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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 3:57pm On Sep 01, 2017
dopeJemi:
even CheLsea sef carry L
Na wa... bwuahahahaha cheesy cheesy cheesy make una enjoy ojare cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 3:52pm On Sep 01, 2017
dopeJemi:
a bench warmer sold is called what?
You guys will sha say or do anything to dash cfc L cheesy cheesy nna Weldon o!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by diggz: 3:46pm On Sep 01, 2017
chuckdee4:
Bros isn't relegation better than this annual circus
This man has all Arsenal fans (Millions of people by the way) by the balls, im be Jesus Christ?

I say lose every game till he bleeps off, imagine making a bogus bid on deadline day, how foolish do these people think we are?
I get you bro! Wenger fvcked up bad sha...I can't lie.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 3:41pm On Sep 01, 2017
nateevs:
In isolated cases, yes. Consistently, NO!
Burr 11 willian vs 11 hazard is actually a discourse of isolation and not one of consistency. And even if we are to assume it is one of consistency, then it is expected that 11 hazard will always play against 11willian. And if that is the case, I will personal pick 11 willian ahead of 11 hazard.



nateevs:
This whole post is a lie. Let me break it down.


1. Fundamental mistake. There will be, in this hypothetical debate, 11 Hazards on the pitch; meaning one player in each position for a team of 11. This is not to be confused with the hypothetical "Hazard" who doesn't run back. Unless you are telling me that for some reason, you think all 11 Hazards will be on the left wing, with cigars in their hands, refusing to go back to their positions. You can see where this is going.
On the other hand, you cannot teach 11 Willians to score and assist in high numbers; no matter what hypothesis we throw in the mix. Whereas, given that there will be a Hazard in every position, they can be taught to defend.



2. You saw the long epistles because there were 10 runners and 1 Hazard. The epistle was not to stop Hazard from running, but running all the way to the back to defend alongside the left back. Why? Well, because Hazard has the potential to score 20 goals in his best season but Willian cannot score more than 4. So it's just wise to let Willian run and let Hazard off some running; let him be a danger and let him score and assist.


3. You cannot use isolated instances of a team of runners to show that they can consistently out-performance a team of skillful players. Pick one team, a team of all consistent runners and no prolific players. Then show me where they have consistently performed and consistently outperformed a team of prolific players with less runners and you get £100. There's none. Instead, what you will find, are isolated cases and I don't consider that as ample empirical evidence to support this point.


4. This point is nearly fraudulent. Liverpool players are runners but they are not Willians. Firminio, Coutinhos, Manes, Sturidges, might be runners, but it doesn't prove your point. They were able to destroy Arsenal because they are prolific. Again, they are not Willians. To stress again. Willians run about without anything to show for it. 11 Willians don't win games but 11 Willians work hard. In fact, they find themselves in interesting positions but they cannot make anything of it. So they lose the game in the dying minute to the creativity of a better player. Firminio was not even a consistent runner before joining Liverpool. Coutinho was nearly a waste-man in Italy. Klopp has turned him into a player who now knows how to defend "from the front" by way of pressing; whilst still remaining extremely prolific. Can Klopp teach Willian to assist and score? Simple.


5. Of course no one of us is looking for an entire 11 filled with strictly either Hazards or Willians; it's supposed to be intelliegent debate describing how each party's ability could enable them to win a game.
O...ga o!!! I only stated my opinion and no apologies if you consider it to be a lie. grin

Anyways, I can see were you are coming from and do appreciate your position however, my preference will remain mine and not yours. And if we are to continue this,we will end up going back and forth grin

So I rest my case.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 3:27pm On Sep 01, 2017
nonsoroyalty:
You posted this the first time we ignored. This is the second time and we still insist, you won't get those likes.
cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 3:26pm On Sep 01, 2017
dopeJemi:
everybody wan dey bet in dollars like say na USA demands dey, even the ones wey dey mushin sef dey call dollars
Ogbeni e go shock you say people plenty for inside mushin wey fit bet with better dollars not even 100 grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 3:20pm On Sep 01, 2017
Funlordjnr:
Ah! Sailorxy don't let me down.....lets take their Russian roubles no matter how little it may seem since swansea arsenal Juve and everton refused to! I am even adding N1k extra for sailor! grin
Weyrey grin cheesy grin

Una almost throw party for here yesterday....unto wetin na? Even arsenal thread no gather the kind crowd wey dey here to mock us grin

Thank God for zappacosta and h2o....na how we for use survive for here as at today before? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by diggz: 3:17pm On Sep 01, 2017
chuckdee4:
The only way out of this mess is for mutiny in that dressing room (Chelsea style).
Wenger obviously wanted to sell/loan Mustafi because he voiced his frustration after the Liverpool match. Any player who rocks this boat (The Wenger show) gets the boot, no questions asked.
A lot of decisions made in this club make no damn sense.

These players need to get together and make Wenger's position untenable, that man gets away with murder, its time him and that board get a taste of their own medicine. I say the team intentionally lose games until they SACK Wenger
Be careful what you wish for.... relegation is not a good thing o!

Leeds......
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 3:11pm On Sep 01, 2017
Segadem:
willing Willian willing to �run grin
Bwuahahahaha cheesy grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 3:09pm On Sep 01, 2017
raumdeuter:
chelseafan1
Oga hafa? Na sallah things today o! No kan cause wahala with hazard matter for here.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 3:06pm On Sep 01, 2017
Xlpacks:
Yes.. I'm ready to stake
SailorXY Ur man says he can do 100bucks.... kindly revert if you are ok with it. We can choose airmark,f funlord or Nihilist to keep your bets.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 2:32pm On Sep 01, 2017
Xlpacks:
$100. Chelsea Wins.. Are u Game?
Airmark pls we need your help here grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 2:31pm On Sep 01, 2017
nateevs:
Firstly, there is no need to eject the specificity of the debate. It is a straight Hazard/Willian one.

On the topic, bearing in mind the qualities of just those two players, what is wrong with the statement is that it is made on the assumption that that a team of Hazard cannot/will not defend. And that's not true.

Secondly, I always lean on the side of technical flexibility. A team of Hazards can be taught how to defend tactically because they have a high technical ceiling. And then there's no use over flogging the potency of their attack. Whereas a team of Willians will keep running around looking like they are doing a lot, when in actual fact there are average defenders and very poor attackers. Unfortunately they cannot be taught how to attack. Their technical ability is limited.


So No; It's not what I want to see. It's debate of technical ability and flexibility.
Bearing in mind the qualities of just those two players, it is not a wrong assumption that a team of Hazard cannot/will not defend. It is simply a fact. They are mentally not wired to labour for 90mins or do the dirty job for 90mins even though you want us to believe they can be taught.

When mou was busy forcing players like hazard to do more defensively we were here reading epistles on how he was being shackled with defensive duties. epistles on how he should be freed to create more,score more blah blah blah blah.......bros I really cannot see how a team of hazard even when taught to defend will do better than that of willian.

We can argue higher ceiling and what not....but I have seen great teams filled with special talents who couldn't compete or do anything against a team of runners or workaholics like Willian.

Take a look at klops liverpool vs arsenal as at last week for example....where is the hazard type of player in that team? All I saw was 11 willing runners....willing to run for 90mins,fight for each ball,win tackles etc...

Now.....i am not trying to downplay the effect hazard brings to the team however we shouldn't forget that, we only had willing runners against spurs not too long ago and we came out victorious.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 2:00pm On Sep 01, 2017
airmark:
Who will be your starting front three in the image below?
Hazard - morata - willian.


I actually prefer pedro playing from the left side of the field.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 1:48pm On Sep 01, 2017
Nihilist:
For what it's worth, I also believe a team of Willians beats a team of Hazards, purely because Willian is more of a generalist player, while Hazard is a specialist
Exactly the point FBS was trying to make. Thank you.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 1:47pm On Sep 01, 2017
Lana1:
Ko si problem. We go equalize soon enough. Una go soon come buy Smalling and Ashley Young grin
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god forbid!!!! Lana tk time o!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 1:45pm On Sep 01, 2017
Segadem:
Willian and Hazard were the case subject and he said he will choose 11 Willian over hazard
diggz:
I guess everyone chooses to see whatever they want to see in that statement.

FBS is simply trying to say he will pick 11 players who will give everything for the team like willian ahead of 11 flashy players(I am deliberately not using hazard as an example here) who are not ready to do the dirty work when needed.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 1:36pm On Sep 01, 2017
Lana1:
Now that u ve signed Drinkwater, and we re all been childish, it is safe to say Chelsea signed our reject grin grin
No problem with that chief. The scoreline is still 3 - 1 in favour of cfc. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 1:35pm On Sep 01, 2017
Segadem:
would you pick Willian over Hazard?
Nope....and I will not pick hazard ahead of Willian either. They are both very useful to the team but in different ways.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 1:32pm On Sep 01, 2017
nateevs:
Hehehe. A lot!
I guess everyone chooses to see whatever they want to see in that statement.

FBS is simply trying to say he will pick 11 players who will give everything for the team like willian ahead of 11 flashy players(I am deliberately not using hazard as an example here) who are not ready to do the dirty work when needed.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 12:45pm On Sep 01, 2017
Skimpledawg:
This Emenalo Niqqa eeh cheesy...


The Thanda that will fire you next time you give us sleepless nights will chase you back to your village in Umuololo community undecided
U come from hin village abi?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 12:45pm On Sep 01, 2017
Greatihex:
hmm. If you cn type d bolded, then there is no need going further wt the issue. Let us leave it.
What is wrong in the statement he made?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 12:44pm On Sep 01, 2017
Goodnuel:
They did horribly... The worst transfer window ever, to me.
Cfc actually did ok. Maybe we didn't get the amount of bodies we wanted burr the ones we got are not bad. If you go check the past couple of seasons you will see that we did very ok.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 11:32am On Sep 01, 2017
hensben:
Yeah Mahrez but his inclusion would've affected Willian and Pedro which will now cause unrest in the dressing room.
Don't think so bro.

Hazard/pedro/left. While willian/mahrez/right
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 10:53am On Sep 01, 2017
Emaprince:
I remember when we signed caudrado. Smh.

This life sef.
Bwuahahahaha cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 10:52am On Sep 01, 2017
Thecassanova:
Last I heard he's back, injury stalked his loan move though
For real? Wow shocked
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 10:30am On Sep 01, 2017
Skimpledawg:
grin grin... Na our legend in the making Henry dey do that one for? cheesy


Happy New month Airmark.. ..na force tongue
French cvnt.. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 10:29am On Sep 01, 2017
Nihilist:
That's why that guy never fulfilled his potential...

But he's rich af anyway...so i guess hes ok with that...
True...so true.

I remember when the comparison was ronaldo,rooney and messi..... burr Rooney fell off due to lack of discipline.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 10:25am On Sep 01, 2017
airmark:
Don't greet me. cheesy

[img]https:///media/9-01-2017/bSDNCY.gif[/img]
You wan still send Ur dogs to chop dis guy? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 10:24am On Sep 01, 2017
Thecassanova:
Decent, we can say we have the depth to some extent.
Is baba Rahman back from loan or why do you have him on ur list?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 10:22am On Sep 01, 2017
Thecassanova:
Decent, we can say we have the depth to some extent.
We look very solid from defence to midfield to wings for me. I am not just sure of what to expect from morata/batshuayi in terms to contribution goal wise. I will have to wait and see. But we actually look very good.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 10:12am On Sep 01, 2017
Nihilist:
Rooney arrested for drink driving....
Scummies legend grin

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