasons for thier support, there are so many threads where you can challenge them , this is only for people who have reasons to support Jonathan

Aisha, on this issue i dont agree with you oooo. are u saying we should open another thread to tackle all the glaring lies being peddled here. Whats wrong in tackling it here once and for all?
however, thank u for handling chuquq or whatever her name was. she was fast becoming a pest.