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Jodera:
Lol...
You don't know Ned Nwoko or you don't know Regina's age when he married her?

I just want this to be straight forward and to the point so that I'll get where you're coming from

I've heard about the guy but just a smidgen. I don't know much, i don't even know who Regina Daniels is. Is she one of these new celebrities like these BBN people? If nwoko has slept with children, then he is a pedophile. That's simple. But again, I have no idea about him.

Jodera:
I want to ask you a question.

Would you call Ned Nwoko a Paedophile?
If yes, give your reasons.
If no, give your reasons

Who is he? Did he sleep with children? If he did, then yes of course.

PLEASE, A TIMELY REMINDER THAT TIME IS RUNNING OUT TO REGISTER WITH INEC AND GET YOUR PVC.

Who knows, maybe a powerful 3rd force may arise within the year that we can pitch our tent with without falling back on this 2 party's. Let's not rest on our laurels. Please google the nearest inec registration center near you and go and register. It takes nothing. Just your nin and Bvn. Let's vote out jihadists like amoto and his brothers who occupy elected offices. We can't afford to get it wrong next year.

Amoto94:
I can't prevent a basket from leaking water because it wasn't meant for storing water likewise I can't help you out in your delusion and confusion because this has been your hallmark and modus operandi. I'm not interested to what history has to say about because history has rarely been objective, my stance is what happened in Sokoto is wrong but I support the penalty for blasphemy, sodomites, adulterers, rapists, highway-robbers, defamators and other vices in line with Islamic injunctions. This is my belief

may her blood be upon your head and the head of your brothers.

donstan18:
He cannot say it in the presence of just one Muslim person offline.

Leave all these online tra tra tra.

You are the epitome of a coward. When you grow up, you will see that adults who are passionate about issues don't relent in speaking the truth.

Amoto94:
The vast majority of Muslims including myself condemned what happened but you all chose to ran with the narrative that suited your preconceived notions, this is what has been causing the back and forth arguments.

I didn't even see this before I replied you, but this still reinforces my point.

Amoto94 SAY IT OUT LOUD THAT DEBORAH DIDN'T DESERVE ANY PUNISHMENT. Come out and condemn and disown her killers. Say it boldly.

Amoto94:
In the last few hours new issues have come up, Barça would have serious difficulties closing the deal to sign Raphinha, after Chelsea joined the race for the Brazilian.

{Sport}

Nope. We're still not going to be distracted by the fact that you're a terrorist sympathizer. We're not just going to roll over the fact that it's people like you, students exactly like you who took glee in viciously murdering their classmate.

Come out and say boldly that, IT WAS WRONG IN EVERYWAY TO HAVE KILLED DEBORAH. COME OUT AND SAY THAT SHE DID NOTHING WRONG AND SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN PUNISHED.

Amoto94 be on the right side of history.

BlueMann:
I swear this place has been colonized. I can't recall any non-football related argument which dragged for as long as this one.

It's all cool sha

This is not just an argument!! An innocent girl fvcking lost her life for nothing! and the culprits leaders are actively endorsing them, can't you see how dire the situation is?? You can't say you're not apprehensive about the future. We should all be concerned.

Kholiwe:
The law doesn't allow you to punish someone retrospectively for something you did before the law was changed and quite rightly. Mohammed, in his time, was not a paedophile or rapist, what he was doing then was the same as pretty much every man did. Ayesha was even betrothed to another man before meeting Muhammad. This is proof that Ayesha had reached the age of marriage and engagement in that time. It was not illegal, immoral or weird, it was perfectly normal by the standards of the day. Judging him by standards set 1500 years after he died doesn't achieve anything except allow people to feel smug and troll Muslims.

this is ridiculous. This is just like saying we shouldn't call slave traders slave traders, we should call them chattel traders or business men because the slaves weren't deemed equal to fellow men and were properties, And more was generally accepted.
Well it may have been generally accepted in THEIR society,that doesn't take away from it being wrong.

It's just like saying people who killed twins 100 years ago were not ritualists.

You really can't argue WORD DEFINITIONS.
Rape is when you have sex without the person's consent. It's true now as it was 500 years ago. It's a DEFINITION. It's not only a legal indictment.

Rape is rape whether it happened now or years ago.

But you are digressing from my main point of view.

By definition, Mohammed was a pedophile and a rapist. These are FACTS!
Should one be killed for saying the truth?

And for clarification, yes!! They are all pedophiles.

You really can't argue with DEFINITIONS! Even if ritual killing of twins was accepted 100 years ago, it is still as bad then as it is now.

Anybody who slept with a small kid whether, 300 years ago or today is a pedophile!. I'm not even arguing whether it was a crime or not, the definition is constant. my question has always been, is it blasphemy to state the truth?

Is there another name they were calling those who slept with small children then?
I am stating established truths, not trying to establish the criminality of it. My focus is on blasphemy angle.
Should I lose my head for calling Mohammed what he is, a pedophile and a rapist?

donstan18:
This Nigha actually used “Robbery” to compare to “Peadophile” stuff, yet will complain of “Whataboutism”.

donjazet:
If a man pinned down a woman and had sex with her 200 years ago, is that not rape? If the same thing happens today, is it still not rape?? Evil has always been evil.

So you didn't see the example of rape I also used?
Of course you're always as stupid as usual, why should I be surprised when you act yourself?

Oya post another meme as you no Sabi type past 5 sentences.

Kholiwe:
I have no business with Muhammad. I am here to correct your foolishness. There is so much evidence historically speaking that marriage was allowed legally at a very young age in the past.

Carry your stupidity to your grave, I thought you were here to dialogue, and here you are insulting. Shame I would have loved to drag this out but fvck off back the hole you came from. Enjoy my attention while it lasted.

Kholiwe:
Your ancestors were probably rapist and pedophiles too going by today standard and rules.

If true, then I vociferously condemn their actions, just like I harshly also condemn them if they killed twins and I certainly hope myself and my children will never take inspiration from them for doing those things. If they did, I spit on their graves and hope to banish their memories forever. I will certainly not kill and burn whoever points it out,if true.

Oya your turn, do the same for Mohammed, the certified rapist and pedophile.

Kholiwe:
This is so wrong. Stop using modern day definition to judge actions that happened in the pass.

Why?? Is there any difference between a highway robber who robbed horses on the road 200 years ago and a highway robber who robs motorists today??

Are the both of them not thieves?? If a man pinned down a woman and had sex with her 200 years ago, is that not rape? If the same thing happens today, is it still not rape?? Evil has always been evil.

Especially when you consider that people are literally emulating that exact same crime but instead of being repulsed, they want to roast you to death you for just pointing it out.

Lukgaf:
Your question is even blasphemous in nature . I think that answers question 1.

2. My sister can never be a lesbian.

Trust my response helps

How is my question blasphemous?? Is the truth blasphemous?
Can questions even be blasphemous??

If someone asked me if my father was a rapist, I will be furious if I know that question has no basis in reality. But if he was, I would try to distance myself from his actions. I certainly wouldn't kill the person who is literally asking me the truth so I ask again, how is the question blasphemous??

Again, both of us know that Mohammed fvcked Aisha when she was just 9 years old. That's rape and pedophilia. So my question is grounded in reality.

As for the 2nd question, what do mean by your sister can't be a lesbian. There are soo many LGBT people in our country and around the world. If your sister told you she was a lesbian, what will you do about it?

Jodera:
Lol...

You dey calm down sometimes na, you too like trouble

My dear, no be trouble oo. I don't just want us to take our eyes off the ball.

An innocent girl just lost her life for absolutely no reason and these moslems are doubling down. No remorse whatsoever and we have one of them amongst us.

I need us to truly realize how dire the situation is.

The aim of my question is to establish if someone should die for saying literally the Truth. Not twisting words or anything but saying the TRUTH.

MOHAMMED WAS A PEDOPHILE AND A RAPIST. That's a FACT. He slept with a 9 year old child and married a 6 year old. And because of this, millions of innocent children are being raped LEGALLY around the world including in your country.
We need to keep this flame burning.

50d33q:
This one is looking for who to engage then turn it wotowoto fight
I will pass gabu

I come in peace my man.

BlueRayDick:
Since I was a kid I’ve always known atheists, fire brand Pentecostals , devoted celestials, unrepentant Roman Catholics , devoted Muslims; the liberals and the ones who don’t compromise on tolerating other religions .

In fact I attended a public secondary school and I was exposed to all of these religious sects amongst students and teachers alike. Thus far nothing has changed. Internet only enabled each and everyone of them an avenue to propagate whatever they choose to believe in.

Anybody that claims nairaland made it possible for him to become an atheist had probably been nursing atheism in his mind for a while .

You realize anecdotes are not representative of facts. You can't use your personal experience to generalize a situation.

I was as religious as can be growing up. I grew up in a fanatical home. Nairaland is responsible for me beginning to doubt my faith. Also, watching and understanding foreign movies too. Before personal research and understanding of various other religions.

Soo you cannot say we should stop talking about issues because people will never change their minds, that's a highly dubious premise. What then is the aim of arguments? Is it not to exchange ideas and point of views?

BlueRayDick:
The funny thing about all these religious arguments is; at the end of the day, the Muslim with "extremists" views remains one, the liberal Muslim remains liberal, the Christian who hates tithing refuses to pay tithes, the Pentecostal 'fire brand" Christian will continue paying his tithe to daddy G.O, while the atheist will continue to maintain Yahweh, Allah, Almighty God are all figment of "gullible" people's imaginations.

Then u begin to wonder why waste so many pages of the thread trying to convince people who already have a conviction they are willing to live and die for ?

With continuous messaging, a few will eventually get to doubt their fundamental beliefs.
Just look at sodeeq now. He was never this moderate before but now, see him challenging his fellow Muslims.
We can only continue to sow the seeds of doubt into their minds.

Chai!! Just imagine the people behind the scenes paying for this legal team.

This country needs to go it's separate ways.

popizaino:
If you truly ignored it,how then were you able to point out some of the points in his post ?

We're talking, more is happening. They've decided that they would legally want more dead Deborahs.

This country needs to split at once.

DissTroy:
A quick local-search of " Amoto94 kill" here on Nairaland reveals he's always been an Islamic extremist and a terrorism apologist.

Many of you have called him out for his pro-Islamic-extremism views over the years, but the problem is you all seem to forget after he posts a few Tweet quotes of Chelsea FC activities.

Like here where he was implicitly defending Boko Haram last year: https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-champions/12214#104665240 .
Just because he's literate doesn't mean he's educated.
Literacy is knowing how to read and write, and translate to actions. Education is being refined in thoughts and completely pragmatic, and literacy is just a subset of it.

Funny that we are on the same page on this.

I even forgot how he was defending those Boko Haram extremists. That's even like the tip of the iceberg when you go through his posts, especially the earlier ones. He became more tactful when trying to gaslight us with his extreme positions with time.
The guy is much worse than those bandits. Nothing beats being an educated suicide bomber.

Amoto94:
Reports in France claim that Idrissa Gueye missed the PSG game because he refused to wear the rainbow flag on his kit, the symbol of the LGBTQ+ community.

Nope. Not working. No one is falling for your attempt to divert attention from the fact that we share this space with a terrorist who wouldn't waste one second beheading us and grooms others online. You are a danger to society, you and your ilks.

I'm guessing you brought this LGBT issue here, thinking that it's a common ground for you and maybe others. But guess what you still failed.

If I entered a mosque and said I was gay, there goes my head with you holding the machete and my skin smelling like crisp suya within 5 minutes.
I enter a church and I say I'm gay, the pastor asks the members to stretch their hands and pray for me.

That's the difference. You are a vicious murderer or a potential one and they are incapable of murder. They leave it in the hands of the lord, so no, you are not the same with them.

A001:
Lols, that's according to him. It's a bold and interesting claim that's unverified and may be unverifiable.

It may also be true because those that revealed those stories to him don't seem like jesters IMO.
In history, humans have made various claims about the gods/God; I think with time, we'll know the truth.
And what I mean by dead is the death of the flesh. Consciousness doesn't die.
Based on my own research and experience, consciousness (soul) is a fundamental aspect of the Universe that's immortal, existing in various forms in cycles infinitely, unlike the body that dies after some time on Earth.
That's my view on the subject as an agnostic.

You are still pegged to the after effects of being a religious\spiritual person.
If you're not an astronaut or a physicist or deal in any of the natural sciences, you really don't need to burden yourself with probabilities of the existence of soul and whatnot or god's or whatever preposterous theories are out there. These things don't affect our day to day lives and such putting soo much effort into these things just push you deep into rabbit holes, echo chambers and conspiratorial pits.

Just look at your devotion to otem, can't you see how cult-like, it's now looking on you?? For someone who see organized religion as a cult, don't you see that you're almost admiring this fella more than one should, even though all he does is post wild theories that are highly unsubstantiated. He's clearly a victim of conspiratorial rabbit holes.

Eg,one minute you're googling the name of the former vice president of Nigeria, 2 hours later, you've found your self in a page that postulates that the 1st governor general of Nigeria was a free mason. RABBIT HOLES.
Stop burdening yourself with these tim tales.

donstan18:
Lol.

But including me, 100% of people slandering Muslims and their barbaric acts here won’t do it offline in the midst of the Muslims.

Same thing Seankafor was trying to explain before one werey begin call am coward.

Speak for yourself, I tell everyone my mind. It may be subtle, it may be brash but I always always speak my mind. It's a matter of timing the need for diplomacy better. People will respect you for it and somehow fear you too but ultimately understand you better and work better with you safe in knowledge that you are not two faced.

Banchotmods:
Donkey, this isa product of ah what? Don ah lemon?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZrmCvzoXP8

Wait a minute, I've been hearing that the shooter was an 18 year old white male? Was everyone lying or what. I'm seriously confused.

Mah nigga

izzou:
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For fvcks sake, stop acting surprised. It's already established that he's in sync with these wicked barbaric murderers.

I would bet my balls that if amoto was there, he would be the one arranging the tyres untop the innocent girls dying body to set ablaze like this fella. They're all birds of the same feather.

https://twitter.com/GanzyMalgwi/status/1524722395931680768?t=fFQz2GCcUSTl0gt8hTdlQw&s=19

Amoto94:
After the reputational damages some folks here have suffered in my hands I knew all along they're all waiting for a perfect time to launch an assault against my person, this ugly incident provided an opportunity for all comers to have their pound of flesh. Those who were genuinely concerned I salute your sincerity and zeal for a better society but as for the usual suspects may you get what you all deserve, you don't latch on an ugly incident to settle scores no matter what.

This is who you have publicly aligned with. This is your own mentor, shame on you.

This is what their Islamic teachers teaching them to do .. and you want them to have peace in the land.. he was even saying if Prophet Mohammad forgive siners they wont forgive them.. can you imagine ..? pic.twitter.com/KJALvbh7VK

— M.O.D.A.F.O.K.A (@getrichordietri) May 15, 2022

Funny enough, this is not the first time we're tackling this issue here.i remember that the last time we talked about this issue, it ended up degenerating into the nastiest fight I've ever had.

Funny that the issue is only becoming more and more proclaimed.

donjazet:
No, that is not the main political issue in Nigeria right now. This is;
https://www.nairaland.com/6085374/muslim-lawyers-association-nigeria-endorses-deathpenalty
Your religion and it's legal adherents has just endorsed the legal death penalty of a man who "blasphemed". At least you are a reasonable and moderate Moslem, do you support their stance on this?
Do you think one should be legally killed for speaking against Mohammed?