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Odunnu:
He doesnt need to tell us that. We have the constitution and we know he'l be too old[i]er[/i] by 2015. Lil wonder he's so desperate.
Agadi nwoke!

^^^^^^^
Ignorance of the highest order.
Dont worry general, no matter what, peeps like me will be out there on saturday to vote for you. You are the change we desire.

Please you guys should come out on saturday and lets boot these PDP guys out. We all should put an end to all these deception. SIMPLE!!!!!

How frequently used is the warri port ?

madejibo:
@Demdem thank God u realised but at least visit or no visit he has not admitted that IBB is his mentor, brother or father

of cos not. Buhari is so much responsible than that when he is not daft.

Beaf:
Yeah, they've been meeting since 2005. Mr anti-corruption as dirty as shyte. By the way, the link I posted id about a month old, and there are tonnes more from meetings with vultures like Ciroma from less than a week ago, but you clowns can help yourselves with google as I said earlier.

I know beaf will extract something that will favour IBB stooge. ANyway, from what re read up there, it was a reconcilliatory meeting. Remember also that this same stooge days ago met with some rascals in lagos

PapaBrowne:
That bolded part is the main point. Jonathan is succeeding where every other PDP government has failed. That is why Jonathan is so popular despite the fact that he is in a failed party. Vote Jonathan and you will experience a new Nigeria!!

Hehehe! Scared of the beast yeah??

papa,sori i cant. If GEJ was in APGA or ACCORD party, i would have considered him but where he is expect so few from many being expected.
it isnt that PDP has been idle all these years but if you compare their so called achievements to the various resources (monetary and human) at their disposal you will know that we have been heavily robbed. GEJ will only try but he simply cant succeed in that party especially at the federal level.
pele.

how am i even sure it isnt a campaign strategy considering the time this contract was awarded ooo. Just to resurface the whole thing. abegii, leave that tory. Campaign or no campaign, fashola is working, Lagos is working. Why cant Nigeria work that way?

sorry, had to add this post to get to 667.

I travelled on that road also this january and to be honest, construction was ongoing especially when the Oba of Benin i was told insulted the minister in his palace. However i will like to know how much the PDP govt have spent so far on that road since 1999. That road alone isnt enough for me to give him my vote sha.

fstranger3:
^^^

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politicians could be funny sha. days ago he was prolifficking with the likes of OBJ, George, Dosumu etc he now realizes that these guys seems to be empty and he has decided to jolificate with Tinubu who supposedly was accused on several criminal grounds WITHOUT ANY FORM OF EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP.
let me guess what Tinubu's demand may be,

1) RELINQUISH UR AMBITION
2) FREE MY MAN FOR AKWA-IBOM STATE ETC

eeyah sori, that was a long time ago. Abegiii do the thing yoursef make i face my work jare.
i still insist that it was basically a courtesy call

madejibo:
@Demdem pls don't say what you can not prove for the sake of time, we all know abt Jonathan admitting IBB is his mentor and father, we all saw Ribadu visting IBB but I have never read it b4 that Buhari visited IBB

na wa ooo. see me see trouble.
Ok i just google Buhari, Babangida and Minna and guess what came out on first page. Hope it will satisfy your curiosity.

Buhari visits IBB in Minna
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Buhari visits IBB in Minna
By STEVE NWOSU
Saturday, December 31, 2005

In what may seem the final confirmation of the end of a 20-year-old bad blood between former head of state Gen. Muhammadu Buhari and his successor in office, General Ibrahim Babangida, the Daura, Katsina State-born Buhari Tuesday made a stop-over at the Hilltop family home of the Babangidas in Minna, Niger State.

It is the first time Buhari would be visiting the Babangidas in almost 40 years that he has known them.

Buhari whose visit has since then elicited so much excitement in the camp of the Babangidas as well as the ANPP hierarchy was received by both the former military president and his beautiful wife, Maryam.

The visit which is also the first time either Buhari or Babangida would be visiting each other at home is a direct fallout of the recent reconciliation efforts of Abia State Governor, Dr. Orji Uzor Kalu. In fact, Buhari was on his way back to Kaduna from Umuahia, the Abia State capital, where he and Babangida had met with Kalu to bury their many years of mutual antagonism.

The two Generals who led the coup that toppled the civilian government of Alhaji Shehu Shagari in December 1983 have never seen eye to eye since IBB overthrew Buhari as head of state in what was considered then as a treacherous palace coup in August 1985.

In fact, it was speculated that Babangida had pulled all the corks to ensure that Buhari did not win the 2003 presidential election when he ran as the presidential flagbearer of the All Nigerian Peoples Party (ANPP).

The Babangida camp is said to believe that as a Fulani who never forgets an injustice, Buhari still bore a huge grudge against IBB. That perceived bad blood has defined the relationship between the two former heads of state for the last two decades.

Kalu in the mix
Kalu’s reconciliation of the two Generals, coming barely a week after the same Kalu had also reconciled Biafran warlord Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu and for Vice President Dr. Alex Ekwueme is another major step in the Abia Governor’s newest move to bring together political leaders, statesmen and men of goodwill to help douse the tension in the polity, especially as the country marches towards the defining 2006/2007 period.

For the first time in recent memory, Kalu, last week in Enugu, brought Ekwueme and Ojukwu together to shake hands, embrace and bury their differences to enable them concentrate more on the task of rescuing the country from the precipice than dissipating energy in egoistic battles that might not serve the country and its people any good.

An aide of the governor who was close to the recent reconciliation meetings quoted Kalu as saying that “when things begin to go amiss in a country, it is the duty of all men of goodwill to work together to save the situation”.

He, however, noted that it would take some statesmen of equal goodwill to bring these men of good will together.

According to him, this has become even more germane now that virtually everyone appears to have been silenced either by intimidation or by some other means.
The closing of ranks of these otherwise political foes, therefore, appears to be sounding the death knell on several months of free reign of political intimidation as an official state policy. It has also sounded the whistle on an era of divide and rule which seemed to have gained ascendancy in recent times, especially with the swelling opposition to the speculated third term ambition of President Olusegun Obasanjo.

In the last few months, the country had been polarized along zonal, ethnic and regional lines. “Although the presidency has pretended to be unhappy with the situation – as evidenced by the recent order of the PDP banning its governors from attending sectional meetings – the role that very government allegedly played in the organisation of the last Southern Governors and leaders summit in Enugu suggested that Aso Rock might indeed have been profitting from this division. I think it encouraged a divide and rule situation which helped to checkmate opposition to the government in Abuja,” a top political office holder from the South east told Saturday Sun.

Beyond party formation
Confronted on the fact that what might indeed be happening now is a realignment of political forces ahead of the 2007 showdown, an aide of Governor Kalu insisted that the present moves must be viewed from a broader perspective than party formation and 2007.

“The leaders agreed to put aside their individual differences and ambitions – whether real or speculated – and think Nigeria first. There is tension in the land and these people have agreed to bury their differences, as men of goodwill, to come together to ensure the survival of democracy in the country… they reviewed the situation in the country as very unhealthy and have agreed to come together to salvage it”, the aide explained

The objective
According to Dr. Kalu, the man at the centre of the reconciliations, “the aim is to ensure that tension is doused in the land… We must do everything to ensure that the military have no excuse to stage a come back into our politics again… I might be against some of the things the Obasango administration is doing, but I also know that even the worst form of Obasanjo is better than the best form of military regime”.
Kalu continues: “Anything that creates the environment for the military to come back must be resisted with all that we have,, as such a come-back would take our country back by at least another 20 years”.

The Abia State governor said that while he does not support the excesses of the Abuja government, he would not subscribe to removing it undemocratically, adding that the problem of the Obasanjo administration is rooted in the fact that the president “has surrounded himself with sycophants who don't’ really like him but are only too scared to disagree with him, these are the people misleading him”.

Waiting for Abuja’s reaction
Although Saturday Sun could not get an immediate reaction from the presidency over the new wave of reconciliations, a leader of one of the motley of groups campaigning for an IBB presidency come 2007 reasoned that “It is natural for those in power to get jittery and uneasy each time the opposition camps begin to unite. It is usually a promise of a more co-ordinated opposition. Now, no government in power would feel too comfortable with that. And I don’t think Obasanjo is – even when he too could desire that the tension in the polity is doused”.

Although Kalu was not a part to the Enugu summit of Southern governors and political leaders, he is said to be gradually creating a political earthquake of sort in the polity, with his resolution of two of the most well known personality clashes in the country. This is against the backdrop of the fact that many people and groups have failed over the years to reconcile the men.

The IBB camp equally feels this reconciliations across the country can’t have come at a better time than now when there is increasing tension over the North/South divide and the central government appears to be unwittingly opting for the divide and rule approach.

http://againstbabangida.com/Newsroom-at-AgainstBabangida.com/buhari-visits-ibb-in-minna.html

madejibo:
Proof please

i av more important things to do now than looking for a proof of what i know happened. it was simply a courtesy call then if i may recall during his campaigns or so. Hopefully someone else will help out on this.

^^^actually he did. i heard about that report when it came out. However, i am quite sure that Buhari knows that GEJ's father cant be trusted.
No shaking.

^^^^ but by advance systematic rigging that cant be detected by Jega's machinery

Beaf:
It is not possible for a true progressive like Fashola to remain morally, intellectually and aspirationally shackled to a widely despised criminal like Tinubu. At some point, he must break free.

The question is, where will he go? What are his next moves? He holds all the aces, especially given the  widely acknowledged fact that ACN’s popularity is wholly due to Fashola’s stellar leadership qualities.

At a point this year, after surviving several impeachment moves from Tinubu and his mob, there were strong rumours that Fashola was headed for PDP. As the rumour had it, all PDP's governorship aspirants for Lagos were instructed to clear the decks, because he was to be their undisputed candidate.
More fillip has been given to that view with the defection of Fashola’s lieutenants to LP, which is considered in the SW to be PDP’s halfway house.
The healthy reformist actions and gestures of a national party like the PDP from which Fashola’s ambitions could become national, could become too great an attraction. He is a very intelligent man, and there is no better time than now to join the PDP and be a part of the history of Nigeria's reformation and development.

Without doubt, we are headed for a very interesting political season in which Fashola comes of age, breaks out his wings and either seizes control of ACN from Tinubu, or looks at mistakes of CPC and does one of three things:

[list]
[li]Join the PDP[/li]
[li]Overthrow Tinubu[/li]
[li]Defect to LP and build it into a national party[/li]
[/list]

i still dont get it. The bolded is just a mere allegation. No evidence, no conviction, no trial all these years despite being in the opposition and well hated by the ruling party. I dont think Tinubu is a criminal afterall but if u think otherwise, why is the guy still walking freely and majestically all over the country. me think Fashola is with the right set of peeps and will do him more good to remain there.
It seems to me that the FG (PDP) has been deceiving us all all along.

i am optismistic that the OP will be singing a new song after this saturday. U are definately in for a shocker. Laugh well now as much as you can. Saturday is here already.

after this debacle am not surprise.

[quote author=na_so link=topic=640836.msg8072921#msg8072921 date=1302182983]^^^^^^

Good. i dey wait una.[/quote]Na so, ur response is now there and some still on the way however will post it here because some contents there could be for peeps benefit.



na_so

I will assume that you are referring to me. and you want an internet link to verify what i wrote.

Before I go on to verification I need to tell you that I was there when all these happened and more. There were of course thousands of other people who are aware and perhaps millions who benefitted. I have given you figures, dates, places and names of organization and you will please feel free to cross check. I will also suggest that you contact the following people who are Public figures and fully aware with what I said here and will even tell you more.
1. Raji Rasaki - who was then the governor of Lagos
2. Chief Adebayo Oyero - an Ibadan technocrat and one time city coucil Chairman in Ibadan.
3. Professor Dora Akunyili
4. Mazi Sam Ohuabunwa who was at that time the president of the Pharmaceutcal Manufacturers association of Nigeria and has even reached greater heights now.
5. Dr. Joe Odumodu - Who is now the DG Manufacturers association of Nigeria.
6. Egr. Emmanuel Egbabe - a water engineer who is now a Senior Adviser to the President GEJ.
7. Engr. Anthony Ozodinobi - who is now the Permanent Secratary Federal Ministry of Housing.

The late Chief Rufus Giwa of blessed memory was an important stakeholder as a member of the PTF board he worked closely with the Buhari and the board to see these happen. I am sure if CPC was to win , Bakare will work even more closely with Buhari.

I will also refer you to a book; "Buhari- the PTF Years"published in 1999 by Spectrum books, Ibadan in association with Safari books of Jersy Channel island UK. The whole book( 389 pages) will be most useful but specifically pages 165-176 in Chapter 6 will help you with my posting. Also chapter4 pages 99 to 115.
I am ready to provide you with more information if you want. The internet is a great revolution for information sharing , unfortunately anything can be written on any subject and may not necessarily be true . It is the best medium for cheap propaganda and the dissemination of false information so giving you a link does not prove anything at all.

@ onye_ngbu

you too ask ursef this question.

Did GEJ men doll doll out money for the SNG group labelling it as transport allowance?
Did GEJ men bribe delegates to win the Presidential slot of PDP?

Guyman02:
That bag contains perhaps gifts to hard working journalists who may have followed the President around during his campaign tours, just like they are doing to BB and Ribadu.
Afterall, we get indoctrinated by news from CNN and Aljazeera telling us about how Ghadaffi is killing civilians and NATO bombing his presidential palace to 'protect civilians', with no mention of Saudi Arabia killing civilians and invading Barhain.

Nigerian journalists are better than foreign media that you believe their biased stories; they are known to report facts or they will rather keep quiet than shamelessly report bias stories like CNN or Alj.

Did you see GEJ at the venue? NO
That man wearing caftan in the picture and holding a bag looks very much like a CPC thug.

PDP will loose may seats at the assemblies and guber, but GEJ will win the presidential elections outrightly!!

what, i cant believe i read that.

Beaf:
^
GEJ has promised free and fair elections. He has done that by putting the instruments of state at INEC's disposal, while strictly maintaining INEC's independence. He has called several security meetings/meetings with Jega concerning the weaknesses exposed with the election cancellation. That is how to act responsibly, and he is covered.

Buhari on the other hand has gone around making childish statements about how the cancellation (in some mysterious way) exposed "rigging" plans by PDP.
Now that is all 100% speculation. So, what we find amiss, is how in all the noise he has not mentioned PROVEN rigging attempts he encountered with his own eyes, in child voters attempting to influence the ballot? Is is because those almajiri's were attempting to rig for him?

are you saying he placed on INEC's hand his responsibilities as the C-in-C of the federation? Do u mean to say that all security forces are under the control of INEC for this elections? what instruments do u mean here that will make underage registration impossible? The truth is Jega cant succeed without GEJ which invariably mean no free and fair election without the support of GEJ. Our president is so powerful unfortunately but that exactly is the reality. I am not convince that INEC is that independent as it is being portrayed. these and many others were part of what the Uwais committee was constituted for in the first instance but has been ignored by this goverment.

Not only Buhari said or is saying this, virtually all parties are exercising such fears because of last saturday's lapses which all saw including me myself.
Again, how are you sure that Buhari saw this underage in his own WARD? have asked you to give me reasons to believe such

Beaf:
You actually sound pathetic!

The question you guys are avoiding is really simple. Where are Buhari's comments on the underage supporters[b] (who form the bulk of his rally throngs) attempting to vote in his state state, in Daura, in his ward?[/b]

Wow beaf, i have been sensing some civility in your responses for sometime now except this. please calm down ooo. We are still brothers u know, Yes, Buhari is your fellow brother/Nigerian.

However it seems to me that you are exagerating this issue further. Do you mean to say the bulk of those registered to vote in Katsina and in particular Daura (buhari's ward) are underaged? is there any evidence to this fact? can you give me in percentages if any?
Underage voting has always been a national problem even before this elections but i agree is more prevalent in the northern part of this country

agabaI23:
Demdem,

If you can call me agaba, I will appreciate it.
I actually did not see this however I have answer some of the questions there.
The highlighted statement confirms that he is supposed to have spoken and he has not.
About what GEJ would have done, refer to my reply to ekt_bear We all know how the North goes behind who they have chosen religiously from the policeman to the almajris.

@Agaba123

well, i see double standards in ur response and pointedly telling me that GEJ cant stand up to face the north. i doubt if he is a strong leader then.
the truth of the matter is this>>>>>>> Both GEJ and GMB hasnt come out to speak against it (Thats a fact)
Because either of them hasnt come out to speak against it doesnt mean that they are in support (Another fact)
Its INEC and security operatives under GEJ responsibility to prevent such from happening in the first instance and on that they failed (Another fact)

GEJ needed not to apply any law if what was expected from him in the first instance (during registration) was done. so please that opponent home state logic you are trying to put down our throat is not acceptable

[quote author=na_so link=topic=640836.msg8072904#msg8072904 date=1302182790]@demdem

First I want the source of that your story on PTF.

Secondly it is fraudulent to present some scattered PTF projects/spending  in the SW without providing comparative spending in the core northern regions for similar projects at that time. Let Buhari show us the full stats for all the regions. For your information PTF is recorded to have had as much as N925bln to spend on projects.



By the way I read somewhere that PTF's first budget was approved in 1996, so how could the same PTF have funded and completed a water project of that magnitude On the 6th of March 1996 ? Make una dey check una records o.

When did the project start? when was it awarded?[/quote]Firstly, it isnt my story and yes, i know so kindly chill out for him since he is presently offline. what thing i know is i am quite aware of that water project.

secondly there is nothing in that writeup that suggests[b] funded and completed[/b], what you saw there was flag off

[quote author=na_so link=topic=640836.msg8072649#msg8072649 date=1302180394]^^^^^^^^^^^^

Save which money?
the Aboki simply did not want a  lofty project like that in yoruba land. He would have approved that project at 3 times the cost if it was meant for KANO, OR KATSINA.[/quote][b]
On the 6th of March 1996 Buhari was in Lagos to flag off the first and the biggest water supply PTF project for the Lagos Iju waterworks rehabilitation at a cost of N1,050,015,651.00 (one billion and over 50million naira) and the Lagos.This included the support for the provision of administrative structure to support the Lagos state water corporation.The whole aim of PTF as Buhari said was to support the Lagos Govt and its world Bank project to ensure the supply of 137 million gallons of water per day for the city of Lagos.
He (Buhari) said on that day " With the important position of Lagos as the financial capital of Nigeria and former seat of government our ability to meet water requirement in the city will enhance our national pride "(please note that Buhari is always talking about Nigeria not one person or the other.) He also said that " , water revenue from large population of consumers will improve loan repayments effort of Lagos water coporation and improve the coporations credibility, ".

On the 5th of August 1997 Buhari was again in the SW in Ibadan to launch the N631,913,818.90 support for the Ibadan water supply project to support the ADB effort in that city. This was managed by indigenous NW consultancy services in which Buhari said on that day " , PTF pays special attention to institutional capacity building and strengthening, to ensure sustainability of the projects."Please note that the water department of PTF was not headed by someone from SW and no lobby was needed for Buhari to do the necessary - all other zones received support with water supply efforts but none got as much as the SW . There were of course more places in the SW itself such as the Oke Aleji water project.

The SW because it has more tertiary heath facilities and had 90% of all drug manufacturing outfits in Nigeria benefitted much more than any zone as PTF went out to strengthen each drug manufacturing outfit in Nigeria to ensure self sufficiency and minimize capital flight and conserve foreign reserve. Please note that there was not a single drug manufacturing factory in Buhari's state - Katsina or in the nearby Zamfara,Jigawa,Kebbi or Sokoto . There were one or 2 that qualified in Kano but 99% were in the south and over 90% inlagos and Ogun- Otta, Agbara,Badagry ,Ilupeju etc. This was never a problem for Buhari as these were in Nigeria and the focus is national capacity rehabilitation.   [/b]

@ Naso,

Its obvious you have seen the above in another thread as posted by NL nagoma. why dont you wait till he responds to ur question before  insinuating that GMB doesnt have good intentions as far as yorubas are concerned?

agabaI23:
The state has a PDP governor, who they may probably return but will never vote for GEJ.
Have you read Lawal Kaita's interview? Have you forgotten so easily the reason why Buhari is rocking the north? It is because of the zoning problem in PDP. Katsina state in particular has great grudge against  GEJ and pro-Buhari from head to toe. You think the almajris will be voting for GEJ? Think again!

When it comes to politics, it is religion in the North when a northern interest is involved. You think if Sherma was to be behind the act, Buhari would have kept quiet? Thoink again.

Good one Agba,at least i have ur attention. now comment on my other notes. u have been dodging it for sometime now.

Demdem:
because he is yet to speak against it does not mean he isnt against it and definately he is against it. However, what has GEJ whose watch these underaged voters registered said so far about it? Nothing. so what is the basis of this thread?
It further proves the incompetency of this goverment that promised us through INEC a very good and dependable voters registers. GEJ simply cant get anything right. thats a fact.
The OP is basically telling us that GMB organised and lined up minors to be registered in the northern states under GEJ supervision and got away with it. Wat a folly.

agabaI23:
Aww! I will happily explain.

First he is not the only presidential candidate but he is the one touted as above board in corruption.
He has been shouting on PDP about rigging
The incidence was in his home state where he has cult follwership.
The inch-perfect honest and straightforwad candidate  should not condone an undue advantage.
If that happened in a pro-PDP state, what would he have said?

Agba, some questions for u?
Who is the governor of Buhari's home state?
Which party is in full control of goverment machineries in that state. (or av they decamped and i dont know about it)

dont you think since underage voters has always been an issue even right from Iwu's register, it is fair to say that the current goverment there are really the ones invlove in such? Anyway, all we need is concrete evidence linking these vices to Buhari. in the absence of this i srongly advise you to refrain from baseless accusations.

Demdem:
because he is yet to speak against it does not mean he isnt against it and definately he is against it. However, what has GEJ whose watch these underaged voters registered said so far about it? Nothing. so what is the basis of this thread?
It further proves the incompetency of this goverment that promised us through INEC a very good and dependable voters registers. GEJ simply cant get anything right. thats a fact.
The OP is basically telling us that GMB organised and lined up minors to be registered in the northern states under GEJ supervision and got away with it. Wat a folly.

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=640836.msg8070610#msg8070610 date=1302162512]Your stupidity has reached an alarming level! In the circumstances that prevailed at the time, Buhari was probably right to have cancelled that project. For crying out loud, with the over 30trillion PDP has wasted, of that waste would 500billion  naira not have provide lagos with the much needed Metro?
In fact, maybe you need to go get a copy of the report of the two committees that Buhari based his decision on so the public can rightly conclude.

The bolded part of your suggest you have very little understanding of what Metrolines are met for![/quote]does anyone has an idea of what the committe came up with? till then will keep mute. its good to know however that military Buhari didnt just wake up to scrap the idea.
besides, lagos should be weary of PDP. what has lagosians benefitted from the party  all these years? if Obj (yoruba man) couldnt do anything much mentioning, why do we think GEJ under OBJ's influence will do better?

incompetent

I, my whole family and everything that belongs to me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Signing in with all pleasure.

because he is yet to speak against it does not mean he isnt against it and definately he is against it. However, what has GEJ whose watch these underaged voters registered said so far about it? Nothing. so what is the basis of this thread?
It further proves the incompetency of this goverment that promised us through INEC a very good and dependable voters registers. GEJ simply cant get anything right. thats a fact.
The OP is basically telling us that GMB organised and lined up minors to be registered in the northern states under GEJ supervision and got away with it. Wat a folly.