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Folks pay attention, where is it written that we are going to Heaven? Did Christ Ever say so?

We are not going to heaven! But those who do not qualify for Life, are surely going to Hell

The presence of Evil, man's love for Evil, the doing of Evil. All of which was unlocked when man ate the fruit.

So now heaven and earth is impure and praise be to God that He chose the good way to solve this problem,which is rather than destroy the whole plantation because it is covered with weeds (evil), which is what Satan would like, He rather chose to suffer the pain of going through the weeds to get at those trees which bear fruits. Matthew 13:24 and Isaiah 5:1-7 Note verses 3,4.5

It is a filtration system to separate the good from the bad (the sheep from the goat). And we all know what is going to happen to the bad.

Perfect according to Who? Who is going to measure that which is perfect?

Therefore if you know and understand who your Judge is, then you would know if you would please him or not!

Male ant- Ant man
Female ant- Hanti
Big ant- Elephant
Number of ants in a house- TENant
Ants complaining- PROTESTant

Ant wey no dey gree - recalcitrAnt
Ant wey talk well well - blatAnt
Ant wey dey shine well well- flamboyAnt
Ant wey sabi swim- bouyAnt
Ant wey be Agbero-FlagrAnt

musicwriter:
You're the one ''repeating lies over and over again to make it sound like the truth'', not me.

Please show me some historical, archeological, scientific, anthropological proof that Jesus did indeed resurrect from the dead, and I will apologize to you immediately.

Evidence 101- Oral testimony of witnesses present. Bible supplied this. You never quoted your source of information.

Why do you want to follow Christ? Do you know where he is going or where he is taking you to? And do you want to go there? If you know the Correct answers to these questions then your question is answered

[quote author=dukeprince50 post=76757496]lol, those drawings got no emotions, I have emotions, I cry, I feel pains, I get injuries that leaves scars, I have a heart, do not compare me to a drawing[/quote

You are a live drawing, boy. In other words you would prefer to be the paper or thing other creations play with. In this world, a creation is either, what we call a living thing or not a living thing or even a combination of both. Too bad, another law, a creation can not tell his Creator, what he shall create or not create, how he shall create..., when he shall create....,you can continue it for me.

Sorry about your emotions being thrashed up & down, that's what Always happens when you go against your creator.

We creatures who have chosen to work with and for our Creator, We are Very Fine and having a Real Blast.

Normal relationship/marital problem. Women do not know how much and how far we don't share our women. But your wife sounds young and inexperienced, therefore give her controlled experience if and only if you are surely sure she loves you. And expect to see her fall. So you are supposed to be there to see her fall.

UnclePrincipal:
Dude, you're the one with nothing to say.
Are we a pawn to him that he can just do as he pleases ? Or was he just so bored that he decided to use job suffering for his relief? Answer them, don't cover the questions up

Do you not tear YOUR drawings, jump on YOUR bed, Lovingly caress YOUR car,etc? You do what you like with YOUR things! Same as He. Yes you are a pawn. You fully exercise your rights over your creation, He does the same.
And to continue means repeating what I have earlier said, as ye have done. He can do no wrong, he who exercises his rights!

[quote author=UnclePrincipal post=76751232]Dude, you're the one with nothing to say.
You're dodging the real question here. How can an omniscient and omnipotent God place a bet when he knows what the future holds?
And why did he gave satan permission to torment job? Are we a pawn to him that he can just do as he pleases ? Or was he just so bored that he decided to use job suffering for his relief? Answer them, don't cover the questions up[/quote

You have gone back to the beginning of my answer (roundabout argument loading). We all love to boast about the things we are proud of, be it beauty, brains or integrity as in Job's case. We do these things too and we have never seen anything wrong with it but when God does it, you all cry out. Do you yourselves, not oftentimes, see the future and have power, but do you always exercise it? I know the answer is yes, you are sometimes omnipotent and omniscience but you sometimes put them away at your pleasure, like God.

He who exercises his rights can do no wrong.

davien:
Lol... hearsay? That I'm telling you to use your brain as a thinking faculty that it should be and not nod to whatever story that's not consistent with itself says?

Are you that desperate to believe something hopeful that you'll swallow this nonsense?

How did Judas die, did he hang himself or did God strike him down in an open field?

The Bible that you're defending like the best thing since sliced bread says both, and believers like you try to patch it up, ignore, downplay it..

God tempts or doesn't tempt? Genesis 22:1 / James 1:13

The fact I want to make clear to you is that it's a flawed religious book, not to be something to base your whole existence on, if you chose to follow it, follow it because its what you want and not for its promises because it's a contradictory mess, if there's any God behind it it must love deception a lot.

My point remains unchanged! You seek to ask questions eternally, I test Facts to discover the truths or lies in them. That is the difference between us. And now you have changed the argument from your perceived 'wickedness' of God in the case of Job to saying now that the bible is flawed, which is not the issue on the board now.

Your obvious Bias and Hatred of God is loud and clear and does not allow you reason objectively to discover that which is true. You seek only to condemn God but I stand against you because you can't validly condemn Him and none of your kind has ever been able to so validly convict Him, since the beginning of time, whereas you on the hand,...

So you really have nothing to say.

tpm:
Even after we graduated from the higher institution and working, my best friend still holds enormous grudges against me. He was my classmate and bosom friend. We did almost everything together, including reading, writing and reporting assignments, eating, clubbing, politics, the list is endless. Even in the exams, we sat close to each other for mutual benefits, until this girl came in between us. My friend first met her and they were going out together. Then came one faithful day, my friend visited me with her. He introduced her
to me and we both exchanged pleasantries. She confirmed to my friend that I was a gentle guy, though in my absence.

When my friend asked me about her, I also confirmed she’s cute and above all, matured. And the three of us by virtue of that introduction became close friends. However, my friend I must state clear here, is the acting boy friend, while as his bosom friend, I encouraged them and ensured their love for each other grows. Not quite long after, they stated having serious incompatibility problems. They quarrel themselves at every slightest opportunity. They would argue over trivial issues that should not matter at all. Even in the public, causing themselves embarrassments in some cases.

I became very worried and tried my best to settle their differences. In many occasions my idea of settling cases between them had worked perfectly, only for yet another trouble to ensue little time after. This lingered until I could notice a show of lack of interest in the relationship from either side. As a concerned dude, I called my friend in private and asked him what exactly the problem was, but he didn’t seem to know. I demanded to know if he has done his job as a man, because refusal of indulgence could throw some contemporary ladies into dismay. My friend yielded NO. I blamed him for that and at the same time advised him to go sleep with the girl to clear every emotional doubt. But he refused, telling me he wouldn’t want to portray a picture of sexual urge before the girl at that time which he considered too early. I said to him, four months after you‘ve been into this and you still consider it too early to make her feel like a woman.

Ok, since you are the point man, you know the best for yourself. While the problem between them lasted, the girl was wishing within her to switch over to me. But I did not know until one day, while she and I were coming back after we escorted her boy friend to his off-camp residence and coming back to our hostel rooms. On our way she kissed me. I objected and frowned against it, but she said since my best friend is her boy friend, she sees nothing bad in giving me such unconditional kiss. After all, I was a better man than him, she added. I became frightened and tried to protect my friend’s interest like every true friend should do. From that day she began to hide from my friend, but only wanting to see me.

Still I refused. Instead I planned to reconcile them but they both expressed explicitly they are no longer interested. After like six months, I pleaded with my friend to accept my reconciliation moves, but he objected. By then, the girl was disturbing me terribly, paying for my lunch, drinks, etc even when I was not there. When the temptation became too much, I asked my friend if he was going to be against any man he sees going out with the girl, but he denied, saying he would even thank the man for saving him the trouble. I called the girl and asked her why she was following me around, but she said, my friend in question never had any canal knowledge of her. What was her sin falling in love with me?

She even said she had brought up the topic before the room mates and they all encourage her to follow her heart. It was at that point I fell for her. And we started dating. Since then, we have been together even as by the grace of God, we are both engineers now (though she is still serving). It’s been like five years now and I don’t regret ever being with her. So does she never regret the decision she made. But my friend hated me with the believe that I betrayed him. And as adults now, I want reconciliation but do not know how to start. In your mind, do I really owe him an apology?

You Deceived him hence you betrayed him in that it was you, who was the guy he was going to thank for taking his gurl. You didn't disclose your interests in his girl neither did you tell him that his girl has Rejected him and Chosen you. Oh boy it hurts bad especially when you must compares sexual prowess or even a simple kiss. I don't think he'll really forgive you even if he wants to unless you leave her or she leaves you (preferably)

davien:
Lol... You have locked your critical thinking and thrown away the key.
So God an omnipotent being has something to boast about to the devil?
So much that God will kill jobs wife, kids, servants and destroy his property to prove to the devil what God already knows the answer to

Then gives job new wife and kids? like they are cars that can be replaced.

Are you so scared of "blashpemy" that you can't call a spade a spade?

"Critical thinking"- ask questions because you can think up a question (we don't care if its true or not thinking!)The weapon Satan caught you with. A Wickedly Crafty Device to hide the Truth from you and send you on endless pursuit of the truth, so that you see not the Truth, The Evil planted by Philosophy taught in Schools. Compared to the Correct Philosophy - The Truth Thinking!

Truth means that which is established, eternal, Evidenced. I seek Only the Truth. No additions/subtractions/conjectures/opinions. Reasonable practical questions Must flow from the case itself and no more. that is the beginning of knowledge of the Truth.
You are the one giving the story now not the bible. This is hearsay.
Not afraid of blasphemy for the real person who should complain about blasphemy is a very good person and has said He would deal with it when He Wills.

So you have said nothing worthy of response!

falcon01:
why the f*ck are y'all comparing God with ordinary objects?? in order to prove your garbage you will compare God with anything mcheew does yaris have a mind of its own? does yaris think? is yaris alive? does yaris have consciousness? is there a proof that Toyoda exist if yes you cant even compare him with God since Toyoda is known to have existed and there are lots of proof of his existence.

Gotcha! Couldn't resist! Rule of the World. Creator-creation/creature. You, human, know other humans and less. You must be a God to know a God. But you are a Product, a Creation and always under the power of your Creator like Yaris can be enhanced or destroyed by Toyota.And if you don't like it, Return everything that is not yours to the owner or simply drop them, Then Create yourself, your own world or take another God's own. We your lesser beings will simply follow who wins. Right now God is in Charge, Chairman of the Board, like a president. You can always coup Him out of office.

[quote author=elotajohn1 post=76727587]I get confused daily by that. If other Religion are not preaching of the way to God is through Jesus, then why did God allow mankind to have the knowledge of creating other Religions?
In your mind you have asked a hard question! If you want an answer why don't you first declare that you are an anti Christ and then we'll answer you? Rather than hide in the darkness of that I am trying to understand. Aa my lawyer says blowing hot and cold.

KDK:
Jesus is the only way to heaven. None of the other religions have laid sole claim like Jesus did
in John 14:6, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” He is not a way, as in one of many; He is the way, as in the one and only.

Not heaven bro but the way to the Kingdom of God! Heaven is the twin of earth! The question I leave to you is what twin?

OKDnigeria:
Many people have criticized Christianity and believers in Jesus Christ as being too narrow-minded because we preach that Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation. They point to the numerous other religions of the world and say, "How can your way be the only way?"

One of the answers to this question is that Jesus himself declared that He was, in fact, God in the flesh.

I and the Father are one. ( John 10:30 , NASB)
He who has seen Me has seen the Father… ( John 14:9 b, NASB)

Jesus did not give Christians any other option but to preach that it is only through faith in His sacrificial death on Calvary that we can receive salvation from our sins.

Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me." ( John 14: 6, NLT)

Jesus claimed to be God. We have to judge his statements about himself as either true or false.
The great British writer, C. S. Lewis, explained in his well-known book, Mere Christianity , "A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher; he'd either be a lunatic -- on a level with a man who says he's a poached egg -- or else he'd be the devil of hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God; or else a madman or something worse."

"You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come up with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to."

So Jesus was either a madman, a liar, a myth, or He really was -- and is -- the Son of God.

It's Not About Me
Some people believe that all the religions in the world are basically the same. But that simply is not true. Christians, Jews, and Muslims believe in a personal God who has revealed Himself to mankind. Buddhists and Hindus believe God is impersonal and unknowable. But God cannot be both personal and impersonal -- both concepts cannot be correct.

But Christianity is also different from all other religions of the world in one other vitally important concept -- the idea that God reached out to man to save him because man was helpless to save himself.

Every other religion in the world is based on man's efforts to reach God. These world religions teach that man must somehow do righteous deeds or perform religious service in order to become good enough for salvation. In order to be saved a person must pray a certain number of times, in a certain manner, facing a certain direction. Or he must wear a particular type of religious garment. Or he must visit a certain religious shrine or temple. Or he must worship in a particular way.

Some religions require sacrifice and even the infliction of pain upon a believer in order to become holy in the sight of God. Some extreme religions require adherents to beat themselves with whips or rods to show their devotion to God. Some require pilgrims to crawl on their knees a certain distance in prayer in order to earn righteous points with God. Some religions require worship on Friday; others on Saturday; and others on Sunday.

But in all of this, the striving after righteousness is based on the religious activity of the man or woman. In every other religious system besides Christianity, a spiritual scale hangs over the head of the individual, with all of the sins they have committed on one side and all of their righteous deeds on the other. The person never knows whether they have been good enough, or prayed enough, or worked hard enough to earn the righteous points needed to counter their earned sins.

But the Christian Bible teaches that man is a sinner and could never earn salvation by what he or she did.

As the Scriptures say, "No one is righteous—not even one." ( Rom. 3:10 , NLT)

For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. ( Rom. 3:23 , NLT)

We are all infected and impure with sin. When we display our righteous deeds, they are nothing but filthy rags. ( Is. 64:6a, NLT)

The apostle Paul makes it clear that salvation is available only through the sacrifice that Jesus Christ made when he carried the sins of the world on the cross.

For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ. (2 Cor. 5:21, NLT)

Jesus never sinned. So He was the only one who could pay the price and carry the sins of all people who ever lived upon himself on the cross. He was the sacrificial lamb who took upon himself the sin of the people.

This salvation comes only through the grace of God toward man, and we can only receive it by faith -- not by any deed that we could ever do.

For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. ( Eph. 2:8-9 , NKJV)

No matter how good you are; no matter how religious you are; no matter what you do for God, you can never be good enough, or holy enough to earn salvation.

Any plan of salvation that is based on the efforts of man is doomed to failure. But the Bible tells us that salvation has been made available to us because Jesus came to earth and bore our sins on the cross.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. ( John 3:16 , NKJV)

All we have to do is believe and receive what Jesus did to bring salvation to us. God has given us the grace to receive salvation; all we have to do is open the door by faith.

Receiving the Free Gift
Jesus Christ declared himself to be the Son of God, the Savior of the World. Now you need to decide how you will respond to his call to "follow me." He declared that He alone is "the way, the truth, and the life -- no one can come to the Father, except through Me."

Will you take the next step now? Will you trust Him to be your Lord and Savior?

Put your life into His hands now. Do what He asks you to do. His yoke is easy and His burden is light. He asks you to believe in Him. He asks you to honestly confess your sins to Him and to receive His complete forgiveness. He has a special gift that He wants to give you -- eternal life.

http://www1.cbn.com/questions/jesus-only-way-salvation

Too long to prove that Christ is the Way. Actually He is not the Only way BUT He is the easiest Way and the Most efficient Way, the Sweetest Way and the Very Last OPTION. Yes, I considered all the other options but the result I got was death or I barely escaped death. Only in Christ, I completely escape death �

davien:
As good as God in the Bible is claimed to be he made a bet with the devil to kill jobs children, servants, etc.. One of many stories that weren't edited out of the Bible in time when the church held a vote of what ought to be in the Bible(Google it)

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See, like Him, do you not boast with your car/brain/wife/money..., because you trust you would win? Only Winners boast and have boasting Rights! So don't you see that Job was God's Champion? And in the end Job, a human being, beat the Devil? And that God Compensated Job 2ce more than he ever had and lost? Or you refuse to see this part!.

[quote author=ZinolyOnlineHeIp post=76715223][/quote]You already agree and know that it is not true but you want and need it to be true. You kukuma for ask if "Na Toyota get Camry?"

ZinolyOnlineHeIp:
he knew they would be sin.. why not just keep us for heaven to worship you.. wetin be the use of this earth now?
more like trap

Watchout! Anti-Christ Speaks!

[quote author=ZinolyOnlineHeIp post=76726952]aptly said..
exactly what's bothering me..
he knows we are going to sin.. cux he said no man born is perfect (without sin)..
why punishing us b/c of sin again[/quote
God did no such thing! Did your father not buy his car for his pleasure? Then warned you that you must not drive his car? When you disobey his instruction, do you not submit to his punishment? And did you, in truth, ever think something was wrong with it?

PrettyEneawan:
No One Question God He Does What Pleases Him

Not Correct! He is too good that you can ask even stupid questions But He has already answered All the questions that you can imagine to Ask. Read the Bible and Listen. It is Always better to Listen than to Speak

falcon01:
there's a lot of shit we don't know about this world e.g
does God actually exist?? if yes Which among the thousand Gods is the real one? if No why. the f*ck are we on earth? is it even a male or female? does it Actually love us if yes why will he burn and torture us for going against his will which he already predestined ?? I just try not to think of all that nonsense and focus on been successfully.

Fool! Think Yaris knows who Toyota is or that he exists?