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Kantebets:
the boy dey cap like jambite sometimes
Young shall grow

He is a jambite indeed. As the young grows, their knowledge expands, this one's seem to be regressing.

donstan18:
Tuchel effect that couldn’t win ucl with PSG?

Or maybe PSG’s attackers had bad stats that season.

Donstupidity strikes again. Never saying anything intelligent. Never capable of giving an indepth analysis of an issue. Just half-baked nonsenses. You are not matured enough to be on the internet dude. Stick to preparing for your waec and stop letting this place distract you. My humble advice.

The athletic seems to be the most reliable sports news outlet out there.
https://theathletic.com/3102894/2022/01/31/chelsea-fans-cant-have-it-both-ways-when-it-comes-to-buying-players/?source=user-shared-article

Forbes top 10 most valuable teams.

BlueMann:
I'm leaving Rangers to join MK Dons bruh wtf

I'm transferring from molde to Valencia for 62 million.

nani667:
Simply watch and delete...

Do you live near a hotel or do you enjoy wasting money??

The OP is viciously called out for his disingenuous post and agenda.

Side note: Hensbens plenty for this page oo.

Ibime:
This was the post

Ibime you are the one who recently pointed out that the poll we conducted here for jorginho which he won overwhelmingly was "loaded", in other words was framed in a way that might make him favourable. How then are you not good enough to see that the framing of this post sets up any player for negative reposits? When you ask "why isn't this person appreciated enough" , that's bound to invite negative responses from the said individuals who don't appreciate him.
Aim the same question at rudiger, mount, havertz, kovacic etc, you are bound to see numerous hateful comments because that question is aimed specifically at them.

But I'm glad that for the loud minorities of ibime's, there are thousands of donjazet's ready to put them and the propaganda in their place. These unfiltered responses under those posts gladdens my heart.

nani667:
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Am I seeing this right??
2.5 gig for one single episode?

Chairman, snap your TV show, I wan check something.
And do you have where you store your movies after watching? Because if you are deleting them after a short period of time like I do, this is unnecessary extravagance or else you are using free WiFi from somewhere, in which case, it's sheer wickedness.

obainojazz:
Okay the boy deserves jail time… career ruined because you can’t control yourself. Should serve as a lesson.

Good one, best comments from united fans, not these enablers who would rather "wait and see" even after hearing the offenders own words.

Free agents in the summer.

Ibime:
Just heard the audio. Man talking tough with a girl. Let's see how tough he will be in jail

He will. He's definitely going to jail.
It seems Manu board had this knowledge ahead of time before it was published.

They are going to sign dembele tomorrow to replace greenwood. Do you think we've missed a huge chance here?

odizeey:
The way everybody dey begin form fake love for these kind of cases dey vex me.

Normal, levels, "Omo. This thing no make sense o. This is a very bad and unpardonable offence. Let's hear what he has to say any this"

Fake love. Some dey say united has to support the girl. Na united friend am? Fake love.
When Brendan Rodgers was abused nobody showed him love. Na man. Political love. Agenda love is all I see around this world.
We are still the same.

So in other words you are turned off by the concern people are showing for this because you have deemed it "fake love".
So your decision is informed by other people's opinions not by your own analysis and judgement of the issue.
Again, broken moral compass.

liveLongNprospa:
Do you think Johnny Depp deserved the punishment before he was pronounced innocent?

I have no idea about the case. I can't speak to it. But always remember that outliers can't override a pattern.
We both know that in our world farrr more men abuse women than women accuse men.
From male lectures who coerce female students for sex, to male employers who coerce female employees for sex to numerous husband's who physically abuse their wives.

The females are far more on the losing side of this than men are. Don't attempt bringing in the outliers to justify crime.

Mason greenwood most likely hurt this female. Don't attempt to gaslight this. It does no one any favors, it speaks to a broken moral compass.

liveLongNprospa:
Who are you to demand how a human should respond to an issue?
What kind of poor attempt at emotional blackmail is this?

Well if it hits a nerve, you should question yourself.

We humans are hardwired to fight for the underdog. Any human with a decent sense of justice is supposed to frown at where a weaker being is overpowered or being disadvantaged.

We live in a world where we know that so many men get away with physical and sexual abuse on women. This is heightened when men with money and power are involved.

Your first instinct when these issues come up {especially one's as obvious as this}, shouldn't be to create justifications but to be outraged. Outrage is the logical response.
If your first instinct is to start finding justifications to the crime, you are an enabler and part of the problem.

odizeey:
Yes. You are human. You feel outraged at first.

But you will be a fool to take actions on what you feel and not what's fact.

Which is why now is the time to be outraged, nobody is acting. We can't do anything to him.

We can only use this opportunity to further educate ourselves on why we must respect women.

People urging caution right now are only diluting that message and inadvertently acting as enablers to actual or potential rapists.

odizeey:
It's obvious you guys can't judge a case without sentiments.

These days it's kill before listening. Wait till you are accused and your career is taken from you because you were not allowed to speak.

We are talking about a life changing event and you are saying critical reasoning should not be brought in?
Again, did you see Greenwood assault her?

Any being with a sense of humanity is supposed to be outraged immediately upon hearing that audio.
If your first instinct after seeing the images and hearing this particular audio is still to be cautious, you do have a problem with your sense of empathy.

If your mind immediately begins to find justifications where harm is done, your moral compass is indeed broken.
We hear a male's voice forcing his way with a girl and your first instinct is to be cautious?? That's awkward.

Darkseidxx:
When a rapist comes back to a club
What do you expect?
He initiates others

This made me remember this.
Ronaldo is only free because of soft circumstantial evidence as is the case with many cases of sexual abuse. People who have soo much money would always likely evade their comeuppance.

odizeey:
Did you see Greenwood assaulting her?

Are you attempting to defend Greenwood?? This question just look somehow.

Ibime it seems it's rape afterall. It looks like he was actually penetrating her during the audio clip. The guy is a rapist.

Griffon:
I've always said it, Jorginho isn't a DM, at least not my spec.

Griffon, is busquet, rodri, Xabi alonso and pirlo your "spec" of DM??

Because one thing is sure so far, jorginho, rodri, Xabi alonso and busquet are all the same types of DM who have anchored their teams to varying degrees of success. All of them undeniably known as relatively successful players.
What is your own spec of DM?

Ibime:
No it's not. His case is domestic violence, and it depends whether the girlfriend will press charges which looks unlikely as she has deleted the pictures. Masons reps will offer her a great package to go away. Fans will give him a hard time though.

Yeah. Sometimes it seems like the line is blurred between the two. A man who's violent to his woman has most likely raped her. I felt sick listening to that audio clip, he really scared the girl.

Greenwood's career down the drain. What's up at Manchester? From Ronaldo to Benjamin Mendy, now greenwood. All, rapists.

dostr4:
I've seen u talk about how we need a cam that can shot or create chance, i ve said same here ..if that can be solved i think the midfield conundrum we have been having for years will be eased. kova and kante role is almost similar in the current setup and they lack being decisive with the ball. i think that's one thing we lack in the team. most a times we have to work the ball from the defense before our wingers get involved and by then the opposition has almost regrouped were as a good Cam will spot them and put the ball into space for them to run unto that's one reason james and chillwell are integral to the team because of the extra numbers in the middle and the chances they create

Indeed. I'm hammering on the fact that we need creative central midfielders. We don't have enough goals and assists from the middle. I do not know if this aurelin tchoumeni has this but if he will improve this aspect of our game, I say we get him.

patrickmuf:
I used to criticize Kovacic for being a poor passed of the ball for all his dribbling skills but not anymore, he has improved his passing and is now a better with raking long balls and defense splitting passes...Even Kante produces jaw dropping passes albeit not on a regular basis...

If I was asked to rate Chelsea midfielders based on their passing abilities, I'd rate Kovacic higher than Jorginho with Kante not far off Jorginho in 3rd...

NB: My position is based on the eye test...

Jorginho is no doubt the better passer between them. However kovacic seems to have really improved this season, I just want him to add goals and assists to his game.
Kovacic plays a more advanced role just like kante, when you compare their stats to players who play the same roles for other top teams like Kdb, kroos, Bruno etc. Their numbers fall apart. Kovacic\kante are lacking in creativity.

Griffon:
One rotten egg is enough to make the whole house stink. Lukaku is behind all these unrest.
You heard it from me first not Fabrizio Romano.

Man, I'm seriously disappointed in Lukaku. Many Chelsea fans had his back, for him to plant this seed of unrest was just inexplicable.

I think there is serious problem in our squad. That dressing room has to be the worst in the EPL. Imagine where 3 key players are just not committed to stay. Azpi, rudiger, Lukaku. These are strong voices in the squad all seemingly desiring a move away. What message does it send to the rest?

Then factor in primary academy graduates all becoming contract rebels and refusing to sign renewals. From Livramento, lamptey, tomori, Tammy etc.
Something is seriously wrong somewhere.

Ibime:
Mumu, so that's what you understood from that? You should be konked on the head

That guy is crazy.

BlueMann:
]"Apart from jorginho's passing, no other midfielder knows how to give accurate passing or has the foresight and vision to release defense splitting passes."

In other words, Jorginho is our only mid who knows how to give accurate passes or has foresight and vision to release defense splitting passes. That's not true now, is it? Kovacic especially would have something to say about that.

My point is: let's say Jorginho is the best passer of all our midfielders, it doesn't mean the rest don't know how to "give accurate passes" or lack "foresight and vision to release defense splitting passes". Na that statement be my wahala.

Once you agree with the bolded, the rest is semantics. They don't do it as often as he does.
But it's important to note that the role of chance creation does not fall primarily on jorginho. That is the role of the forward players. The central and attacking midfielders.

AnfieldFan:
But I wasn't comparing Jorginho to other Dm's, I specifically compared him to Kante and Kovacic and what you're saying he does much better than them doesn't add up with their available stats throughout last season...
Furthermore, I haven't claimed Fabinho or Rodri creates more than him but if those are the stats that support him being a regista compared to them, then they aren't convincing....

Then you have clearly not been following my line of argument recently. Jorginho's role under tuchel has evolved a great deal. Not only does he try to dictate play via passing, his "defensive" stats are higher than they've ever been. Traditional defense metrics such as tackling, interceptions, recoveries are through the roof for him as we could see in the Euro's and champions league.

AnfieldFan:
Yea.... Jorginho creates lots of chances
Kovacic had 27 appearances..
Kante 30..
Jorginho 28...

By the way,these stats are from last season...Which was apparently Jorginho's best..

I would like you to show that of other DM's. Because this season shows us that jorginho surpasses rodri and fabinho in many metrics. You are delegating the role of a central midfielder to a DM. Central midfielders should create more chances than the DM. Is kante, kovacic doin this?
Jorginho proves better than rodri in chance creation despite playing in a city midfield.
Likewise jorginho creating better than fabinho in an ultra-attacking kloop system.

BlueMann:
That isn't what you opined initially.

And as for the question; what do you even mean by better passes? Through balls, big chances created, forward passes? If so, then yes, Kovacic has defo given better passes than Jorginho this season.

What do you think I opined? Of our own midfielders, jorginho is the best passer.
When I say better passes, I mean good weighted passes. Accurate long balls and through balls. And jorginho does this best.
Kovacic has indeed stepped up this season. I personally think he's our most improved player {although in limited appearances} but jorginho has consistently done this.