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Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Instant Cash For Copy And Paste Worker by Doris4ever(m): 6:04pm On Jul 11
Interested
Politics / Re: FG Begins Expansion Of Ota-Idiroko Highway by Doris4ever(m): 5:16pm On Jul 04
FreeStuffsNG:
Lagos-Sango Ota-Abeokuta expressway.
If you can drive through this road then you and your car are legends. It has been abandoned since the tenure of PDP's Pa Obasanjo. President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu will fix it.

The road been expanded is Idiroko road leading to Canaanland winners chapel. It's a different road entirely from Lagos Abeokuta Expressway.
Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 6:59pm On Jun 26
Nlanalyst:

Better still, can you advise me to buy the car with the steering ish?
No vex for the plenty questions.

Why has the owner refused to fix the steering before selling?
Also, how sure are you that the car don't have any other underlying problem.

Unless you are ready to buy , then spend some money to fix up any repair that comes up.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 5:50pm On Jun 16
Barbiturate:
Triple celebration:

Today is my birthday πŸ˜ŠπŸΎπŸ›πŸ”

Today is father's day

Today is sallah πŸπŸΎπŸ›

Thank God for the gift of life




Happy birthday bro. More long life and prosperity in good health.
Family / Re: Happy Children's Day!! by Doris4ever(m): 10:01am On May 27
I'm here
Travel / Re: Essex To Cumbria Road Trip (Photos) by Doris4ever(m): 4:50pm On May 25
Niok:
I'm about to make a Road Trip from amukoko to ijora
Make una wish me well too grin

Take pictures and show the world. Let the world see how beautiful your city is grin

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 4:23pm On May 25
Johnchrix:
Omo the poverty in kogi pass my village own. My eye don see something. A theif just broke into my room and stole garri & took fishes out of my pot of soup.

You be big man o.
You even get fish inside pot of soup grin

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 4:19pm On May 25
Morningstarrr:
Good morning bosses and chairmen. I'm using a Peugeot 307. I discovered that the car doesn't hold power in some areas like gnition and central lock. That is, when the vehicle is parked for like 5mims, power will no longer be available on dashboard and doors. But there'll be power in other parts of the vehicle. What could be the cause

Is electrical issue.
Let a good rewire check the fuse bus lines
Then check for any burned wire(s)
I had similar experience with a Corolla. Sometimes if I park, the dashboard ligh won't come up again until I open fuse box and do some touching.
There was a day I drove to a mechanic, parked. Car refused to start. Had to call my rewire, thank God I was still within my area. The rewire came, traced everything and discovered burnt wires underneath the fuse box. He carefully fix everything and car started immediately.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 2:19pm On May 24
northbird:


Very true, you are right on the aspects of challenges....But an investment of 3.5 million that will yield returns of unstable 30k weekly .. is not something I will subscribe to.

Just as many investors has proposed.
Rental may no longer be visible due to the economic situation of the country.
But HP (Higher Purchase) is still a better option.
Though ehailing is not the only business to invest in.
Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 2:00pm On May 24
northbird:


It's easier said than done. Right now , 2024. To meet market realities. Weekly rentals should be around 50-60k.
How many drivers can gladly sign this . ? Most of them want something way lower. So the investor still bears the brunt.

As I said earlier.
I don't think ehailing is the only business that that yield returns to an investor. There are several businesses such as:
Fish Farming
Piggery
Crop Farming
Poultry
Animal husbandry
Korope
LT Buses
Sienna for inter state
and several other businesses that people are already doing and they are been successful in it.
Though some people go into any of this businesses and still fail.
If an investor is tired of ehailing, he can deinvest and venture into any other business of choice.
Those who still think ehailing is profitable and they can cope with the challenges should be encouraged to do the business.
What I know is that all the above businesses I listed have one challenge or the other.
Some people have managed those businesses for years and still in business while some have failed and closed down.

That's business for you. Though no one is praying to fail. But the reality is that people do fail in some businesses.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 12:40pm On May 24
konkoabove:

Are banks also at the lower end? Yes or No.

Back to ehailng, The mere fact that cars are scarce doesn't equate flexing of muscle from owner partners. For goodness sake, both of you are business partners and not employee/employer situation, so respect agreement. If there is need for upward review, then adequately communicate and sign the new deal. Putting eye in your driver partners' earnings is a NO for me.

Owner partners can liquidate asset and move to something else. So drivers too can't diversify and shift from ehailng? Is their destiny tied to driving? I think drivers need to wake up and smell the coffee.

I said something similar some days ago that if drivers don't get cars to drive. They won't die. Before ehailing became a thing, everyone was surviving.
If government decides to ban ehailing, won't everybody move to something else?
When owners make agreement of 40k weekly and maybe share repair cost.
Owner will still be putting eyes on drivers income to see if driver is making more than him grin

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 11:34am On May 24
northbird:



Banks scramble over themselves to loan Dangote money, because he is a sure banker..

Back to ehailing, it's the driver's loss, if you need 20 drivers right now, you can get them in 2 days , what about getting 20 cars?, that will surely take more than 2 days. ... drivers are always available, its a hard truth to bear,the aces are always with the investor.

The investor will simply liquidate assets and move into a new line of business.

Ask the White korope lekki to cms ,how much they deliver weekly to their owners. I don't want to come to the Yellow LT on the mainland ( oshodi - Sango)

If you are on watsap groups, if you see the way drivers are looking for cars to drive. There are very few cars unlike previous years...

It must be a win-win situation for all stakeholders , most drivers don't see this big picture.. The app companies are learning this truth . Esp Bolt. They made reforms because Bolt realised, if you keep losing drivers, they are losing revenue , it's just a matter of time.





If you are an investor and decide to venture into korope or LT transport business because you are looking at it from an outsider view.

The driver's operating korope or LT are they better than ehailing drivers.
They don't scratch the vehicles or default on payment?

Driver's are always available, that's a fact.
Post a vacant position in any field aside driving and see if you won't get hundreds of applications.

The Nigerian population has the manpower for any business an investor decides to venture into.

My point is every business has it own challenges. Just choose the one you can cope with, be it korope, LT, ehailing. Choose one and face the challenges.

No business without challenges. That's a known fact

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 10:12am On May 24
Omoapena:
I can now finally breathe in peace and know there's no 1 anywhere that can threaten me or give me sleepless night.

You need it but you're asking me to pay for it, you can see how foolish you are.

A very stupid and greedy fellow...


Baba, who you dey follow fight this early morning wink

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 6:42am On May 24
All businesses face similar problems like the ehailing. Many years ago, I built a cybercafe using two desktop computers starting from a shop. As the business grew, I started to employ workers.
The cybercafe became successful and grew to 20 computers. I decided to expand. I moved into a three bedroom apartment. Set it up with better computers and standby power supply. The cybercafe runs 24hrs. We work day and night.
I started a computer training center and a repair section to take care of any breakdown computer.
Then along the line, I got a job that took my time completely away from the cybercafe.
I was relying on my workers to deliver daily income.
Most time I have to pay ISP subscription from my personal purse. At some point to pay salary became an issue.
I had to close down the cybercafe and sell off all computers, printers, photocopy machine, scanners, generators.
The reason why I shared this experience is that all businesses have challenges they face one way or the other.
It takes a lots of rigorous painstakingly effort to be successful in any business.
Your workers can frustrate you out of any business.
Ehailing is one out of many businesses that employ the services of a driver, mechanic etc.
Do people still succeed in business, YES.
Do people still fail in business, YES.
That's the irony of life.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 12:41pm On May 23
Djdamian:



i suspected you were going to reply this message.. grin grin grin

If the owner alone handled all the expenses, let's be honest: do you think this approach is sustainable in the long run, and that drivers wouldn't take advantage of the situation? In my opinion, I don't think so.

No, I'm not advocating for the owner to handle repairs 100%. That's not even possible in today's economic reality.

What am happy about is the owner showing up and making sure everything is back to normal for the driver.

Some owners will not even bother to ask the driver how he resolved the issue talk less of showing up in person.

They would have used calls and threatening to frustrate the driver's life because Kickstarter stopped working grin

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 11:47am On May 23
Omoapena:



Yeah, some efforts are also required by the owners partner, this makes me remember my first ever partner, Mr ndubuisi.

We still communicate till date.

The only issue i had with him was, I just started driving in 2019 and it was his car I used to perfect my driving skills which means, the car body see shege for my hand.

Then, if I want to come out from a street with just one side of gate opened, I will scratch the car body grin,

Mehn, that particular car see alot of dent in my hand, my partner do tell me that I'm consistent when it comes to delivery but the only issue is, I dey too scratch hin car. But that man, God bless him wherever he is, he will come down to wherever I am if the car develops any fault, he will make sure they fix it back to normal in his presence.

There was a day the car broke down at ikotun, it had kick issue and this man came down with a tokunbo kick for me and fix it, he won't still let me take him home, he just said I should go ahead to work so he doesn't disturb me, that's a partner that is looking out for the safety of his car and the driver...

Imagine if all partners are like this man.
Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 11:43am On May 23
Omoapena:



You're a deeply mistrusting person, in whatever you want to do, pls try to keep trust at first until the person you're trusting breaks the trust...

And the moment you see any red flags, quickly do away with that person but if you believed there's no trust in any business, you won't be able to do any business....


I believe you trust yourself to some extent, if you can trust yourself and you want someone to entrust their business in your care, why can't you do same to others? Trust is something that is being built, you go in first with it and leave the moment the trust isn't there anymore.


We will all need each other, you can't do it alone, you give service and require service from others




Very aptly presented, thanks.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 10:46am On May 22
Pearl1910:


Hmmm... That argument is neither here nor there. What I know is nobody will rent ur property if it will not be profitable for them. Decorators rent equipment for maybe 100k and use it to make 500k, u rent ladder of 1k and use it to make 50k. So car owner cannot earn more than driver as long as driver does all the work. No driver will make 100k a week and give owner a bigger share just because its owners car, that relationship will not last. U as d owner can tell driver "we will share repairs 50/50" because what u are giving me is far lower than what u are making. Afteral if the car isn't sound u will not have the opportunity to make that much.
The business has changed but investors fail to adapt to d new changes reason why they are losing out.

When Uber came to Nigeria in around 2014 car requirement was high; 2008 and above. (Imagine if today the minimum car that can enter Uber/Bolt is a 2015/2018 car) The deal was 20-25% of Net profit goes to driver after he has met his target then u pay extra bonus of 5k to him if he surpasses his target by 20k or thereabout. The rest is for the partner. Target was between 80k to 120k depending on Partner. Remember Net is after commission, fuel, airtime, parking and tolls etc. As a partner u can see all the earnings each of your driver is making and Uber paid weekly payments to the Partner at the time. So no cheating.
Later Uber introduced cash payments, so driver will collect some cash and partner will balance him at the end of the week or driver will remit excess to Partner as the case may be. Partner did all the repairs because he was virtually paying driver for working just like a regular company driver.
As the years passed drivers began to work offline and make extra for themselves while Partner will only depend on online trips which were getting lower and lower. Because drivers where shortchanging Partners, then came a flat rate of 45k - 50k known as rentals. Partners were like... u know what, do what u like with the car but deliver my 50k to me at the end of the week. Because that was the average Partners share when partners where getting 75% of Net. Then Bolt came into d picture and crashed the prices, and rentals came down to as low as 20k-25k. Although it was still good because the car requirement also dropped and u could put a car on the platform with less than 1m.
Today the story is totally different; now, drivers must contribute to the repairs of the car and delivery must be commensurate to d value of the car. It is not advisable to put a toks corolla on the platform again because of the cost. If u have it already, u can continue with a higher rental fee or if your driver is a careful and reasonable person, if not sell it and buy two other small cars. Corolla is expensive to maintain now, only hub is 50k. And it doesn't last.
So as a partner u have to devise reasonable means to stay afloat. Keep adapting and keep innovating, if not u will lose out.

Well said. I learnt a lot from this writeup. You really summarize the ehailing journey and how we got to this stage of the business. Thank you.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 10:36am On May 22
Djdamian:


Pearl isn't just an investor; he is fully involved in the business. You can't expect someone deeply engaged in their daily work to devote 100% focus to an investment they consider passive income. It's not that easy.

Sometimes, a driver may dislike the owner constantly monitoring the vehicle, asking for updates, or limiting its use. In such cases, the driver might see the owner as overly intrusive, stalker or wicked.

On the other hand, if the owner gives the driver full autonomy, trusting them to run the business smoothly, the driver often takes advantage of the situation.

The reality is that a driver on rentals will never care for the vehicle as the owner would want. This isn't entirely the driver's fault. Knowing the vehicle isn't theirs often leads to a lack of care and a more casual attitude. Drivers tend to exploit the situation, make money from the current rental deal, and then move on to the next opportunity.

The best business model for this e-hailing business is hire purchase.

HP is the best in this situation, I agree with you. It will be win win for both parties.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 6:57am On May 22
Pearl1910:


Negligence on the part of partner is not reason to conclude the business is no longer profitable for rentals.
Car owner must interview drivers properly and do due diligence before hiring.
After hiring, continuous monitoring, inspection and tracking of your investment is very important. Anybody that puts his investment worth millions in the hands of a third-party without following up for its progress shouldn't blame the system or the govt but himself if something goes wrong
So if any partner waits for 6 months to discover his driver has damaged his car to d tune of half a million then he isn't wise. He should blame himself and no one else.
I don't bring sentiments into my business, I hire hard and fire easily. Immediately ur down payment is depleted and u arent ready to top up I am collecting my car. Before u damage the car beyond what ur down payment cannot cover.

I like reading from you as an experienced investor. The fact that owner could not monitor his car and a driver recklessly damaged it. Should not translate to a general norm that all drivers are reckless.
Same business people are failing to make profit, there are others making huge profits from that same business.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 5:00pm On May 21
jpworld:


Is not about been bad, if you are asking me to release my car for 25k and you are doing ajo of 100k weekly, you are only exploting the situation, because I know nothing about the business.

That APC Emilokan guy, called me then, canvassing me to release my car to him for 40k, that I should be rest assured, my car is in good hands, bla bla bla, I told him to visit LASG car, that I am not interested. If I don't know much about the business, I will gladly release the car for 40k, but at the end of 6months when wear and tear comes then you will know it was a stupid decision.

So what's the solution to the above problem.
How much are you proposing for car owners, there should be a standard in this ehailing business.
Like someone mentioned korope, they have union and all drivers know how much is normal weekly delivery.
Everyone is happy.
Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 4:41pm On May 21
Kaymaxi2222:
but you can verify the others you commented on right ....see eh no need to argue about that na Wetin I myself know say driver dey do you go see them for Chevron driver and mobile filling station at night then even get club for there for drivers

Yes. You are right. I can't speak for other drivers.
My method of working may be different from how other drivers work.
I can't even drive for 24hrs in a day. Talk less of driving 24/7 in a week.
I hardly drive for 7 days straight. I plan my movement. Once I meet my target am home resting. That's how I work, so can't speak for other drivers.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 4:37pm On May 21
Kaymaxi2222:
best thing is pick a car use it for 1 week if it is good then take it on HP case close if you now like abuse it the owners money must complete that's the koko

This is a good solution to the rental problem.
From my experience HP is still the best for both owner and driver.
Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 4:28pm On May 21
Kaymaxi2222:
and you refuse to comment on how the driver use the car to the extent that he no longer go home and was hustling 24/7 just to raise money for himself......100k ajo while he was paying 25k to tje owner haba

Well, I deliberately didn't comment on that because no way I can verify your claim about that. It may be true as you said it or may not.

But I like talking about things I can verify and based on my personal experience in this ehailing business.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 4:23pm On May 21
jpworld:


I never say driver will die, I am only suggesting the right people that will sow a seed in ur life,


You painted a generalized scenario of bad drivers. But I tell you not all drivers are bad as been portrayed here.

On this thread we have seen drivers go through HP deal and completed payment.

Same with rental, there are drivers paying weekly without default and maintaining the car.

So it all depends on individual.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 4:20pm On May 21
Kaymaxi2222:
but what the owner made is not enough to compensate for the depreciation the driver inflicted on the car ..... that's a big L for the owner

Was the 25k agreement okay with the owner at the start of the deal, the answer is yes.
The owner failed to put measure to monitor the car and ensure proper maintenance.

This scenario goes both ways and not all drivers or owners have same experience.

I read a post made by pearl. He has been in the business for over 10years and knows how to manage both cars and drivers.
Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 4:09pm On May 21
jpworld:


Yes ooo.

Drivers should meet their uncles, village people to buy them car. Or go and do conductor with Korope or Danfoo.

Bro, what I know is. If a driver don't see car to drive. He won't die na. At least he has been living before ehailing came onboard.
Abi.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 4:07pm On May 21
jpworld:


That 25k week, is 100k a month. So in 6months, he collected 600k.

To paint that car to standard, it will cost 150k panel beta will collect at least 30k. Just for body 180k gone. So remaining 420, he might need to overhaul the legs, one side of shock absorber is 20k if you are now changing hub it will cost you one side 50k, the 4tires must be gone each tire is 10/12k. At the end of everything you are putting back close to 400 to 500k to put back the car in good shape.

If he damage the car way more than, your family and friends will come to your rescue.

Which year was the driver paying 25k weekly and you are using 2024 part price to do your calculations.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 3:59pm On May 21
jpworld:


In transport, drivers are more like vampire looking for owners blood to suck, when you catch them in their games, they play the victim card, the greedy rich car owner vs the humble poor driver game.

If Korope in lekki ajah axis delivers 70k weekly, why will uber driver that makes 30/35k in a day, ( between Fri/Sat/Sun/mon/ wants to deliver 40/50k. You better sell that corolla for 3.5/4millionand give ur self rest of mind.

I dey pity most office owners, they are just in it for side income.

If you are office owner and you need extra income, just on Sundays or Satuday you can make, 35/40k after fueling, expenses,why not forget going to church, and focus on ur survival, don't do any damn big boy amd allow one greedy driver to ruin your car, Toyota Corolla engine is almost 1million naira, so tell me how long you will collect that 40/50k to buy another engine, if the car engine gets damaged?


Owners should drive the cars themselves, cased closed. Everybody is happy.

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 3:35pm On May 21
Kaymaxi2222:
let me just tell you the Truth....this business only pays whoever is in control of the instrument used for this business......a friend of mine once got a brand new car for this rental business but because he is a office person he has little or no time to monitor the car .....the driver used the car for almost 6 months no issue until later issues started coming up then the driver keeps missing payment.. eventually sha na one of the drivers friend wey know the owner tell am say make him borrow himself brain that the guy is over using the car to the extent that the guy no dey come home again he literally lives in the car ....the guy was doing ajo of 100k weekly whereas he was paying the owner 25k then. At the end sha na the owner lose Cos na scrap him eventually sell the car as ....so let not deceive our self eh na driver this business pays for most

Thank God you said for 6 months no issues. Both owner and driver were happy because car was not giving issue for those 6 months.
That's my own argument.
Drivers that abuse cars depends on individual mentality.

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Politics / Re: Port Harcourt Refinery Begins Operation July by Doris4ever(m): 12:03pm On May 21
July 2030?

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Business / Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Doris4ever(m): 9:49am On May 21
northbird:
A seasoned driver should know whether a car is worthy of ehailing in 5 days. ( in 3 days sef)
If the car is not up to standard, drop it and cancel the contract.
If as a driver you continue to use the car, then you are also responsible for whatever blames the car owner /investor lays on you .

You are 100% right.
A driver may discover a car is problematic from the first week. He may think he can manage it depending on the circumstances he's in. Then before you know it, it will be from one problem to another.

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