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PoliticsRe: Appeal Court Declares Senator Ogba Ebonyi PDP Gov Candidate by donjazet(m): 1:12pm On Jul 19, 2022
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 12:56pm On Jul 19, 2022
donjazet:
I expect to see soo many videos tomorrow of pastors condemning the APC ticket and endorsing Peter Obi.

Soo many churches are going to preach against the Muslim Muslim ticket. Personally I don't like people using the pulpit to preach politics, but if it works for good if us all, I'm fine.
As expected, bishop abioye of winners chapel urges his members to get their PVCs and vote Peter Obi.
A Yoruba christian in one of the top 5 biggest churches in Nigeria both in terms of building size and members population urging his members right there in the north to vote for the only christian on the ticket.

Again, this is taking place in north central region.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuxIgfnFpfw
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:49am On Jul 19, 2022
Skimpledawg:
BAT graphic designer sabi work abeg

e dey make me wan take a decision grin
Surely you won't be deceived by their foolish propaganda.
Never forget how Buhari was packaged for us and how we all fell for it.
An expired fool was packaged for us and we fell for it and now we want to let affliction rise a second time? Never we can't let that happen to us.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:43am On Jul 19, 2022
Amoto94:
I had to share my agbado with another passenger yesterday when he couldn't get one I saw several others queuing up to buy agbado, but on internet we are all rich and eating it is "Haram". My problem with some of us is the fake life we are living outside while we are crying inside.
Stop chatting bullshite. Nobody is condemning any person eating corn or cassave. We are pointing out the stupidity of the proposed government policy from a lunatic with a failed ambition.

We are laughing at the idea of 50 million youths eating only corn and cassava EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Don't forget the last part of that crazy proposal. "What they will eat, agbado, corn cassava,. CASSAVA in the morning, yam in the evening.

Meanwhile compare what people are the warfront in other countries eat below and you further see the sheer senility of your defense of the man.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:31am On Jul 19, 2022
Example of Classic gaslighting below. Don't fall prey to the tactics of enemies of our country.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:30am On Jul 19, 2022
When I talk about mental manipulations and classic gaslighting. This is what I mean.

Somehow, this place has become a safe space for people to try and whitewash the image of a criminal, a godfather of institutionalized corruption in Nigeria. A purveyor of the godfatherism politics that has only been inimical to Nigerian politics.

For instance, ambode was regarded as a hardworking governor by majority in Lagos but because he fell out of line with a criminal drug baron, he was phased out and a useless stooge was put in his place.
This same godfatherism politics has plagued places like Enugu state, Delta, abia and soo many other states, both north and south. And people want this to continue.

Are you people not tired of the old wayd of doing things? Is it not funny that the core supporters of Tinubu happen to be people of just his tribe alone?

Can we really not grow above tribal sentiment? His rant in Abeokuta was a clarion call to his fellow native speakers and they are all beginning to answer, forgetting that this person has been a key part and parcel of this present government.

All the people that Tinubu "made". How have they moved Nigeria forward? Apart from inner city Lagos that has always been a step ahead of all regions in Nigeria due to influx of the wealthy from all parts of Nigeria into Lagos, how else have the rest of the SW fared? Is price cheaper there than in other places?

Is school fees cheaper?
Is transport cheaper and easier?
Is rent cheaper? Is cost of goods cheaper?
The answer is NO!! We all are suffering in the same boat while these men steal our future.

We cannot continue! We must unite and bri6in an entirely new set of people and pray that they get it right this time. What we can NEVER do is continue with this same set of people and hope things change. It will NOT.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:51pm On Jul 17, 2022
Ibime:
Some people wey dey WFH since Covid want enter office by force to enjoy AC. cheesy I go try one method of hanging icecubes in a vented container on back of fan tomorrow. If it doesn't work, I'll see how the children are tomorrow and if they can't handle it, I'll book hotel for a couple of days.
I don't understand. Una no dey use AC for houses for UK? Is it a cultural thing?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 8:29pm On Jul 17, 2022
raumdeuter:
In most cases the hate is misdirected. Most of the things they blame Tinubu for by the time you dig deep you will see that it's unfounded and false
Bros no vex oo. You never still apologize for all these posts below, abi e no follow for unfounded and false narrative?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 8:13pm On Jul 17, 2022
Oasis007:
grin

Glad you are being realistic finally. Its never late for your Party by the way. Nothing is impossible, but you Guys must start doing less work online and much work offline.
First of all, why do you ALWAYS post a smiling emoji before every single post of yours. It's almost creepy. cheesy

Secondly, what do you mean by being "realistic"? I've never made a concise election permutation. I always point out to people that voting apathy has always been very high and all labor party needed to do was bring in millions of fresh untapped new voters which they've been doing very healthily.

Osun and ekiti elections have absolutely no bearing on labor's 2023 elections. People are looking at candidates now, not party. Peter Obi has fully emeshed himself in the national conversation. You can't say that the man won't get at the very least, 6 million votes if the elections held today.

And finally you need to know that Peter Obi supporters are working twice as hard as any other support group. They know the monumental challenge ahead and they are going all out in their little little ways to magnify his presence around the country.

The other parties keep relying on their old machineries and looted state funds to run their campaigns as usual. The air is saturated with Obi supporters unless you are in a social media echo chamber.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 7:20pm On Jul 17, 2022
Oasis007:
grin

Can we now finally agree that pre-election debates are uber-useless and nobody should be disturbing anybody with it?
Lastly we concur!! I've been saying this for a long time. All these permutations are completely useless. A day is too long in politics, talk more of 6 months where soo many alignments and realignments take place.
Some people even change their minds on election day.

I was just looking at old voting numbers of the south east and realized something. Anambra, abia and imo have more than 5 million registered voters but delivered only 1.3 million votes. About 25% The apathy was too high. Unlike northern states that were delivering by as much as 60% turnout.

All these can change soon.

PoliticsRe: How The Hell Did PDP Winning Osun Become A Disobedient Rallying Cry? by donjazet(m): 1:04pm On Jul 17, 2022
OK2NVME:
They never bothered getting their PVCs when the greatest presidential bennefactor to Ndigbo (GEJ) was seeking re-election neither did they even bother to come out and vote and those who benefited directly through appointments and contracts of that govt where the first to decamp to the ruling party. The fact that GEJ's govt was wrongfully labelled an Igbo govt because of the highly sensitive and juicy positions given to Igbos did not even see to them even making an effort to come out and show appreciation to the only govt that had rehabilitated them fully at the national level complete with an Igbo COAS and IGP.

Then when Atiku decided on choosing one of their own in the form of the now canonized Saint Peter Obi, their enthusiasm remained lacklustre and dull with even their own so-called elders and political class working against that joint candidacy.

But when Obi went on his own, we see them rushing to get PVCs and start their uncouth campaigns online.

What changed?

To the Igbo, it must only be an Igbo.

Not a Jonathan nor an Atiku with a Saint Obi can raise their passions to this level it must be another Igbo.

Obidient is just another bipolar side of Igbo Biafraism.
You are a tribal rabid dog. Who the gods want to strike, they first make mad. You are a raving lunatic.

Nigerians are rushing to get their PVCs so as to bring in the most competent, physically fit, intellectually fit and crime record free candidate.

Obi is the best of all candidates, that's why Nigerians of other minority tribes are fully behind him.
PoliticsRe: I Am Now Fully Obidiently.......BATIFIED by donjazet(m): 12:54pm On Jul 17, 2022
Very good choice, welcome to the fold.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:55am On Jul 17, 2022
NOBODY CAN PREDICT NEXT YEAR'S VOTING PATTERN.
I can't say this enough. Shebi the L wey una collect yesterday never clear una eye? With all the primary school line of thoughts?

And yes, it is extremely early to predict the reach of labor party next year. You cannot predict the inroads that would be made, if anything yesterday showed me that the Nigerian electorate might have just learnt split ticket voting for the first time.
Some people would vote for a party house of rep candidate from different party while voting president at a different party. A single person would thumbprint for different parties at different positions, but I feel this would be the most likely option for old voters while fresh voters will thumbprint for one party all the way through.

This is just a basic analysis, based on nothing concrete. Same as all mushroom armchair analysis.

NOBODY can predict how things turnout. Some yorubas value religion over tribe, some don't. Many yorubas are not moved by tribal instinct.

Yoruba and igbos account for the highest intertribal marriage in Nigeria. Many would overlook tribe.

I can't even predict SE voting pattern with the numerous parties there. 2023 is pregnant, that's all.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 9:21am On Jul 17, 2022
Oasis007:
grin

Let me make something clear. SW are so matured and sophisticated politically. You've got to perform optimally to keep your Party at helm in any of SW States.

For instance, look at Abia State, they keep wailing every four years, yet couldn't kick PDP out of the State.

If Adeleke fails to perform well, then he has got a term only to spend. I wish him best of luck though.
I agree with you, so that means, SW wouldn't vote en masse for APC at the federal seeing as the APC has also failed them woefully, right?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:39pm On Jul 16, 2022
I expect to see soo many videos tomorrow of pastors condemning the APC ticket and endorsing Peter Obi.

Soo many churches are going to preach against the Muslim Muslim ticket. Personally I don't like people using the pulpit to preach politics, but if it works for good if us all, I'm fine.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 11:37pm On Jul 16, 2022
BlueRayDick:
https://fb.watch/eiXzu7BCW-/?fs=e&s=cl

While his party dey collect, Aregbeshola dey chop buffet for America .

NB: I don’t support the actions of the man behind the camera tho.
I had mixed emotions watching this. On one hand I don't think it's normal for anyone to just come and be flashing camera on my face and recording me eating. I think there should be a law against that. He's indeed invading his privacy.
But on the other hand, I feel a little bit of schadenfreude. This people are rarely ever challenged on all the atrocities they commit here. It's good to see them squirm under pressure. See as him dey beg the guy dey use hand cover camera. grin A whole government minister wey people here go dey lick him nyash for am. grin. It's good that abroadians don't take nonsense. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 6:03pm On Jul 16, 2022
I'm trying to put myself in an osun person's shoe right now reading these comments and realizing that either way, he's fucked_, for at least 4 more years. More purposeless leadership, more corrupt plutocratic leadership. More greedy leaders who will still end up trying to recoup all the billions of naira used this campaign season, trying to settle the political mafia in the state.

More overbloated state government contracts, more nepotistic government appointments. Less attention given to the electorate until 4 years from now.

WHAT A COUNTRY!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 5:57pm On Jul 16, 2022
Joezinho:
What has been his contribution in the Senate?

He is just a pending disaster like the present governor..
In other words, they were given the choice of choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Do you see why it's good to have a credible alternative that doesn't have to mean you are stuck with 2 traditional bad choices?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 3:22pm On Jul 16, 2022
Griffon:
I believe at this point, the non sentimental lot in Nigeria are only interested in ending the cycle of politicians from the military regimes and down line of age, lot purported to be the heartless embodiment of corruption in not just Nigeria but at the world at large.

They don’t really care about some of PO mistakes, they just believe that the little he has achieved without so much stain on him at a considerable young age, qualifies him to lead the line.

It’s some sort of revolution brother .
That's it bro. And that's all that's needed right now. The selection process of the top 2 parties was a disgrace. They just sold their tickets to the highest bidders. Naturally, this should be between Obi and osinbajo. But they decided that dollars should be the sole factor in the Choice of their flagbearers. Not intellect, not ideology, just DOLLARS!
We need a full change to the system.
donjazet:
All of us are touched by the effects of bad governance. NEVER SIT ON THE SIDELINES. GET INVOLVED.

POLITICS IS YOUR LIFE. Put in leaders that are capable of working for you, not those bothered about settling scores among themselves and can't get to work effectively because of cabals behind the scenes that they had to settle before assuming the office.

That's why the Peter Obi movement is enticing. It represents a people oriented movement. This was a movement spurred by the people. Peter Obi decamped from the PDP because he saw that his support online was ballooning and people he didn't even know were resting their hopes on him to run, even outside the establishment.

People let's give this a try. Let's see if we can send a seismic shock to the establishment.

Imagine a tiny party that had just 5000 votes in the last election suddenly winning with 15 million votes.
Votes from you and i, votes from people who have never voted before, people who simply didn't care, market women and traders who never bothered to lock up shop to thumbprint for politicians suddenly waking up and seeing that we had the numbers to achieve this.

It's enticing to the average masses.

Don't listen to radical tribalists or paid party agents. Listen to your fellow average Nigerian, the one who can see that tribe has never helped the average Nigerian.
Thanks.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 3:19pm On Jul 16, 2022
A reminder that every single human being knows that labor has no chance in today's election. Osun state ended their voters registration soo many months ago. This newly reborn labor party had no hand in the selection of lasun. The present labor candidate. The new labor party is just 2 months old and Obi supporters in the state are actually supporting PDPs adeleke. But know that the presidential election results will be very different 6 months from now.


donjazet:
Let me be the first person to say this here.

Labor party will lose today!! I know that when the inevitable happens, the radical tribalist, the chief propagandist and the paid party agent with a soul for hire would want to celebrate the LP loss regardless of whether their own party wins or not.


Logical reasons why the LP would inevitably lose today.

1. The Peter Obi revolution is less than 2 months old which means that while he's well known to more than 95% of the educated demography, the illiterate rural dwellers who are the traditional members of the 2 party's are yet to know Obi very well and his outstanding values, precedence and principles that have won him soo many admirers and supporters and makes him soo easy to sell.

2. Many of Obi's new converts are people who have not voted before and most likely did not have PVC, hence the rush at all INEC centers today but for the people of osun, INEC registration closed more than 5 months ago and they were one of the earliest to have started registration so there is no way for Obi's brand new voters to get their PVCs in the state.

3. Vote buying and selling. This wicked act will ensure victory for one of the big two. The politicians have mastered the act of weaponizing poverty. Make the people soo poor that they rejoice when they see 20 thousand naira and find the offer too irresistible, not minding the long term consequence.

Over the hours, I will repost this over and over again because I predict the enemies of our country who still proudly support failure and wish them upon us will derive pleasure in the loss of their countrymen's futures.
PoliticsRe: Peter Obi Responds To The Throwback Comment Of Yusuf Baba Ahmed On LGBTQ. by donjazet(m): 3:14pm On Jul 16, 2022
I think he answered well. The truth is no Nigerian leader can come out in support of gay marriage. The Nigerian electorate is simply not ripe for that.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 2:08pm On Jul 16, 2022
BlueRayDick:
Honestly U make a lot of sense here. I always find it distasteful when I engage people offline and they boldly say Igbo will not smell the presidency in a mocking way . I mean how do u not allow this people rule, feel a sense of belonging and the same time u will not allow them have their own country where they can have a say directly in their own affairs.

In Nigeria of today, the Hausa/Fulani see themselves as the key decision makers that must be consulted before any key decision is made . The Yorubas always position themselves to have a major say as well when state matters are concerned . The Igbos are not adequately represented maybe partly due to their own actions and inactions in the past , but majorly due to the fact that major tribes do not rate them .

Personally I think Nigeria is not one and the tribes do not love themselves like that . If we do , we won’t have so much agitations going on at once and even when the agitators want to do away with their agitations they are still not welcome
I honestly cannot understand the rationale behind trying to mock IPOB supporters who now support Obi.

These people have legitimate reasons to feel that they've been marginalized in national affairs and want their own country, (remember, many other groups also seek the break up of Nigeria), you refuse to grant them their wish of secession.

Now they are dropping their secessionist agenda and rallying towards a national project. Are you not supposed to be happy that they are now getting involved in Nigerian affairs and dropping their previous agenda which you didn't like before??

The matter dey confuse me aswear.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 1:02pm On Jul 16, 2022
PoliticsRe: Videos Of Peter Obi Supporters Threatening People With Gun by donjazet(m): 1:01pm On Jul 16, 2022
Useless propaganda. News from agbado urchins community. A.U.C.

Useless propagandists. Smell the coffee. Nigerians want a new way of doing things. Out with the old, in with the new. Say no to A.P.C.
Obi we want, obi we will get
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 12:46pm On Jul 16, 2022
BlueRayDick:
This is not true. I presently do not have Benue state data which u used as an example to prove ur point , but I will try to lay my hands on it and post it when I do.

Attached is the data from Nigerian Bereau of statistics showing that the number of rural dwellers in Akwa Ibom dwarfs that of urban dwellers .

I cannot lay claim to knowing how all the states in Nigeria are structured , but one just needs to objectively look at the number of LGA’s/cities that can be referred to as urban area and juxtapose it with those that are rural areas, u will know the rural areas are bound to have more people live in them.

Attached is Lagos State LGA’s population figures , Just look at Alimosho that is on the outskirts of Lagos boasting of 11million , compare it to figures of “main Lagos” that comprises of LGA’s like Lagos Island, Lagos Mainland , Ibeju-Lekki, Surulere , Eti-Osa.
Lagos is clearly an anomaly, it is a megalopolis. It is a mega city which continually drives population from all around to it.
The below average workers that work in the city would go and live in those rural areas and shuttle from there. This is very different from other states. All parts of Lagos are heavily populated and saturated. You can not use Lagos statistics when talking about population distribution because it's clearly a different situation.

The Lagos situation will be very different from a bayelsa situation or an ekiti state situation.
In Anambra state the population of people in it's major cities, Onitsha, awka, and nnewi would make up 60% of the entire population of the state.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 12:16pm On Jul 16, 2022
Amoto94:
This should interest some.


https://www.nairaland.com/7230836/interesting-transfiguration-ipob-member#up
This attempt to link IPOB to Peter Obi is laughable at best. I remember when you people were trying to link Obi with killing ipob members in ezu river, now you are trying to link him to them by all means possible. cheesy

And looking at the matter in-depthly ask yourself, why did ipob come about? And when did the movement become tainted with violence? Don't forget that in 2017, the movement wasn't violent in anyway. That changed about 3 years ago.

And to summarily put it, if people who were violent for a cause suddenly laid down their arms to clamor for a better nigeria, to abandon their plans of agitations for succession and now buy into a national agenda, isn't this supposed to be glamorized rather than used to mock them?

Don't you like that people that used to make noise about breaking up Nigeria, which you you personally didn't support are not doing that anymore but talking about getting involved In a national political project, doesn't this show you that all along, these people just wanted to feel a sense of belonging in the country?? Don't you understand the symbolism of a Peter Obi presidency to those people? The imagery of acceptance of an Igbo president at long last after more than 50 years of national marginalization?

No igbo man has smelt the top for the last 50 years despite being one of the top 3 tribes in the country. This would mean a lot symbolically for all these IPOB agitators.

And don't forget that IPOB is not the only secessionist group in Nigeria. There is ijaw nation secessionist group and there is Oduduwa republic secessionist group which an able member here is a part of and was seen drafting genocidal plans in one such group.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 12:00pm On Jul 16, 2022
BlueRayDick:
Now this is u seeing things in clear reality like some of us have done since . The voting bloc in rural areas (which outnumbers those in the cities ) will be the reason Peter Obi can’t compete with the two leading political parties. People only know about the broom and umbrella party in those areas, it will take more than a year before election year for u to have it ingrained it in such people’s mind that there’s a third force led by Peter Obi.

It’s just unfortunate nothing will change with either Tinubu or Atiku in power . None of those two will move this country forward beyond where it is now . This is the sad reality
I refuse to be that pessimistic.
Furthermore, numbers prove your assertion wrong.

Urban center dwellers always dwarf the number of rural settlers. In Benue state for example, the population in markurdi and gboko will dwarf the population of 5 rural local governments combined.

The problem as I've stated before is that Nigeria has always had a very large voting apathy problem. Not enough people vote!! Only 1 in 9 people voted in the last elections. Just 15% of the entire population. Statistically, just adding 7% more (8 million votes) to that number is enough to cause an upset.
And I believe that that situation is about change very drastically come February next year.
Only one candidate is inspiring new voters. Only one candidate is inspiring enthusiasm and whenever that happens in an election, there is usually a seismic change in the system in different ways. In 2015, a 2 party system was born. It's about to be a 3 party system next year.

In case you didn't know, labor party now boasts one senator from imo state and 9 house of rep members from Benue, abia, Enugu and imo state.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 8:46am On Jul 16, 2022
Let me be the first person to say this here.

Labor party will lose today!! I know that when the inevitable happens, the radical tribalist, the chief propagandist and the paid party agent with a soul for hire would want to celebrate the LP loss regardless of whether their own party wins or not.


Logical reasons why the LP would inevitably lose today.

1. The Peter Obi revolution is less than 2 months old which means that while he's well known to more than 95% of the educated demography, the illiterate rural dwellers who are the traditional members of the 2 party's are yet to know Obi very well and his outstanding values, precedence and principles that have won him soo many admirers and supporters and makes him soo easy to sell.

2. Many of Obi's new converts are people who have not voted before and most likely did not have PVC, hence the rush at all INEC centers today but for the people of osun, INEC registration closed more than 5 months ago and they were one of the earliest to have started registration so there is no way for Obi's brand new voters to get their PVCs in the state.

3. Vote buying and selling. This wicked act will ensure victory for one of the big two. The politicians have mastered the act of weaponizing poverty. Make the people soo poor that they rejoice when they see 20 thousand naira and find the offer too irresistible, not minding the long term consequence.

Over the hours, I will repost this over and over again because I predict the enemies of our country who still proudly support failure and wish them upon us will derive pleasure in the loss of their countrymen's futures.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 4:34am On Jul 16, 2022
A must watch. Oasis007. Please watch this to the end. The end is particularly important.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNmHngaA/?k=1
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m): 1:37am On Jul 16, 2022
Sometimes I wonder if I'm living in a bubble. Not one single person I know around me is supporting Tinubu. I mean not even one! Both from the work place, my friends and my family. I've seen PDP but the PDP guy is leaning PDP purely on the basis that he feels that voting Obi will indeed be a waste of vote needed to oust APC. Rest assured, I'm working on him.

But I can tell you that over 100 people I've spoken to, not a single one has told me they're voting Tinubu. None of my contacts are supporting or posting support for Tinubu.

For the Tinubu supporters, can you say you've never seen an Obi supporter offline? Or on your WhatsApp status?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazet(m):
Ibime:
Same tribal political discussions our fathers were having is what we are still discussing and supporting today
Very unfortunate.

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