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Philadelphia:
Happy Day. I think I know you.

Really? From where?

All the apostles and early Christians kept the Sabbath of the LORD. So, at what point did intolerance for the holy day of the LORD begin to appear? You can read Daniel 7 to know about the power that thought it could tamper with the Law of the LORD. Let him that reads understand.

thorpido:
Who told you Christians observe the Sabbath?You don't know what Christianity is!Sabbath is for the Jews!
Everyday is the Sabbath for a Christian.Why do some churches hold services on tuesdays,wednesdays and fridays?What do you say about those days?

Read Matt. 5:17-19. If you still abide by the remaining 9 commandments, why have you chosen the 4th Commandment to attack? Do you not know that "...whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all"? James 2:10

Now, understand me: Righteousness cannot be obtained through strict observance of the law by human power. We are saved by the grace of Jesus Christ our Lord. Even as we try to obey His commandments, He helps us in His infinite love to become like Him everyday.

Philadelphia:
I can't help but agree. You write like a remnant of which I'm 100000001% sure you are

Yea bro, I am. Happy Sabbath to you.

Freksy:
Sabbath died and was buried with Christ. Nevertheless, Jesus kept no day as Sabbath, that is why the Jews then accused him of violating the law of the Sabbath.

Luke 4:16 "And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as was His custom, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day..."

It is an egregious lie to claim that Jesus did not keep the Sabbath when he was on earth. The Sabbath of GOD can never be tampered with.

And to know the truth about the Sabbath of GOD, I urge you to click on this link: www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/87/t/why-god-said-remember

I implore you all to visit this link to know the truth about The Law of GOD: www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/27/t/feast-days-and-sabbaths

Exod. 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it
holy...But the Seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD
thy GOD..."

At the risk of being termed a legalist, I wish to make it
known that the Sabbath is very important to GOD. We all know the seventh day is Saturday. It was the day in which the LORD rested, and He blessed and hallowed it.

Let me ask a question: Have we done away with the 10 commandments? Are Christians no longer required to abide by the 10 Commandments?

Babacele:
Christ essence is love. his presence on earth was to fulfil the original law- love. Christ came for the whole world and he demonstrated it through a universal love dealing with all. Didn't he say no law is greater than love? if one loves God and man ,won't he be fair in all his dealings ? unless thou be like lil children thou shall not enter into the kingdom of God. love.

So, (if I'm correct), you're trying to say Christ's commandment is love. We should love GOD and man. So, how can we love GOD with our whole heart, mind, soul and strength?

Babacele:
Christ himself said so and not from my imagination . dispute Christ let me see.

Okay. Christ aptly summarized The Law (10 commandments) in two categories: Love the LORD your GOD with all you soul, strength, mind(your duty towards GOD); And then, love your neighbour as yourself(your duty towards man). I have a question for you: How can we love GOD with all our heart, soul, mind and strength?

Lemme give you a hint: Jn. 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments"

And you can't say that Christ's commandments are "Love the LORD with all your heart, soul, mind and strength" and "love your neighbour as yourself", because you'd be implying GOD has His own Laws while Jesus has His own Laws, thereby suggesting schism between the Two.

So what commandments was Christ talking about in Jn.14:15?

Babacele:
...Irrespective of religion, rituals,traditions, and denominations God is interested in those who are meek at heart, feed the poor, shelter his neighbors, fair in their dealings, forgive easily , a good Samaritan sort of.

This is a terrible lie. Anybody can: be meek at heart, feed the poor (of course we have uncountable philantropists), shelter his neighbours, be fair in dealing with others, even forgive easily. As a matter of fact, an atheist can exhibit all these qualities. But does that make him right with GOD? Even the Pharisees gave alms.

"Nevertheless the foundation of GOD standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are His. And, Let everyone that nameth the Name of Christ depart from iniquity." 2 Tim. 2:19

Babacele:
There are only two laws as far as the salvation of mankind is concerned: the love of God with the whole of our heart and loving our neighbours as ourselves. Irrespective of religion, rituals,traditions, and denominations God is interested in those who are meek at heart, feed the poor, shelter his neighbors, fair in their dealings, forgive easily , a good Samaritan sort of.

Really? Only two laws? Can you tell me the place in the Bible where it is clearly stated that the Salvation of man now depends on only two laws?

And what do you think of the following verses? Matt. 5:17-19; Rev. 12:17; Rev. 14:12; Rev. 22:14.

Psa. 111:7-8 says "The works of His hands are verity and judgement; all His commandments are sure. THEY STAND FAST FOR EVER AND EVER, and are done in truth and uprightness" (emphasis added)

There you have it, friend. GOD's law is eternal. Please, let us not harden our hearts and continue in rebellion to GOD's word.

And concerning the difference between The divine Law of GOD (The 10 Commandments) by which He governs the whole universe and the ceremonial laws of Moses, please do well to visit this page: www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/27/t/feast-days-and-sabbaths

To fine out the truth about the relationship between Grace and The Law, please visit this page: www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/25/t/does-gods-grace-blot-out-the-law

I implore you to visit this page and find out the truth about how Sunday worship originated.
www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/37/t/is-sunday-really-sacred

gemale:
D fact is as long as u serve God in spirit & truth, whether u celebrate ur Sabbath on a Sunday or Saturday is immaterial.

Can you truly claim to serve GOD in truth and in spirit when you continue to twist and distort the word of GOD? Resisting the very truth of the Bible? And, by the way, it is not our sabbath; It is the Sabbath of GOD (Ex. 20:10).

By the way, on whose authority was the sabbath "moved" as you claim?

gemale:
By d way, do u know d 10 commandments weren't d only laws handed 2 D jews by God? Y don't u wear 1 material of clothing alone (mosaic laws state dt u shldnt mix 2 materials eggs cotton & wool 2geda). Y don't we celebrate d passover? Even Paul did. Y don't we still keep slaves & free dem after a while according 2 mosaic laws). Jesus redefined d law giving us 2 laws (love of God & of neighbors). I don't c hw shifting d Sabbath 4rm Saturday 2 Sunday goes against dt.

It is expedient at this point that we make a clear divide between the two sets of laws GOD gave to the Israelites. The divine law of GOD, which He wrote with His own fingers is the 10 Commandments. It is different from the (over 600) ceremonial laws, which He gave to them, all of which were pointing to the sacrificial work of Christ, and were ended as soon as Christ rose from the dead. The 10 Commandments are the standard by which GOD judges the whole universe. They were there before creation.

gemale:
How does 1 keep d Sabbath holy? Isn't it by worshipping God, gathering as believers & doing good 2 our fellow man? Do we do dt? Yes. So isn't dt d aim of D Sabbath? As long as we do dt, I don't think God has any qualms wt it being a Saturday or Sunday.

You want to know how to keep the Sabbath holy? The bible tells you: Ex. 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy GOD: in it thou shalt not do any work..."

It is simply a day in which we leave worldy pursuit and commune with GOD as we remember that He created all things in six days and rested on the seventh.

The eternal law of GOD is immutable; it can never be twisted. GOD is very specific; He requires that you keep the seventh day Holy to Him. He didn't say you should choose the day to keep Holy. As a matter of fact, GOD BLESSED and HALLOWED the seventh day. He didn't hallow any other day.

gemale:
God is spirit & therefore transcends d boundaries of tym. Night is d same as day 2 Him as r tyms & seasons. As 4 d 7th day, it is relative 2 humans 4 instance in France, Sunday is considered d 7th day (their week begins on Monday). Dts y Jesus said dt God is spirit & dey dt worship Him must do so in spirit and truth. Didn't Jesus go harvesting ears of corn on d Sabbath going against d stipulation dt 1 shldnt work in d Sabbath day?

Read Matt. 12:1-8 and understand. Are you trying to imply that Jesus committed sin by breaking the Sabbath? What is sin? "...sin is the transgression of the law" 1 Jn. 3:4. That is the Bible definition of sin.

No matter how much you try to bend and twist and distort and resist the word of GOD to suit yourself, the fact remains that GOD's word cannot be changed. Let no man deceive you; GOD knows those who are His. Come out of the apostate church, my people. GOD's merciful arms are wide open.

Babacele:
....and the same God said all generations shall call Mary blessed?

Yea, as a matter of fact, many people were called blessed by GOD. Blessed are the meek, pure in heart, poor in spirit, merciful. Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly. GOD had this to say of John the Baptist: "Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women (including Mary) there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he." Matt. 11:11 (emphasis added). Anybody can decide those words are strong enough to make it necessary to ascribe worship
to John the baptist. But is that the case?

Those that worship GOD must worship Him in truth and in Spirit, not in a filthy and abominable way, practicing all forms of deceptions and falsehood.

gemale:
God is spirit & therefore transcends d boundaries of tym. Night is d same as day 2 Him as r tyms & seasons. As 4 d 7th day, it is relative 2 humans 4 instance in France, Sunday is considered d 7th day (their week begins on Monday). Dts y Jesus said dt God is spirit & dey dt worship Him must do so in spirit and truth. Didn't Jesus go harvesting ears of corn on d Sabbath going against d stipulation dt 1 shldnt work in d Sabbath day?

How long will you continue to harden your heart? And you have not answered my question: Are we no longer required to abide by the 10 Commandments? Secondly, can you provide just one verse in the Bible where GOD commanded us to now forget His Sabbath and keep the Sabbath of the beast ( Sunday)?

As regarding circumcision, we all know that is not a part of the 10 Commandments. We are advised to "Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no longer stiffnecked" Deut. 10:16

Don't be stiffnecked any longer concerning the will of GOD for you. He loves you and wants you to walk in His ways. If you hear his word and invitation today, "Do not harden your heart..." Psa. 95:8 It is the will of GOD that we dedicate ourselves pure and living sacrifices to Him, for that is true worship.

gemale:
Guy Saturday or Sunday is immaterial 2 God. Where in d bible did God specify Saturday or Sunday? It was d Jews dt did dt. U r hyping dis mata d way d pharisees did doing wt Jesus accused d pharisees of "laying heavy burdens on men & nt lending a finger 2 lift it". Tell me did Jesus ever nullify circumcision? & yet d apostles did away wt it as a prerequisite 4 salvation.

Exod. 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy...But the Seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy GOD..."

At the risk of being termed a legalist, I wish to make it known that the Sabbath is very important to GOD. We all know the seventh day is Saturday. It was the day in which the LORD rested, and He blessed and hallowed it.

Let me ask you a question: Have we done away with the 10 commandments? Are Christians no longer required to abide by the 10 Commandments?

As a matter of fact, Jesus Christ was killed on a Friday, he rested in the tomb (observed the Sabbath) on Saturday and rose up on Sunday. This is a mystery.

All through Jesus' life on earth, He kept the Saturday Sabbath (Luke 4:16). So at what point were we commanded to abandon the Sabbath of GOD and now keep Sunday?

gemale:
I take it dt u r a 7th day adventist. Let me ask a question. On what day did Jesus resurrect 4rm d dead? Was it nt d day after d Sabbath (Sunday)? So u now c y d Sabbath was moved. We xtians r a pple of D new, everlasting covenant nt tethered 2 D imperfect Abrahamic & mosaic covenant. So we can't worship God on d day Jesus wrought such a great victory 4 us a victory over d sting of death. I give u d reply of Jesus 2 D pharisees "Sabbath was made 4 man & nt man 4 d Sabbath".

Please give me a specific verse in the Bible where GOD nullified the Saturday Sabbath and commanded us to now keep Sunday holy. Who asked Roman Catholics to keep Saturday? Was it GOD? Was it Jesus?

And yes, I'm a Seventh-Day Adventist.

Yes, Jesus wishes that all who follow him would be one (Jn. 17:21). However, He wishes that they be one in doing the will of GOD and serving GOD in truth and in spirit, not in an abominable way. The Roman Catholic Church has "become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird" Rev. 18:2 GOD is now saying, "...Come out of her, my people..." Rev. 18:4

When Jesus was told His mother was looking for Him, what was His reply? "...My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of GOD, and do it." Luke 8:21

Those are truly the mother of GOD.

Come out of the apostate Church, my people.

The truth is that the Roman Catholic Church calls herself "the mother church". She is indeed a mother. Let's see what type of mother GOD calls her: "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH". Rev. 17:5

There you have it. The truth is that all the churches still having elements of the doctrines (including Sunday worship) of the catholic church are harlots. The catholic church is the mother harlot. The Bible said it.

There is still a Church Holy and true to GOD, not polluted with the filthy abominations of the catholic church, "...they that keep the Commandments of GOD, and the faith of Jesus." Rev. 14:12

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a
falling away first, and that man of sin be
revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sitteth in the temple of GOD, shewing himself that he is GOD" 2 Thess. 2:3-4

It is no longer news that the pope claims to be GOD. Meanwhile, the word "pope" translates "father". Catholics even go to the extent of attaching "Holy" to it. Here are Jesus' words: "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in Heaven" Matt. 23:9

gemale:
A church wt Christ as her founder is apostate & d papacy dt traces its origins 2 Simon Peter appointed by Jesus Christ is d antichrist? B careful dt u dnt bcom lyk d pharisees who called Jesus "belzebuub" & u don't commit d sin of apostasy & blasphemy. I have searched far & wide even 1ce abandoning d Catholic faith bt my search 4 d truth led me back 2 her.

The same papacy that has persecuted the saints of GOD throughout the dark ages? Killing and maiming as many as would not yield to it's polluted and adulterated mode of worship? I reject the notion that the papacy is founded on GOD's word. Research and see for yourself what the papacy has been doing.

Happy Sabbath.

It wouldn't take much research to discover that the worship of Mary by the catholics is a pagan practice (mother and child worship) having its roots in ancient Babylon. This is the same Church that has succeeded in leading millions astray and is bent on distorting the word of GOD. They claim that all their polluted and filthy practices have origins in the bible, "Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof..." 2 Tim 3:5. They would hide the truth from their congregation and teach them all sorts of lies and deceptions from the devil. "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matt. 15:8-9.

Come out of the apostate church, my people.