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TAO11:
If only your disgraceful contradiction here was more insanely idiotic than it presently obviously is will you realize the quantum of jokes on you, right?

More like: Donald95 is not a boy but a stupid dirty slave biaf.raud boy.

How idiotic pigs of bafr.aud reason after drinking kerosene to stupor just leaves you agape.

The earlier you admit you're dumb, the better for you. In other words, you lose either ways unfortunately.


A little word of advice: Stop Drinking Kerosene!

TAO11:
If only your disgraceful contradiction here was more insanely idiotic than it presently obviously is will you realize the quantum of jokes on you, right?

More like: Donald95 is not a boy but a stupid dirty slave biaf.raud boy.

How idiotic pigs of bafr.aud reason after drinking kerosene to stupor just leaves you agape.

The earlier you admit you're dumb, the better for you. In other words, you lose either ways unfortunately.


A little word of advice: Stop Drinking Kerosene!

TAO11:
If only your disgraceful contradiction here was more insanely idiotic than it presently obviously is will you realize the quantum of jokes on you, right?

More like: Donald95 is not a boy but a stupid dirty slave biaf.raud boy.

How idiotic pigs of bafr.aud reason after drinking kerosene to stupor just leaves you agape.

The earlier you admit you're dumb, the better for you. In other words, you lose either ways unfortunately.


A little word of advice: Stop Drinking Kerosene!

Make a Valid Argument boy. Afonja handed Illorin to Fulani and there is nothing you online rant can do about it. Go to Emir of Illorin let him ask sultan the time to start looking for the moon

TAO11:
One moment Afonja is a king. And the next moment he is not.

I'm glad you just acknowledged yourself to be a janus-faced lying pig of bia.fraud.

Compare the attached screenshot with your foregoing comment in case in you're amnesiac.

Again, stop drinking kerosene

Afonja is not a King but a Slave King. I know what I type

Don't be afraid op. Ndị Igbo does not conquer and forcefully take land. We buy up lands and settle in it with our language.

Anambra and Imo Indigenes are buying up Abia State. Abians Are buying up parts of Ebonyi State, River State and Akwa/Cross. So, don't be Afraid, we trade land for Money and we settle there with our language and culture

orisa37:
You remember Sir Walter Raleigh, plunderer of Africa for Britain?
The Yorubas are watching Buhari and Kanu, Fulani and Ibo, 'cos they're Rascals in their relationship with Britain.

I don't understand what you are saying bro but don't put light(Kanu) side by side with Buhari (Darkness) again please.

Where is Sowore?? Ndị Igbo Where brave enough to protest in multitude until Kanu got released. But cowards will never fight for their own. 10 years from now, people like TAO11 will come telling me how the fought and fought and conquered and so on for him to be released Co-wards

TAO11:
Even the article you shared betrayed you.

Afonja was never a king.

No amount of spinning will remedy your bungle that Afonja was a king.

You bungled!



It's simple: Stop Drinking Kerosene.

Lol. You lack understanding. Afonja was not a king but a leader that paved way for Fulani. Greet Emir of Illorin for me

TAO11:
It's too late lad.

No quantum of damage control stunt can repair your bungle.

Afonja was never a king.

You bungled!


My advice for you is as follows:

Stop Drinking Kerosene!

Read this and be enlightened. Afonja was a commander which was at first in charge of Illorin but later he couped Allafin and went his own separate way. Making him leader of Illorin

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41856842?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

orisa37:
Britain loves Rascals.

But you people gives thanksgivings in your worship centers when God finally grants una visa to travel overthere

TAO11:
Your folly! Afonja was never a king.
You see why kerosene is not meant for drinking?

Afonja was in charge of Illorin. You don't know history

orisa37:
Kanu U are a nuisance.

Hahahaha. Britain would have deported me by now if it's true

TAO11:
Pained?? Where did you get that idea from?
Perhaps you've already drank kerosene to stupor this early morning.
Sha return keg to the kerosene governor of Bia.fraud land.

Is that all you can say to cover up Afonja the slave king

orisa37:
That must be Alimi bleeping Afonja' s Queen. Shameless Fulanis Herdsman.

Na you talk am o

TAO11:
No, you're wrong. The kerosene governor did.

Nonsense and Nnamdi Kanu!

Are you pained over your history? Rush to the nearest Chemist and get yourself a Painracetamol now

Cosbyrich:
Quick Facts:
Oyo empire started around 1300 CE and lasted more than 500 years.

Oyo Empire was undefeated unitl its decline.

A minute part of Yoruba...Ibadan defeated the massive population of army of Fulani,Hausa,Gambari etc at Jalumi War.

Ewe in Ghana,The Great Dahomey Kingdom;Republic of Benin,The Fons etc were all vassals of The OYO Empire. and they were all paying tribute to The Oyo Empire.



OSUs were learning how to wear clothes until 1950.

Let me just agree to your lies so that you can be happy. Meanwhile, Emir of Illorin is always there to expose una lies

TAO11:
Your statement here in bold is quite inaccurate and misleading.

The reality, instead, is not that Afonja was a coward who flees war. No! Afonja was a brave lion who agreed to descend on the village.

NB: Contrary to what you wrote, it wasn't towns, but rather just one small defensless village.

He was led into the village by certain platoons of his army who know the terrain, and it wasn't until he had arrived the village that it become clear to him that he was simply being sent on a suicide mission by the Alaafin --- he realized he has been set up by Alaafin Aole.

It was an age-long taboo for any army of the Great Oyo Empire to attack Ìwéré-Ilé --- a small defenseless village.

Any Are who leads such offensive was simply going on a suicide mission because he will not live to tell the story. Death lies in wait for such generalissimo.

Requesting any Are to attack Iwere-Ile (as defenseless and small the village is) is as literal as requesting the Are to commit a suicidal sacrilege.

This is the proper historical context that led to the face-off between the Alaafin and the Are when he found out that the Alaafin had literally requested him to take his own life.

Cheers!

Who wrote this history?

Thiefnibu I guess.

Bluehill1051:
Wetin be igala? Only igala I know means antelope

The one I know is Gala

femolii:
Do you know you are slaves to igala in anambra.

lol, Funny boy. Show me one Attach of Igala or whatever there leader is called that is respected by indigenous Igbo's in Igbo land

forgiveness:
In your thought. Dude, you are such a bloody liar.

Show me where in that your post where Ilorin was invaded and overan by Fulani's army. Show me.

Like I earlier said, what happened in Ilorin was palace coup. Sefini

Whether palace coup or Presidential coup or Governor coup or Oba Coup, What I know is that Illorin is forever gone to the Caliphate and there is nothing Afonja can do about it.

forgiveness:
Fulani never invaded Ilorin. You claimed the two captives were released due to fear of reinforcement by the Fulani's army but after showing you prove that they actually reinforced again but were drown in the river, you singing another kuruke song.

Now, let me prove to you that the Ilorin that fought and got drown in the river were actually Fulanis. Let me see what you are going to come up with again.



Ibadan soldiers chased the Ilorin survivors to Inisa, a town between Ofa and Ikirun. When news reached the people of Ofa that the Ilorins were retreating towards Inisa, they cut the bridge across the Otin River in the rear and left the retreating Fulanis of Ilorin devastated. The Fulanis were pushed into the river by the Ibadans and drowned en masse; thus the war was named Jalumi which literally means “drown in the river“. Hence the 1878 Battle of Ikirun was also called Battle of waterloo.

Next time don't come rushing on public without having holistic knowledge of whatsoever information you want to pass across.

Brother, you are derailing the topic. You are talking of Aftermath wars. You are the person that brought in Ibadan into my thread. I am saying how Yoruba lost illorin to the Caliphate. I never said wars were involved but I said they cunningly infiltrated una Army and overthrew your leader and declared their loyalty to the Caliphate.

Today, there is a Fulani title called Emir in Yoruba land and all Yorubas living in Illorin bow to him.(Full stop)

forgiveness:
Were was it written in your post that Ilorin was overan by army? Show me

For the fact we have Emir of Illorin loyal to Sultan respected by Yoruba Muslims, Illorin was defeated by fulani.

Fulani infiltrated the Army and over threw Afonja Just as they would have infiltrated Igbo land in the name of Ruga. Automatically, Illorin is gone to Fulani till date.

powerhouse3:
akwa ibom prefer pigin or English to their mother tongue is laughable..

Yes. Trust me. Most of them form American whenever they find themselves out of there region but Igbo man will speak his language proudly wherever he goes

forgiveness:
They released them to had given them hope of reinforcement for another attack that led to......... drowning in water, abi?


On 1 November 1878 the three besieging forces advanced against Ikirun. The Balogun left the Osi Ilori and his followers with the Ikiruns to fight the Ilorins, Ekitis and Ilas, while he took his soldiers to fight the Ijeshas. The first group was defeated, their leader the Osi Ilori was taken alive, and the rest retreated to Ikirun. When the Balogun heard of the failure, he did not panic, but through clever maneuvers defeated and ruthlessly destroyed the Ijeshas. He then returned, defeated the Ilorins and drove them out of their camp, but not before they had killed the Osi. He then defeated the demoralized Ekitis and Ilas. The victory was complete.

The people of Ofa heard that the Ilorins were in retreat, and cut the bridge across the Otin River in their rear. The Ilorins were pushed into the flooded river by the victorious Ibadans, and thousands of men, women and horses drowned. Jalumi means "drown in the river". The battle is so named because of the drowning of the forces of Ilorin.

Brother, those Illorin, Ekitis and Ijeshas are all Yorubas and Yoruba sub groups fighting against each other . My thread is talking of how Muslim (Fulani ) invaded and took over Illorin, spreading it's tentacles across Yoruba land leading to one Yoruba community rising against another

forgiveness:
Ilorin was never defeated or taken by force. All that happened was a place coup. That's all.

Maybe you are ignorant about Yoruba's war laws. You don't or must not kill a refugee of war. That was the constitution.

Ilorin was never a prominent city in Yoruba history. It was a war camp used to defend the Northern enemy, to make weapons and rare horses.

However, you don't need to worry yourself about another man's palaba.

Hahahaha. Please stop. You sounded as a literate the other time, but this last comment you made now is disappointing.

Did you read my first post at all? Didn't you see how Alaffin and Afonja power tussle led to loss of illorin? Please go back and read it

forgiveness:
At least, none of your entire generation was brave enough to establish an Empire.


While the Oyo were reforming their new home, the Fulani bent on reducing the remaining part of the Yoruba country into tributary. The Fulani and the Jamas laid a close siege on Osogbo and a battle ensued between the invaders and the Osogbo army. A large contingent of army under Balogun Oderinlo was sent from Ibadan to raise the siege.

Although the Fulani forces with their overwhelming cavalry almost gained victory, the Ibadan forces realign their strategy by attacking the Ilorin camp in the night. A crushing defeat with great casualty was inflicted on the Ilorin army. The Ibadan forces captured many slaves among whom were four Ilorin war-chiefs, Jimba, the head of Emir slaves, one of the sons of Ali, the commander-in-chief of Ilorin, Lateju and Ajikobi. Of the four, the first two were released to return home while the remaining two were put to death, perhaps because they were treacherous Yoruba who allied with the Fulani.

Although victorious, the Oyo refused to consolidate their victory by liberating the ancient capital. Rather, they peacefully retreated into their new homes. Certain reasons could be adduced to this. In the first instance, the ancient Oyo was located in the savannah and was not secured from incessant invasion of the Fulani. Second, the Oyo army retreated perhaps because they dreaded the causality they could suffer in the hands of the Fulani cavalry if they pursued their victory too far. Another reason was probably the protection the Oyo new home which was located in the forest region afforded them. Nevertheless, the battle of Osogbo was decisive in the history of the Yoruba. For one, the Yoruba had established the fact that they could not be easily overrun by the Fulani again

lol nice piece Sha. But the point is that Your leader Afonja connived with fulani to defeat Illorin.

And due to fear of reinforced attack by Fulani, Your people had to release their war chiefs.

illorin is gone and gone forever, before you become leader of illorin (Yoruba state), You must have to get permission from Sultan of Sokoto(Hausa)

AgentNairaland:
That's there own cup of tea, am not from Kwara state nor from Yoruba land

So therefore, they should enjoy there Next Level headed by a fulani retired soldier and king

Don't mind them. Just look at how they are messing around with Osibanjo.

Even Sowore that is in Prison, they can't even protest but rather in there Cowardic nature have to deny him of being a Yoruba but rather said he is Ijaw.

Choi this people eeh

forgiveness:
"Among the Yoruba generals that responded to Alaafin’s invitation were Kurumi of Ijaye, the Aseyin of Iseyin, the Okere of Saki, Sabigana of Igana and Atiba of Ago Oja. This was supported by Eleduwe forces from Bariba. Alarmed by the serious preparation of the Oyo army, Shitta, the Emir of Ilorin sought the military aid from his overlord, the Sultan of Sokoto. A decisive battle was fought at Otefan. Initially, the Oyo and their Bariba ally had inflicted crushing defeat on the Ilorin army. The victory was pursued too far. The victorious Oyo army chased the Ilorin forces, but was soon repulsed by the Ilorin cavalry. Heavy loss was recorded on both sides."

Stop peddling half baked stories here.

You just posted this one to launder how weak your people are and make you people happy, We understand oh no p.

But our true history says that you people where raped in the battlefield until grown men started crying on their mummy's lap to be cuddled like baby

Chukapage:
guy why now? ,why you dey this LMAO

You need to see them Crying and running like headless chicken after their defeat when they went back to reclaim illorin

AgentNairaland:
No mind Afonja for allowing them

But funny enough, Afonja descendants will always say that Igbo man that buys land and settle is there problem and not Fulani that conquered and forcefully imposed an Emir on them.

SMH

LadyExcellency:
I am talking of land dispute and bloodshed that lasted more than 30 years that ended in 1989/1990

Okay, I don't know about that one. Give me a reference site let me read it up

powerhouse3:
Now I'm. Truthfully cool with the igbo as my neighbor nay brother... But there great mixup we akwa ibom must always correct..

They are a lot of thing we akwaibom are not being given credit for.... The aba riot for instance comprised 60 percent akwaibom ibom women. But who got the credit?

Who owns NSIBIDI?.... coming from a royal family, nsibidi happen to come directly from the epke masquerade... But owner or originality is partially changing hand base on what I see on the Internet.... All this Is we losing part of thing that makes us akwa ibom....... Nyak abasi odiong afed owo........

My brother, Aba women Riot comprised of women from Ogoni, Bonny, Igbo, Opobo, Andoni and Ibibio. Then we were unified and that is why we were very strong and unchallenged.

Mary Slassor (pardon for wrong spelling) is still praised for stopping killing of Twins in Igbo Land.

Ohafia people has a masquerade traditional dance they call Ekpe. I don't really know the origin Sha but what I want to tell you is that Cultural Contact exist and importing and exporting culture will keep on existing.

You people are loosing parts of the thing that made u Akwa Cross because you people prefer Speaking English or Pidgin English both at home and away. It's not our fault that we speak Igbo anywhere we enter

LadyExcellency:
Ndi Abala Nkamiri, Owo-elu, Ndiakata are same with people of Ikorokorieta and their Ibibio brethrens.

Do you remember the war and land dispute between the Ibibio and Ngwas along Nigerian Christian Hospital going towards Ikot-Ekpene were fought by merchineries and these neighbours were still buying from the same market?

My dear, nothing like land dispute. It's just that our foolish Governor (T.A Orji) had problem with Akpabio because our Governor refused to collaborate with Akwa Ibom governor to construct the road

IamAtikulate:
But Fulani people said Yorubas are the problem of this zoo.

Of course they are.

AgentNairaland:
That Foolish Emir Of Ilorin Called MESURU SULE GAMBARI Made Abusing Word History In Yoruba Land.. i.e When Someone Is Doing Things In An Opposite Way To Abuse Such A Person, You Call Him Or Her As MESURU GAMBARI Or SULE GAMBARI

This one is strong o. So you mean that a Fulani King in a Yoruba land made fun of Yoruba people he is leading ??

This is for Yoruba people