CallmeLucy: Hello everyone, sorry to disturb you I know this is too long but just need to clarify something........... So I had a BTC transaction with WILLIAN10 and agreed on the rate and everything. Sent him the bitcoin and he paid. After a few hours, I realised that the rate I sold to him (dollar rate blockchain) isn't right as blockchain rate is probably messed up (Sent SS of blockchain current rates, Bitstamp, coinbase etc to him) so he can verify it. To cut the long story short, WILLIAN10 agreed that the blockchain rate we used was wrong (I bought at $1520 on bitstamp but on blockchain, it 'says' $1467). Other wallets rates were just around $1500 or thereabouts at the time of transaction.
My question now is, is Willian meant to pay for the offset difference as at when sent which would be about $50 or it's fine and the deal is done and Willian is right by saying he's not paying for the REAL CURRENT RATE WHEN THE BTC WAS SENT. I've attached the long chats of the discussion but had to delete the bits I think isn't important. I just want the proper decision to be made. Whatever you guys say is final.
Thanks for your time and Merry Christmas
CC Tabbazz, Nsonaso, LadyF, Justi4jesu, Willian10, Kaboninc, Dollarflow, Abuhazzan, Modath, Elot.
23/12/2017, 12:10:01: Messages to this chat and calls are now secured with end-to-end encryption. 23/12/2017, 12:10:01: +234 703 758 2962: Hi 23/12/2017, 12:10:08: +234 703 758 2962: I need all at 380 23/12/2017, 12:12:33: Femi: One second 23/12/2017, 12:14:54: Femi: $1500 left 23/12/2017, 12:15:08: Femi: You pay for what you receive?? 23/12/2017, 12:15:29: +234 703 758 2962: Yes 23/12/2017, 12:15:34: +234 703 758 2962: Blockchain rate right? 23/12/2017, 12:16:03: +234 703 758 2962: Or Paxful? 23/12/2017, 12:16:26: Femi: Bitstamp 23/12/2017, 12:17:06: Femi: Wallet 23/12/2017, 12:17:10: +234 703 758 2962: Send 23/12/2017, 12:17:14: Femi: Which rate do you use ? 23/12/2017, 12:17:19: Femi: Send wallet nw 23/12/2017, 12:17:34: +234 703 758 2962: 37mR2tMx7aVk9zwerRtXj7cqzUkjSskYbz 23/12/2017, 12:20:14: Femi: 2017-12-23-PHOTO-00000016.jpg <attached> 23/12/2017, 12:20:15: Femi: 2017-12-23-PHOTO-00000017.jpg <attached> 23/12/2017, 12:20:15: Femi: 2017-12-23-PHOTO-00000018.jpg <attached> 23/12/2017, 12:21:01: +234 703 758 2962: Nothing yet 23/12/2017, 12:27:21: +234 703 758 2962: $1467 23/12/2017, 12:28:59: Femi: Yes 23/12/2017, 12:29:09: Femi: Do ou have a DiamondBank pls 23/12/2017, 12:29:36: +234 703 758 2962: STANBIC fidelity 23/12/2017, 12:29:50: Femi: Use Stanbic pls 23/12/2017, 12:30:04: +234 703 758 2962: Bank details 23/12/2017, 12:30:09: Femi: DiamondBank Olufemi Adebayo 0067738644 Thanks 23/12/2017, 12:32:02: +234 703 758 2962: 2017-12-23-PHOTO-00000027.jpg <attached> 23/12/2017, 12:32:49: Femi: Thanks 23/12/2017, 16:19:20: Femi: Hello sir 23/12/2017, 16:19:28: +234 703 758 2962: Hi 23/12/2017, 16:19:50: Femi: Think there’s being a missed up somewhere using Blockchain rate 23/12/2017, 16:20:18: Femi: Gave the wrong rate 23/12/2017, 16:20:41: Femi: It was $1505.77 23/12/2017, 16:20:55: Femi: Not$1467 23/12/2017, 16:21:32: Femi:  23/12/2017, 16:21:56: +234 703 758 2962: It was $1467 then 23/12/2017, 16:22:03: +234 703 758 2962: I checked it 23/12/2017, 16:22:07: Femi: No 23/12/2017, 16:22:17: Femi: Blockchain rate was messed up 23/12/2017, 16:31:43: Femi: Look at the current difference nw 23/12/2017, 16:32:04: +234 703 758 2962: Tell me this is a joke � 23/12/2017, 16:32:25: +234 703 758 2962: How can u use the value now 23/12/2017, 16:32:34: Femi: 2017-12-23-PHOTO-00000064.jpg <attached> 23/12/2017, 16:32:48: Femi: These are the current rate 23/12/2017, 16:32:58: Femi: Compare it to Blockchain current rate 23/12/2017, 16:32:58: +234 703 758 2962: Bro, u can’t use the value now 23/12/2017, 16:33:31: Femi: I’m not using the current rate 23/12/2017, 16:33:47: Femi: Just saying the rate we used was wrong 23/12/2017, 16:34:46: Femi: You know I’m right 23/12/2017, 16:35:12: +234 703 758 2962: I’m confused with your explanation sincerely 23/12/2017, 16:35:35: +234 703 758 2962: What u sent here is not appropriate 23/12/2017, 16:35:39: +234 703 758 2962: Yes or no? 23/12/2017, 16:36:00: Femi: It’s appropriate sir 23/12/2017, 16:36:24: +234 703 758 2962: U sent a screenshot of the bitcoin leaving my wallet 23/12/2017, 16:37:08: Femi: That’s wrong 23/12/2017, 16:37:25: Femi: This is the one I’m talking about 23/12/2017, 16:38:09: Femi: The current rate now is $1444 while in Bitstamp Its $1504 23/12/2017, 16:39:12: Femi: That’s why people ain’t using it 23/12/2017, 16:40:05: Femi:  23/12/2017, 16:42:16: +234 703 758 2962:  23/12/2017, 16:42:31: +234 703 758 2962: The value ain’t same with this time 23/12/2017, 16:43:05: +234 703 758 2962: Chill 23/12/2017, 16:43:17: Femi: People are even complaining about it in the group 23/12/2017, 16:43:26: +234 703 758 2962: U are typing at the same time calling 23/12/2017, 16:45:15: Femi: Ok 23/12/2017, 16:45:55: Femi: Blockchain rate is bleeped up sir, I just proved it to you sir 23/12/2017, 16:47:08: +234 703 758 2962: Well 23/12/2017, 16:47:26: +234 703 758 2962: $1467 was what we saw n u agreed yes 23/12/2017, 16:47:44: Femi: So ? 23/12/2017, 16:48:11: +234 703 758 2962: How do you expect me to know the value of bitstamp then 23/12/2017, 16:48:35: Femi: So what are you saying 23/12/2017, 16:49:46: +234 703 758 2962: ? 23/12/2017, 16:49:50: Femi: Even Paxful rate 23/12/2017, 16:49:59: Femi: Not just Bitstamp 23/12/2017, 16:50:07: Femi: Coinbase 23/12/2017, 16:51:27: Femi: 2017-12-23-PHOTO-00000097.jpg <attached> 23/12/2017, 16:51:44: +234 703 758 2962: Eeeh 23/12/2017, 16:51:58: Femi: 2017-12-23-PHOTO-00000099.jpg <attached> 23/12/2017, 16:52:16: Femi: See the price difference 23/12/2017, 16:52:16: +234 703 758 2962: Bro 23/12/2017, 16:52:21: +234 703 758 2962: This is simple 23/12/2017, 16:53:07: +234 703 758 2962: What was the value when u sent? 23/12/2017, 16:53:14: +234 703 758 2962: On bitstamp 23/12/2017, 16:54:33: Femi: The value on on Blockchain was $1467 because it wasn’t updated 23/12/2017, 16:54:56: Femi: Blockchain value is wrong as we all know 23/12/2017, 16:55:20: Femi: How many screenshots do you want me to send to you? 23/12/2017, 16:55:49: +234 703 758 2962: What was the value of your bitcoin when u sent? 23/12/2017, 16:56:00: +234 703 758 2962: Of the bitcoin 23/12/2017, 16:56:12: Femi: On Blockchain or which wallet? 23/12/2017, 16:56:22: +234 703 758 2962: Bitstamp 23/12/2017, 16:57:02: Femi: 2017-12-23-PHOTO-00000119.jpg <attached> 23/12/2017, 16:57:47: Femi: 2017-12-23-PHOTO-00000120.jpg <attached> 23/12/2017, 16:58:43: +234 703 758 2962: $1519? 23/12/2017, 16:59:12: +234 703 758 2962: $52 difference 23/12/2017, 17:00:33: Femi: Not sure of the exact rate on Blockchain when sent, value when I bought was $1519 at 12:18 and sent to you at 12:23 23/12/2017, 17:00:52: Femi: That’s how exact I can be right now 23/12/2017, 17:02:59: +234 703 758 2962: That’s much 23/12/2017, 17:03:51: Femi: Just to be fair, you know I’m making sense 23/12/2017, 17:03:59: +234 703 758 2962: It’s $15320 on preev now 23/12/2017, 17:05:02: Femi: Yeah 23/12/2017, 17:05:15: +234 703 758 2962: As at the moment u sent 23/12/2017, 17:05:27: +234 703 758 2962: Who knows the rate? 23/12/2017, 17:07:45: Femi: I can find out 23/12/2017, 17:07:55: Femi: Which rate do you wanna use ? 23/12/2017, 17:12:21: Femi: Preev and Bitstamp are approximately the same rate 23/12/2017, 17:14:12: Femi: 2017-12-23-PHOTO-00000134.jpg <attached> 23/12/2017, 17:14:13: Femi: 2017-12-23-PHOTO-00000135.jpg <attached> 23/12/2017, 17:14:50: Femi: Took the screenshots at a fraction of milliseconds so it’s accurate 23/12/2017, 17:14:54: +234 703 758 2962: Blockchain is the only place to get the rate as at the time of transaction 23/12/2017, 17:16:08: Femi: But Blockchain is messed up Sir 23/12/2017, 17:16:32: +234 703 758 2962: But u agreed is 1467 earlier? 23/12/2017, 17:17:17: Femi: Cause I didn’t know about the errors 23/12/2017, 17:17:52: Femi: Just realised it doesn’t make sense then went back to it 23/12/2017, 17:17:53: +234 703 758 2962: If i did too, I won’t have bought it so high 23/12/2017, 17:18:24: Femi: I lost a lot since Thursday till now 23/12/2017, 17:18:38: Femi: So what are you saying now ? 23/12/2017, 17:18:49: +234 703 758 2962: Let’s just forget about complaint 23/12/2017, 17:18:59: +234 703 758 2962: I lost 1.35M today 23/12/2017, 17:19:07: Femi: You bought at 380 which was the current rate 23/12/2017, 17:19:15: Femi: Sorry for your loss 23/12/2017, 17:19:21: +234 703 758 2962: For you 23/12/2017, 17:24:50: Femi: Can you do the needful? 23/12/2017, 17:25:05: Femi: The money is sitting in your wallet sir 23/12/2017, 17:25:06: +234 703 758 2962: And that is? 23/12/2017, 17:25:46: Femi: Send the equivalent offset 23/12/2017, 17:26:17: +234 703 758 2962: Had it been bitcoin = $10,000 now 23/12/2017, 17:26:25: +234 703 758 2962: Can you say this? 23/12/2017, 17:26:30: Femi: No 23/12/2017, 17:26:40: Femi: I’m taking about Naira sir 23/12/2017, 17:26:42: Femi: Not btc 23/12/2017, 17:26:51: +234 703 758 2962: Sorry 23/12/2017, 17:26:54: +234 703 758 2962: I can’t 23/12/2017, 17:27:10: Femi: Ok no problem. 23/12/2017, 17:28:00: Femi: I’m just gonna ask some people about this and if they say that’s the right decision then it’s fine. 23/12/2017, 17:28:42: Femi: I just don’t wanna get cheated, that’s it 23/12/2017, 17:28:53: +234 703 758 2962: Just remember to tell them u agreed $1467 23/12/2017, 17:28:59: +234 703 758 2962: And u said yes 23/12/2017, 17:29:23: +234 703 758 2962: It was later the bitcoin increased, after 4 hours u came baxk 23/12/2017, 17:29:31: Femi: I’m actually gonna export the chat 23/12/2017, 17:29:44: +234 703 758 2962: Perfect 23/12/2017, 17:32:54: Femi: You just took advantage of the situation, nothing more 23/12/2017, 17:34:13: +234 703 758 2962: Which is? 23/12/2017, 17:35:48: Femi: Really, just cause of $50 23/12/2017, 17:37:56: +234 703 758 2962: If u don’t value it, you wouldn’t have come back after 4 hours 23/12/2017, 17:38:25: Femi: Just doing the right thing 23/12/2017, 17:38:29: +234 703 758 2962: To make a complaint about a deal already finalized 23/12/2017, 17:39:07: Femi: Because something wasn’t right 23/12/2017, 17:51:04: Femi: The money is nothing to me but don’t just want to be cheated 23/12/2017, 17:51:32: Femi: You’re holding for the some coins you didn’t pay for 23/12/2017, 17:52:54: Femi: Bro 23/12/2017, 17:53:01: Femi: Don’t ignore the chat 23/12/2017, 17:58:29: Femi: I just want the right thing to be done, even if you give it out to people in the group as airtime, just don’t eat what doesn’t belong to you, I can sell you funds tomorrow and you’ll make a profit of 500$ from one trade. Why ruin your image cause of 59$ 23/12/2017, 18:06:54: Femi: You actually doing this ? 23/12/2017, 19:49:04: +234 703 758 2962: Hallo 23/12/2017, 21:43:19: Femi: Hi 23/12/2017, 21:54:23: Femi: ?? 23/12/2017, 22:04:50: +234 703 758 2962: Bro 23/12/2017, 22:04:55: +234 703 758 2962: I didn’t cheat u 23/12/2017, 22:08:52: Femi: Like I said, it’s nothing..... just do the right thing 23/12/2017, 22:09:15: Femi: If I had sent to Paxful, you know the rate would be $1500+ 23/12/2017, 22:10:30: +234 703 758 2962: I bought 0.2 btc at 370/$... blockchain rate not long ago 23/12/2017, 22:18:12: Femi: Cause people are selling at 370 now 23/12/2017, 22:19:55: Femi: You see, I paid $1519 on Bitstamp and sold to you at $1467, that’s just cause I wasn’t thinking at the time cause I needed the Naira urgently, ask Raymond..... I was gonna sell to him first 23/12/2017, 22:20:22: +234 703 758 2962: Well 23/12/2017, 22:22:21: +234 703 758 2962: You came back when u realized people are complaining about it in the group 23/12/2017, 22:45:06: Femi: No 23/12/2017, 22:45:53: Femi: I just found out something wasn’t right, bought higher sold lower 23/12/2017, 22:51:06: +234 703 758 2962: So 23/12/2017, 22:51:12: +234 703 758 2962: I should refund now? 23/12/2017, 23:02:12: Femi: If you think that’s the right thing to do 23/12/2017, 23:44:06: Femi: ?? 23/12/2017, 23:47:08: +234 703 758 2962: I don’t 23/12/2017, 23:47:15: +234 703 758 2962: That’s cheating 23/12/2017, 23:49:08: Femi: How’s it cheating? 23/12/2017, 23:52:54: Femi: You received an item worth $1500+ but only paid $1467 23/12/2017, 23:53:30: Femi: I lost $50+ on my side alone just cause of the Blockchain rate and the money is in your account 23/12/2017, 23:53:56: +234 703 758 2962: And mind you, I blocked you because of your calls, nothing more 23/12/2017, 23:54:10: Femi: You should’ve picked up 23/12/2017, 23:54:16: Femi: You had my money 23/12/2017, 23:54:46: Femi: Posting it on NL now 23/12/2017, 23:55:10: +234 703 758 2962: When I was busy �♀ 23/12/2017, 23:55:27: Femi: The money isn’t my problem fam, just don’t wanna be cheated 23/12/2017, 23:56:33: Femi: And mind you, Nsonaso is a legit guy 23/12/2017, 23:57:02: +234 703 758 2962: To me, he is not sha 23/12/2017, 23:57:38: Femi: Maybe that’s cause you’re a cheat sir 23/12/2017, 23:57:54: +234 703 758 2962: He knows himself that he can’t contact me 23/12/2017, 23:58:46: Femi: You think after today, I’m gonna contact you as well? 23/12/2017, 23:59:23: +234 703 758 2962: I have over 500 contacts i buy bitcoin from 23/12/2017, 23:59:59: +234 703 758 2962: I never had this kinda dispute with anyone before 24/12/2017, 00:00:32: +234 703 758 2962: So I don’t think $1500 deal should give me headache � 24/12/2017, 00:03:57: Femi: If people say you’re right no problem 24/12/2017, 00:04:40: +234 703 758 2962: Only a cheat like that guy ll support u �♀ 24/12/2017, 00:05:10: Femi: Like I said even if you don’t wanna pay me, give the money to people, I’m fine with that. Just don’t want you to keep what doesn’t belongs to you 24/12/2017, 00:06:21: Femi: What’s your username on NL ? 24/12/2017, 00:06:39: +234 703 758 2962: Willian10 No matter how long you write, how many pages your write up consume here, will never change the story based on the fact that you both had the rate agreement at first. My opinion: You can never WIN this! You shot yourself! Willian is a winner here! |