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Oasis007:


On Paper we get quality Midfielders like Mkhtaryan, Matic Pogba, Mata, Herrera and Co who are better than Liverpool Midfielders.

However, on the Pitch where the Results matter, Liverpool Midfielders are better than ours.

Who is at Fault....... JM or the Players?!

phaamsaam:
NO use arguing with epl deluded fans bro... Just sarcastically tell him, he is the right one

Baritone:
It's frustrating really.

jonsnow92:
The narrative of goals and assists with Iniesta was flawed because He was the illusionista in his A days..Shekpites knew Lampard had nothing on Andres so they brought the stats about goals..They said Lampard was better only because he scored goals more than Andres..Andres for all his Brilliance scored as well.Decisive,Important goals..I will pick Phil over Isco not only because Phil scores more,I listed a couple of things there with goals among the list..Phil has more Vision on the ball than Isco, Phil is more decisive Bruv..Phil is inconsistent and that's solely because he is mostly in the sick Bay which is clearly not his Fault..Which is why I was a bit skeptical about getting him last season, This season Phil has been consistent and He is ready to make that move now..Isco isn't anywhere consistent too and they are both 25..Isco can't command a starting Berth at Madrid Yet..2 different clubs Yes but Last Saturday Zizou started Kovacic and didn't even Use Isco at all..It says something about the coach still not trusting Isco's ability doesn't it?..Isco has only had one good season(Half a season if I'll b critical)..It doesn't make him better than Phil.

Oasis007:

Seem the Bricks are made of sand only?!

larride:
If Umtiti is going to be characterized as World Class to you then what will Ramos be called? Super world class? because obviously Umtiti is not on the same level as Ramos et all.

Don't start with the he's not playing in the epl rubbish, Ramos, Chilleni, Alaba n co didn't play in the epl and no one is denying that they are world class, so try another excuse.

Spy360:
Apart from Walker, Pep has not really used any of his new signings. He lost Mendy early in the season. Most of them are subs.

His success was playing De Bruyne and Silva in midfield.

Mou should learn from him rather than complain. He complains a lot and that is very sickening. All he does is blame others, blame everyone except himself.

sebod:
No be my fault bro, you can't just help but laugh out loud when you stumble on some posts made by these Epl boys in the past. Just I as could help itt when I stumbled on a post by weed taker on Bayern thread which reads thus;
"ancelotti 'll take dis same bayern team to de ucL finals."

How person go see that post and no go laugh?

IFearGod:
Argument of some people here in defense of Mourinho is just annoying. Mourinho is just a dumbass, kiss the truth! He's deluded and looking for flimsy excuse to bail himself out. Who would say £300Million isn't enough to assemble a wining team? Useless mofo!

He lacks good tactics and football intelligence. All he knows is his defensive way and he's such a dumbass that has refused to change.

I could remember in one of City's matches, there was a little pressure on the team and the defenders started volleying the ball but Pep shout at him and asked him to play the ball the down. They listened to him, got their composure back and won the match in styles. That's an example of a coach that has a philosophy and intelligence and stick to it because he believes.

I also think one of Mourinho's undoings is that he talks too much and this makes him to lose focus. Earlier this season when City was struggling everybody said many things against Pep; criticized his tikitaka philosophy, but rather than being distracted, he kept his focus and never blame anybody. He believed in his philosophy and kept to it.

There's no excuse for Mourinho. He's a failure and deserve to be kicked out of United if the club wants to move forward without destroying their brand.

larride:
Umtiti World Class LOL. No wonder they call Barça fans barkadot.

The use of the term "World class" has so been bastardized. Umtiti world class. Lmao.

sebod:
Anyone with half brain actually knows where krychowiak is now

afroduke:
Coutinho is good, but he does not guarantee you 30games a season because of his plastic legs. Isco might score more goals than coutinho but he is more creative and can hold possession in tight spaces and he has vision. He is the closest thing to iniesta's replacement.

jonsnow92:
1) Madrid would rather relegate than sell Isco to Barca.



2) Isco can't shoot better than Phil, He's not as productive as Phil, He doesn't score more goals than Phil, He isn't as decisive as Phil, I dont know but Isco doesn't Still look like a finished product yet IMO..The only thing Isco has an edge over Phil will be his Dribbling ability..I'll rather Have Phil as a carrier in a 4-3-3 than Isco.

larride:
I thought you are one of the most intelligent Barça fans on this forum, if you don't know the difference between world class players, average players and good players then we shouldn't be having this conversation.

Simple question: Is Umtiti a world class player or an average player?

Baritone:
As far as I'm concerned. The undoing of Manchester United came when Mourinho prioritized and favoured defending a slim lead at all cost, above a wide margin score.

Our attacking game at the start of the season was fluid and functional.
We buried whatever team.

Guardiola simply stuck to what he had been doing since the beginning of the campaign which is Attack...
and a little tweaking here and there and not a change in pattern..

By the way from the little I've seen, Mata currently is the only United player with the best Positioning. For doubters, check the stats, he's the one in the squad with the highest goals so far.

Simple logic is get him involved.

ctuagent007:
Otamendi is world class cos utd also wanted him....

Its been 3-4 years fans worldwide including Utd fans, each thanking their various gods/stars that we dodged the "otamendi" calamity project but just this season people are now claiming he is world class
Capital cee said Ota was best defender @ Spain therefore that automatically qualifies him as the best, I wonder when football became 1+1.
Now the same calamity is better than Bailey & Jones I give up before person go say Stones/Mangala is better than ..............

larride:
Don't wet your pant just yet my man. the crux of the matter here is that Stones is not an average player while at Everton. I never claimed Stones is world class except you are having another argument with yourself in your head.

I still maintain that Stones was a good and highly rated CB before his move to City. Modric was term a flop the very first season he joined Madrid, we all know how that's turning out now ain't we? Unless you want to claim that Modric is an average player while in Tot, I don't know what straws got guys are holding on too.

All this shout of Stones this, Stones that, you could have thought he's the one marshalling City defense, scoring goals and all sort while in reality he has only started 8 games in the league and 4 times as a substitute. That's your gold people. LOL

patrickmuf:
A team of super stars and average players playing together as a unit in attack and defense (Man City) is better than a collection of super stars and some average players playing disjointed football relying more on individual brilliance (Man Utd)...
The movement of our players is poor, you don't see our full backs overlapping to draw defenders away from the wingers. Most times, Young passes the ball to Martial and stops like a spectator to watch how Martial will go past 2-3 defenders and when he can't, he passes back to Young and back the ball goes to Matic, back to Jones and we repeat the sequence again...
Mou needs to work on our passing and movement and our forward play in general...We defend too deep thus whenever we recover possession, it we can't hurt the opposition immediately compared to City who press high up the pitch where they can hurt you if the chance presents itself...
Sometimes I wonder why we can't press high up the pitch like Spurs/City/Pool or Chelsea who are improving in this aspect, our players are way too comfortable retreating back and Mou has to take responsibility to be honest.

larride:
So you mean Barça was even interested in this same Stones we re talking about before Pep but it was Pep that turn him into a good player. Wow. Pep is indeed a magician. I guess it was Pep that was his manager at Everton when Barça were interested in him. You guys logic defiles reasoning walai.

dopeJemi:
we have bought the likes of Depay, bebe and zaha, so us fighting tooth and nail for Otamendi is no biggie

is it the same Stones that was mocked by almost everyone here when pep bought him for 50m? the same Stones we all used against Pep saying that he wanted a ball playing defender but got a defender that can neither defend or play ball or is there another one, do you want me to dig out people's post about stones last season?

so I guess we can put to bed the notion of Stones and Delph being excellent players and very few people would have wanted them in their clubs two seasons

CapitalCee:
Ok sir . He is are you happy now?

eph12:
Pep was insulted last season for buying Stones 50 million, but now that the team is breaking grounds, the player has become Cannavaro and Nesta rolled into one while Pep is just fortunate to have such a great player

CapitalCee:
Ok . Pep is a the second coming of Jesus and Jose is a shit manager. Point taken.

eph12:
When the team underachieved last season Pep was called Fraudiola

CapitalCee:
That's my point, man u fans even before Ronaldo mostly prefer Madrid. Even before the champions league loss to Barca. But Madrid fans don't like man u. I think the table has turned now, Most united fans like Barca now and now is the perfect time for that given their forms. And with Barca playing shekpe in the UCL, their united Fan base will increase.

ctuagent007:
U can as well sleep on ur £50m john-stones or Sterling bed since ur points are equal to Mourinho's failurefailure this season. . .

I was here when nobody blamed the players but Moyes & Lvg but now that ur personal lord & saviour, Mou, who died on the cross & resurrected after 2 seasons is underperforming esp Burnley, it's been changed to "touch not my anointed for he washes away utd sins"

CapitalCee:
It's not wholly truth, most I know liked Madrid even before the Ronaldo-Messi era.

Galileogalileo:
Nobody is disputing that neither I .... But what am saying is that a coach will only turn a player into gem or gold if the player have the mind set and attitude to do so

CapitalCee:
Most Man united fans i know, usually cheer Real Madrid, but Madrid fans do the opposite to Man U, even when we are not competing with them for anythng. Nawao

Oasis007:
We will be back to fairly analyze the Team, the Players, Manager, and the performance.

odizeey:
its attractive to jose mourinho na