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raumdeuter:
We can see the Mourinho ones are not attacks, Its only the Conte ones that are attacks, Greatihex is this what you were referring to?

Maybe you can ask the site where I copied the history of their war of words that question, The dates are there for you to see.. Read that post again, Let me even refer back to your post, the post about telling conte not to celebrate, I stated that in my post also and asked you if that was an attack, notice I didn't include an answer for that question alone? I wanted you to answer that question yourself, but since you have decided to turn a blind eye to it, I will ask you again

Is Mourinho telling Conte not to over celebrate because it is humiliating for his team, an attack??

raumdeuter:
From these you posted, then tell us who started the attacks and what Conte did to provoke him

Mourinho: "You don't celebrate like that at 4-0, you can do it at 1-0, otherwise it's humiliating for us".. is this an attack??

Conte: "I've been a player too and I know how to behave." is this an attack? No




March 2017
Five months on and of the two managers chasing a league title in their first season, it was Conte whose team were riding highest.

Mourinho had an explanation for that.
Speaking about their absence from European competitions, he said: "The reality is that he's got in his hands a situation where they have time to work, time to rest, time to relax, time to disconnect, time to travel, time to have holidays, time to go to America and enjoy America for a couple of days. They have time for all of these things, so they are in a position of privilege, but I don't want to say that they don't deserve credit for it."

is this an attack No


March 2017
Another Stamford Bridge encounter, another spiky exchange between the two, who had to be separated after Marcos Alonso was fouled.
Fourth official Mike Jones intervenes as Mourinho clashes with
Conte
Ander Herrera was sent off for two yellow cards picked up in tackles made on Eden Hazard, and Blues boss Conte was livid with what he perceived to be a deliberate ploy against the Belgian: "A tactic to play and go to kick an opponent? It's not football for me," he said.

Is this an attack?? Yes, a direct one at that?




April 2017
Conte aimed another dig in the direction of Mourinho and Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola as his team closed on their title triumph.

"This season it's very important to understand that it's not always about who spends more money who wins," he said.
"This season isn't the only season both Manchester clubs have spent a lot of money. Look at the past. It's right for them to do this, to reinforce their teams, if they think this is the right way to win the title. (But) every single club decides their own strategy."

is this an attack?? Obviously


July 2017
Conte and Mourinho have come face to face several times in a short period of time
Chelsea entered the new campaign knowing the last time they tried to defend their title, under Mourinho, it ended in disastrous fashion as they finished 10th having axed the Portuguese in December when they were just one point above the relegation zone.
It was not lost on Conte, who said in quotes published on espn.co.uk: "We know the difficulty of the next season and for sure we want to avoid the Mourinho season with Chelsea. Two years ago the team ended the league in 10th place and we want to try to avoid this."

"the Mourinho season" is this an attack?? Yes

July 2017
When those comments were put to Mourinho at a press conference in Norway after his team had beaten Valerenga 3-0, he responded with a curious turn of phrase. "I could answer in many different ways," he said. "But I'm not going to lose my hair to speak about Antonio Conte." The Italian had a visibly receding hairline towards the end of his playing career but now boasts flowing locks.

is this an attack? Definitely, it is


Mourinho is not mad

raumdeuter:
It started after Mourinho warned Conte not to celebrate in the 4-0 Chelsea win

Later Mourinho called Chelsea defensive

What did Conte say to provoke Mourinho

The Italian's touchline antics appeared to irk the Portuguese as he said something in Conte's ear after the final whistle. Reports in the Italian media suggested Mourinho told Conte: "You don't celebrate like that at 4-0, you can do it at 1-0, otherwise it's humiliating for us".
Neither boss divulged what was said but Conte told Sky Italia: "I've been a player too and I know how to behave."




March 2017
Five months on and of the two managers chasing a league title in their first season, it was Conte whose team were riding highest.
Mourinho had an explanation for that.
Speaking about their absence from European competitions, he said: "The reality is that he's got in his hands a situation where they have time to work, time to rest, time to relax, time to disconnect, time to travel, time to have holidays, time to go to America and enjoy America for a couple of days. They have time for all of these things, so they are in a position of privilege, but I don't want to say that they don't deserve credit for it."




March 2017
Another Stamford Bridge encounter, another spiky exchange between the two, who had to be separated after Marcos Alonso was fouled.
Fourth official Mike Jones intervenes as Mourinho clashes with
Conte (Getty 2017)
Ander Herrera was sent off for two yellow cards picked up in tackles made on Eden Hazard, and Blues boss Conte was livid with what he perceived to be a deliberate ploy against the Belgian: "A tactic to play and go to kick an opponent? It's not football for me," he said.




April 2017
Conte aimed another dig in the direction of Mourinho and Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola as his team closed on their title triumph.
"This season it's very important to understand that it's not always about who spends more money who wins," he said.
"This season isn't the only season both Manchester clubs have spent a lot of money. Look at the past. It's right for them to do this, to reinforce their teams, if they think this is the right way to win the title. (But) every single club decides their own strategy."




July 2017
Conte and Mourinho have come face to face several times in a short period of time (Getty)
Chelsea entered the new campaign knowing the last time they tried to defend their title, under Mourinho, it ended in disastrous fashion as they finished 10th having axed the Portuguese in December when they were just one point above the relegation zone.
It was not lost on Conte, who said in quotes published on espn.co.uk: "We know the difficulty of the next season and for sure we want to avoid the Mourinho season with Chelsea. Two years ago the team ended the league in 10th place and we want to try to avoid this."



July 2017
When those comments were put to Mourinho at a press conference in Norway after his team had beaten Valerenga 3-0, he responded with a curious turn of phrase. "I could answer in many different ways," he said. "But I'm not going to lose my hair to speak about Antonio Conte." The Italian had a visibly receding hairline towards the end of his playing career but now boasts flowing locks.

afrodoc2:
He overreacts and seems to seek confrontation and he has made several childish if not classless statements in the past about other managers, players, teams.
He lacks self control when dealing with other managers and the plethora of ridiculous beefs he has gotten into can't be explained away by "he was provoked". He is not the only one that gets "provoked:, he just lacks self control and has a thin skin.
This was one of the major reasons Sir Bobby blocked his appointment in 2013 when Fergie was retiring.

You can't tell someone how to react to provocation just because it is a game, while Mourihno tends to Over react, it doesn't take away the fact that he was provoked and he reacted, this is why I said you should refer to my second or third post to Dayo, I am one who reacts harshly to a pinch and you are one who laughs over it, does that make me the evil one?

I modified my post and this is what I said

this is the scenario being painted. Other coaches, "Mourihno is a brilliant coach, a top top manager"

Mourihno, "They are all mad and silly"

if this is the case then I will tell you that Mourihno is Mad

afrodoc2:
Guy stop defending the indefensible. JM has been scornful and abusive towards other managers for years. If there is anything to defend Mourinho for it is definitely not his manners.

if you don't mind, refer to my second and third post to Dayo and get where I am coming from

this is how the scenario is being painted. Other coaches, "Mourihno is a brilliant coach, top top manager"

mourihno "they are all mad and silly

if this is the case then I will tell you that Mourihno is mad

weedtaker:
hazard has the said ability, but all the one-time pass stuff is not his style, pogba also has vission and has a better passing range than KDB, but KDB is all about the passing why pogba is more drimble less passing.

I also think the teams tactics can do a lot to a players style/abilty


for example pogba under conte did 20+ goals and assist in 3 seasons straight, meanwhile under mou man de struggle to hit dsame height.

We can't tell for sure if he has the ability because he doesn't do it often, There is no disputing Pogba's Vision because he does it more often than not, even though we know he loves his dribbles

raumdeuter:
January this year this was what Mourinho said about Conte
"Because I don't behave as a clown on the touchline, it means that I lost my passion," he said.
"I prefer to behave the way I am doing it, much more mature, better for my team and myself, I don't think you have to behave like a crazy guy on the touchline to have that passion."

So how did Conte provoke him to make that comment?

Guy their exchange of words did not start in January, or did it?

Greatihex:
if he does not do it, he will not be coming out almost every season in the top chance creators in Europe. He has topped it one time and came second the other time.

Lol, this will only end in another Hazard vs KDB debate, which I don't have the strength for right now, we will revisit this

raumdeuter:
How did Wenger, Conte Ranieri Benitez Guardiola, Villanova etc all provoke Mourinho

How come Conte Klopp Guardiola Zidane dont get provoked to insult other managers.

Jemi is a cute guy, but not as cute as Zac Efron, I react, "he is not even fine at all" and then it goes on


Raumdeuter is ugly, but not as ugly as nihilist, You react "I don't think he meant any harm"


how does that concern Jemi? Jemi feels insulted and reacted, You didn't.

Mourihno would be mad to call Benitez fat, or throw shade at Conte without any form of provocation, I recall clearly that Mourihno made a statement about Chelsea in relation to his time there and his departure and Conte felt he was throwing shades and started the whole Mourihno vs Conte war by attacking him directly and mourihno being the man he is reacted

raumdeuter:
Guardiola and the Wigan manager disagreed did any of them call the other names?

Its not every manager only that one is a Viewer and specialist in failure, One was poked in the eye, One was the recent insult back and frth with Conte, Called Ranieri a loser, Abused Benitez on his his weight and added his wife to it

going into a scuffle with another manager is now disagreement, I see.

is it that mourihno just loves insulting managers without any form of provocation? is it the same ranieri he put his initials on his coaching track suit?

Guy talk another thing

Greatihex:
the ability to see a situation to create a goal scoring chance or create a dangerous situation.


But, oga Ibime may have a different definition. Try ask am.

Lol, Alright.


By your definition, especially the first part of it, Do you think Hazard does that well

raumdeuter:
Unlike Mourinho, Guardiola is quite respectful of other coaches. Below is what he had to say about Conte

Guardiola believes the former Juventus boss' approach will have a lasting effect on the English game.

"What Antonio has done here in the Premier League, maybe the people don't realise," he added.

"He introduced another way to attack with five at the back, another system, a lot of teams, even Arsenal, had to do a lot of imitating to do that.

"Tactically he is a master, he did it amazingly with the national team with Italy and when he went to Turin. I think Conte is going to leave something to English football. I'm sure of that."

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/11273818/pep-guardiola-praises-antonio-conte-for-changing-english-football

I know some will say its because he is winning, when Mourinho was winning that was when he was calling people Viewer and specialist in failure

We saw how respectful he was towards Wigan's manager, you talk like mourihno insults every manager he is up against.. well done

Greatihex:
how will you understand when you think a player like hazard does not have vision. That he is blind.

I want to understand something, When you say vision, what do you mean?


this is not a comparison debate please, I just want to know your definition

Nihilist:
Pep did not 'spend to win' the league. Like i pointed out to you earlier, the vast majority of Pep's spending has been on backup players, and only 3 of his signings have consistently been in the first 11 this season.

I think it was pretty obvious to all that Pep needed players in certain positions. This is a fellow Manyoo fan like you, pointing out the obvious here:



Why is it deemed 'buying the league' if Pep was merely doing the needful?

stop trying to equate an egg to a garden egg, because they are both called egg. They are far from the same.

Pep was merely doing the needful, and mourihno was merely doing the needless because he bought a certain player for 89m and a close to 40year old player with 28 goals in his first season

I see, what do i know sef

Leyqute:
Becks created the two goals. He took the two corners

I know, who will you blame, the scorer or the creator? he should be angry with Sheringham and Solskjaer not Bechkam, someone had to take the Corner

but the real culprits are Sheringham and Solskjaer na

"Can you please ask Mourihno to contact me again, I'll even play as Left back"

Nice, really nice.. I'm impressed

patrickmuf:
I am only considering how well both have fared this season.
Of course, Mou is more successful over their respective careers.

You know you can't have an all star game without Pogba in it, right? Whether in form or not, Pogba is like the LeBron of NBA

sleekdot:
Ok you dont want to hear what others are saying or discussing
You are not in the mood for saying your own
Ok then make we dey look ourselves then

Hahahahahahahaha.. Mumu, anyone una like make una do.. I Don go

sleekdot:
Why dont you bring up a football related topic

So that another argument will start? Nah, I'm good.. Guess I'm not just in the mood for Arguments Today, make una carry go, I don go for now

diggz:
You may not be enjoying this discourse but there is always something to learn...

At all...at all...he better pass say peeps dey insult dem sefs for here...

Better pass your incessant rant

I'm outta here Bitch

diggz:
Lol....leave dayo alone bros....guys can still learn one or two things from the discourse.

Learn wetin? say Beckham sabi pass and he no sabi pass, Abegi.. Make dem discuss something else

Lana1:
Lol. The man has come back with his wahala and agendas.

Dont even understand how he got eligible for an early parole sef...

Mynd needs to send him back for another 44 years

I miss the oga sha, na just him arguments dey tire me

Must everything be an argument with you people? And one way or the other, this Raumdeuter must be involved in all of them, a simple "who do you think is the best passer in the last 25 years" Don result to Assist, Opta, Average, Seasons, Statistics


Na wa oh

The same unproductive headless chicken Willian?

Eglobalma:
THIS ISNT WIZKID YOU DULL ANIMALS, YOU NIGERIANS ARE SO IGNORANT SOMETIMES I WINDER WHY I EVER TALK TO ANYBODY THATS FROM THIS COUNTRY

Lol, I thought I was the only one that noticed that wasn't wizkid

BushWickBill:
Bros you must talk

Hahahahahaha If I am going to talk, I am just going to say one thing


Chelsea, Long may your woes continue




down is where you belong and down is where you will remain, Pathetic club

BushWickBill:
dopejemi

Why silent?
We are awaiting your comments

Lol.. Lana1 has done a great job on them already, there is no use beating a dead horse

Who just saw that Black Panther's Wakanda themed Celebration from Lingard and Pogba


Sick!!!

Giroud and Morata as your strikers? honestly y'all need to get a better striker, how can you move from Drogba and Costa to Morata and Giroud