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modelmike7:
Haba, just wish a broda well and move on. Why are some people like this now?!

I'm only responsible for my comment, not for what you feel.

AntiBrutus:
Okay, try and tell that poster too...that some men are not polygamous. That's my area of point. Thank you.

No doubts.

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eyinjuege:
No offence was taken initially, and I'm also not trying to offend you. Just a normal discussion about some of the roles of parents whether mom or dad.
Have a good Sunday..

Alright brO, thanks for the contribution.

Bless up.

AntiBrutus:
Same way there are also non-cheating men, who have refused to be polygamous in nature.

Now, the women that are not single, are they polygamous in nature?

@Bolded, not really.

But that's not my area of point, i'm trying to tell you that some side chicks are monogamous, they may be single before being used as a mistress by a cheating man, they mustn't belong to any man before being approached at.

eyinjuege:
We're not talking about the emotional needs of the parents here but that of the child. Its not enough to show or not show you're worried about your child. The main thing is about the child's needs.
For example, the sick child in hospital feels terrible due to the illness, is mummy or daddy there with him to hug him, touch him and tell him its all going to be alright?
Is daddy there to comfort him in hospital and to make him feel loved and not alone or abandoned in illness? Is daddy there to wipe away his tears?
As parents, we all have our needs too. Lets not mix our needs with that of the children as they are seperate from one another.
A father /mother should be the number one cheerleader of their child. We should all try to be close to our children and show it that we love them.

I Initially apologized for not being specific with my comment.

Well, you made a point.

greiboy:
1) Why are using your own analogy to confuse yourself bro. Tell me something, do you even watch football at all, or are you just trying to be funny

Without messi how well do Argentina play?

Without Modric, how well do Croatia play?

Without Essien, Ghana made it to the world finals and almost made it to the semi final of a world cup. Essien was never really influential in his national team like the examples you gave

2) it seems you like contradicting yourself for fun, I shouldn't compare Lauren to Essien because it no longer favors your argument?

Even though Lauren won nations cup and Olympic medal with Cameroon and Trophies with arsenal. He also did well with pompy by winning a fa cup medal, but according to you, he is a nobody when compared to Essien

I said Adebayor didn't achieve much in arsenal because he played in a weak arsenal team when compared with Chelsea of 2004-2009 era, which won premier league title three times and every other trophy available in England, they also won the champions league without Essien playing an important role.

Arsenal on the hand, won nothing after adebayor left the club, Tottenham have not won anything till today. However, Madrid won a league during his time there.

I didn't talk about song and gev because it seems you have stop talking about moses, kalou and Mikel in your post. .. Have you agreed that they are less than average players

In the picture is BBC rank of the most popular teams in Africa to dismiss this your notion.

Arsenal is ranked first with the highest followers on the African continent, despite your naive believe that Africans don't know Arsenal African players

Did you just asked if I watch football? ,.... One of argument's joke, I guess.

Yes, there's no different between Argentina with Messi and Argentina without Messi, prove me wrong on it, incase you don't know Mr, record and statistics has it that Argentina of before is far more better than that of now, record has it that Argentina of Maradona is far more better than that of Messi,.....Now tell me, what has Messi made Argentina achieve?, how well did Messi perform in all the Finals they'v played...I still stand with the motion that Messi haven't done anything for Argentina, and you cannot prove me wrong.

You typed of Modric...Smh, so Modric is now a player Croatia can't do without?, huh?, I don't just get, how do you mean?...Who's Modric that Croatia can't do well without?, how good did he perform in the past Euro?,...Tell me, how?


My initial point was that Lauren is a normal player, not that he's better or not better than Essien, i'll remind you again to do well to know that we aren't comparing the both herein...... Let me ask again, Is ADEBAYO and LAUREN a world class player?, answer me.

Stop highlighting what Lauren won with his country, we aren't discussing about what they won with their nation, you shouldn't drag an off contexted point just to back up, I wouldn't have mentioned Essien had it been we were arguing on national achievements. Our point here is how your above initially mentioned players contributed and won a trophy for their club in order to pull African crowd and fans, don't derail.

I didn't stop typing about Moses and Kalou, I asked you to name Gervihno's achievement and how he's better than Moses, you ignored it, or will I say, dodged it.


Concerning your Twitter ranked point, the thread didn't talk of social media followers, it say "Agbero"....Abi agbero for ur side de obsess for media?

greiboy:
I don't get your argument bro you are moving back and forth

You said I shouldn't rank Adebayor above Essen because of personal achievements, rather I should use something else

Yet, you brought up the analogy of okocha of not achieving much accolades in his career to tackle Gev skill sets over Moses. Because you believe achievements is more important

Furthermore, You said Lauren was only better than papisise because of the team he played with, but you believe Essen achievements is way better than Adebayor achievements despite knowing Essien played in the best Chelsea team ever, better than the arsenal team in those days

Let me clarify something to you, Adebayor scored important goals that took Togo to nations cup, something they didn't manage to achieve before him. He scored important goals that took Togo to the world cup(a nation with the population of Enugu or oyostate). Adebayor is the highest goal scorer in togolese football history. He is one of top scorers in Africa nations cup history. Stop being deliberately ignorant of those facts

Tell me what Essen managed to achieve without Chelsea, bear in mind he never really featured for Ghana in most competitions Ghana performed well.

Lol

Where did I say that you shouldn't rank Adebayo based on achievement?, are we comparing Adebayo and Essien or arguing on his influential contributions to Arsenal?, what did he do for Arsenal to get a trophy , what did he do for Madrid and Man city? why not answer me straight, Is Adebayo a world class player or a normal player?

We are not comparing Lauren and Essien stop shifting the argument ....i'm trying to let you know that Lauren wasn't upto the standard to pull crowd with his achievements and besides why did you say Chelsea was better than Arsenal in those days , Biko, which days?

You didn't type of Song and Gervihno, have you accept the fact that they are nothing but normal players?


Asking me to tell you what Essien achieved without Chelsea is like asking me to tell you what Messi achieved without Barca, What Giggs achieved without Man u, what Rooney achieved without Man u, and what Bale/Modric achieved/achieving without Madrid.

Ma Nigga , Just accept that Adebayo and Lauren were a normal player then

He's just like Benteke of Aston Villa then, Ashely young of Aston Villa then, Zaha of Crystal palace now, Dembele of Celtic now and Lacazette of Lyon then

Just normal players....Forget England hyping

mrphysics:
When do people lose in a relationship?
I really want to know when it can be said that one lost in a relationship.
Cc Donstan18

Morning brO!
You mean "Being lost" in a relationship.
Or lost in a past relationship.

eyinjuege:
How is it possible to hide someone else's emotional role? Can you pls kindly explain.
My own understanding is that you're either there to support someone emotionally or you're not.

Sorry for not being specific, I meant being emotional traumatized and bothered about the bad fare of your kids.

You know mothers naturally makes theirs, obvious to you than fathers, but deep down, fathers are more bothered.

greiboy:
@,adebayor
Do you know adebyour at all

did you watch football during his prime

> Won African footballer of the year in 2008
> BBC African player of year
> Adebayor was part of the top the goal scoring charts in England at various times

@luren
Lauren and psppise cise, do you know the position luren played on the field?

Do you know how many African players played like him during his time.?

.Do you understand his playing role at arsenal continue to inspire generations after him ?.

Lauren was a very important part of arsenal invisible, he played several positions on the field but was a right back


@Song
So a player that was good enough to attract the attention of Barcelona is just normal, sure he couldn't make the grade at Barcelona because there were simply better players. Barcelona was the best team in world at that time (mou confessed to this much as a Madrid coach) .

@ Gervihno

You want to compare the statistics of gev to mosses.

Gev had won best players in French league and done well in arsenal

He was never deployed into a defensive role to accommodate him in the team

His skill set is way better than that of Moses


Essien is recognized more than adebayor in Africa, dude you most be a Joker

I will restate again than only Drogba and weah were stand out players in Africa continent to play for Chelsea. Weah played at the time the English premier league was not popular in Nigeria

neither were Nigerians but somehow we are discussing about abgberos in Nigeria and deliberately neglecting the Nigerian African icon "Kanu" who going by your assertion should have more impact on Nigerian perception

I want to get this straight, are you in any way calling Adebayo a world class player?


I named Cisse doesn't mean he plays the same position with Lauren, I was trying to tell you the level of player he is, Lauren wasn't outstanding in anyway, forget the fact that he played for Arsenal, it's just like some saying Casmiero is better than N'golo Kante, simply because he plays for Madrid.


Talking about attraction to barca, so once a player is attracted to barca automatically makes him wonderful? huh?
How about Portuguese Andre Gomes in barca, isn't he a normal player?
How about Alcacer, Paulinho, and Roberto? aren't they normal players?

You sef U de fall handz oo...So you see Song as a world class player then?

Concerning Gevihno and Moses, I think the question should be, what did Gervihno achieve? , you think it's by skills?

If it's by skills, Okocha will be more recognized than Kanu and Mikel. ..But, Kanu and Mike are toping him in football level, achievements, recognized and decorated players in Nigeria

Yes, Essien is more recognized than him , what did Adebayo achieve as a footballer?

Chelseafc gave England African supporters , that's the truth that ought to be embraced

2morogobeta:
why
which one is worse

Both of them are worse.
But, if I'm forced to choose, i"l say B is the worst.

XhosaNostra:
How so? I'm not really getting what you're trying to say.

I'd still choose the death of a father any day because losing a mother is just soul crushing. You're never the same again.

Your choice, I think

Well, it depends on how close you are/were to each of them.

2morogobeta:
what are you saying please?
which one is worse A OR B

Both of them.

AntiBrutus:
And women are monogamous in nature?
The women you polygamous men cheat with, no be another person women? What an irony...

Sometimes they aren't..... they can be single.

XhosaNostra:
A

Losing a mother is the most traumatic experience a person could ever go through. You lose your anchor, your lighthouse & your security blanket.

Fathers' roles in my opinion aren't that pivotal in a girl child's life.

It's more provital than you can ever imagine, you'll know only mother will open up to tell you.

Most mothers do hide some father's emotional roles from the kids.

greiboy:
You really think so

Adebayor was not big hitter in his time. Competed for golden boot, I can't really remember if he won it. Earned big money move to city. Listen to francophone songs, they often praise him, as much as Drogba

Kolo toure won a lot of accolades for his defensive prowess that earned him a move to big money Manchester united. He even scored more the obi Michael playing from a defensive position.


Lauren was a joy to watch , ask Cameroonians and People from French speaking part of Africa

I see you have added Moses cause I deliberately omitted him, cause you know he couldn't match up to Gervihno (another African player)


Song was popular and decent enough to attract the attention of Barcelona during his prime

The only really stand out player from your list is weah and Drogba, but how many agberos knew about the league when weah was playing for chelsea.

Did you call Adebayo a hit? , well, it depends on what you see hit as...It's no news that Arsenal fans can tolerate and praise any kind of players that's one thing with them....If Adebayo was a hit, what possibly happened to him at Man city and Madrid?
I don't see him as a hit....infact he's not a hit.

I never doubted Kolo toure's prowess, I initially accepted Kanu and toure from th list you made...He was good then.


Lauren was good to watch, but have nothing to prove him an outstanding and influential player, he was just like Sissoko, papisse cisse and any other normal African players,


Moses is better than Gervihno, prove me wrong


After, the decent attraction to barca, what happened there?, how far did he go?, as easy as La Liga and big as Barca, he still couldn't cope....My Nigga, believe me when I call these players "Normal", they are just normal

Drogba and George weah can't be the only outstanding players on my list....Guy, nawa for u ooo...How about the likes of Essien, didn't his dopenness attract Madrid to ask for a loan?

Typing about Agberos who knew George weah, you mustn't know some players before you strike a support...Past names sometimes attracts fans.

Shugavee:
God punish you

God is already punishing us by giving us the government we have

greiboy:
only two Africans made it into made into Chelsea team too as at 2004, essien and Drogba

Solomon kalu and Michael only came much later. I can't recall of other Africans with a successful career after those four in Chelsea

Arsenal had the likes of

Kolo toure( before mou)

kanu nwanko (before mou)

Adebayo (After mou)

Luren (before mou)

Alex song (after mou)

Eboue (Slightly after mou)

That is six to four, although I can add the likes of celestine babayaro( before mou) for Chelsea just to even the equation a little


Wenger has always been a fan of African players, although mou is quite similar to wenger in that regard

Lol Ma Nigga ...U made a point shaa

But, these players you named excluding Kanu and Toure weren't big hit and influence to the team's success nh...There likes can't even move or pull African fans

You cannot compare them with the likes of George weah, Essien, Mikel, Drogba, Kalou, moses..…Players that pulled fans from Africa

If we should go by your point of featuring any black player with less influence and potentials, then we will conclude that Newcastle United has featured most African players.

Wenger features french players than any other.

Shugavee:
abeg weyti this one dey talk??

Komot jaree

Shugavee:
Chelsea fans are bunch of touts!!! If u know u know!!

You'll marry a Chelsea fan....Football will be making her Hot than you

patval:
No stopping No loitering No eavesdropping Keep moving

Lol

greiboy:
lol

kolo toure had being in arsenal for a long time


owusu abiye from Ghana

Christopher weir from Liberia

kanu nwanko

Arsenal wenger has always been a fan of players from African origin

Lol, you don't get my point.

I mean, how many African players did Arsenal played when they were at their peak of form and success, it was just french players then.

The likes of Henry, Wiltord, Pires, Overmass and one black french midfielder like that, I'v forgotten his name.

DiabloGato:
your head dey there

Lol.

greiboy:
or Chelsea were the biggest thing in England when the league became popular in Nigeria

London teams such arsenal, Chelsea crystal place and Tottenham have always had African players

At a point
Arsenal had

Adebayo

kolo toure.

Eboue

Alex song



Playing in our first team

From which year did Arsenal started featuring these players, Chelsea of mourinho then in 2004-2006 did and won title which made those players more popular.

How many Africans excluding Kanu Nwankwo won league with arsenal?

patval:
Am all ears

Just passing

DiabloGato:
because Chelsea fans are passionate.




this pic has to be in your top ten best moment as a Chelsea fan. joy unspeakable!!!!!!

Top ten?

That picture should be the second best moment of any true Chelseafc supporter,


The kyn voice wee I loose that day with my hommies eh!

Torres fvcked Valdez big time with that goal

Splinz:
Her point is at best, an undefined one.

You see, there're 'necessities' and a 'necessity'. Here, I'd simply look at the former as human wants while the latter is our needs. Applying the basic knowledge of "wants" & "needs" in economics will further help in clarifying my own point.

What do you think of this picture:

A. Washing machine is a Need;

B. Washing machine is a Want?

cc: donstan18

Lol.

Washing machine isn't a need, because one can live and survive without it, it's a want, because I see it as necessity people will love and desire to have if they have the money.

You initially typed of that of such gadgets not being necessary, hence prompting me to tell you that the lady made a point.

Further more on your "want" and "need" clarification, i don't think poor fellows will have anything to bother about "Wants", it's meant for rich people. So my point once again goes that nobody should note or see these things as waste.

Splinz:
Someone should tell Eniola that a washing machine is not one of the "basic necessity of life".

Her supposed 'rich mentality' has obviously eroded common sense from her.


And if you ask me? I think that is too much a price to pay.

Truth be told, she made a point......I just don't know if I should call that "Poverty mentality" or "Envy"....let's just be truthful.

Some fellows sees necessities like washing machine, blender, generator, microwave, car as waste of money, especially those who can't afford it...Even common shaving cream!, you'll see someone saying it's a waste of money to buy it, when you can just shave like that ....the poverty mentally is just much.

I can only call such thing a waste to someone who doesn't have enough but wants to belong by saving to buy them and remain in hunger......Just like some men who bought cars but can't fuel it dem just wan be car owner, wen hunger still de wire dem

My point is, if you have the money, don't be stingy to your life, don't suffer your life, make yourself comfortable and life easy for you by getting some of these necessities.

But, if you don't have enough, keep managing your life in peace till you hit your aiming target, than slamming the richer.

dafeyankee:
No trouble.

Exactly why we dashed you to a white man.

Why don't you come control an African man? Even those that feed their husbands like Mercy Johnson, Tiwa Savage and Omotola dare not say it publicly that they "Garri" their husbands.

Type what you know, Mr man!

The only time to know the character of a true friend is when he/she has made it.

Both of you achieved what you achieved simply because you both were hardworking and determined.

Be lazy and stay at home without hustling to confirm if you will achieved those things because of your partner or because of your determination.