delugajackson: That is why it is critical in Islam that once a woman like Christabel begins to exhibit her immodesty and lack of humility towards her feminine frame, she gets lapidated immediately. They don't have to wait until she begins leaking out nude and raunchy pictures like these.
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Bossontop: Oga pastor i cant jus see mysef having and driving all the best cars life has to offer and not having joy.......if u tink I'm lying jus try me and see
MiddleDimension: i am curious @donnie @joagbaje @highered. what do you all make from this intepretation of the visit of the magicians to jesus coming from your fellow beliver?
Shepherd00: I have given you an answer, but of course you won't believe it because you have already believed the satanic version.
So you by any Chance know Jesus is the HEAD OF ALL PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS? You said you were a Christian right? you shd know, so tell me, what does it mean?
MiddleDimension: .... alot of us scientists also enjoy this joy @donnie
Really?
You, plus all philosophers, plus all scientists originated from the Word... and so do your "insides" from where you say you derive joy.
John 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
What you and your co-travellers try to do is steal His glory.
Hebrews 5:4-5 And no one takes this honor for himself, but only when called by God, just as Aaron was. So also Christ did not exalt himself to be made a high priest, but was appointed by him who said to him, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”;
germanized: Well then, he just failed in that regards as well... Nobody enlightened wears sunshades indoors, especially not for a business summit... That's why most developed countries still believe Africans are bush people...
He is a bushman, you are a bushman too... (No vex)
You're a dummy... If you had any sense, you'd notice the sarcasm in my statement.
Anyone can easily tell Ayade is a bush man and a scam, only interested in putting up a good show for the cameras and the media.
MiddleDimension: and how does this mean i am propagating them? i only attended their public lecture because of my love for knowledge. i am an atheist who attended their lecture. this is because i am ooen minded unlike born agains
If I had a mind of my own, I will open it. But , I have the mind of Christ.
1 Corinthians 2:16 ... But we have the mind of Christ.
Did I argue that you're not atheist? Mbok, kpoņ me o.
MiddleDimension: please show me where i mentioned it that i am a Rosicrucian. as for Eckankar et al, i have never mentioned any such thing here. please show me where i have ever mentioned it so that people here would know you are an honourable man.
i have always been an athiest. the reason i mention and i think i like the Rosicrucians is that these people are very open minded, and are the reason why i am a bit kind to you theists today. some of the things they talk about are the things we physicists say too.
mark it today; apart from agnostics and other secularists, mystics are the ones an atheists would find the most interesting. the Indian sadhguru is also an interesting man. he is called by renouned universities around the world to talk about some of the things he talks about. Oxford, Cambridge, Yale, Harvard, etc. if you know anything about secular people, it is our love for knowledge to inspire choices. that those universities also call him, is to confirm to you that people of knowledge (atheists, agnostics and secular humanists) find mystics interesting, hence my likeness for Rosicrucians.
fratermathy: There's nothing like Lodge society. However, there is what we call a Lodge in Esoteric organisations. It just means a collection of members. It is a term used in Freemasonry, AMORC, O. T. O, Oddfellows, etc etc. When members are gathered for a common purpose, they effectively constitute a 'lodge'.
MiddleDimension: i have always known him to be an oyedepo blind apologist. it is a good thing he is seeing the light now as can be seen in his opinion. the debates we atheists have with them is yielding fruit. the next people to see the light now are @donnie who unfoortunately is still not seeing it, even though he has it right by his side all through his life. the others include @olaagbedu, @asuustrike, and the jehovah's withnesses here. the likes of @frosbel, @joagbaje et al, are improving
SMH
So you're now an atheist? What about all them AMORC, ECKANKAR, GRAIL etc you promoted?
Will I say I'm surprised? Naaah, not in the least...
Some Christians actually believe that it is impossible for a Christian to be Demonized.
Unfortunately too. Some people have made Deliverance the solution to all problems. This is wrong.
Even dreams have been turned into something else. There must be a balance in everything we do. The only are I have problem with your post is the bolded.
If any may be in Christ, he is a new creature? That is very true and Nothing can be added to that
The fact that he is a new creature does not negate the fact that he could be oppressed.
A lot of deliverance can be done by one self. But people like Pastor Chris can have greater faith to uproot demonic influence in some peoples lives. I don't see anything anti scripture in that.
The disciples asked Jesus: why couldn't we cast out the demon from the little boy....
Every believer can and should cast out devils from his life or others'. However, this doesn't mean he is being delivered again and again.
That's a wrong teaching. That consciousness can keep God's people in unnecessary bondage.
Why will I be deliverance conscious when I can be righteousness conscious?
shadeyinka: The original argument was about the fact that a Christian cannot be Demonized/Possessed of a demon. How come a demon was speaking through the woman?
Did I suggest that a Christian cannot be demonized or oppressed of devils? In fact I gave certain conditions under which that can happen.
My problem (actually the concern of any genuine apostle of Jesus) is with making a doctrine out of experiences. That is wrong!
Our experiences do not negate the Word of God. The Christian has already been delivered! What the minister does is to help the believer come into his/ her inheritance in Christ. You do not assume the place of deliverer of God's people. That's who Jesus was to them.
Proverbs 11:9 An hypocrite with his mouth destroyeth his neighbour: but through knowledge shall the just be delivered.
shadeyinka: I know Rev Chris does lots of healings.
I really haven't seen him do much of deliverance (I am not saying he doesn't do Deliverance): it's just my observation. What I see is people falling under the annointing...it could be deliverance and it may just be a falling under the annointing.
But I am not concerned about Rev Chris. I am concerned with bonafide children of God who talk so much theory with no practice to back it up.
I used to think Christians cannot be demonized until I began to see Christians who should be born again manifesting during deliverance prayers.
I used to think Christians cannot be demonized until I had to pass through both self deliverance and ministered deliverance. From experience, I can tell you that a Christian can be demonized.
Possession is a very strong and unscriptural word. The correct word is Demonization (which means under the influence of demons)
I am also a proponent of first leading a person to Christ before ministering deliverance because I feel that maintaining a deliverance is more important than the deliverance itself.
How would you sincerely place your theology if the person you lead to Christ begins to manifest during prayer. Would you say such was never born again in the first place?
You need to listen to and watch Pastor Chris more. He does cast out devils a lot and with great power and authority. There are not many that I know that cast out devils with as much authority.
Your challenge I see is with doctrine. A Christian may be oppressed but not possessed except he allows or infact, invites such to upon to his/ herself. Even then, the moment he/ she decides to come out, they can do so only by the Word.
Even though there may be some who need the help of another Christian or minister to be free from such oppression, it does not mean that they couldn't have been freed by standing on and declaring God's Word.
Even the so-called deliverance ministers, by what do they minister deliverance? Oil, hankie, water or the Word?
When a soul comes to Christ, that is enough deliverance. There is no other deliverance you can conduct that's greater than that.
Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
He may due to sin or ignorance of the Word open the door for demonic oppression, but the same Word brings freedom.
Possession is unscriptural? . Are you for real? Should I give you scriptures?
shadeyinka: I do respect Bro Gbile Akanni: he is certainly one of the most real men of God around in our generation. But Bro Gbile is a Teacher of the Word. I am not sure of his other spiritual gifts. Hence, healing , deliverance, Prophecy and word of knowledge may not be his area of specialization.
Let's assume that Christians DON'T need Deliverance, but Christ has given Christians Power to thread upon every kind of demonic forces. How many of you have casted out a single demon from an unbeliever?
If you haven't, you are not qualified to speak on whether a Christian can be demonized or not. You are just a theoretical Christian
These signs shall follow them that believe: is not just about praying in Tongues.
Have you heard Rev Chris Oyakhilome teach on this subject?
Ishilove: Go back and read your bible. Jesus Christ himself was the Chief deliverance minister. So were the apostles after him. The first thing you should understand is the concept of deliverance itself
So for you, casting out devils = deliverance? To the point where is has become a doctrine in churches.