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rhymz: Hahahaha. . . Is it not obvious that you seriously have comprehension problems and confusing things?
Where in the link was it mentioned that any of these schools were founded by religious bodies. .LMAO and you query why I dey yab you?
HAVARD UNIVERSITY: Harvard University is an American private Ivy League research university located in Cambridge, Massachusetts, United States, established in 1636 by the Massachusetts legislature. Harvard is the oldest institution of higher learning in the United States
Harvard was founded in 1636 by vote of the Great and General Court of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, making it the oldest institution of higher learning in the United States. Initially called "New College" or "the college at New Towne", the institution was renamed Harvard College on March 13, 1639. It was named after John Harvard, a young English clergyman from Southwark, London, an alumnus of the University of Cambridge (after which Cambridge, Massachusetts is named), who bequeathed the College his library of four hundred books and £779 pounds sterling, which was half of his estate.[20] The charter creating the corporation of Harvard College came in 1650. In the early years, the College trained many Puritan ministers.[21] The college offered a classic academic course based on the English university model—many leaders in the colony had attended the University of Cambridge—but one consistent with the prevailing Puritan philosophy. The college was never affiliated with any particular denomination, but many of its earliest graduates went on to become clergymen in Congregational and Unitarian churches throughout New England
UNIVERSITY OF OXFORD: As the oldest university in the English- speaking world, Oxford is a unique and historic institution. There is no clear date of foundation, but teaching existed at Oxford in some form in 1096 and developed rapidly from 1167, when Henry II banned English students from attending the University of Paris.
Cambridge University: The university grew out of an association of Cambridge scholars that was formed in 1209, early records suggest, by scholars leaving Oxford after a dispute with townsfolk.
The official founding of Cambridge University is traced to the enhancement, by a charter in 1231 from King Henry III of England, which awarded the ius non trahi extra (a right to discipline its own members) plus some exemption from taxes, and a bull in 1233 from Pope Gregory IX that gave graduates from Cambridge the right to teach everywhere in Christendom.
It is Obvious you are confusing the fact that besides the King of Englands Monarchy, the Popacy was a type of absolute Monarchy that was even stronger than the english Monarchy of the time. His edict or recognition of a Charter to an already existing higher school of learning does not trascend to the church founding this institutions.


Even John Havard was not the founder of the school. That he was the biggest benefactor of the school did not make him the founder.
Nigga stop confusing yourself jare.
And what are you on about Godly values and all that religious balderdash about clever devils. Who are you to tell somebody with differeny views about morals and God that they are right or wrong. Who made you an arbiter of right and wrong? This is exactly the arbitrariness that I am talking about. People forcing their own set of morals, justice, and sense of decency on others without respecting theirs. You need to stop this nonsense and realize you are not the only one with your own set of rules.

achi4u: yes o.let them finish themselvies o.

meeka4: DID that work in the niger delta?

INFO70: 'WHAT' IS TALKING? ATIKU BOKO HARAM I DEY LAUGH WE NEED VIOLENCE TO SUCCEED AS A NATION, NOT GOODLUCK NOR HARDWORK.
ATIKU, THE BLOOD OF THOSE THAT DIED AS A RESULT OF THE KILLING BY BOKO HARAM SHALL BE ON YOUR HEAD AND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY TO YOUR SIXTH GENERATIONS. BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER.

rhymz: Like seriously how old are you? Are like 5 or something cos you sure present your case worse than a toddler. Mr Man, the establishment of Oxford, Havard or even Cambrige had little or nothing to do with any religious sect let alone catholics. Stop citing them as examples and asking me to do research on them like you know any better, it is you who should check your facts here before making very dumb and unfounded claims you can not prove. I dare you to bring evidence of any of these schools connections to a religious sect or order.
Again I warn you stop this your zig-zag argument that is contradictory and pointless. What have muslims got to do with the point I am trying to make. I went to St Finbarr's College and my kid brother was there when the management became full time missionary, it did not turn the school intolerant, till date they still take in students of all background and religious belief, they still maintain thesame tenets of respecting people's freedom to express their own belief through their own religious tenets. You sounded like a Fool trying to guage my views as based on the fact that I grew up in Lagos. Do you know how many Nigerian and African cities that I have visited since I left secondary school? Do I come across to you as some parochial local champion that views issues from the confines of regional boundaries? Matter of fact am not even in Lagos. Nigga, stop trying to psychoanalyze me and just address the issues, you barely know me.
From your myopic view, you are of the opinion that since Christian churches are busy erecting Universities they run like monastries, muslims should go ahead and build Universities run with strict sharia laws. Do you know how divisive such a situation will be. The last thing any educated person need is religiously bias orientation and psyche. People go to Universities to broaden their educational experience and gather more knowledge not to be reformed, religiously re-orienred and indoctrinated.

Korrection: Jeezzz remembered Madam Ejiobi (r.i.p)my best primary school teacher....you must own this book .......always newsprint ...write it hard and see manifest the other side...i remember when i used to draw 10 kobo coin with a pencil on it and it appears as if it is the same.....Kui kuli days with enough garri in my pocket...round about snack...if your mother cacth you eating egg you must explain how you come about it...steal your mothers money and the next person to treat the case is your teacher in school...he or she will call you out infront of the class and ask you to kneel down infront of your parents...while being flogged if you run away your parents will chase you and bring you back for continous flogging until all your yansh go peel....good old days mehn....we have actually derailed from good morals..i have so many memories...

Remii: That was Ifeajuna, one of majors that planned the 1966 coup, he was killed during Biafra war for planning another coup against Ojukwu. That picture was his introduction of new style of high jump into commonwealth games. In 1959.

rhymz: Nigga please shut up you are mouthing off useless redundant platitudes. What has bokoharam and sanusi got to do with anything here. Do you even understand the gibberish you are spewing here?? Which Oxford, Cambridge and Havard are church owned?? How old is this kid that is incapable of comprehension? You keep contradicting yourself with incoherent argument and muddling up issues. You are a pathetic lier that whose words worths nothing to even the mouth that speaks it, which Northern state is sharia compliant? Until between 2000-2002 when Northerners felt OBJ had shortchanged them and started using the issue of making the 19 northern state compliant, No northern state has actually practised it before then and after it died down. Where in the north did you attend government owned school that enforced islamic studies on you? Whicg government school by the way? State or FG? Don't come here using generic statements to argue with me I care less about such a stooopid antics of argument. I attended a missionary school myself, we had alot of muslim students there too, my class captain was a muslim yoruba named Wahab, I am talking of St Finbarr's college in Akoka. Nobody was forced to observe catholic prayers or even attend the ash wednesday mass inside the school. Neither was any muslim punished for expressing his faith.
The basis of your argument is so faulty, petty and contraductory that it unwittingly strengthened my argument that emphasizing religion in higher institutions of learning has further divided us and create more acrimony amongst us. The method of forceful forcing people to observe some setdown religious creed as done in CU is nothing different from those Bokoharam goons you are demonizing, both methods smirks off ignorance and intolerance, simple. Your argument is weak and contradictory plus you don't need to lie to butress your point. You are just as intolerant and arrogant as

the people you accuse, your types are obviously the reason why I made the statement in the first place .

gbogboti: My brother, I tire o. One man representing a whole federal constituency for 12years. Ikorodu people of Lagos needs to be asked the same question o. Abike Dabiri in House of Reps for 12years. Guys you need to see Ikorodu federal constituency. The federal road linking sagamu is worst than a death-trap. Yet she keeps louding her mouth on diasporal affairs. Rubbish! Farouk, you need to be beheaded. Shikena!

waja: He was an ex Aide to IBB, one of those that failed during regional selection. Why won't him know them. He waited until He was appointed NSA b4 He could get their contact. Woe to them.

Is this being done because the Ramadan is Approaching or Because we about about to see a new Dawn by 1st October 2012.?

rhymz: I am so surprise that most of these church run schools did not make the list.
Apart from the fact that many of the schools did not meet the NUC's operational requirements, the way these schools are run leave a lot to be concern about. Schools like Convenant and Redeemer Universities should have been on the list, their owners probably have NUC officials as members, little wonder they did not show on the list.
Nigerian private Universities are a joke and a mockery of what a good religious run University should be. Schools where very unqualified people hold the post of VC all because they own the school, they arbitrarily choose pastors and evangelists to head sensitive positions in the school management. People who hitherto have had no prior experience in running a University are allowed to make very humanly demeaning rules fashioned by their intolerant religious sense of right and wrong; little wonder you go to such schools and all you hear is how the management busies themselves with laws that add little or no progress to the academic development of such schools. Imagine after paying truckloads of cash to educate your kid only for one to hear that s/he had been rusticated from school cos he did not attend the assemble with his bible, imagine making christian religious study a major course for a person studying medicine, engineering, law, and other sciences. If you fail this religious course, you are forced to write them or else you will not graduate. In convenant you are not even allowed to wear a jersey, own a camera phone, have independent academic thoughts or even disagree intellectually with the authorities, yet it is a University. Is there any difference between these so-called church run Universities and rehabilitation centres? Are the students there being taught what they came there to know or what the school Church authorities want them to know. Why should a muslim student be forced to observe prayers different from his own or even study christian religious studies as a major even when his program should have no bearing on such study. Are the NUC aware of this arbitrariness in the way these church gangstars operate?? As if the mass indoctrinations in their churches are not enough they have to still drag it to the school? We want investment in our education but not these ones abeg!! Gone are the days when churches make claims of running any business outside the church as a way to help the poor; that argument has become stale and redundant, they are all profit driven with little or no quality education as they like to claim. Having beautiful buildings inside an enclosed landmass space does not transcend to quality education.
NUC should also take that aspect seriously, there is too much arbitrariness in the way these bible wielding conmen run these schools and put a price tag on education.

mitobiju: ladies wearin trousers 2 church?i beg dis na party centre.n if it truly a church,it must be OYAKHILOME babes

Alxmyr: If this is true, Mr. President earn my respect for this.
For a man whose singular word can change the entire Benin kingdom or whatever remain of it,
to have humbled himself to the extent of sitting for a king, this is an epitome of humility.
I don't know if this picture is true, but if it is, I am very humbled by this.
THIS IS HUMILITY AT ITS PEAK.

bayooooooo: She's really beautiful. That's all I see

sarutobie: "Up up Jesus,down down Jonathan"..is Jesus contesting anything with Jonathan?..maybe the devil has lost his place to jonathan?.hmmm odd times indeed..

uncle u: http://www.sunnewsonline.com/article/7-years-after-crash-lisa-bellview-was-bombed%E2%80%93red-cross-chief

take Die, No be By mistake those generation of Army officers die for C30 hercules in 1992, No be by mistake MKO Abiola take shack poisonous coffeee, No be By mistake Our Man Idiagbon take Die after shaking a similar coffee in ASO rock. No be by mistake Bola Ige take die, No be by mistake say people dey die today for Up North life fawul becouse of BOMB of Islamic JIHADIST, No be by mistake Say GEJ and Patience goodluck story fit end by October 2012......WHO wants to RULE at ALL COSTS!!!??
The Puppet Master behind the Shadows....The MAN of Darkness waiting to seize this great nation and her destiny.....

kiyosaki1: There is this wise saying "A river that forgets his source will definitely dry" TUNDE BAKARE MADE GEJ WHAT HE IS TODAY REWIND YOURSELF BACK TO THE DYING DAYS OF FORMER PRESIDENT WHEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE NO WHERE TO FOUND AND NOW YOU ARE ABUSING YOUR BENEFACTOR.IF HE HADN'T FOUGHT FOR HIM WILL YOU BE IN THE POSITION YOU ARE TODAY ?

Chichilas: Why are there no casualties? How can tens of thugs open fire on a convoy, riddle cars with bullets and yet, nobody dies? Story is fictitious.

fesse: “I think it is time we educate the suicide bombers in the North that it is a wrong belief that killing innocent people would automatically take you to heaven where they would inherit 17 virgins. Of course it would be an uphill task for one person to handle 17 virgins,” he contended.

He said 77 virgins not 17 and it is an uphill for a person to do that.

FSU: NORTH Vs JONATHAN: Ex-Generals, others plot against president • Meet in Abuja on how to unseat him in 2015

By: ADE ALADE, Abuja

Saturday, June 23, 2012

The scope of the plot to unseat the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) government headed by President Goodluck Jonathan in the next presidential election was on Monday night broadened in Abuja, where top northern leaders held a meeting with former governor of Lagos State and national leader of the Action Congress of Nigeria, (ACN), Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu.


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The meeting, which had in attendance former heads of state from the North as well as retired military officers, like ex-National Security Adviser (NSA), General Aliyu Gusau and former ministers, is coming on the heels of a similar one between Tinubu and Congress for Progressive Change (CPC) presidential candidate in the last general election, General Mohammadu Buhari, in Lagos and Kaduna.

One of the northern leaders, who attended the Abuja meeting, told Saturday Sun: "The meeting was an informal one held to woo the former Lagos governor, Asiwaju Tinubu and discuss possibilities of extending the frontiers of cooperation and collaboration between the people of the North and the South West people ahead of the next election.

"The meeting was also called to broaden whatever discussion is ongoing between Asiwaju Tinubu and the CPC leader, General Buhari because the North cannot afford to gamble with the 2015 election chance, in the face of what the region is going through under the Jonathan administration. Our people have been ruined and as leaders, we are pained over what the present government is doing to the North.

"The only opportunity we have is a democratic change of the situation and that can be achieved through seeking partnership with a formidable opposition party leader, like Asiwaju Tinubu and the South West people who have a record of embracing progressive change."

He said that the meeting was "held over dinner to underscore the convivial mood at the discussion."

It was further gathered that none of the leaders at the meeting spoke about any personal ambition, but rather, "they all emphasised the need for change, irrespective of which section of the country produces the next president."

A northern leader, who attended the meeting told Saturday Sun: "For most of us at the meeting, we have put behind us our past ambitions of ruling the country, but we are all united and committed to a change of the present arrangement. And to buttress selflessness and sincerity of purpose on this matter, we made it clear that our desire for change is not out of desperation to have the North reclaim the presidency because we are ready to even support a better candidate from any other zone, including the South West."

Though no names of likely candidates to support came up at the meeting, a former minister at the meeting disclosed that a repeat of the 1993 Social Democratic Party (SDP) arrangement is on the minds of most of those at the meeting.

"We didn't discuss this, but it is obvious that the North wouldn't mind to persuade the former Lagos governor to vie for the presidency, while we get someone, like the CBN governor to run as his deputy or vice versa. The Muslim-Muslim ticket wouldn't be an issue once the candidates are sellable to the two sides of the divide. Nigerians are only interested in good governance and not religion. We have had a similar arrangement in the past with the Abiola and Kingibe ticket that swept the polls across the country. So, the same thing is still possible," the former minister disclosed.

The consideration of the CBN governor is hinged on the view that "he will be a good candidate that will appeal to the Buhari crowd and also blend with other interest groups from the North."

It will be recalled that Buhari and Tinubu had, after a political meeting in Kaduna about two weeks ago, flown in the same plane from Kaduna to Kano and drove in the same car from the Aminu Kano International Airport to the emir's palace, where the CBN governor, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, was being installed the Dan Majen Kano.

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http://odili.net/news/source/2012/jun/23/503.html

Yujin: Its true that isn't all muslims that support boko haram or even the jihad that the muslim leaders up north nursed and are still pursuing till tomorrow in this 'One Nigeria', christians would be extremely foolish to accept this offer. Lets expound the offer to see if any benefit abound there.
1. What security roll will they play that churches(christians) have not been playing?
2. What special equipment do they have that can stop abrutly a bomb laden car coming with a high speed intending to ram onto the church fence or building?
3. What counter measure do they have against boko attackers armed with AK47s when they themselves are having only planks?
Truth be told, it would not make any difference i.e if we are to believe whole-heartedly that this is not a plot to infiltrate our security network. The greatest service they can they can do is to convince the leaders and erring people to drop the islamization by force agenda or better still eliminate those die hard jihadists(those who without regard enlisted nigeria into OIC) because if the christians do the latter for them, they will term it an invitation for war. Salution to the progressives.

yinkaGreen: Would it hurt to research before criticizing?
*The things people say out of ignorance though.*

rhymz: Once again Miss Junkie, you like I always tell you, are not all knowing.
Mr President of course ordered Segun Aganga to audit both NNPC and PPPRA when Aganga was Finance Minister. How do you think they came about the KPMG report, Madam oversabi?
Everyone has come to know you as unneccessarily argumentative and combative, the premise of your arguments are always petty and dumb. What has Goldman Sach got to do with if Mr President actually lied about starting the investigation of NNPC or not?
Bukky did not even make mention of Goldman Sachs, why are you so annoyingly arrogant to a stupifying degree? Abeg, let better people comment jare, oversabi numbskull.

stagger: Their training camps on the Nigeria-Niger and Nigeria-Chad border are known. There was intelligence as to their existence provided by the US government as far back as 2004. What GEJ needs to do is to bomb those places for 30 days straight. I bet you they will be driven far away from the borders deep into Niger, Chad and Northern Cameroun. Next, Nigeria should seek permission from these countries to organize pre-emptive air strikes at their bases in these countries.

Finally, face the states where they have a foothold and organize a three-week mop-up operation. All law-abiding citizens should be given a week to evacuate using roads that will be patrolled. Then a total assault from land and the air should be carried out to finish off every living thing in that area, human, animals, goats, chickens, etc. If I were GEJ, I will make sure that to be associated with the Boko Haram in any way, WILL BE HARAM!

It was done in Ogoniland by Colonels Obi Umahi and Okuntimo in 1993. It was done in Odi in Bayelsa.

WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER!

Amalaaba: Dr Stone,
Non of you who have being abusing Dr Adegbite have quoted him saying anything in support of BH and you have not disputed my claim that he and so many other Muslim leaders have always condemned the activities of BH. I think your expressions (and the rest of you Islamophobes)so far is borne out of blind hatred for Islam.

Since you refer to America's Angelic intention's purpose for for invading other nations let me draw your attention to a book called THE CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HITMAN by John Perkins. Please find and read the book to open your eyes/mind (i hope) to the really intention why they have invaded over 50 countries in the last 70 years such as Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Ecuador, Panama; how they killed the Presidents of Panama for asking for control of Panama canal. Do you also know that the US establishes permanent bases everywhere they go, now numbering over 169.

My appeal to you is that you should be careful about what you ask for and try to temper your hatred for Muslim/Islam by allowing the Muslims occupy and kinder part of your consciousness before you become an extremist!

the question however is at whose expense??

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[b]I some times ask myself that if the muslim world had such weapons and superior military might like the West, what would this world have been like....Big question indeed...Even a dounce will tell the answer.

gegee: I hope jtf short him on his dickson there'll be no greater punishment than for him to receive his harem of virgins and find out that his dickson is not workin

kaiter: I care less if he is dead, infact the death story is better than a possible excape story that they would have told us. [img]http://www.demama.info/g.gif[/img]

Not surprised. Let me say thank God that the security officials already knew who he was before capture. else he would have told us that he was Effiong Mohammed. .. Wont be surprised that there is a conspiracy here to hide the true sponsors of this JIHAD. Its about time this Dark fellas be caught RED handed and in the very Act>> I am confident that the very strange but Lucky circumstances that threw up HONORABLE FAROUK Lawan stuffing COOL Dollars into his 'fulla'[Cap], panties and Stockings on Candid Camera will soon expose High ranking figures sponsoring BH in this country!!! Believe me & WATCH OUT!!

jason123: ABUJA — The House of Representatives, yesterday, insisted that President Goodluck Jonathan must honour the lower chamber’s invitation for the purpose of throwing light on the security situation in the country.

In a briefing, yesterday, Zakari Mohammed, said the House was constitutionally empowered to invite the President “after all, he had also invited us in the past.”

Zakari said contrary to claims in some quaters that the invitation was unconstitutional, the House acted within its powers.

He said: “The constitution gives the House the power to invite anybody if we are conducting any investigation, adding that the silence on the date the President should appear before the lawmakers was to allow President Jonathan choose a date that would be convenient to him.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/06/jonathan-must-come-to-nass-reps-insist/