₦airaland Forum

olab059:
So the guy was okay with you giving him just 300 naira?

Sirseedorf:


Let's the third class in philosophy breaztsc...

geesilver:
The other JAMB scam has overshadowed her news updates, everyone was interested in who was lieing between JAMB and the so called innocent little girl or woman.....

This is a clear case of excellent and not the other one with questionable result.

TemplarLandry:
Amina, let your hair breaaaf.
Don't suffocate the hair. (In Aşiwaju's voice)

Raskimonojendor:
Probably one of his simplest case since he started practicing law.

The other lawyers just want to chop Alhaji Atiku and Peter Obi's money. It's not like they are daft.

Even Reno Omokri of PDP travelled all the way to Chicago to confirm if Tinubu indeed graduated and if the Tinubu was a he or she. He only got his heart broken

ManWater:
I wonder what Angel Gabriel is waiting for. Abi trumpet don loss?

MS247:
May Allah protect our people

fergie001:
SOURCE

DrGoodman:
That's an intra party affair. Pre election matter.

CondenseMilk:
Uploaded results should tally with physical results when counted.

helinues:
Dead and buried case.

Another labouring in vain. Chai

BluntCrazeMan:
Good Morning.

You're really trying so hard to divert this discussion..
But I won't oblige you that.

You see your argument above,, I want you to remove anything that talks about “Results” from it, and replace it with “ACCREDITATION DATA”..

Remove “EC8As” from it, and replace it with “BVAS-Machines”..

Remove “EC8As for the results”, and replace it with “BVAS-Machines for the Accreditation Data”..


Remove “Electronic Transmission” from it, and replace it with “Direct Manual Transmission”..


Now,, you can see that we are saying the same thing on one side..
But you're totally avoiding the most important aspect of the discussion.

So, do the little adjustments above, and then teach me what the law says..

BluntCrazeMan:
I am not arguing the sources of the electoral information here..

I am just trying to unbundle what the term “MANUAL TRANSMISSION” means; that is, if it has to be applied properly when seen through the lenses of the Section-64(4-8.) of the Electoral-Act-2022..

BVAS-main is the source of Accreditation Data.
No doubts about that.
(Now.. Let us not even talk about the results here.. Let us base on the “Transmission” of Accreditation Data Only)..

The Section-64(4)(a) said that EVERY Collation Officer and including the Returning Officers must use the ACCREDITATION DATA that were “Transmitted Directly From The Polling Units” to verify all their Collated Accreditation Data before they can say that they have completed their collation.
The Electoral Act didn't specify that it is only the WARDS COLLATION OFFICERS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO CARRY OUT THE CHECK..

Thus, every Collation-Officer and Returning-Officer is mandated under the law to carry out this verification process “using the transmitted BVAS-Machines”, as agreed by the INEC..


Section-64(6)(c) said that where there is a dispute during collation, (the law didn't say that the dispute can only be settled at the Ward-Level or LGA-Level -- the law envisaged that the disputes can come up at any point in the process of collation),, the Collation Officer or the Returning Officer must use the ACCREDITATION DATA that were “Transmitted Directly From The Polling Units” to settle the dispute.


So, you have to stop dragging my argument to where I am not dragging it to.

I am just trying to see and understand the Section-64 of the Electoral Act, if INEC fully and properly applied the MANUAL TRANSMISSION., rather than PARTIAL Application of the method.

BluntCrazeMan:
Your submission is wrong at four points which I emboldened..

1st. The Electoral-Act didn't mention any form of verification with hard copies that are with the Polling Officers and AGENTS..
Read the Electoral-Act again abbegg..


2nd.. Read Section-64(4b)..
After reconciliation of the EC8As accreditation values with the BVAS,, The EC8As-results should also be reconciled too. So, why are you interested in only the accreditation values without saying anything about the results itself.??
I repeat.... Read Section-64(4b) all-over again.


3rd.. I wrote a very long post,, but I suggested that the BVAS Should be transmitted manually.,, Just the way INEC Agreed in the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal..
I didn't suggest anything about IREV.
So,, can you just tell me the reason you involved IREV in your response.
(Easy guess... You didn't even understand my sarcastic logic)


4th.. The Electoral-Act in Section-64 made the whole verification process very clear.
Section-64(4a). Verify Collation of Accreditation with the Accreditation Data that were transmitted directly from the Polling-units.
Section-64(4b). Verify Collation of Results with the Results that were transmitted directly from the Polling-units.

BluntCrazeMan:
All through the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal, the INEC were busy trying to establish that Electronic Transmission is not a necessity, and that INEC might choose at the last-minute to do Manual Transmission.

They even went as far as bringing a Tribune Newspaper to the Tribunal Court, and tried to portray that the INEC Chairman said that INEC cannot do Electronic Transmission any longer, but they were so silent on the part inside the same news-article which said that INEC would upload the results on the IREV-Portal realtime and instantly.
https://tribuneonlineng.com/we-wont-transmit-raw-figures-of-election-results-inec-chairman/
(We Won’t Transmit Raw Figures Of Election Results, INEC Chairman)


But then, since the issue of the Instant Upload to the IREV-Portal is still contested at the courts, let's leave that particular Judgement for the Judges to fully decide..

But you see the aspect of TRANSMISSION.??
The New Electoral Act 2022 concluded it very well..

Whether INEC chose to use Electronic Transmission, or MANUAL TRANSMISSION,, There MUST Definitely be a Transmission.

Now, let us take a good look at the Section-64 of the Electoral Act,, starting from Sub-Section-(4)...
















INEC had already agreed that the only way for any Collation Officer to verify the accreditation data at any collation-level is by cross-checking with the accreditation values that were captured inside the BVAS-Machines.
[Section-64(4a)]
And that the only way for any Collation Officer to verify the results at any collation-level is by cross-checking with the photos of the results that were captured inside the BVAS-Machines.
[Section-64(4b)]

The INEC also agreed that these verifications must be done by cross-checking against the Accreditation-Values and Photos of Results that are inside the “MANUALLY” Transmitted BVAS-Machines.

AGREED..
No Wahalla...

But they should also note that, according to the Section-64(4) of the Electoral Act, the “TRANSMISSION” must cut across all the levels of collation, up to the returning level.
(The Electoral Act mentioned “A Collation Officer or Returning Officer”, which means that it involves all the Collation Officers as well as The Returning Officers too - there are no exceptions.)

Thus, all the collation officers along the whole line, and up to the final returning officers must all wait for the Manually Transmitted BVAS-Machines to get to them, before they can commence collation....
WHICH IS SO DIFFICULT, TIME-WASTING, AND HIGHLY UNOBTAINABLE..

And should there be any disputes at any level of collation,, these same MANUALLY TRANSMITTED BVAS-MACHINES must be relied upon in settling the disputes,, and correcting the collated results..
[Section-64(6)]

mokwechineme:
Its no longer news that southwest is becoming the poverty capital of the nation. If u go beyond the capital and into the villages of Ogun, Ondo, Osun and most especially Kwara and Ekiti, you will shed tears for the inhabitants of these areas. There u see people eating poverty as food. The worst part is there are very low remittances from family members who have managed to travel outside these areas.
A typical yoruba youth once he managed to leave these areas finds it difficult connecting back to his root. You have lots and lots of these villagers scavenging for food and there is very little to scavenge because the leadership has very minimal presence outside the state capitals

A young yoruba fron Ogun, Ondo etc will arrive Lagos and automatically becomes a Lagos indigene abandoning his root and people back home.

There should be awareness among Yoruba youths to arresting this very ugly trend because parents after struggling to train their kids will be left abandoned by their children

Whiteangel1234:
#Mmesomagate : Today, I have written JAMB giving them 24 hours to come clean and apologize to Ms Mmesoma for violating her rights or face court action. We shall be heading to Court once the time given elapses without hearing from them.

https://twitter.com/JAMaduakolam/status/1676003527263506432?t=BPlhELjUwDOY5mGCQ04LlA&s=19[/quote]You should prepare for 10 million court fine for being a busy body meddlesome interloper. The girls is a fraud. You better retract your charge and bail letter before it is too late. Some of you were threatened with sanctions being emotional and headless in your activities as a lawyer.

casualobserver:
Your daftness is still on display. Irev has no recognition in law. It is not irev that determines who wins an election but the EC8 forms. Irev is merely a public viewing portal. After all what is irev if not simply an exhibition of what is contained in the EC8 forms. Please if you still have any plans to rest your brain. Read the judgement that affirmed Adelekan as governor. The Supreme Court has clearly stated that irev has no relevance. The only thing that matters is the EC8 and BVAS so all this nonsense you people are doing in court is just nollywood show. If you truly felt you won the election, your lawyers will be presenting the EC8 forms in courts, after all your agents have original copies.

You cannot rig the election on irev because part agents have original copies of whatever is posted on Irev.

We know you people are not blessed with brains, you don’t need to keep providing evidence.

It is no different from that female fraudster fromAnambra. You can manufacture any result sheet you want but your score is what is on the jamb records.

Burob:
If you get any logical common sense, please answer this 1 question, who came 2nd in the presidential election 2023, Peter Obi or Atiku?

Or maybe Eye Neck manipulated the results as you purportedly claim, & actually it was kwakwanso that came 2nd?

We Nigeria’s National Peoples Party, have evidence to prove we came 2nd.

Burob:
If you get any logical common sense, please answer this 1 question, who came 2nd in the presidential election 2023, Peter Obi or Atiku?

SpatialKing:
You guys will quickly create threads like this one after every PEPT meeting just to console yourselves for your defendants bad outings in court

HIGHESTPOPORI:
The same Original copies Inec and Apc are rejecting abi

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Same results Inec and Apc are rejected but is been admitted in court,same results showing LP won Rivers and Benue but Inec announced it for the Apc.

Didijiji:
It will get to a point where the conscience of the judges and citizens will be in between 2 choices...

1. Allow a government who is perceived to have connived with INEC to rig themselves to power to continue in Power

2. Annul the flawed election and order a re-election

How come BVAS and IREV only failed at the time Presidential election results are being uploaded?

IamV:
I want to use this opportunity to specially introduce someone to you all.

She's beautiful.
she's brilliant.
she's calm & articulated.
Her character have been defamed.
She have been bullied online by some insufferable & mischievous elements.
She feel traumatized & that the world is against her.
But I want her to understand we got her back.
She shouldn't be getting the negative publicity she's getting.
But you know what ?
God have used those mischievous elements to take her to greater heights.
Ejikeme Mmesoma, you're appreciated.
You're a brilliant queen & you will be protected.

Moblux:
Why is JAMB railroading this issue without investigating properly? Could the poor girl's school be involved in this sham without her knowledge? Could it be as a result of negligence of duty or human error or malfunctioning of system on the part of JAMB.

Is JAMB trying to pin their inefficiency on the poor girl?

If INEC could do it why not JAMB?