₦airaland Forum

Christianvoice:
You want a secular Minister of Trade and Investment to oversee the church in your comment?

Churches should be able to account for how money is spent. Why do you think they should be allowed to operate without supervision?

Christianvoice:
Think what? Do you reason things? See, the issue with CAMA is not finances but removing trustees (pastors/priests) without court case. Finances is not a problem.

The priests or Pastors themselves don't have to be trustees to have influence over what the trustees do.

I will not be surprised if Pastor Chris for example is not a registered trustee of CE. But of course, his die-hard loyalists will be trustees.

Lovelyn451:
using church money for what exactly?

If you ask me, na who I go ask?

Lovelyn451:
the holy Bible

And what does Holy Bible say about using church money?

PAGAN9JA:
Disgusting. Truely christianity is a tool of mental slavery and colonialism of WHITES.

When I talk, they call me racist. Last last we will all know the truth. But for many, it will be after much judgement.

White Jesus- That is the foundation of the systematic destruction of our people, ISREALITES, the true people of the book, who are beyond the rivers of Ethiopia.

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia
My worshipers,
The daughter of My dispersed ones,
Shall bring My offering.

White Jesus, white angels, black devil, black demons and you don't yet realize what is happening to you ...hmm?

flamingREED:
Judas had free hand; Eli's sons had free hands.
Uzza tried to stabilize God's falling ark but died instantly.

You heathen people don't learn.
You'll learn the hard way nevertheless.

Judas had freehand to loot treasury, so pastors should have free hand to loot abi?

You Christians have only just started learning, and you're already complaining.

MuttleyLaff:
Professional isn't the same as wannabe. The racist is an exception to this, you're increasingly turning into becoming a professional racist

Nope, I have particular interest in my people, the chosen people of the Most High YAH.

MuttleyLaff:


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You havent yet been seen shooting any whites Haven't yet lynched any white, we you know off. You havent the Jagaban style yet knelt down on any Lagosian/white man's neck in public, but you sire, in your heart, defo have committed racism

Tinubu and other greedy politicians are simply taking advantage of a structure laid down by colonialists to oppress the people. They too will face their judgement if they don't repent.

onomefm:
Are Ebonyi people igbos?

No they are Hausa

FAKES

Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

MuttleyLaff:
Inconsistencies makes me feel somehow. You went personal on him, instead of focusing to solely address the matter at hand, you went for a below the belt punch with "bleach, fry their hair and form American accent" when its obvious who the person is, known for doing just those three.

I don't think Pastor Chris bleaches or forms accent. So you're already out of line.

Image123:
Donnie, Racism is
1. animosity toward other races: prejudice or animosity against people who belong to other races
2. belief in racial superiority: the belief that people of different races have different qualities and abilities, and that some races are inherently superior or inferior

1. Have you seen me shooting any whites? Have I lynched any white you know? Have I kneeled down on any white man's neck in public? Biko free me jare, is it by force to join you in worshipping white man?

2. Yes, we're a much more superior race and that's a YAH-given blessing. No apologies for that.

Esdras 6
55 “All this I have spoken before you, O Lord, because you have said that it was for us that you created this world.
56 As for the other nations that have descended from Adam, you have said that they are nothing, and that they are like spittle, and you have compared their abundance to a drop from a bucket.

If EDOM/Amalekites/white people have done anything worthy of judgment (for which there is ovehweling evidence to the fact) they should prepare to face their judgement. And that's not my problem.

Image123:
Lol at my history. What has your history done for you since you knew it again? Have you been to Egypt BTW?

Have you visited heaven before to see J-zee?

This truth revolutionized my life and put me years ahead. I was able to see these calamities befalling the earth ahead of time and positioned myself and my house accordingly, with several others. I would have been lost and confused like most of you.

While some Christians are busy binding Satan so that he will not send them into hiding before their rapture, others are told to sow seeds towards TV stations in China so as to tackle the Antichrist.

ISRAEL can burn and go to hell for all you care right? Pastor is always right

YISOLELE (ISRAEL) then and now.

Image123:
And the proof is donnie's computer and his pictures. How convenient.

There's enough evidence, even on the walls of Egypt to disgrace lairs and theives.

You don't know your history. You see everything through the lenses of fake white J-zeus.

MuttleyLaff:
This is someone you once looked up to, idolised and loved greatly, so why you no accord him with high respect/regard, the same way, manner, tone et cetera you did with Winners' head honcho, hmm? David still respected king Saul to death, in spite of king Saul's shortcoming(s) and attempts to kill David. He even spared king Saul, when he had the chance to easily kill him

Please I nor get time for all this your preaching. Did you ask me to address him or to address the matter?

We're dealing with issues here you start placing big figures here and there, so that I will do what? Is that not witchcraft?

MuttleyLaff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bphZqgAof9Q

donnie:
Wetin consign me with una Christian blindness.

This deception will soon clear from your eyes and the millions that have been bewitched by white J-zeus and the abominable lies of a white ISRAEL.

You are not black, that's why many of your people bleach, fry their hair and form American accent.

And that's not to say that I support the satanic BLM movement.

I already addressed that.

YISOLELE (ISREAL) then and now.

YISOLELE (ISREAL): Fake Vs Original

Egypt then and now.

Egypt then and now.

CodeTemplar:
...keep it sensible. The govt forced them to register by discriminating against churches not registered.

Why shouldn't they register? How will we know the difference between criminal organizations and places of worship?

Wetin consign me with una Christian blindness.

This deception will soon clear from your eyes and the millions that have been bewitched by white J-zeus and the abominable lies of a white ISRAEL.

You are not black, that's why many of your people bleach, fry their hair and form American accent.

And that's not to say that I support the satanic BLM movement.

Image123:
Omo see Donnie oh, now surviving on youtube views. It is well oh. Anyway, cama or no karma, Jesus Christ is not a racist. Government has too much on its plate that is grossly mismanaged. This new move to help non-government organisations to manage is not very wise. Another copy cat product. They should remove the logs of wood all over their eyes before talking about the specks in the non government organisations that we didn't vote for.

Keep deceiving yourself. If I have deep interest and have received training in science, you might want to call me a scientist. If I've studied and have interest in Archeology, you'd call me an archeologist.

If the Most High and MESSIAH will take particular interest in this race of people known today as ISRAEL (YISOLELE/ ISOLATE). Then you can call him a racist ...No big deal.

Deuteronomy 28:1
And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that YAHUAH thy ELOHIYM will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:

Matthew 15:24
He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Your so-called general Jesus, general gospel, general god, general salvation exist only within the lies of Christianity AKA Babylon.

CodeTemplar:
Boxed into a corner, you are forced to speculate about Jesus. I like that.

By the way, I don't care about Oyedepo or Oyakhilome rendering account for me to see. I release my tithes towards God through them willingly unlike tax I am compelled to pay.

How many account have govt rendered to me. The average project done for less than half a billion under Oyedepo and Oyakhilome goes for many many billion under govt that's fighting corruption and you expect me to want a rendering of account from a church I am not compelled to remain or forced to join? You must be deeply stúpid.

That's not speculation, its called deductive reasoning. And by the way, you are COMPELLED, LIED TO and in fact THREATENED using scriptures quoted out of context, to part with those monthly sums you call tithes.

I sha agree that government should get it's act right first wrt taxpayers' monies before eying church funds.

CodeTemplar:
You mean countries with homosexuality laws?

O pleeease... Na today NIGERIA begin copy copy?
And YES countries with good roads, power, social systems, security etc.

CodeTemplar:
Did Jesus render annual account to his followers with what Judas kept as treasurer? Didn't Jesus receive gifts? Didn't Paul receive gifts? By the way, no one is forced to belong to any church so if you do not agree with how funds are spent, you can always leave instead of talking all deranged.

Why not? So the the bible must write it first?
Judas must have kept records and provided same when required, reason he was TREASURER.

Tell me, was MESSIAH's group registered under government? Did they have the freedom to operate like today's churches? Did MESSIAH receive money from millions of members like we see today?

We're not even talking about the young upcoming pastors everywhere whose goal in life is to have money like Pastors Oyedepo or Oyakhilome or Adeboye. Many don't even keep records, they wire the money directly into their bank accounts or put the tithes straight into their back pockets.

MuttleyLaff:
Gbam!
Law of God and law of man

"You must make the tabernacle and design all its furnishings according to the pattern I show you."
- Exodus 25:9

"See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain"
- Exodus 25:40

"The place where they serve is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven.
This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle:
“See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.”"
- Hebrews 8:5

The pattern is and should be according to what is shown by Yah aka God

The Pattern:

Acts 4:33-35
[34]Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
[35]And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

CodeTemplar:
Charitable is different from Charity plus the govt could have made a religious organisation status available instead of forcing the church to be registered under the forced category of "charitable organisation". It makes no sense.

The same is obtainable in other more developed countries.

paxonel:
the pattern he is referring to is an autocratic system where pastors spend church money without the church members or the government questioning them. Is that suppose to be a pattern from God?

Hmm

orunto27:
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HE IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. THAT IS THE BLUE PRINT.

We're talking about people's money, you're saying WAY TRUTH AND LIFE.

This is how they do... When the catch them red-handed now, we will start hearing "no one is perfect".