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Statsocial:
And yours is
Covenant is just a 15 yr old university! It would be an astounding success for CU to rise over 21,000 higher institutions in the world to make top 1000(top 5%) in such a short while without having additional funding from government. The vast majority of universities in top 1000 are very old. Even the very old UI could only make it in for the first Time in it's existence last year or so. While the likes of UNN and OAU have never been ranked. However, covenant is on d verge of qualifying for consideration for 2018 top 1000 rankings so watch out for Covenant on September 5, 2017 when THE unveils the new top 1000 in London

Mind u,I'm not studying in nigeria and never will(wether private or public)
Check TUM ranking(Techniche universität München)
About your covenant university being a baby,let mie shock you
University of Boudeaux(France) was founded in 2014 and it ranks 350th in the world,
Kalsruhe institute of tech(Germany) became uni in 2009 ranks 144 in the world and 50th in technology.
Each of this school is at least 7 years younger than your over praised CU.age isn't an excuse
Now take a look at other young university in the world making top 1000
1 École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne Switzerland 1969
2 Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Hong Kong 1991
3 Nanyang Technological University Singapore 1991
4 Pohang University of Science and Technology South Korea 1986
5 Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology (KAIST) South Korea 1971
6 Maastricht University Netherlands 1976
7 City University of Hong Kong Hong Kong 1984
8 Ulm University Germany 1967
=9 Karlsruhe Institute of Technology Germany 2009
=9 Scuola Superiore Sant’Anna Italy 1987
11 University of Luxembourg Luxembourg 2003
12 Pierre and Marie Curie University France 1971
=13 University of Antwerp Belgium 2003
=13 University of Duisburg-Essen Germany 2003
15 University of Technology Sydney Australia 1988
16 University of Dundee United Kingdom 1967
17 Pompeu Fabra University Spain 1990
18 Autonomous University of Barcelona Spain 1968
19 Paris-Sud University France 1971
20 Hong Kong Polytechnic University Hong Kong 1994
21 University of Texas at Dallas United States 1969
22 Bielefeld University Germany 1969
23 Aalborg University Denmark 1974
24 Queensland University of Technology Australia 1989
25 King Abdulaziz University Saudi Arabia 1967
26 Gwangju Institute of Science and Technology South Korea 1993
27 Aalto University Finland 2010
28 Paris Descartes University France 1971
29 University of Bayreuth Germany 1975
30 University of Wollongong Australia 1975
31 Paris Diderot University – Paris 7 France 1970
32 University of South Australia Australia 1991
33 Rush University United States 1972
34 Charles Darwin University Australia 1989
35 Griffith University Australia 1971
=36 Koç University Turkey 1993
=36 Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences Sweden 1977
38 James Cook University Australia 1970
39 Central European University Hungary 1991
40 CentraleSupélec France 2015
41 University of Bremen Germany 1971
42 Free University of Bozen-Bolzano Italy 1997
43 Deakin University Australia 1974
44 Sabancı University Turkey 1996
45 Technical University of Dortmund Germany 1968
46 University of Stirling United Kingdom 1967
=47 University of Bordeaux France 2014
=47 George Mason University United States 1972
49 National University of Ireland, Maynooth Ireland 1997
50 Aix-Marseille University France 2012
51 University of Calabria Italy 1972
=52 University of Cyprus Cyprus 1989
=52 Grenoble Alpes University France 2016
54 University of Eastern Finland Finland 1969
55 University of Milan-Bicocca Italy 1998
=56 La Trobe University Australia 1967
=56 Victoria University Australia 1990
58 University of Crete Greece 1973
59 National Taiwan University of Science and Technology (Taiwan Tech) Taiwan 1974
60 Linköping University Sweden 1975
61 Swinburne University of Technology Australia 1992
62 University of Kaiserslautern Germany 1970
63 Montpellier University France 2015
64 Toyota Technological Institute Japan 1981
65 Plymouth University United Kingdom 1992
66 Autonomous University of Madrid Spain 1968
67 University of Macau Macao 1981
=68 Murdoch University Australia 1973
=68 University of Siegen Germany 1972
=68 University of Texas at San Antonio United States 1969
71 University of Salerno Italy 1968
72 Federal University of Toulouse Midi-Pyrénées France 2014
73 Hasselt University Belgium 1973
=74 Dublin City University Ireland 1989
=74 Veltech University India 1997
=76 Bilkent University Turkey 1984
=76 Örebro University Sweden 1999
=76 University of Rovira i Virgili Spain 1991
=79 University of Tsukuba Japan 1973
=79 Western Sydney University Australia 1989
=81 University of Aveiro Portugal 1973
=81 University of Rome III Italy 1992
=81 Verona University Italy 1982
84 Curtin University Australia 1987
85 Claude Bernard University Lyon 1 France 1971
86 UiT The Arctic University of Norway Norway 1968
87 RMIT University Australia 1992
88 Cyprus University of Technology Cyprus 2004
89 Florida International University United States 1972
90 Central Queensland University Australia 1971
91 University of Canberra Australia 1990
=92 Paris-Sorbonne University – Paris 4 France 1971
=92 University of Rome II – Tor Vergata Italy 1982
94 University of Bergamo Italy 1968
95 University of Brescia Italy 1982
96 Higher School of Economics Russian Federation 1992
97 Université du Québec à Montréal Canada 1969
=98 Atılım University Turkey 1996
=98
That is the list of the fastest growing university in the world
And CU isn't sported

Statsocial:
And yours is
Covenant is just a 15 yr old university! It would be an astounding success for CU to rise over 21,000 higher institutions in the world to make top 1000(top 5%) in such a short while without having additional funding from government. The vast majority of universities in top 1000 are very old. Even the very old UI could only make it in for the first Time in it's existence last year or so. While the likes of UNN and OAU have never been ranked. However, covenant is on d verge of qualifying for consideration for 2018 top 1000 rankings so watch out for Covenant on September 5, 2017 when THE unveils the new top 1000 in London

Mind u,I'm not studying in nigeria and never will(wether private or public)
Check TUM ranking

mofewilkie:
How many Nigerian universities are in top 1000?

Non non non
That's what we aresaying

fashrola:
Check some schools in Germany and Austria

U r ryt but bear in Mind that u need nothing less than €8800 yearly for your expenses in the aforementioned countries or what we call verflichtzungzeklarung(declaration of responsibility)don't teach mie what I know
And besides,the state of badenwùrtenburg and Niedersachen has just introduced tuition fee of 1500€ monthly

fashrola:
Check some schools in Germany and Austria

U r ryt but bear in Mind that u need nothing less than €8800 yearly for your expenses in the aforementioned countries or what we call verflichtzungzeklarung(declaration of responsibility)don't teach mie what I know

Statsocial:
Incase you don't know Covenant university graduates are most employed in the country. Incase you don't know Covenant university is the second best university in Nigeria(webometrics) and 29th in Africa. Incase you don't know Covenant university is the 3rd amongst an exclusive list of three(including UNN and UI) to be profiled by Times Higher. So oga what are you saying

I'll like to also tell u dat ur glorified covenant university isn't among the TOP 1000 university in the world
Please pipe low

pansophist:
My friend presently study for his bachelor degree in Lithuania and his annual tuition fee is less than 1500euros. In a year, he spent no more than 3000euros for his living expenses, making his tô total spending less than 4500euros. You neee to research more, it's possible

That's where u get it wrong
I know about Lithuania with their cheap tuition
But what I'm tring to say is
Ask your friend if he will be able to get a Job after studies(that's the bottom line)
Not to get that degree and come back to nigeria and still struggle with home based graduates
Lithuanians full Western Europe dey find work
Abeg ,some countries no be Europe ooo

Orodje:
I'm not talking about which is more developed, and it depends on how you define developed or why is it that Ghanaians remain in their country and they don't travel that much except UK.

I dont need to argue with you coz I never chop just ask anybody you know that's in Gh what's up, why do they prefer Ghana to Naija or better still take a bus from mile2 to Accra
to see for yourself its just 25k

But bro,I'm not disputing the fact that u r getting a better education in ghana compref to nigeria.
But most of u in ghana ,lack of information is killing you people coz if u were welled infored,u wouldn't spend that dollars to optin Ghanaian certificate(African certificate) when the same amount could get u something more recognized in europe(eastern tho ) or Asia
Please let's read vast
I almost made same mistake until I started researching about studying abroad.
I wouldn't hv forgiven my self if I had paid that money to Accea institute of technology or Adhesi uni college.

Orodje:
I'm not talking about which is more developed, and it depends on how you define developed or why is it that Ghanaians remain in their country and they don't travel that much except UK.

I dont need to argue with you coz I never chop just ask anybody you know that's in Gh what's up, why do they prefer Ghana to Naija or better still take a bus from mile2 to Accra to see for yourself its just 25k

And who told u that Ghanaians don't travel that much for educational tourism?
Who is flooding the street of Munich,hamburg ,koln,Berlin,hannover,etc only in Germany alone talkless of other countries.

Afam4eva:
The affordability is another issue and the reason why they go to that school is because it is under * (the board that oversees Nigerian universities).

If you can go to South Africa, you can as well go t the US or UK cos the difference aint really much.

Y will I even spend my dollars to study in South Africa?
Mehn,think Europe,think canada,think Austrialia and for affordability,think japan ,South Korea,Belarus and Ukraine even Dominican Republic
Quote mie if u hv ur mony and need assistance in any of those countries
I'm not an agent oooo
Will only help with information and also application

Statsocial:
It would be wrong to attempt that legally. The best any sane government can do is to encourage people to study back here by improving our public universities and helping our private universities attain their possible best. Not all the problems in higher education is financially related. Some are just a result of bad policies and maladministration. Of recent we've seen an increase in wealthy Nigerians choosing to stay back home to get an undergraduate degree in many private universities. Which means if we can improve on these universities people would naturally stay back to study here.
There is hope you see, but cancelling out educational tourism would only succeed if we allow private universities to succeed. At this point they are the ones capable of retaining the elite class from leaving the shores of Nigeria to seek higher education and also stopping the middle class from aspiring to do so without wrecking the FG purse. But govt should 'help' these private universities by ensuring they rid themselves of obnoxious rules that can turn away prospective students.
Lalasticlala

There exist tones of reasons why people decide to leave the shoes if nigeria for educational tourism and this depends solely on the person involved.
Number 1 reason I think is quality
QUALITY
the quality of education u get in Western Europe and America(north/south) and some part of Asia can never be compared to what you hv in nigeria.if u've studied in Nigeria and also hv the opportunity to study in any developed country,u ll course our education system.
DESIRED COURSE OF STUDY
I may decide to settle with our educational system whether good or bad but I now notice that most of the selling courses aren't done in Nigerian universities.for instance,what's the dream of a Nigerian who wants to become an Aerospace engineer?where can he study that here in nigeria?you see, not only that,other selling courses in the word for instance actuarial /nuclear physics,software engineering ,mechatronics and Robotics neuro-science etc.all this courses aren't done in our university.
RECOGNITION OF ACADEMIC CERTIFICATE
the painfull truth is that our Made in Nigeria Degree cannot fetch u a good job in the outside world except you back it up with a Diploma from other country.our certificate has been belittled to an alarming extent.but with a good degree from Europe,America or Asia,one can boldly present the certificate any where round the globe.
Job OPPORTUNITY
From the statistics so far gathered ,more than 80% of graduate will like to work immediately after studies.itsnot greener any where in the world but other country offers international graduates hopes of employe meant After studies
Taking Germany(Europe ),japan/s.korea(Asia) and Canada (North America) as case study
You wouldn't see graduates from those countries coming back to hustle for unavailable jobs in nigeria becoz of the foreign policies in the afore mentioned countries
Germany offers every international graduate an 18 month recidency to search for work,in japan,despite the high literacy rate amongst the citizens,most engineering and managements student still get their work placement before graduation,same is the case in South Korea.austrialia and canada isn't lacking behind.you see,another good reason for educational tourism.
JAMB FRUSTRATION
this is the only reason u see some nigerians flooding countries like ghana and Benin republic,including Kenya,Cameroon and Niger for educational tourism.
They are just tired of waiting and all they could do is to look for plan b.meanwhile,some of this countries still offers a better tertiary education compared to what is obtainable in Nigeria.but the bottom line is that,they will still come back to drag jobs with home based graduate .
As for mie、 Nigeria couldn't give mie the quality I desired,coupled with my dream course so I was only left with the mercies of foreign educational tourism

pansophist:
Some schools in Europe, with better quality, are cheaper than some most of this universities.

Fear God na
Which school in Europe charges less than 5k dollars for tuition excluding other charges?
Average of $5k =5k*400=2mil naira
Check out na

Rorachy:
Its true, having 2.1 is not an easy job, you must be very serious and determined.

With nigeria's poor grading system?
Pls don't celebrate that luke jackpot
If u 2.1 is to be converted to some European college's grading scale, u will end up having 3rd class or a 2.2.
After all,ist class here is just 70-75%
But u need 90% here to smell first class.
And at the end,it's not about ur grade but God grace and ur skills.in as much as we pursue grade,we should also believe that we too,can be self employed and also employ others.its possible when the mindset is there.

PS712:
I commend this thread,have followed and read from Part 1 and at Part 3 put in application for PhD admission (last week of May). Received reply that my documents were ok but this week I got mail from the school that of the two professors with expertise in the field I applied, none was able to indicate interest to supervise my proposed study as a PhD student, hence I won't be admitted. It's painful considering the effort and money spent but the help here and testimonies are enough to keep one's spirit high, ready to correct what I think went wrong (proposal).
To everyone rendering help here (I mean people like eke47, honorableseyi,Jigba, Justwise, etc) know that you are appreciated and inspiring great number of people in the real world (off the internet) because alot follow without commenting or even registering on Nairaland. Weldone to all for not allowing the thread to be derailed!

Meine Meinung
Apply for masters in ur desired field
Get a visa hopefully.,travel to Germany and start applying for your PhD while looking for supervisors.
PhD isn't all about studies guy ,don't know about Germany but in US,u get some grants while doing your PhD,so it's more like work and u get paid for it.and u need to be better than a lit of applicants.
I believe the master'a route will be quite ok.
Atleast u will get to know how the system works over there.
Don't forget ""sometimes we have to take a step backward in order to move foward.

bochu03:
Bro,write the school to defer your admission cos ur application might b rejected.. U have just three weeks to enrollment and according to embassy it takes 6 working weeks to process student visa.. Mine and other of my colleagues were rejected.. Hochschule Konstanz..ori yato si ori..Buh above all am wishing u well

Bros wetin der sop na?
Du anwortest mir nicht .
Wie geht?

Nigeria
I weep for this country
Where is the peace and unity we profess?

Halifaxguy:
Even in a broad you have to be a manager of a top firm to earn that. People don't earn that much in Canada & US. Infact some bachelor degree holder earns like $14-$16 per hour, which amounts to something like $40k to 46k per annum. Op next time try to be realistic. Is not easy in the real world.

Hey bro
40k Canadian dollars ?
That's too small,far too small bro
A cleaner in an oil firm or top IT firm goes home with atleast 3k can dollars after tax.(a woman I know too well) not talk of working in one oil sand in Canada ,bro nothing less that 6figures oo.
A friend working parting in Boston earns 2500$ per month with one cafeteria and u r telling what I know too well about.
Bro,good degree ,hard work and God's favour will always land u six figures .think positive

gentlegenius:
Research shows that girls nowadays start dating from the age of 15-16. So I think 16 is the proper age for them to start dating but they should be guided because teenagers are so prone to mistakes. So instead of telling them not to date when you know they'll still hide and do it, simply advice them to date the right person and date wisely. Also, guide and watch them closely while they are dating.
This is what I'll do even to my daughter and younger sister.

Honestly

Elliot2:
different strokes for different people. well, u may not understand him, but you don't have d moral right to judge him.

Ain't judging any folk here
I can't just blend to this niga's style
Like I said earlier,tis not nice so any1 that belongs to his domain will definitely blend and accept his mess

Let's give a little analysis
Imagine every1 get convince and buy this nigur's mindset

30yrs old man =17yrs old gurl
25yrs old man =13yrs old
20year old guy=8or 9years old little kid
That implies that u won't be angry if an 18yrs old boy come looking for your 5 years old sister or daughter .
And this is actually what the society is turning into and we men are mostly the cause of this bulshit.
This guy's formulae isn't making sense at all

gentlegenius:
Like you rightly said, this is 2017 and not those days when parents used to decide everything that involves their children's future. Even if her parents were rich, they can't tell her to go to the University, go to service, get a job and bla bla bla before getting married. This is preposterous. Girls don't have much time on their side do they should be allowed to decide when to settle down. Can't a lady go to the University or get a job after marriage?
By the way, with the increasing number of unemployed graduates in this country, how many girls still want to waste their time and resources in the higher institution?
I know my girlfriend and her family so well. She's not a higher institution freak and her family is too poor to even think about that.

Sowie for quoting almost all your post but I can't just help
"""Her family is very poor and they can't even think of higher education"

That's their weak point and u think u can take advantage of that ahbi?
And who told you that females doesn't go to school anylonger due to enemployement?
I'm not a girl but 50% of girls I crave with are so ambitious and can't trade their dream with anything including marriage .
Don't take advantage of her.
I wish she could just attend one seminar that will change her mentality for ever.u will see her running away like 40000 miles from u once she discover ur plans

gentlegenius:
Thanks for your encouragement. You've just boosted my morale by sharing your own story.
But this one you are talking about marriage early next year, isn't it too early? Has she finished secondary school? Why the rush? Why not hang on a little since both of you still have age on your side?
As for me, my girl will finish school next year and I already have plans to establish and set her up before marrying her possibly at 19 or 20.

I'm still wondering how a 30 years old matured man is scoping a girl in ss2 and still expect her to pass physics and chemistry or mk atleast 5crefit in her weac.
Take it or leave it,it's unfair

gentlegenius:
Your comment is borne out of stark ignorance. Sometimes, it is better to be silent on sensitive issues than to make unreasonable comments.
Haven't you seen couples with more than 13 years age difference being happily married? I explained in my previous comments that I am not just dating this girl but I am grooming her to be a good wife material so that I can marry her in future. Don't you get it? How dare you tell me to leave her and date my mate? As a man, will you marry a lady that is your age mate? Don't you know women gets old faster than men? What if I leave her and she ends up marrying someone older than me?

Bro
U r taking it too personal na
You follow reason this mater na!
Unless u dey run daycare,else ,please fear God.

gentlegenius:
Why not define CHILD ABUSE on your own since you don't subscribe to my definition and explanations above.
When did it becomes an abuse to love and take care of a teenage girl? When did it becomes an abuse to guide and control a teenage girl? Didn't your father or senior brother perform these roles in your life when you were a teenager? Was that an abuse? Pls be more reasonable when you respond to sensitive issues.

So u r her church spiritual brother or school brother?
Brotherly!!!
Stop sugar coating
That relationship is irritating
Wait until she introduces you to her friends and sure,they ll be calling you UNCLE,maybe then you will understand that u r too old for her.

kimewills:
Grown up men taking their time to polish something they know deep down isn't right...you mean to say a 30year old man would ask ur 16 or 17year old sister out and you will calmly say...he has a reason for that and give them ur blessing.

I now conclude
Tis a child abuse
I've just imagined my 17 years old sister dating my friend who is about 25.let alone,dating some1 of about 30 years old.
It's not hygienic at all ,no matter how we see it.we need to fear God
Abegi

Pidgin2:
Perfect decision, I envisage foreign professional qualifications without Nigerian certification whether by a foreigner or Nigerian citizen who waste thousands of dollars acquiring them will soon be worthless in this country

We have more than enough Nigerian trained qualified folks here already

I just wonder how the million Dollars spent becomes headache to you.
People need quality.
U are free to get stocked with ur good for noting so called Nigerian university.
We need quality education and don't kill your self about the spent dollars.its none of your business .bad belle

femmoy:
Boss pls I'm confused now by wat I just read,can u clarify which is right?
For bsc progs taught in English,I guess my basic requirements are waec,ielts and if possible first year transcript in a higher education
I read waec and ielts alone can't get u an undergrad admission . pls kindly clarify. Thank u sir

Yea
Weac result and IELTS isn't sufficient for that
You need a transcript of ist year in university
Note,they don't accept from poly and they don't even accept few universit's result(mainly private)
So if u've not got ur first year transcript,I'll suggest you try to do that and learn german simultaneously .

sawhite:
you remember our female mutual friend on facebook

Apologies humbly tendered
Not because I'm weak but it's always been the case with mie
I hate cyber argument as it always lead to insult
But we should always learn to respect other's input as it will contribute more to the growth of this thread.like I said earlier,some STK can even give u conditional invitation to aufnametest without even A1 result.
The question is,how is it done ,I'll now explain and state instances where it has happened and the people involved .no one knows it all,I myself I was also doubting when I heard about it until I made further research.meanwhile,if u hv ur a2 result and anticipate your b1 soonest .quote mie I'll be of help .i think by then I'll be able to prove my point.
I rest my case.

Jigba:
No studienkolleg WILL accept A2 cause they also have other applicants who have higher language certificates like b1, b2 and even c1.
His best bet would be to apply with b1

People like u makes others not to give their opinions based on research on this thread.
U always conclude on issues u know nothing about.thats y u won't learn.
I just wonder when u started researching about STK coz I'm sure u aren't up to 6months in this thread.
My moniker is bold even.
Read my past post on this thread and learn about STK.
Meanwhile if u need stk that gives conditional admission letter with A2,there exist just one my dear .if u r interested,do ur research but I'm sure it will take u ages.
My advice,always shut up on issues u don't know about.dont conclude coz I can even give u studienkolleg invitation letter without any language certificate.