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 Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 3:13pm On Sep 06, 2017 |
Sarassin:As far as I'm concerned, I have answered every meaningful question you asked. Have you any other meaningful question? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 3:12pm On Sep 06, 2017 |
I go further to post the definition of atonment according to dictionary.com: "satisfaction or reparation for a wrong or injury; amends." Sarassin, stop confusing yourself. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 3:06pm On Sep 06, 2017 |
Sarassin:Your arguments are puerile. I have shown you that: 1. Atonement/reparation for sin must be made and it must be with blood.(Lev. 17:11) We cannot be forgiven unless someone pays for our sins. 2. The Scripture foretells that the blood of Christ must be shed to atone/make reparation for our sins(Isa. 53) 3. Jesus Christ agreed that He was about to do what the Scripture said He would do(Luke 22:20; 24:44). 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 2:22pm On Sep 06, 2017*. Modified: 2:39pm On Sep 06, 2017 |
Sarassin:This line alone reveals your sheer ignorance of the Bible. Oga, every single word and letter and even punctuation mark, from Genesis to Revelation, matters! Jesus kept quoting the OT, showing that He recognized it as authoritative. Mr. ignorant critic of Paul, the very idea of atonement and that it must be with the shedding of blood did not originate with Paul: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul." Lev. 17:11 In Isa. 53, the Bible makes it clear that Christ will be killed to make atonement for our sins. Christ agreed too that His blood was being poured out "for us"(Luke 22:20) so that our sins could be forgiven. Why would his blood be poured out? Because reparation(atonement) for sin must be made. Get that? 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Destroyed Centuries Of Science In The Roman Empire. by DoctorAlien(m): 12:35am On Sep 06, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:An intelligent person would have compared the records of the character of the Catholic church throughout the Dark Ages with the basic tenets of Christianity as laid out in the Bible, before accusing me of committing the No True Scotsman fallacy. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 12:22am On Sep 06, 2017 |
Sarassin:Good. I understand that Christ shed His blood so that we can be forgiven i.e. so that our sins would be remitted. This is because atonement/reparation for sin must be made, as the Bible records that "without shedding of blood is no remission." Heb. 9:22 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 12:01am On Sep 06, 2017 |
Sarassin:Oga, define remission and atonement for us and differentiate between them in the light of what Christ did for us. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 11:31pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
Sarassin, Jesus Christ indeed knew that He was being killed for the sins of man. "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." Matt. 26:28 "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you." Luke 22:20 Oh yes! LORD JESUS, you died for my sins. I am forever grateful, most holy Lamb of GOD. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 11:25pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
Sarassin:Oga, you have zero(I MEAN ZERO, LIKE "0"  understanding of the whole plan of salvation laid out in the Scriptures, hence your question about why Christ had to die for sin when He had the power to forgive sin. I don't blame you though."And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." Luke 24:44 So Christ agrees that what was recorded in the Scriptures apply to Him. Read Mark 8:31; Luke 9:22; 17:25 Modified. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 11:13pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
Sarassin, If perhaps you teach that Paul saw himself as the (re)incarnation of the Son of GOD because of Paul's statement in Gal. 6:17, then I must confess you're a good comedian. Perhaps, according to you, Paul was trying to say that he bore the marks of the nails in his hands and feet? I laugh at the thought of that. Paul said that he bore the marks of the Lord Jesus in his body because he really the bore in his body the marks/evidence of what he had suffered for the gospel of Christ. First and foremost, he never recovered of the eye problem that he got from bright light that flashed on him on the way to Damascus. "Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stone, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;" 2 Cor. 11:26. The is just little of what Paul suffered. Read verses 23-27 for the details. If na you suffer all those things, tell me, you no carry mark for your body? 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 11:01pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
Sarassin, Paul never considered himself the "(re)incarnation of the Son of God" nor did he see himself as "the incarnate Son of God". I don't blame you for boldly saying that Jesus did not teach that He, through His blood, would atone for the sin of man. I blame whoever wrote the ignorant piece of nonsense you're busy copying and pasting here. It is baffling how people venture to argue about what they do not know. Now let me once again dismantle your claims: 1. Jesus said plainly that all the things written about Him in the Old Testament must be fulfilled. In other words, He came to do what the Scriptures said He would do. 2. What did the Scriptures say Christ would do? "But He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities ... All we like sheep have gone astray ... and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all." Isa. 59:5-6 Therefore, the Scriptures said that Christ would atone for our sins and iniquities. And sure, Christ agreed. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Destroyed Centuries Of Science In The Roman Empire. by DoctorAlien(m): 10:34pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
It is very important to note that Christianity is actually widely different from Roman Catholicism. Roman Catholicism(headed by the Papacy) rose to power in the 4th century A.D. with the edict of Milan in 313 A.D. For the most correct representation of Christianity and its nature, you have to consult the Bible(a Book which the Roman Catholic Church despises). Christianity has never been, is not, and will never be in enmity with science and reason. Nor have true Christians throughout the ages ever been opposed to science and learning. God, in fact, commissioned science when commanded man to "subdue" the earth(Gen. 1:28). Luke the Gospel writer was a Physician(Col. 4:14). While I might not gainsay the fact that the RCC persecuted scientists and destroyed much science literature, Bompiani, in his "A Short History of the Italian Waldenses" records that the Waldensians, a group of Christians who existed throughout the Dark Ages, embraced science, and were very much learned in the "Science of the Scriptures." 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 3:46pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
Sarassin:I'm sorry your conclusion holds no water in the face of the facts I gave above. I know it hurts so bad to see someone shatter your arguments with facts but I had to do it. 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 3:41pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
1. According to Paul, who is the Son of GOD? "Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession." Heb. 4:14 2. According to Paul, did the Son of GOD sin at all? "For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." Heb. 4:15 3. Did Paul see himself as a sinner? "This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief." 1 Tim. 1:5 4. So, Did Paul see himself as the incarnate Son of GOD? Common sense answers NO! Sarassin, stop twisting clauses within Paul's epistles in a bid to teach lies. 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 3:26pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
"But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ." Gal. 4:4-7 Sarassin, you claim that Paul was trying to convince people that he was the incarnate Son of GOD. Now tell me, did Paul claim to have anything to do with redeeming those who were under the Law? The word "we" in the passage above shows that Paul counts himself among those who received the adoption to sonship through the merits of Christ Jesus, the Son of GOD. Now, given your claim, how can the incarnate Son of GOD receive adoption to sonship(of GOD) through the merits of the Son of GOD? Again, was the spirit of Paul sent into our hearts? 4 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehoods Of Paul by DoctorAlien(m): 3:15pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
Oga Sarassin, I would not be termed harsh if I call you a hypocrite, because the very rebuttal to the nonsense conclusion you deduced from only the first clause of Gal. 1:16 is contained in the remaining words of that same verse. If you claim that Paul was trying to imply that he was the incarnate Son of GOD, and given that Paul did preach "the Son of GOD" among the Gentiles(Gal. 1:16), did Paul preach himself among the Gentiles or did he preach Jesus? 4 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Facts About The Seventh Day, That Can Not Be Refuted by DoctorAlien(op): 1:56pm On Sep 05, 2017 |
[s] PastorAIO:[/s] Surprise me and make an intelligent comment for once in your whole life. |
| Education › Re: 2017 PUTME: Must Applicants Register With NPC Birth Certificate? by DoctorAlien(op): 6:07pm On Sep 04, 2017 |
hazan041:FUTO students/aspirants, is it true? Lalasticlala, abeg move this thread to FP make peope contribute. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Most Dangerous Post On Nairaland by DoctorAlien(m): 6:05pm On Sep 04, 2017 |
Bits of truth in that screenshot, you know. Satan, through the agency of the entertainment industry and other like tools, is leading men into sin on a wholesale scale. Today, fornication is not only acceptable but is applauded and encouraged. Divorce rate all over the world is at an all-time high. Infidelity among married people is no longer news. The number of homosexuals in the world is increasing at an alarming rate. Our children are exposed to the most abominable of behaviours on the T.V. There is (almost)no billboard on the street but has elements of pornography and indecency on it. You even hardly load a page on the internet without pornography being suggested to you by means of ads. Satan is raising an army of men who are rebellious against the holy Law of GOD. But He will fail. Christ sealed Satan's doom at the cross. He is only trying to take as much people as he can to destruction with himself. The Truth will triumph at last. 2 Likes |
| Education › 2017 PUTME: Must Applicants Register With NPC Birth Certificate? by DoctorAlien(op): 5:26pm On Sep 04, 2017 |
Hello nairalanders. Is it true that applicants for 2017 Post UTME all over the country must register with the National Population Commission birth certificate? Is it even true that some schools(e.g. FUTO, according to someone) require the National Population Commission birth certificate? Thank you. Lalasticlala, please move this to the fp. I need answers. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The God Of The Bible Comes From Incest! by DoctorAlien(m): 7:24pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: The God Of The Bible Comes From Incest! by DoctorAlien(m): 7:09pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
We all came from incest didn't we? Adam's children married themselves for us to be here. Again, Noah's grandchildren married themselves for us to be here. Moreover, while incest(which Judah was deceived into) is forbidden by GOD when one has the opportunity to marry from non-relatives, children born out of incest are still human beings! You who are not born out incest are no more human than them in the sight of GOD, nor are they sinners in the sight of GOD just because they were born out of incest. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Facts About The Seventh Day, That Can Not Be Refuted by DoctorAlien(op): 6:06pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
PastorAIO:Your own brand of ignorance is shameful in that it is mixed with sheer laziness and unwillingness to be educated. Any right thinking person in your position, given all I've posted above, would have proceeded to verify whether Saturday Sabbath-keeping Christians existed during the time when the Catholic church was actively persecuting and killing heretics, or whether they just popped into existence after the persecution and killing of heretics by the Catholic church ended(if it has indeed ended). Bye. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Facts About The Seventh Day, That Can Not Be Refuted by DoctorAlien(op): 3:48pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
PastorAIO:By Catholic definition, a Jew may be classified as an apostate or perhaps an unbeliever, but not as a heretic. www.newadvent.org/cathen/07256b.htm So, Saturday Sabbathkeeping Christians were considered, and are still considered as heretics by the catholic church, and they were dealt with as heretics, as I have shown above. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Facts About The Seventh Day, That Can Not Be Refuted by DoctorAlien(op): 3:33pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
"Gregory IX cannot be accused of injustice, but he will ever be remembered as the pope who established the Inquisition as a permanent tribunal, and did his utmost to enforce everywhere the death penalty for heresy" (The Inquisition, pg. 132.) Similar quotes abound. On whether the Waldensians did keep the Sabbath I will not comment. I have perceived a conspiracy to hide as much truth as is possible about the Waldensians. It became much more clearer when Wikipedia gave the founder of the Waldensians as Peter Waldo, who lived in the 12th century. This is despite numerous texts which confirm that the Waldensians were there even during Constantine's time, in the 3rd/4th century. Surely, part of this grand scheme is the infiltration of these Protestant groups by Catholic elements, I know. If you wish, therefore, to find out whether the Waldensians kept the Saturday Sabbath or not, do extensive research. Thank you. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Facts About The Seventh Day, That Can Not Be Refuted by DoctorAlien(op): 3:18pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
"The burning of heretics was first decreed in the eleventh century. The synod of Verona (1184) imposed on bishops the duty to search out heretics in their dioceses and to hand them over to the secular power. Other synods and the fourth Lateran Council (1215), under Pope Innocent III, repeated and enforced this decree, especially the synod of Tolouse (1229) which established inquisitors in every parish. Every one was bound to denounce heretics, the names of witnesses were kept secret; after 1243, when Innocent IV sanctioned the laws of Emperor Frederick II and of Louis IX against heretics, torture was applied in trials; the guiltily persons were delivered up to civil authorities and actually burnt at the stake...The present pope, Pius X (1909) has decreed the establishment in every diocese of a board of censors and of a vigilance committee whose functions are to find out and report on writings and persons tainted with the heresy of Modernism" (Catholic Encyclopaedia, Vol. VII, pg. 260.) Cc: PASTORAIO 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Facts About The Seventh Day, That Can Not Be Refuted by DoctorAlien(op): 3:12pm On Sep 01, 2017 |
PASTORAIO, Therefore, Seventh-day sabbath keepers were considered heretics by the catholic church. Let's see how the catholic church dealt with heretics: “When confronted with heresy, she (Catholic Church) does not content herself with persuasion, arguments of an intellectual and moral order appear to her insufficient, and she has recourse to force, to corporal punishment, to torture.” — The Rector of the Catholic Institute of Paris, H.M.A. Baudrillart, quoted in The Catholic Church, The Renassance, and Protestantism, p 182-183. "This due punishment was death by fire for th obstinate and imprisonment for life for the penitents." (Catholic Enyclopedia, Vol. VI, pg.797). 1 Like |
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