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AbuuBilaal:
your understanding of the article is faulty!

The point of the article is that being underage or not is a function of the development of the person (male or female).

Unlike your dogmatic belief that there's an age that a person suddenly matures and attains puberty at the stroke of midnight of 18th birthday, Islam as a realistic religion observes the variation in individuals, this variation is also present from tribe to tribe.

So, the question you should be answering is 'what's your justification for the 18yr tag'?
I assure you, it's baseless, in scientifically and culturally.
Only the western dogmas swallow the crap hook line and sinker.

Be truthful just for once with yourself. An average 9 year old cannot be the same in body and vital female organs necessary for reproduction as an average 18 year old. If there is any, it could be maybe 1 in every 10 child. How does that 1 child now become a justification to marrying out every other 9 year old child? Because that's what your people are doing.

AbuuBilaal:
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MARRIAGE OF AISHA @ 9
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This is so STRANGE why ?


I checked one page on Facebook our bothers were
busy in argument with Christians
about the age of our Mother Aisha (R.A) and many of
us can't defend our selves on this issue but lemme
make it clear.


-while the disbelievers were busy calling
HIM(Prophet PBUH) a pedophile.

-the muslims were busy faulting sahih
bukhari so as to "cover-up" the issue.

-the aged were like: that's extremism.

Aisha radiAllahu anha said, I was given in
marriage to the rasul salallahu alayhi
wassalam when I was 6yrs old, and he
consummated the marriage when I was 9
( bukhari)

Rather than call it a da'eef hadith, to please
ur non-muslim friends who are insulting ur
rasool, just be silent,or ask the scholars and
read more about seerah and perhaps Allah
may grant u d hikmah behind it.

Have u ever asked urself?

Why is it that during the days of quraysh,
they called the rasul:

Magician, madman, and the likes but NEVER
called him a pedophile?

They never raised any question about his
marriage to Aisha (R.A), why?

Bcoz it was NORMAL at that time, girls at
dat age were suitable for marriage at dat
time, did u know:

-saint augustine (350AD) married a 10 year
old girl!

-king richard 11 (1400AD) he married a 7yr
old girl.

-henry Viii (1500AD) he married a 5yrs old
girl.

Even in the BIBLE it says:
....But save for yourself every girl who has never slept
with a man (numbers 31. 17:28)

According to the catholic encyclopedia,
mary the mother of Jesus was 12 when she married
the 99 years old joseph.

Before 1929, church of england ministers
could marry 12yrs old girls in britain.

Up till 1983, catholic canon laws permitted priests to
marry off brides at the age of 12.

In the united states, back in 1880, in the state of
delaware, the minimum age for marriage was 7yrs
and in california it was
10.

So aisha radiAllahu anha was NOT a child when she
was married!

We live in a society where good is
condemned at every slight opportunity but evil is
encouraged even when its flaws are
crystal clear.


How strange!

The Nigerian constitution says:
An 18yr old can vote

An 18yr old can go to jail

An 18yr old can contest for political positions

An 18yr old can travel outside d country all alone.
.
And YET, an 18yr old can't marry?

But our 12yrs old Girls are having boyfriends!
.

Did u know?.
.
When safiyyah bint huyay was married to the rasul,
she was just 17yrs old? And that
was her THIRD marriage
She was initially married to salam ibn abi haqiq and
later to kinanah ibn abi haqiq!.

Imagine how old she was during her first
marriage?

Are u clarified now?

those still doubtful, Go back to ur village
and ask ur grandmother how old she was when she
got married!.

Islam is perfect

So Mohammed followed multitude to do evil abi? And his coming could not correct the prevalent wrong of child marriage of that time, only for the infidel that came after him to stop child marriage. That's what a prophet that was supposed to lead by example could not correct only for his pig to join the swine in the mud. That it was a popular practice that time didn't make it a right thing to do. And I know if Mohammed was a true prophet of God, he should know better instead of joining them. If it were today's world where a lot of wrong doing has become a normal thing to do in the society, Mohammed would have also participated in it because it's no more seen as a bad thing to do.

Come on. Your justification for marrying an underage is faulty.

Tiri gbosa for Trump!! Even when we know that Mohammed hated the Jews with passion and Muslims see them as their worst enemies.

I beg, when dem say dem go cut the guy hand?

wakaman007:
Hi guys. I was recently issued a B1/B2 visa 1 year multiple entry to the US. This was for a training program in Texas. However, my ticket POE is Washington since am headed to Maryland. Can i get an invitation letter from someone in Maryland and use as my reason for entry into the US, or was the reason for visa issuance entered into the system. In which case the Port officer will know that i have changed my reason. Please advice me. I am confused. And to be honest, i don't intend to come back. I dey go na to hustle.

You don't need an invitation from Maryland. Enter Washington and take a train from Union train station in Washington to Baltimore, Maryland for just 7 dollars. From Washington to Maryland is not more than 30 minutes on uber taxi also. Washington is almost part of Maryland. Too close. Why do you have to risk losing your visa at poe? Why do you have to reroute to Washington by the way, when you told them at the embassy that you are going to Texas? That's taking unnecessary risk in my opinion. You may have to enter Texas first and get on the train or bus the following day to Maryland.

slimany:
Bro.Are u at liberty to work for any number of hours in a day or the coy dictates a specified time u can use to work per day.

hmmn. ur way pure o. even without any cert. una dey collect 9$ . make somebody come carry me inside boot jare enter ame.

The company dictates. But by the labor law, you are allowed to work minimum of 40 hours per week ( 8hours per day) with overtime a lot of time. And for each over time hour you work, you are paid 13 dollars per hour. Overtime pays more than regular time in the US. Now you can imagine how much people like nurses and doctors will be collecting for overtime.

paschu:
When President Trump banned the Iraqis (and folks from 6 other muslim-majority countries) from traveling to the US, the Iraqi parliament retaliated with a call to ban all Americans from entering Iraq. This retaliatory action resonantly echoed the loud anti-Trump (and by extension anti- American) protests and rhetorics from many political observers and leaders from around the world. And that was spot on. After all, why should the world give Trump's America as much tolerance and unconditional love as the world demands to get from America?

Is it not clear that America exists only to serve the world? Is the United States not owned by the world? It's therefore so baseless for America to restrict migration to the United States from any part of the world. Or don't you agree that Trump and his millions of American supporters must be so senselessly fearful and hateful for daring to ban immigrants from those countries where the very existence of America is passionately hated?

So, since Trump's America is now increasingly viewed as paranoid, hateful and unfair, one would expect the entire world to man up and ban all Americans at once. But surprisingly that has not happened yet. Instead, the call to ban Americans was promptly rejected by the Iraqi government. Why? Because, according to its Prime Minister, "Iraq does not want to lose Washington's backing in its battle against ISIL". Of course it's right for America to protect Iraq (and the rest of the world) from Islamic extremists. But it's so wrong for America to think of ways to protect itself from the same Islamic extremists.

And, talking about protection, can't you see that America's sophisticated army (with its massive budget) is not needed in the world's bid to stop ISIL? I'm sure that more tolerance, more love and more political correctness towards ISIL will get the job done, faster and even better. So why should the world show even a moment's love and tolerance to the divisive Trump and his over-pampered Americans, when ISIL and its potential recruits obviously need more love and acceptance?

Let's quit pretending that we hate Trump but love America. Truth is we hate the American system which produced Trump. And we hate Americans who made Trump their president. That's why we could disrespect, malign and ridicule their president with impunity. So it won't be any worse if the entire world banned Americans and whatever represents them. As in, the UK should protest against the Internet too, not just against Trump. It's time for China and Mexico to close their factories to American brands. And the EU should reject America's budget for NATO. Let's show Americans that the world can do without America. Or don't you think it's better to move back to the world where there's neither Internet nor smartphone rather than watch Trump put America first?

You know why that will never happen? Number one, America is world police checkmating the excesses of other countries. Some countries economy depend on petrol dollar from America. So they can't survive e.g Saudi.

Despite baning Iraqis, America still support iraq in military wise. China is the largest trade partner of the US. Quality chinese products are everywhere in the US. Chima would not like to lose it's largest market.

Many other countries of the world from Africa to asia recelve some form of aids from the U.S.. Of course they don't want to lose that. Have you heard about USAID before? They fiance projects that touch the grassroots around the world. Virtually every country benefits from the U.S.one way or the other. From military to trade to financial aids.

No other countries in the world has been a benefactor to other countries like the U.S.not even Russia or China.

Bobbyunitedfc:
OH SO it has even increased to 135 ,Nigerians in diaspora u guys are enjoying o,imagine making 800 dollars per hours as a cleaner in the US right now?

samhay...bro u just disappear,ur messages aint going tru no more

Who wan pay you 800 dollars per hour in the US? Even a whole nurse dey collect 35 to 40 dollars per hour. And me I dey collect 9 dollars per hour. And na because I never go school get a college degree to dey work. A new entry level job generally on the average pay at least 20 dollars per hour with a college degree.

Bobbyunitedfc:
OH SO it has even increased to 135 ,Nigerians in diaspora u guys are enjoying o,imagine making 800 dollars per hours as a cleaner in the US right now?

samhay...bro u just disappear,ur messages aint going tru no more

Who wan pay you 800 dollars per hour in the US? Even a whole nurse dey collect 35 to 40 dollars per hour.

Muslims finding relevance from place to place. Even bible is not left out in their quest for relevance.

1stMD:
I'm using verses in the Bible to show u people the real JESUS, and, ur pastors already known WHO IS JESUS! Bro

If you believe in the bible as an authority to validate who Mohammed is, then you have a duty to believe in the same bible authority as touching who it says Jesus is, that he is the son of God and the only way to God.

If you give credit to Nigerian constitution as an example because it protect your right in a way, then you have to accept the same constitution as it protects others right another way. You can't eat your cake and still have it.

Failure to do that discredit your claim. Therefore, believe the bible entirely. Simple logic. End of story.

1stMD:
No one can answer my questions, I love him that's why I'm always talking about him as a JESUS MUSLIM

You love him. Who is the "him" you are talking about. Which Jesus are you refering to? I guess not the true Jesus but Islamic muslim Jesus that doesn't exit.

If as a Christian ii say I believe in Mohammed, does that imply that I believe in the Muslim Mohammed? Because the Mohammed ii believe in iis a deceiver that has deceived millions of people for over1400 years in the name of Islam while he is believed as a prophet by every Muslim.

So, you can claim you believe in Jesus all you want. But the question remain, do you believe in the true Jesus? No is the answer.

tijjanioyan:
who is dis intruder?are u a muslim why incursion into our territory?i've never seen a group hiprocrites like xtians.They wil neva quote any negativ speech of jesus,only d sweet ones they wil quote.did jesus not tel u dat he didnt bring PEACE to d world?That he brought SWORD and FIRE,Matt10:34-37,Luke12:49-51

If you do not know that Jesus speaks with parables then you need to show us one of his action that took away peace from the world. He never fought a single war unlike Mohammed. I think you know whatever someone mean by his action.

Mohammed took away peace from the world in his time shedding blood everywhere he went with jihad.

Heyheeey! Jesus is a muslim...

Muslims are deluded beyond comprehension.

Deejay1000:
"TRUMPED" from another Forum:- German Muslim scholar replies on TERRORISM. I liked the answer of this German Muslim scholar when he was asked about terrorism and Islam. He said. "Who started the first world war? Not Muslims!! Who started the second world war? Not Muslims!! Who killed about 20 millions of Aborigines in Australia ? Not Muslims!! Who sent the nuclear bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Not Muslims!! Who killed more than 100 millions of Indians in North America? Not Muslims!! Who killed more than 50 million of Indians in south America? Not Muslims!! Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves and 88% of them died and were thrown overboard into Atlantic ocean? Not Muslims!! No, NOT Muslims!! First of all, You will have to define terrorism properly. If a non-Muslim does something bad. It is crime. But if a Muslim commits the same. He is a Terrorist. So first remove this double standards. Then come to the point. I am proud to be a MUSLIM !! ARE YOU

Being an hypocrite is when you claim that christians started the world wars that were not religiously caused because religion was not the basis of those wars, and refuse to acknowledge the significantly huge parts played by muslim world in the wars. Of course muslim countries and organizations fought and were as well responsible for the killings in the war. What your Islamic leaders won't tell you is that Muslims participated actively in the war. Some supporting the allied forces while some supported Nazi Germany against the Jews.

You may have to do more research on the part taken in the wars by muslims. You may as well ask the then Ottoman Empire (Turkey) or muslim brotherhood of Egypt on how they collabo with Hitler to fight the allied forces and how they sided hitler to kill their long time Muhammad enemies: the Jews. Stop giving those stuff religious coloration. They were not caused by religion. They were caused by human appetites for political and economic control.

natruebdiz:
1 John 2:15-17
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever.

How does that go against taking care of your parents? You just quoted the bible out of the way. Do you even understand what you have uoted now and what it means to not love the world?" I guess not. I think you need more bible schooling.

natruebdiz:
christians, dont get excited by things of the world

She did this for her aged parents. I guess you want your children to celebrate you too at your old aged. So why wont you be happy for the aged parents? My bible doesn't teach me to be a sadist. I'm happy for the good of others.

Bumbae1:
Some people never see airport ..
Pastor flying whole family !!! Which with money ohhhh
They collect from the poor and are rich AF .. not even seen a poor pastor before though its a lovely gesture .. JESUS wont do this but who am I to judge ..

Watin this one dey talk? You ever attend Nigeria n church for US before? Nigerian pastor s in the US are not 99% of the time fulltime pastors. They are career people in the US. They can afford luxury with their own hard earn money. They give to the church out of their own expense. So flying papa and mama to the State is a big deal to you. What non pastor Nigerians do on daily basis in the US.

ok

justwise:


Chichi please stick with plumber and not 'plummer'..you really don't want to know what that means..very cruel street slag

Haba!! That's the correct pronunciation na, but it's spelt as "plumber". Audio dictionary can help you.

Caseless:
maybe your jesus is confused. Check what he said in the new testament in mathew 5:16-17 KJV . You guys know nothing about your bible.

Put it here what it says instead of quoting number. I checked it. Your quotation is out of the wah. Maybe you wanted to quote a different verse.

Caseless:
why do some christians behave like donkeys? So, jesus said you should ignore the old testament right? You have more than 1k spaces the world "kill'' appear in the bible for violent reason, it appear less than a hundred in the qur'an.

The question you need to ask yourself is, why is the first segment of the bible regarded as old while the second segment regarded as new?

Just apply your basic English common sense of "old" and "new". That will help. Maybe I need to help you as well.

Ok...just as an example. When a new edition of a text book is published, it simply means that a lot of changes maybe in science or new discoveries have been added by the author. And some (not all) of the content of the old edition textbook can no more be good enough to make one pass a qualifying examinations.

Mind you, that doesn't mean that the old edition textbook is now completely useless. It's just that some formula and theories in it may no more comply with the latest and new realities and discoveries. Hence the new edition. The new edition may be to totally phase out the old edition or it may be to readdress some issues as contained in the old edition.

So it's not by accident that the bible is segmented into old and new. So the new testament is to address all the terrible and deadly laws of the old testament. Now instead of getting heinous punishment and death for transgression of the law, Jesus now gives forgiveness and new life like in the case of the adulterous woman that they wanted to stone. He told her to sin no more. And that should be the case.We have all committed the same sins worthy of death at least once in our life. But no one caught us in the act to stone us to death. So why should we now be the one to stone others?

Hence Jesus said:
2 Cor 5:17 the old things have passed away; behold all things have become new ...

gawu1:
You have said ''That is why you don't see Christians acting out the violent verses like Muslims do because it's iin conflict with the teaching of Jesus whom they follow.''
If you can answer these few questions with all sincerity:
From which religion were those that masterminded over 400 yrs slave trade in Africa which caused not less 30million death in the continent?
From which religion were the cause and masterminders of the first world war which caused death of less 20million people?
From which religion were the caused and masterminders of the WWII which caused death of over 30million people?
Were muslims that killed over 10million Jews between 1939 & 1943?
Those that threw first over and last ever seen devastating atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were muslims?
Incineration of over 6million jews were done by muslims?

He should be able to answer you not until you know how to draw a line between politically\economically motivated issues and religiously motivated issues. Non of those was perpetrated as a result of a lesson or motivation drawn from a religion like Muslim terrorists do.

You talk of slavery. Muslim world started slavery centuries before Europeans and it still continues iin the middle east today.

For the world wars. Go back to your research. Islamic countries had their allies iin the ww1 and ww2. Turkey supported and fought in the frontline of Germany during ww1 and 2 Other muslim countries too fought for the Western allies, UK and US. You are so less informed to think it only Western countries alone that fought the war. Middle east countries supported countries they thought would benefit them.

Google can help you know the reason why Hitler hated the Jews. It's economical and not religious. Jews controlled the economy of Germany from small businesses to large corporations and very influential and rich while native German s were poor and suffering. This was the beginning of Hitler prejudice against the Jews.