₦airaland Forum

Apparently people are not reading the whole post.

Maybe it is too long for some.

[size=16pt]The person is actually FOR the existence of God. [/size]

This is why the bible tells us not to be hasty before we have heard the whole story.

Drusilla, your statement: "Christians do not benefit from being in Ceasars system." seems very noble, but I can't disagree more. As Christians we benefit from good governance which a righteous man is sure to bring. Are you telling me that Christians have been immune from the collective suffering that our Politicians have subjected us to over the years in Nigeria? Do we buy food from a different market and do we get paid on a different salary scale than other unbelievers in Nigeria? I don't think so, and I believe you know that too. Maybe I misunderstand what you are trying to say, but from my response, I'm sure you know your argument does not hold water.

TayoD,

I throughly understand your point. What your talking about is something different from me.

The bible allows for a Christian revolution to be run at the level of the state. God in facts says: All ye nations come to me. I will heal your land. (pp)

It would do Nigerians well to devote themselves to God's principals on a state wide level. Meaning that we act in ways that serve the stranger, the fatherless, the widow -- in otherwords act right towards the poor.

Once a nation seeks God's righteousness towards the poor, oppressed and downtrodden. Which is what the bible is overwhelmingly about. Then God adds all of those other things they need to it.

I am not surprised when I hear that Ghana seems to keep the streets clean, the lights on and seems to be a beautiful country any American could easily live in without feeling the loss of creature comforts.

Because I also hear how the Vice-President is asking the whole nation to pray to Jesus Christ, and the bible is the biggest selling book in Ghana. I think that is why Ghana does well.

Jerry Rawlings did not consider himself such a big man, that he could not get down with the people and return to the farms and teach them how to systematically farm.We have films of him on his hands and knees putting a seed in, why the people he is teaching stand nearby watching. And he was the president of the country.

That is the humbleness that God requires. When you are devoted to the least of them, then God will give you all of those other things you desire.

Similarily in south africa, it is the same thing. Christian African students who began school boycott, that Mandela would lead, which led to the sowetto massacre, Mandela's imprisonment, which led to the freedom of their country.

One of the first books I read about South Africa, was a book called "Why Lord?" from a christian in exile for fighting for the end of apartied.

God does help nations who seek His righteousness and now South African Christians have more than they could have ever dreamed of in South Africa.

God answers prayers for nations and does want Christians to turn their problems as a nation over to him.

However, what I was talking about is something different.

You can not take Ceasar's things and improve someone's christian walk.
No devotion to state will raise your place in heaven.
Being patriotic does not make you a less sinful christian.

I think you can understand that.

Bobby,

Of course. We are in total agreement.

Your right it is the restoration of Israel that they invented the "sinful earthly Millenium Kingdom" they think Jesus is going to come rule over.

They reply that the promises in the OT to the Israelites have not been fulfilled about getting the land and living in peace with Jesus as their king.

Eze 37:11 And He said to me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Behold, they say, Our bones are dried and our hope is lost; we are cut off by ourselves.

Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say to them, So says the Lord Jehovah: Behold, O My people, I will open your graves and cause you to come up out of your graves, and will bring you into the land of Israel.

The bible is very clear, when the Israelites will get their promises fulfilled. In the resurrection.

There is no need to invent a sinner filled earthly Millenium Kingdom that you think Jesus is going to come and rule over.

grailife,

Good post.

Bobby,

Thank you.

I have asked about that verse before because some Christians teach some type of "rebuilt temple with sacrifices in Jerusalem" but there is no mention of any temple in the end times, unless you include that one.

However those verses calls it God's temple, which contradicts the idea of the 3rd temple they claim because the 3rd temple they talk about is supposed to be built by and for those opposed to God.

Olawobale,

That was a wonderful way to teach about paradise and hell. Thank you.

TV01,

Good words. Smile.

Afeni,

Thank you for telling me that. I apologize. I did think it was you pulling some tasteless prank.

hoodboi,

Thanks. I just be playing.

@Eve

Eve-SEH?

Beautiful

Afeni,

You got me there. Nigerians, in particular do look like African Americans.

I wonder if it has anything to do with the discrepancy between the NOI numbers for Black Americans and the governments census. NOI counts us at millions higher than the gov.

Wait a second.

4-6 million in America

Now I have not checked in a long time but last time I did, America only has 2 million African and Carribean Immigrants and the majority of them from the Carribean.

My sister's boyfriend was of course born in America, then brought back to Nigeria for school and then sent back to America for college.

But there can not be 5 million of those in that situtation.

And since African and Carribean Immigrants are still put out of America more than any other immigrant group, there would be no way to hide that many Africans illegally.

Thank you

I am wondering how many Nigerians live outside of Nigeria?

Oh. Oh. Ya'll starting something.

Post some more pics of the Nigerian rappers.

Never heard of Enya and I only know Dido through Eminem's song.

New Age music is considered music for a specific group.

It's not widely played in America unless it has some pop crossover appeal.

And Dido and Enya are both ugly in those pictures.

I have saw Dido before and did not think of her as ugly as that picture shows her.

Enya looks like what we consider, the New Age "I am a Wiccan witch" people.

Naija people are starting to get into my heart and it is sad to see your pain about this.

Adore -- Prince

I'm partial to number 3. I like 2 also.

Welcome, Sleek MC.

I'd paint the whitehouse black. --Luniz

I'm a Hustler --Cassidy

I was trying to avoid this topic because of such reasoning.

Davidlyn,

Here are the verses:

1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brothers, you have no need that I write to you.
1Th 5:2 For you yourselves know accurately that [size=20pt]the day of the Lord[/size] comes like a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety! Then sudden destruction comes on them, as travail upon a woman with child. And they shall not escape.

Here is what you said:

In no way was 1 Thessalonians 5: 1-3 talking about the day of the Lord.