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GoodMuyis:
This is one of the reason why some atheist have moronism in their blood. Hardly give attention to details but quick to ask question as long as it concern God

dalaman:
You are still not answering my questions. What reasons can the leaders give for rape being beneficial to the society?

dalaman:
You can start by telling me how the leaders will deem rape as beneficial to the society. Let's begin from there.

dalaman:
No, until you can demonstrate to me why rape, murder and racism is beneficial to any society I see no reason to accept anything you say regarding the leadership of this society saying that it is beneficial to the society.

dalaman:
In reality there is no society where 99% will see nothing wrong with murder rape and racism. That is why I told you to tell us why it is beneficial to the society. Even in a society where 99% are rapist they will NOT be able to tell.you why rape is beneficial to the society.

butterflyl1on:
so as Vaxx just said, if those who crave sodomy now lobby and harass the government to make it legal and they do. would you subscribe to it as the latest moral law?

dalaman:
Everything will be wrong. The leaders will not even have time to do anything. They will just be murdering, raping and discriminating against each other. There will be total chaos till they end up exterminating themselves.

dalaman:
Every right. That is why some people must lead others because we are social animals that must coexist and coprate with others whether we like it or not for the benefit of the society as a whole.

There is no society where 99% can see nothing wrong with rape and murder. It just can not exist anywhere.

dalaman:
A society with 99% of its members as rapist, murderers and racist will exterminate each other out. The society will cease to exist in no time because it is made up of rapist, murderers and racist. They will keep killing, raping and discriminating against each other till they wipe each other off completely.

dalaman:
The society always determines what is beneficial to its people through its leaders and what is beneficial always changes over time. But as a civilized society that has come about through thousand of years of moral evolution, leaders have come to agree that murdering and rapinh people has no benefit to the society but has many bad effect on the society.

dalaman:
How is extermination beneficial to a society? Suicide could be beneficial to an individual person for various reasons some of which I can list, but I see NO reason why extermination is beneficial to any society.


Racism, murder and rape have NO benefit to any society at all. It can not be rationally and logical be shown to be beneficial to any society.

Proudgorgeousga:
isn't evolutionary biology a branch or a field under biology

dalaman:
A society with 99% of its members as rapist, murderers and racist will exterminate each other out. The society will cease to exist in no time because it is made up of rapist, murderers and racist. They will keep killing, raping and discriminating against each other till they wipe each other off completely.

DoctorAlien:
The question is not whether we can find such a society. The question is:

If such a city exists where 99.9% of the members are racists, murderers and adulterers, and they believe and say with reasons known to them that racism, murder and adultery is good and beneficial to them, is racism, murder and adultery not virtually beneficial to the society? If no, who said so and why?

If yes(i.e. that their actions are beneficial to the society), then you must agree that their opinions must matter because this is what you said: "Their opinion is not needed because they haven't shown how their actions are beneficial to the society..."

Now, if their opinions matter, they should be consulted before rules concerning racism, murder and adultery are laid down. And guess what they will say? They will say that racism, murder and adultery are not evil and should be allowed because the racists, murderers and adulterer(which make up 99.9% of the society) believe and proclaim with reasons which they know best that racism, murder and adultery is beneficial to them.

In such a society, should racism, murder and adultery be declared good and allowed? If yes, why? If no, why?

Your question of how rape and murder are beneficial to the society should be channeled to Hitler and those who supported his views. They certainly can tell you how murder (of 6 million Jews) is beneficial to the society.

And when they tell you how murder is beneficial to the society, why should their opinion be inferior to your own opinion(that murDer is not beneficial to the society)?

AgentOfAllah:
But the dala man is apt to suggest such a society cannot exist. The only way such a society is feasible is if it's a one (wo)man society where the sole inhabitant is all three (racist, murderer and rapist), and has lost 1% of their body.

dalaman:
You want me to follow you and be playing your silly games?

I said it's IMPOSSIBLE for a society to exist with 99% of its inhabitants as rapist, murderers and racist.

Such a society can not exist anywhere .

Even rapist, murderers and racist can NOT tell you how and why their actions are beneficial to any society.

But then you want to start talking about Hitler as if your own God(and his prophets ) is better than him from the biblical stories.

dalaman:
Am not interested in your fictional society. Am only intrested in real human societies that exist. If you want to talk about fictional societies then look for someone to do that with.

If you claim such a society can exist then point to one simple. Am not interested in empty assertions.

An example of a society that consist of 99% murderers, rapist and racist can be found where? And they have shown that their actions is beneficial to the society how?

dalaman:
Am trying to have a meaningful conversation with you but it sms you are only interested in sounding stupid and chasing your long tail.

I am talking about a real society while you are talking about a fictional one.

There is no society in the world where 99% of the people are rapist, murderers and racist. There is no such society anywhere. Such a society can not exist. That's why I asked you to give me and example of such a society and also give me the beneficial effects of racism, murder and rape to any society.

dalaman:
Name one society where 99% of its inhabitants are rapist, murderers and racist. How is rape and murder beneficial to the society?

dalaman:
Racist, muderers and rapist are already labeled by the society as offenders because their actions are harmful to the society as a whole if allowed to go on checked. Their opinion is not needed because they haven't shown how their actions are beneficial to the society and it is on that basis that they are tagged as offenders whose opinion does not matter at all in the scheme of things.

dalaman:
They are part of civilized societies but they are considered as offenders. Society has labeled them as offenders as such their opinion is not needed and doesn't matter at all based on laid down rules and principles of how a society should function.

Racism, rape and murder have been shown to be evil to the society as a whole if allowed to go unchecked purely based on reason and logic as a while it is detrimental to the society of allowed to go unchecked . No benefit of racism, murder and rape have been shown to be good or beneficial to the society as a whole based on reason and logic.

Ranchhoddas:
I don't know. That is not what evolution is.

Ranchhoddas:
We were all single cells at some point. I cannot argue against BELIEF.

butterflyl1on:
The point is that those who violate these agreements have their own perfectly good reasons for doing so. (in their own eyes).

Same way the one who upheld the agreement has his own perfectly good reasons for upholding them (in his own eyes).

dalaman:
Its not my own opinion but laid down principles.

Racism is wrong because it violates the principles laid down by civilized societies that all humans are created equal and should not be judged or discriminated upon based on the color of their skin.

Murder is wrong because it also violates the principle laid out by civilized societies that you shouldn't take the life of another human unjustly.

Adultery violates the principle and agreement made btw two people to remain married and commited to each other alone so long as the remain alive.

AlmiqhteeAllah:
What fvcking shiit is this guy saying?



Racism - you're discriminating against another and DEHUMANIZING them on a dubious basis - skin colour! Nothing, either in heaven or on earth, can justify this fuckery. Savvy?

Murder - You're causing HARM to another for no just reason. Taking their life against their will. That is evil.

Adultery - You're breaching a contract - going back on an agreement. That's wrong.