₦airaland Forum

ShoeMarket:
Have you been to SE before, you don't want to answer that one right?

Anyways, all that you have mentioned here happened in previous government. Point me to one federal presence since Tinubu took power.

Is there not a major gas plant being built in Enugu ?

Are your states not getting more allocation naira wise?

HardBishop:
Good we are heading there slowly but steady in the issues of alliances... Which will bring discomfort on governance and partnership between the three regions... I long for it that one day it shall break forth to referendum cos all parties must agree for seccesion.
On kanu as before, igbos help him to reach Britain with ease. Don't worry the igbos in sokoto will try to shield and transport back to wherever he likes... As it was before..
Even if he is a wanted man and he's found in U.K. as far as he's a British citizens, he can't to repereatrated back to Nigeria

Nigerian and Britain have a repatriation agreement .

He would be bundled back if he is stupid enough to try and sneak into Britain.

Secondly, UK govt just passed a law that revokes acquired citizenship for any of her citizens that joins or is part or a terrorist organization .

HardBishop:
Good, do you know that igbos will have no other choice than to construct a mighty dam in river Niger just for electricity...... And water won't flow as normal to the Atlantic ocean which will harm fishing activities and livestock and others in southern region.. so a deal will be made so as carve out or dredge a water basin to allow ship to enter through the river niget

Good luck on that.

You will need to sacrifice land that you don't have to retain all that water so as to dry up the creeks in the Niger Delta and that's if Nigeria govt doesn't bomb it to smithereens.

Do you know that Nigeria convinced nations up stream of the Niger river which are all landlocked not to dam the river in exchange for us building a dam in Kainji, Niger state which supplies electricity at highly subsidised rate to these countries.

Now go and find out the area coverage of lake kainji in Niger and see how it is 40% the total land mass of Anambra.

Lake Kainji is about 1,300 sqKm while the entire Anambra is 4,300/sqkm.

And here you are saying you will damn the river in Anambra which has more water flow due to Benue .

Note that any dam built on this proposal will require not only diverting the river into Biafra but twice the area coverage for the reservoir. So you will lose 3,000 sq km.

Now what happens when you need to discharge the dam reserviour due to high volume?

You end up flooding most of your remaining land.

Lolz

ShoeMarket:
Have you been to the SE before?

Please talk to me about Lesotho in South Africa and why landlock is even an issue here?

What federal presence did you see in SE?

How did they start the civil war?

Please am waiting.

Are there no federal medical centres, federal universities, 2 federal operated airports, federal road that acts as the main artery connecting all SE states, 2 federal water way bridges in onitsha. Federal inland port in Onitsha which remains a waste .

I can go on.

HardBishop:
I understand your frustrations.. I know...... That's why I said igbos can never lobby anything or politicize with a Yoruba man.. mark my words,, all collaboration with SW is down in politics and in many aspects... The only way kanu will be released is by referendum or jail break...
So forget tinubu will never release him and forget SOUTHERN UNITY IS DEAD

Jail break?

Good luck on that.

When you break him out of jail how do you get him out of Sokoto, northern Nigeria or Nigeria as a whole?

Won't he then add international Most Wanted Fugitive to his now International Terrorist tag?

Think for once.

As per southern unity, you guys have been excluded.

SS and SW are forging that alliance and have excluded you guys totally.

HardBishop:
If a country is landlocked, it has to strive to become a producing nation. If biafra is formed, no how no how river Niger will be dredged which will allow big ships to offload containers of goods. Igbo always find a way where there's no way

And how are you going to sustain an import based economy when you hardly have any source of FX?

And who is going to leave Nigeria to go to Biafra to purchase imported Chinese products ?

On dredging the River Niger or any other waters, you will need Nigeria's permission and also Nigeria that controls the coast line can deny you direct access to the sea.

Faber:
Igbos are everywhere even in Sokoto, the Sultan of Sokoto himself once lived in Peter Obi's house in Nsukka...

Even in that Sokoto men mount. We dey everywhere

I am sure men go mount well well inside the prison yard.

Lolz

ShoeMarket:
Appointment, infrastructure, lack of federal presence in SE, economic sabotage such as refusal to allow a single seaport in SE.

Again, failure to allow SE go and now the life incaseration of MNK when you and I know that if MNK was from another region the story would have been different.

Let's not even talk about civil war and why Ojukwu declared an independent Biafra, yet Gowon fought them even through he is the one that reneged on Aburi Accord.

My dear the list is endless but let me stop here.

SE is landlocked .

You get more allocation compared to what you contribute to the federal purse than any other region.

There's FG presence across the SE.

What will you say of Akwa Ibom that outside Police stations, military barracks and prison , no other Federal presence.

As per civil war, you started it and lost woefully .

ARISHEM:
I can guarantee you that there will be a hail break there before 12 months and Nnamdi Kanu will be walking free

Whose going to break him out?

That is bandit territory over there.

If any one is going to do a jail break it will be Fulani bandits and they will either kill him or hold him ransom and all of you must contribute to have him released.

obama30:
Kanu dead will really cause civil war,

Kanu arrested and Nigeria will burn.

Kanu sentenced and Nigeria will burn.

More lines in the sand are being drawn.

Sokoto Prison is close to the Sultan's Palace .

slivertongue:
Tinubu is plainly incompetent. He can't fix the challenges

Well, at least be grateful to Tinubu for curbing IPOB terrorism since Ekpa was sentenced in Finland and Gentle arrested/killed and his penal brigade dismantled.

Can you say SE isn't much at peace now than before Tinubu got to office?

And as per what is going on in the north , it is the FX manipulators , fuel subsidy scammers , and displaced CPC faction who are facing criminal investigation.

North , like you in the SE, have a funny way of mounting pressure on the polity by setting fire on their own house.

How stupid.

MadPolitician:
You really want to know?

We don't enter plea deals with a bunch of inebriated Pablo Escobars just to walk free. Plea deals happen in Chicago not in Biafra! Tinubu and Omotosho should be told. They can never cage biafrans..

How many times will we tell you these, you disciples of the kleptomanaics

Tinubu can sentence Kanu to a thousand lifetimes in jail. It changes nothing. Call your friends in the east and they will tell you that folks are more agitated and reasy to go than ever...

Victory is for the just.
The vandals will win the battles but the just will WIN the WAR!

Empty noise as usual.

But at the most, you will all begin to kill yourselves again in the guise of '' Free Kanu ''.

writetopoka:
That was because Kanu believed that, you can not plead for what does not exist.

He believes that the law used for his conviction has been revealed.
So no one can probate and retrobate at same time.


Once he plead, it means he agreed that the law used for his conviction was still active

Did you not watch Justice Omotosho address this issue when he read out the appropriate amendment which stated categorically that the current bill will have no effect on any ongoing prosecution and conviction .

The old penal code was amended by expanding it and same amended act said all ongoing cases or convictions under this act remain in force.

Terrorist attacks on American soil specifically during the month of July when the US is expected to host the next WC finals (I did a thread on this ).

Bitcoin crash imminent.

American's will lose more of their freedom .

Zelensky is ousted .

Space warfare using satellites and laser technology .

Another pandemic.

Inflation peaks.

Neural link will be marketed as a gaming interface and some idiots will buy into it.

Piracy in the high sea backed by state actors.

Overturned wine glass, signalling the end of the party as per US stock market.

Trump will abandon his stance on wanting to import Indian workers .

Emotionss:
To the Government and it's stakeholders, Mazi kalu and the Biafra agitators are more of a threat than the activities of the Islamic terrorists and their sponsors operating in Nigeria.

Iswap, boko haram, bandits and other terrorists groups operating in Nigeria ONLY wants to islamatize Nigeria. They don't want separation and to the stakeholders of Nigeria that is less of a crime compared to the Biafra agitators who wished to separate themselves from Nigeria....

It doesn't matter if Nigeria is forcefully islamatize as long as we remain one nation, that is acceptable to the stakeholders. At least their interest is still intact.

But what they failed to understand is that the Biafra agitation is bigger than Nnamdi kalu and ipob.

The sentencing of Mr kalu will not stop the agitation for Biafra. It will probably help the agitators gain more sympathy and support across the globe and even within the country...

The Death of Ojukwu did not stop the agitation for Biafra what exactly made you guys believe that the incarceration of MNK will stop or negatively affect the agitation of Biafra ?

Personally, I think the agitators need to change tactics. They need to be less reactive and be more proactive especially outside of Nigeria and with leaders and Nations that are sympathetic to their causes.

They also need to be very very secretive and less emotional in their dealings both in and outside the country....

One of the greatest of many flaws of the average IBO man is how lineal his mindset is and how tone deaf he can be in not able to read the room.

IPOB lobbying in the US has caused more damage to ibos in Nigeria .

If you think Trump or any other powerful leader or state will gamble with supporting IPOB seize the SS oil and gas in the name of Biafra when they can simply strike a deal with Nigeria , then you are deluded.

HardBishop:
There's nothing can be done, bro, the Yoruba nation won't even release kanu.. never..talkless of tinubu... We should be gearing for our own nation

Wait till a northerner becomes President in 2031 and see if that one will even consider pardoning Kanu.

Your only hope is in Tinubu but everyday , as we can see with ipob lobby in the US against his adminstration, you make it harder for him to see reason why he should ever consider pardoning or reducing kanu's sentence.

ShoeMarket:
Honestly, Nigeria is pushing the Igbos every single day. What they forget is that the new breed of Igbos are not those of 1967. If this madness continues there will be retaliation of monumental proportion. The injustice and wickedness is damn too much and only an evil person will see and say otherwise.

Pls outline the injustice ?

You can't expect the FG to fold their hands when a terror group springs up targeting security officers and innocent civilians.

Maybe you are not aware that your respective state governors appealed for intervention from the FG to come and dislodge IPOB who were constituting themselves as a parallel authority.

Even your Obi was accused by same kanu of orchestrating the massacre of over 200 MASSOB members .

anonimi:
What sections of the 1999 constitution, as amended five times to date, contains the referendum clauses

That's where your legislators come in.

Even if they can't secure an amendment to see to a referendum clause, they can get a bill passed specifically for the secession of SE out of Nigeria.

Senators in the Senate of the affected states will be told to go back to their constituents and secure at least 2/3rd majority from their respective House of Assembly on a referendum .

Once that is done , the entire Senate will vote an pass a bill specifically to conduct a referendum in states and senatorial zones that have stated they want to exit Nigeria.

The bill will be sent to the President to sign and then modalities for holding the referendum will be decided in the same NASS and this will involve having an external body like the UN, AU , ECOWAS conduct the referendum and once concluded a special transition body setup to finalise Biafra exit within a time frame.

Like every divorce , there will be alimonies. The FG will be expected to set you off with some money and may waiver debts incurred under FG guarantee or for projects like the Second Niger bridge.

A time frame of 5ys will then be set at which point every citizen of Biafra will cease to be a citizen of Nigeria and will be expected to return back to Biafra.

HardBishop:
There's nothing can be done, bro, the Yoruba nation won't even release kanu.. never..talkless of tinubu... We should be gearing for our own nation

And how will that see to kanu's release?

Midway through his now concluded trial that saw him getting a life sentence, Kanu's legal team had informed Justice Omotosho that they are seeking a plea deal with the AGF.

The Prosecution stated that it had no objection to that and that the defendant was free to explore any legal means in his ongoing case.

I am sure a plea bargain was discussed and maybe some sort of arrangement would have been met with the FG striking off the most serious charges and focusing on lesser charges.

I am sure when this was presented to kanu by his legal team, he would have rejected it and insisted the trial continue to the very end.

If you also recall, his lead lawyer , Agabi had resigned from handling the case and had duly informed the judge . Note that Agabi on first appearing in court for kanu , apologised on behalf of his client for his unruly behaviour.

Agabi handled the case professionally and showed respect to court proceedings.

The very next slated date of proceedings , Kanu sacked his remaining lawyers and said he will be representing himself.

Its at this time Alloy was doing his 10 man protest with Sowore.

After that everything went to hell.

I am sure that Alloy advised kanu to sack his legal team so as to be able to derail proceedings with his amateur lawyering .

No lawyer will get away with how Kanu was addressing the issue of jurisdiction and an amended penal code.

Now, back to the topic which is; did the AGF propose a plea bargain deal that would have seen kanu admit guilt to lesser charges ? And if so, did kanu reject it?

I am of the opinion that if there was a plea bargain in the first place , kanu would have been sentenced to maximum of 20yrs and the judge would have considered time served in DSS detention which would have seen kanu doing 15ys in Kuje Prison. The President will then be able to step in and grant him full pardon or reduction in sentence by 2031 .

But kanu's arrogance and misbehaviour in court plus his pride pushed him to where he is now which will be very difficult for the President to grant him a pardon or reduction of sentence as he showed no remorse, repentance or respect to the court, justice and the prosecutor.

ottersberger:
Yoruba schlachfest!.

Wow, congratulations to all Nairaland tribalism warriors.

We had always made it clear that the man in Aso rock is scripting an outcome to hoodwink Igbo votes. Convict Mazi Kanu quickly, then use his release to bait the SE. Congratulations to the SE for maintaining their dignity in the face of this ugly, orchestrated provocation. We will demonstrate to Ahmed Tinubu that we will not be a pawn in his childish game.

Mazi Kanu will be free. To this end, we must work to change this government, send this calamity back to Lagos and save Nigeria.

Tinubu will not release Kanu before the elections .

He may decide to reduce kanu's sentence on his way out in 2031 and that is wholly dependant on the security situation in the SE.

If it cools down, kanu might get a jail sentence reduction and NOT a release.

If things heat up, more of kanu's IPOB members will be joining him.

Jhoneyman:
But Ibo genocide on Ibos is for Igbos. That's the insurmountable problem of the Ibos, nobody ever speaks wisdoms, even the so-called elders.

And to even recall that their leaders were claiming that kanu's release will end the violence which on its own is an admittance that the terrorists in IPOB were killing and destroying their SE to get the FG to free kanu.

DeepSight:
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I explained how to go about it legally. Seek amendment of the constitution, lobby the NASS legitimately. I didnt say he did it right. I said calling for an independent state is not by itself a crime. You approach the NASS and put in proposals for plebiscites when sufficient petitions are received, etc.

Self-determination is a right in various treaties Nigeria is a party to. Its just a question of the legal and legitimate approach.
Even state creation is a form of self determination.

They are crying for a plebiscite to leave Nigeria.

Ask them how the majority Ibo regional house in Enugu did everything to block the minority people in the eastern region from seeking a motion to leave the eastern region.

What was even the reason Ojukwu declared Biafra ?

Was it not after Gowon finally granted minority people their own States out of the Eastern region?

I hold the opinion that even the coup of Jan 15 was staged to prevent the federal parliament from reconvening after the Christmas break to address the demands of the minorities to have their own COR region.

Karma is truly a bitch

vinceendowed:
Igbos need to separate and take calabar and Akwa ibom along out of this human eaten country called zoogerian

Take Calabar and Akwa ibom?

Instead of the word '' take '' you should have used seize or annex because I am yet to see when Akwa Ibom and Cross River people said they want to join your Biafra

VaselineCrew:
Kanu has never killed anyone but see how tribalistic people are happy.

How can people rejoice over injustice for someone that only used a microphone.


May God judge you all.

At the end of your lives, you will give account of why you cast the innocent into fire.

Till then, may God forgive you wicked souls

Mohammed Yusuf also never killed anybody that we know of and he never participated directly in any riot that he instigated his brainwashed followers to go on.

But you will agree that his extra judicial murder by the state was justified .

From kanu's violent rhetoric and direct command to his foot soldiers , the entire SE became engulfed with killings and terrorist attacks carried out by his followers and foot soldiers.

Do you know that Kanu gave direct orders to his minions to kill any northerner Hausa Fulani in the SE?

Do you know that Kanu's cold hearted order was followed through and several innocent northerners were murdered?

Are you aware that this particular directive from KANU ordering his terrorist militia to go after northerners which they did was only to ellicit a response from the north in the way of counter riots which would have seen Ibos being the primary target.

This would have seen to a mass exodus of ibos from the north back to the SE.

It is this scenario that KANU thought will accelerate Biafra independence just as the pogroms in 1967 played an influential part in getting Ibos to support Ojukwu's secession from Nigeria.

Kanu was willing to instigate the north to evict and kill ibos.

Is that not a lunatic which you all support blindly.

Abdul05:
People can be angry or emotional about the case---- that is understandable---but turning it into tribal abuse is unfair and unhelpful.

Thank bro..

That's because they are the worst and most tribalistic people who see everything with a thick tribal lens.

ShoeMarket:
Una dey tire me for this country, who said Trump wants to invade Nigeria?

The man simply said he is coming to wipe out terrorists, meaning their concentration will be on a certain part of the country which is mainly North and even at that not all North will be touched.

State like Niger have nothing to fear, Sokoto, Katsina, Taraba and others like that.

So this una propaganda of invading Nigeria is wack.

Same Trump used that exact excuse to put US troops in Syria .

Trump said he was going after ISIS over killings of Christians.

At the end, US provided logistical and air support to the terrorists to overthrow the Syrian govt and he invited the Head chopper n Chief to the WH.

The OP has spoken very well.

What I will highlight also is the war in Yugoslavia and how that multicultural country went up in flames after the end of the Soviet Union.

In that war, alliances between the Serbs, Croats, Slavs and Bosnian Muslim population kept changing and morphing.

Depending on which territory is for grabs, the Serbs and Croats will team up to attack the Bosnian Muslims.

Next week and in another contested theatre, it will be Serbs and Croats fighting each other.

Now imagine a full blown civil war in Nigeria today and you will see tribes in the middle belt fighting each other over disputed territory and aligning also to fight Jihadist elements.

It won't be funny at all.

It will not be down to religion or politics or land and resources but long held ethnic divisions and skirmishes.

The Americans chose to use religious persecution as an excuse to enter the war in the Balkans by claiming defenders of Muslim Bosnian population.

owobokiri:
So, in the midst of the ceaseless onslaught against the igbos by the APC governments of Buhari and Tinubu, which culminated into a judicial travesty yesterday, this is what you consider more important to highlight here this early morning? You really want us to see pictures, òkwa ya?

In the face of progroms, ethnic clean-si-ings, genocide and money induced judicial abracadabra, all you want us to talk about is the "Dunukofia Nze na Ozo" group of nkwobi and ùgba guzzling octogenarians!? No be so Do you understand the meaning of the English word "priorities"

Jisike.., inugo?

So everybody must follow carry wetin dey worry you