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Omoapena:
I currently do not have access to my phone, so, from everything you have been saying, does that mean the man retrieved the car cox of the inspection he introduced which you weren't aware of or any other reason you think might have caused that?

As I write this, I have not been able to speak directly with the man neither has he replied any of my Whatsapp messages since Thursday.

The soldier that took the key from me is the only one talking to me on Whatsapp and no reason has been given as why the car was retrieved.

Initially the soldier said, the man told him I defaulted in payment, when I showed him all the payment receipt I sent to the man including this week Monday payment, he was convinced I didn't default.

But, the man himself has refused to talk to me.

Omoapena:
From everything you have said, if it's true you haven't defaulted and you haven't breached any clause in the agreement, then your partner is just being greedy and just want to retrieve the car.


Was the car Tokunbo?

Bro, I didn't default. If I was owing the man, there's no way I will drive the car from mainland to Obalende for inspection knowing fully well that it will be retrieved.

I went there for the inspection because I was not on any default, even though no were in the agreement inspection is mentioned.

For a year I have been on this deal, I have never taken the car to anyone for inspection.

I was tricked to bring the car for inspection and the key was seized from me.

Car was not tokunbo, I have spent a lot to put it in very sound condition.

Even this week Wednesday, I spent over 100k to carry out a repair on the engine.

Then, the next day been Thursday I took the car for inspection and the key was seized.

I think I sent you pictures on Whatsapp.

lexylexy:
You can also use the Office of the public defender, they can be of help. You can Google their location around stadium.

Thank you very much.

dapotemi:
You should wait and hear from the other side,if hopefully we get to see that.
From the story, this guy has done NOTHING!
But I am saying to you, no partner would withdraw car from his driver without any reason.
Recently, I learnt in a hard way never to make conclusion or even have an opinion on one sided story.

Please, there's no second side to this story. Assuming nairaland allows audio. I would have forwarded the voice note sent to me by the soldier to bring the car for inspection.

And he specifically told me the man just introduced inspection to be done every 2 months. Meanwhile, there's nothing of such on the agreement.

If I was on any payment default, I should have have been scared of driving the car down from mainland to Obalende for inspection. But because I know, I was not owing in anyway. That's why I drove the car there to honour the invitation which turned out to be a ploy to retrieve car.

The agreement clearly states that, if I default for 3 consecutive weeks that when the agreement can be terminated.

I have uploaded a copy of the agreement here and also the last payment receipt sent through Whatsapp on Monday.

As I write this, the man have not said anything or given any reason for seizure of the car. He just kept mute.

He don't pick calls or response to Whatsapp messages.

Find attached below.

Kingbrighto:
I will advice u use court instead of DPO , get a lawyer to file a civil suit against him and u both of explain urself to a judge , the court can enforce action more than the police

I'm on my way to see a lawyer now.

Djdamian:
And to think some people called me evil and wicked, not realizing that some owners can truly embody wickedness.

Sorry about what you’re going through, @Doris4ever. Unfortunately, some of these owners or partners can go out of their way to make sure you never get to complete your HP deal. Please follow Pearl’s advice and keep praying, God will see you through..

Thanks

SHOOPSYN:
Sorry I couldn't go through the agreement you uploaded, but if the agreement doesn't state that you must notify him before you do any major work like the engine work you did, then you have more ground to go with Pearl advise.

Nothing like that on the agreement. I have been doing repairs on the car and there's no where is stated I should inform him about any repairs.

Even himself don't want to hear about any repairs. What he wants is his money every Monday and that's what I have been doing.

Pearl1910:
It is well, I understand.
The last place a Soldier will want to misbehave is inside the barracks. They are under serious disciplinary protocols. So he would have definitely had a lot of explaining to do if u went to the right authority to find out why ur car is withheld from u.

I never thought of this at all.

Pearl1910:
Why did u give him d keys??
U dey fear soldier?
Car that u have paid half of the money.
U don't need to be reminded that u bought the car in installment payments so it is ur car as long as u have not defaulted. Next time don't drop the keys to ur car except u have committed a crime and d car is impounded.

The soldier actually tricked me. He pretended to want to run checks on the car then make video and sent to the man.

Also, it was inside barracks. I didn't want to create a scene. That's why I calm down.

Pearl1910:
What's his reason for seizing the key from u?

I was told to bring the car for inspection and when I got there. The soldier said the man ask him to collect the car keys, no reason was given.

I called the man several times, no answer. I send him a voice note, till this minute he has not responded.

So I have not heard from him to know the reason.

Pearl1910:
You really don't need to have any cordial relationship with your Partner. Just adhere to d terms of the contract. It's business first.

No cordial relationship at all.

Is just receipt of payment every Monday and nothing else.

I don't report vehicle repairs or anything of such to him, because is a HP and I have to take car of all that.

Glithronix:
Abeg no vex, what kind of relationship is between you and your partner?
I mean, in the sense of rapport...
Cos the contract between you two should be a friendly one that communication should flow btw you guys nahh.
If there's good rapport, you should be able to know why he's treating you that way.
The signed agreement definitely still stands, but let's leave that aside - aren't you two in good terms?
Cos it looks like you both are doing a strict transaction that's meant to be flexible.
Abi why HP go now turn to war ground like this?
No vex, you be man or woman?

I'm a full fledged man, don't mind my nairaland username.

The thing is initially from the onset of the deal, the man has a Lady P.A that coordinate things for him and relate with drivers.

The man has over 20 cars on the road as I was told.

But I don't know what really happened, the Lady P.A left and stopped working with him and that's how the man started dealing with me directly.

So there's no rapport between us, the only time I message him or he messaged me is Monday for payment receipts. Nothing else.

Pearl1910:
Go to Police station and see DPO. Report the case. They will invite him to come and explain. If he doesn't go, they will follow u to the man's place.
There is no case here, just print out all ur payment receipts and keep for evidence.

Okay,
Thanks for your suggestion.

This is the WhatsApp receipts I sent to him showing this week Monday and upper Monday. I don't owe him a dime as I write this.

Here is the agreement document we signed.

Pearl1910:
Do u have a signed agreement with him?
And u aren't owing him.
Which one is u are told? Is his name not written in the agreement?
If he leaves in the baracks, carry ur agreement and visit the Provost master or Military Police and make ur case.
If he isn't in d military go to d nearest police station and ask to see the DPO. Explain urself, they will take it up from there.

If u have defaulted, and ur contract states that he can retrieve the car when u are in default (without conditions or allowance) then u can only pray and look for people to beg him for u.

Your signed Agreement is ur bible in this matter, everything starts and ends with that piece of document.
From ur story it seems like u know u have defaulted and u are at his mercy. cos if u aren't owing him and u have a signed agreement, then he can't collect the car from u even if he wanted to. Worse case he will refund u ur money .

I have a signed agreement.
I'm not owing him any dime. The last payment was done Monday night pass 11pm.
I can provide receipts for everything I said here.

The agreement carries his company name and the car papers bear Chief Barrister, I don't want to mention his name here for privacy purposes.

The reason I said I was told is because, when he retrieve the car in May due to delayed payment, he uses a soldier and the tracker guy to retrieve the car.

But after that incident, I have never defaulted again and he has been getting his money every Monday.

The agreement states that if I default in 3 consecutive weeks, he can retrieve the car.

And I have never defaulted for a full week in the past one year I have been on the deal.

I will upload the agreement now.

Good evening Gentlemen, Ladies, investors, partners and all Uber drivers.

Please, I have a very serious challenge with my Oga (partner), this my Oga seems to be a military man, though I don't know his rank and I have never seen him on any uniform. But I was told he's a military man. And he uses soldier to retrieve the car or to relate to me. I have been on this HP deal since last year August.

I will narrate the problem as it happened.

The total package for this deal is N8,000,000 and the agreement stated I must pay N80,000 every Monday.

Now, on the agreement. The time for payment is not specified like maybe Monday morning, afternoon or evening.

So since last year August I have been on this deal till mid May when the car was tracked, shutdown and retrieved.

After pleading and begging, I was made to pay a week upfront before I was given back the car. The car was impounded for a week without me working and I still paid for that week.

Ever since that incident, I have ensured that the Monday payment get to my partner on or before 11pm or at worst pass 11pm.

But it has never exceeded Monday. I have all receipts.

On Tuesday evening around pass 4pm. I was called to bring the car for inspection the following day yesterday.

This inspection is not stated or mentioned anywhere in the agreement and I have never been called for inspection since last year August I collected the car, they never call me for any inspection until this week.

But I could not go there because I had to do an emergency repair on the engine where I spent over 100k.

So today been Thursday I took the car for inspection and the key was seized from me.

I'm not owing the man and I have spent lots of borrowed money on the car, the money I borrowed to fix the car I have not paid back.

What can you guys advice me to do in this situation.

Why is the man bent on retrieving the car despite the fact that I don't owe him.

How can I go about this.

I really need expert advice.

Tinubuadvocate:
For a president to be roaming around security must be 100% he is a number one citizen it's what security apparatus tell him he will act on. Even the Benue he managed to go is very risk for him consider the insecurity in the state.

So you mean the president is scared of visiting some part of Benue despite the fact he's the commander of the army forces. He has the entire Police apparatus under him, the Air Force is there and the entire army is there for him.

He has all the DSS apparatus under his control.

Give me another lamba

helinues:
Papal knight yet his son is acclaimed to be a Gaybriel.

Hmmm

His son is old enough to answer for himself.

Beside you said "acclaimed" meaning even yourself aren't sure of what you are saying.

GeneralPula:
Abi..

The way dem bounce Obi for Vatican really pained them..

Peter Obi is a full fledged Papal Knight in Catholic Church.

Google it to see the privileges attached as a Catholic. I can help educate you though, if you want

I enter VIO wahala today. Never knew my Lasdri has expired.

VIO office first gate bus stop after mile 2.

My car has been seized until I renew my Lasdri. Presently at oshodi to renew.

Omoapena:
who have idea of what could be wrong with my camry. Drove it to Edo on Tuesday and have no issue on the way, but on my way back today, the temperature started rising and I parked to let it cool down but what I observed is, when I'm on speed (100km/h upwards), the temperature rises, & when I slow down, the temperature reduces. And I noticed one of the radiator fan wasn't blowing very well but it's working while the other blows very well.

could it be the fan that's causing the temperature to rise?

From experience, the fan is the culprit. That second fan is not supplying enough air to cool the engine effectively.

zoedicus:
Good morning guys

Please is it advisable to take Toyota Highlander 2008 for this hustle?

I'm being offered the highlander for rental and I'm to start by January.

How much will you be paying weekly and what about maintenance.

It can't work.

XGhost:
Saw a video today (don't know how accurate she is or her source o) that said around 90% of of Nigerians earn less than 150k monthly. The remaining are spread across 5 other income brackets.

It should be correct. Any salary below 500k in this T-pain economy is management.
People earning above 1M, 2M, 3M are even complaining not to talk of people earning below 500K.

My immediate younger brother is a federal government employee. He has stopped driving his car to work due to high cost of maintenance and fuel.

So is not about office work or not.

A lot of people doing business are doing far better than salary earners.

I have some friends doing various businesses at Alaba, Trade fair and other markets. They are balling well.

Salary work is good, if you happen to be at the high earner range 500k upwards to say the least.

But someone earning 50k, 100k, 150k or 200k will come here to talk down on ehailing drivers 😂

CheerfulGiver:
An office person earning 200k monthly is better than a driver earning 200k weekly?

You're willing to sacrifice your integrity to say that a yearly gross income of 1.2m of an office person is way better than a yearly net income of a bolt driver at 9.6m just because you want to minimize the hustle? Because the driver has no discipline, according to you.

Makes no sense, but what do I know?

I'll rather eat 200k suya monthly and still have 600k left, than be any sort of slave that leaves home before 5am and gets home past 10pm because of 200k. God forbid.

Make una enjoy the office work.

When I use to do office work.
Once alarm ring by 4am, I must wake up to prepare for work. Latest by 4:50am, I'm already walking down my street to the bus stop to join staff bus. If I mistakenly wake up late, I have to call in sick or jump public bus and get to work past 10am due to traffic.

When people keep shouting office work, this and that. They feel some of us driving have not done anything else before ehailing 😂

Personally, I don't like working for someone. I like a kind of work I will do, that when I put in all my efforts, I can determine how much I make daily instead of waiting for Monthly Salary.

I'm business oriented, office work is not my calling. That's why I had to resign from my former work place.

Atk1nson:
I get you point, everyone is impacted by the circumstance of the economy but an office person probably can respond better to factors that threatens his income in a more steady manner or long term plan. That is why most banks will rather loan funds to an employee than a small business owner.

See examples of control -

- an office person can has a base pay he can use to plan long term. If you are earning 100k a month, all things being equal, you are able to better project than someone who could earn 200K one month and 20K the next month because his car is faulty of lastma seized the car.

When the petrol price goes up, an office person can actively target hybrid or remote roles to cut costs. They can move closer to their place of work. As an ehailing driver, petrol price goes up and undercuts your profits, you are more constraint and can only respond in a limited manner. You are dependent on the ehailing platform to raise prices. You may try to do offline or some other things to push prices higher, but that could cost you your place in that platform which makes it risky.

cheerful being on rental does not add up. Except the leasor is operating at a loss, cheerful's profit is being undercut by the leasor. Not forgetting the leasor likely has restrictive covenants that limits the free use of the car to pursue his aims.

It's like tinubu claiming to save trillions from oil & FX subsidy removal and yet going on a borrowing spree in spite of high oil prices. It doesn't add up.

Look, personally I have been an office person for several years. I have also been an employer of labor for years.

Now, talking about an office person. There are categories of salary. For an office person earning 300k downwards, how do you want to measure that individual with someone making 50k daily after all expenses.

Most office people survive on loans, using their salary to service one loan or the other. I have been there and still have several colleagues who are still office workers.

Infact I have a close friend who cannot do anything else aside office work.

Before the next salary, he's broke to zero.

I also know some office people balling and living large as well - this category earn above 1M and above monthly.

See this screenshot below, this is one of my colleagues. We are working in same company and department before I resigned in 2019.

This is not to mock him, but I use it to buttress my point. Been an office person doesn't guarantee that you are financially capable and okay.

For this hustle, experience is the best teacher.
The number one determinant of how much you make is your work tool. If you drive 0.9L, 1.2L, 1.4 e.t.c, you will make more profit compare to someone driving 1.8, 2.0 or 2.4L like me.

Another factor is your determination and rugedity to do the work. Can you drive for minimum of 14hrs - 15hrs.

You may take breaks in-between the hours o.

But do you have the energy to push yourself.

The work is not for a lazy driver, you have to put in the driving time to make good money.

Lastly, strategy is everything. As the work implys, learn the latest update and strategy from the gurus.

The telegram group have been very helpful to me to know how to adjust each time despite the high fuel cost and high cost of vehicle part.

So if you have not driven before, you won't understand what the dashboard been posted means.

Those dashboard to us as drivers are motivating and giving us the push we need to work harder.

More energy to all ehailing drivers out there doing good for themselves.

E no easy o

Djdamian:
Still upset about the 100k, huh?

Alright.

Dear Pilots,

Every month, I try to give back to society through some form of CSR. For this month, I’ve decided to focus on drivers, especially during these tough times. I’ll be giving away 100k in total.

Five drivers will receive 20k each. To participate, simply send your account details to my WhatsApp number, 09038128067, along with your Nairaland moniker so I can confirm you’re from Nairaland.

The first five people to respond will get it.

Thank you, and may God bless us all.

Thanks @djdamian for this wonderful gesture and giving back to the society.

Though I missed out as usual.

But I still appreciate the fact that you have a good heart to give.

Cheers 🥂

What's the back and forth all about between omoapena and his partner DJdamian. Please you guys should chill and allow the past remain in the past.
I believe in keeping relationships, is a small world o.

ShinjaWWest:
Lies ..it will make alot of Christians not to vote for him next time.

He should better apologize to Christians or say goodbye to his political career

How many Christians have complained about what he said. I see only APC online warriors complaining

Shimmaa:
Good evening bosses, pls i intend to go into uber just to keep me busy pending when I will sort myself out, I'm not so familiar with Lagos route and what are the likely challenges to face on Lagos road....

Do you already have a car? If yes, you can start with Google map. Make sure all your vehicle papers are complete.
No matter how you try, you will definitely pay your dues to LASTMA, VIO, Road Safely, police, CBD and possibly touts.
Good luck.

Watcharena:
Very clean infinix hot 8 with receipt at give away price , everything working fine like new no even one single crack or scratch
Specifications are shown on the picture


Price 38k fixed


Location ojuelegba Lagos

Number zero seven zero 17607723

Is this still available